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	<title>Comments on: Front Page Article in Keene Sentinel on Free Staters</title>
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		<title>By: Vesuvius</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2008/08/31/front-page-article-in-keene-sentinel-on-free-staters/comment-page-1/#comment-77288</link>
		<dc:creator>Vesuvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,  
    I appreciate the sentiment, but the truth is that sacred majority of voters are indoctrinated beyond help. The country is now three generations deeply ingrained in the entitlement mentality. It&#039;s so bad right now that I see children wearing Obama hats, like he&#039;s a fucking baseball team! You can&#039;t expect me to believe a seven old fully grasps the gravity of what that men, or any politician, represents. The system has failed, and it needs to be ignored out of existence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>    I appreciate the sentiment, but the truth is that sacred majority of voters are indoctrinated beyond help. The country is now three generations deeply ingrained in the entitlement mentality. It&#039;s so bad right now that I see children wearing Obama hats, like he&#039;s a fucking baseball team! You can&#039;t expect me to believe a seven old fully grasps the gravity of what that men, or any politician, represents. The system has failed, and it needs to be ignored out of existence.</p>
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		<title>By: dan the man</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2008/08/31/front-page-article-in-keene-sentinel-on-free-staters/comment-page-1/#comment-77284</link>
		<dc:creator>dan the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would just be nice if FreeStaters could just go back to the successful role that libertarians had in the past - that of being able to influence other party politicians and constituents in the 1930&#039;s.   
 
In Howard S. Katz&#039;s article titled,  The &#039;Failure&#039; of the Libertarian Movement&#039;, he states: &quot;The Democratic Party (which had won office on the platform of a balanced budget and a reduction in government spending in 1932) kept moving further and further to the left, introducing many elements of the welfare state. The libertarian movement was an attempt to imitate this success - to move the major parties in the direction of liberty by raising an ideologically extreme banner.&quot;  
 
Unfortunately, as evidenced by our latest presidential election and the the activities of the last two presidential administrations, his later comment that &quot;The world socialist movement is dying&quot; no longer holds true.   
 
We need a coalition of FSP people who did not make the move, along with local libertarian and constitution party voters to work together in every state to once again steer the other voters away from socialism.   
 
By working through organizations, like Ron Paul&#039;s CampaignForLiberty and Tom Cryer&#039;s TruthAttack, and reaching out to help educate others through  
Liberty Works Radio Network, maybe we can once again have an impact in every state.  It is the only way that my state of Maryland - the original &#039;Free State&#039;, will ever break the stranglehold of the Democrat Party.   
 
One can hope and pray, but it&#039;s time to roll up the sleeves and start swinging...  votes, that is! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would just be nice if FreeStaters could just go back to the successful role that libertarians had in the past &#8211; that of being able to influence other party politicians and constituents in the 1930&#039;s.  </p>
<p>In Howard S. Katz&#039;s article titled,  The &#039;Failure&#039; of the Libertarian Movement&#039;, he states: &quot;The Democratic Party (which had won office on the platform of a balanced budget and a reduction in government spending in 1932) kept moving further and further to the left, introducing many elements of the welfare state. The libertarian movement was an attempt to imitate this success &#8211; to move the major parties in the direction of liberty by raising an ideologically extreme banner.&quot; </p>
<p>Unfortunately, as evidenced by our latest presidential election and the the activities of the last two presidential administrations, his later comment that &quot;The world socialist movement is dying&quot; no longer holds true.  </p>
<p>We need a coalition of FSP people who did not make the move, along with local libertarian and constitution party voters to work together in every state to once again steer the other voters away from socialism.  </p>
<p>By working through organizations, like Ron Paul&#039;s CampaignForLiberty and Tom Cryer&#039;s TruthAttack, and reaching out to help educate others through </p>
<p>Liberty Works Radio Network, maybe we can once again have an impact in every state.  It is the only way that my state of Maryland &#8211; the original &#039;Free State&#039;, will ever break the stranglehold of the Democrat Party.  </p>
<p>One can hope and pray, but it&#039;s time to roll up the sleeves and start swinging&#8230;  votes, that is!</p>
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		<title>By: M Wolske</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Wolske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not wanting to take away from the subject or the comments, but I thought that there was a debate of some sort going on a few years back (I am away from regular news on a regular basis) about the free state project being in New Hampshire (or Vermont?) and Wyoming.  After my next spurt of news I see that it obviously ended being in New Hampshire.  Why was Wyoming not chosen?  Or am I way off course on all of this anyway?  Delete all of this if I am just obviously stupid and off course. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not wanting to take away from the subject or the comments, but I thought that there was a debate of some sort going on a few years back (I am away from regular news on a regular basis) about the free state project being in New Hampshire (or Vermont?) and Wyoming.  After my next spurt of news I see that it obviously ended being in New Hampshire.  Why was Wyoming not chosen?  Or am I way off course on all of this anyway?  Delete all of this if I am just obviously stupid and off course.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Springer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think many locals will want to join you, at least not this local.  It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t believe in living &quot;free&quot;.  I actually live pretty free.  I made choices to ensure that, such as living on a back road in a formerly-rural town.  I don&#039;t look to government to solve my problems except perhaps as a last resort.   
 
