Comments on: Triple Civil Disobedience Success! http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/ Peaceful Evolution Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:50:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nick http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76152 nick Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:56:33 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76152 Curt, First, thanks for commenting and following the situation. Nobody thinks we just eliminated speeding tickets and are suddenly immune from rulings in the Keene court, but Friday's activists made the next resister that much more comfortable taking that step. If it will bring out one more person that is willing to say "I'm tired of being afraid", it was a good day's work. And no matter what happens, I can be proud of what I was able to do, instead of giving in the way they want me to. That's a victory for me. Curt,

First, thanks for commenting and following the situation.

Nobody thinks we just eliminated speeding tickets and are suddenly immune from rulings in the Keene court, but Friday’s activists made the next resister that much more comfortable taking that step. If it will bring out one more person that is willing to say “I’m tired of being afraid”, it was a good day’s work.

And no matter what happens, I can be proud of what I was able to do, instead of giving in the way they want me to. That’s a victory for me.

]]> By: Curt Springer http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76145 Curt Springer Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:00:32 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76145 Don't be so quick to pat yourselves on the back. All of this simply shows that the state is not out to bust your chops, and that NH is about as free as you can get provided you accept some notion of shared authority. Which I know you don't. Regarding speeding tickets, it's not uncommon for people to get a break if they actually go to court. Up to 65 mph, the legal standard is "reasonable and prudent having due regard to the prevailing conditions" and the posted limit is just prima facie, not conclusive proof that you have violated the law. Back when they posted the 55 mph limit, lots of people got off by going to court and proving that they were "reasonable and prudent" even if in excess of 55 mph. The state didn't have much of a case, having posted highways for 70 mph prior to 1974. Don’t be so quick to pat yourselves on the back. All of this simply shows that the state is not out to bust your chops, and that NH is about as free as you can get provided you accept some notion of shared authority. Which I know you don’t.

Regarding speeding tickets, it’s not uncommon for people to get a break if they actually go to court. Up to 65 mph, the legal standard is “reasonable and prudent having due regard to the prevailing conditions” and the posted limit is just prima facie, not conclusive proof that you have violated the law.

Back when they posted the 55 mph limit, lots of people got off by going to court and proving that they were “reasonable and prudent” even if in excess of 55 mph. The state didn’t have much of a case, having posted highways for 70 mph prior to 1974.

]]> By: COG http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76101 COG Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:33:58 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76101 Great job gentlemen, my hats off to you. I wish I could have been there. Great job gentlemen, my hats off to you. I wish I could have been there.

]]> By: Patrick Shields http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76098 Patrick Shields Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:26:59 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76098 Great job guys... Let's keep building up the momentum! Everybody remember to call in to Talkback tomorrow! Great job guys… Let’s keep building up the momentum! Everybody remember to call in to Talkback tomorrow!

]]> By: Mike http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76097 Mike Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:50:13 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76097 Congratulations Nick, Russell, and Dave! Good job, and good job everyone who was there to support them. I really wanted to be there for all three activists, but I anticipated the bureaucracy wasting time and postponing the "trial" throughout the day, and I just couldn't take the time off work today. Congratulations Nick, Russell, and Dave! Good job, and good job everyone who was there to support them. I really wanted to be there for all three activists, but I anticipated the bureaucracy wasting time and postponing the “trial” throughout the day, and I just couldn’t take the time off work today.

]]> By: James (from Texas) http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76096 James (from Texas) Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:36:32 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76096 Congratulations! I am very pleased to read these outcomes. I cannot wait to see the videos. Congratulations! I am very pleased to read these outcomes. I cannot wait to see the videos.

]]> By: Kellie http://freekeene.com/2008/09/26/triple-civil-disobedience-success/comment-page-1/#comment-76095 Kellie Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:13:34 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=621#comment-76095 Wonderful! Congrats and thanks to all who were involved. It's nice to see some victories. Wonderful! Congrats and thanks to all who were involved. It’s nice to see some victories.

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