If you want support from the locals I think you will need to think a little more about who we are and what is important to us.  I don&#039;t see any evidence of this.  We&#039;re a place with a history and a culture, and I don&#039;t see any evidence that you guys understand or care about that.  I don&#039;t know anybody in Keene.  But when people write snarky letters to the tax collector or disrepect the local judge or whatever I analogize to people who fill those roles in my community, people who are my friends and neighbors.  Maybe you think that they are misguided agents of government.  I just see them as NH people being harassed by newbies who don&#039;t have a clue and don&#039;t care.  When I first heard about FSP I thought it was cool that people wanted to be part of what we have in NH.  But then I read of antics like people wearing guns in public just because they could, and stuff like that.  And then some of the stuff mentioned on this web site.  I&#039;m not a lover of government, and I think we mostly have it right in NH about how much we need to knuckle under for the common good and how much we ought to be able just to do as we please.  I have spent a lot of time reading and understanding our state constitution and laws.  I think it is really cool that we have had a continuous provincial/state government since we split from Massachusetts in about 1680, and that our state constitution was written for an almost completely sovereign country.  I don&#039;t have any reason to believe that you guys care about or respect any of that.  If you wanted to work within the system we have, run for the general court (there&#039;s a rep on every block) or selectman or whatever, and try to keep the government small and in favor of freedom, that would be great.  But insulting officials or just wasting their time on foolishness is a turn-off to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think many locals will want to join you, at least not this local.  It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t believe in living &quot;free&quot;.  I actually live pretty free.  I made choices to ensure that, such as living on a back road in a formerly-rural town.  I don&#039;t look to government to solve my problems except perhaps as a last resort.  </p>
<p>If you want support from the locals I think you will need to think a little more about who we are and what is important to us.  I don&#039;t see any evidence of this.  We&#039;re a place with a history and a culture, and I don&#039;t see any evidence that you guys understand or care about that.  I don&#039;t know anybody in Keene.  But when people write snarky letters to the tax collector or disrepect the local judge or whatever I analogize to people who fill those roles in my community, people who are my friends and neighbors.  Maybe you think that they are misguided agents of government.  I just see them as NH people being harassed by newbies who don&#039;t have a clue and don&#039;t care.  When I first heard about FSP I thought it was cool that people wanted to be part of what we have in NH.  But then I read of antics like people wearing guns in public just because they could, and stuff like that.  And then some of the stuff mentioned on this web site.  I&#039;m not a lover of government, and I think we mostly have it right in NH about how much we need to knuckle under for the common good and how much we ought to be able just to do as we please.  I have spent a lot of time reading and understanding our state constitution and laws.  I think it is really cool that we have had a continuous provincial/state government since we split from Massachusetts in about 1680, and that our state constitution was written for an almost completely sovereign country.  I don&#039;t have any reason to believe that you guys care about or respect any of that.  If you wanted to work within the system we have, run for the general court (there&#039;s a rep on every block) or selectman or whatever, and try to keep the government small and in favor of freedom, that would be great.  But insulting officials or just wasting their time on foolishness is a turn-off to me.</p>
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		<title>By: GetYourFactsCorrect</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetYourFactsCorrect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow some places really hacked up the article. 
Curt... there are a number of issues that need to be tackled... we need more locals joining us along with more movers. 
 
(for me the liquor issue is far down my list) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow some places really hacked up the article.</p>
<p>Curt&#8230; there are a number of issues that need to be tackled&#8230; we need more locals joining us along with more movers.</p>
<p>(for me the liquor issue is far down my list)</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Springer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once a year, on or about the 4th of July, I set off a large amount of fireworks, of the 500 gram variety, safely, in a town that has exercised its local option to forbid them (not Danville).  That&#039;s enough civil disobedience for me. 
 
But if you ever set up a roadside stand selling Glenlivet, at a cheaper price than the state liquor store, please let me know.  :-) 
 
Seriously, although the cost per bottle might be lower once you get to the store, I don&#039;t think people consider the cost of the lack of convenience and especially the cost of a special trip to a distant store. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once a year, on or about the 4th of July, I set off a large amount of fireworks, of the 500 gram variety, safely, in a town that has exercised its local option to forbid them (not Danville).  That&#039;s enough civil disobedience for me.</p>
<p>But if you ever set up a roadside stand selling Glenlivet, at a cheaper price than the state liquor store, please let me know.  <img src='http://freekeene.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, although the cost per bottle might be lower once you get to the store, I don&#039;t think people consider the cost of the lack of convenience and especially the cost of a special trip to a distant store.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great issue.  If you&#039;d like to do some liquor dealing civil disobedience, we&#039;d be behind you! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great issue.  If you&#039;d like to do some liquor dealing civil disobedience, we&#039;d be behind you!</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Springer</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2008/08/31/front-page-article-in-keene-sentinel-on-free-staters/comment-page-1/#comment-75988</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Springer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come none of you talk about the state liquor monopoly, AFAIK?  As a &quot;local&quot;, that&#039;s one thing that irks me on a regular basis about this state.  If you don&#039;t live in a larger town or city or tourist area you are hosed if you want to buy a bottle of scotch at your own convenience. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come none of you talk about the state liquor monopoly, AFAIK?  As a &quot;local&quot;, that&#039;s one thing that irks me on a regular basis about this state.  If you don&#039;t live in a larger town or city or tourist area you are hosed if you want to buy a bottle of scotch at your own convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Abramson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Abramson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we can do it with 1500-2000 activists, and I think that the real numbers will come about by getting more locals actively involved.  That&#039;s where the real support is coming from, and it&#039;s the group we should have targeted from the outset. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we can do it with 1500-2000 activists, and I think that the real numbers will come about by getting more locals actively involved.  That&#039;s where the real support is coming from, and it&#039;s the group we should have targeted from the outset.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like the AP picked up the story and chopped it down to put their spin on the story. I am also pretty saddened by the comments section in this post: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/free-state-project-lowers-goal-to-1000/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the AP picked up the story and chopped it down to put their spin on the story. I am also pretty saddened by the comments section in this post:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/free-state-project-lowers-goal-to-1000/" rel="nofollow">http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09&#8230;</a></p>
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