Sam’s Jail Blog: Wednesday, May 6

Wednesday, May 6:
Sam
Yesterday afternoon “captain” Mousseau came into the day room to tell us the boiler is broken, and there’s 1-80 gal. H/W heater for the entire jail. He told us the showers would be cold, and it wouldn’t be fixed for a day or two. He asked us to “bear with them” for a few days while they got this fixed.

At the last outside recreation, which we’re given a few times a week, Kelly Pouliot was talking with me. I forget how it came up, but she suggested that I now lived at the jail.

There’s another aspect to their system that I missed up this point. The jail superintendent Richard Van-Wickler does what he can to ensure the “inmates” are treated with courtesy and respect by the guards.

What did I miss? The people working in this governmental “justice” system are delusional.

I’m not an inmate, I’m a prisoner. I don’t live here, I’m being held captive here.

I won’t bear with them, we have no choice but to take it.

I was at a hotel in Scotland when the power went out one evening. It wasn’t their fault, a couple of blocks were affected and it would be out for the night. They ordered pizzas for guests in the lobby, bellhops carried guests up with flashlights, they rebooked anyone who requested it, and they were very accommodating to anyone who wanted to “bear with them.”

Of course, that’s in the private market where no single entity is granted a monopoly on providing hotel rooms for all their efforts. The jail is putting lipstick on a pig. The boiler, which suffered a ruptured tank is supposed to be fixed Friday.

There is a better way.

SamIAm

  • Markus

    I'll be curious to learn when the hot water gets fixed (not that it works very well anyway).

    And they let the prisoners outside a few times a week. What an ignorant barbaric way to treat those innocent, until proven guilty… but this is America now, May, 2009.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Comment by Suzanne

    May 9, 2009 @ 10:26 am

    I feel that Ian, Sam, or whatever he chooses to call himself for the day is doing nothing but trying to draw attention to himself as the victim. I was an inmate at the Cheshire House of correction, and there have been many times when I was waiting for my tray in the same line that he was in, never was he refused a tray. He always took it and traded it with somebody else for something. He has nothing to do so he plays this political game trying to make something out of absolutely nothing, more attention for Ian, Sam, or again, whoever he chooses to be just another game.

    As for the officers, I find them to be very respectful, I have unfortunately been in other institutions and find Cheshire House of Corrections to be the most respectful, the officers were always available to listen when I had something to say or when I needed something from clothing change, haircuts, etc,,,,, Ian, Sam has never been denied anything, he has always been treated with respect no matter what he has asked for. I feel people should just ignore him and not give him the satisfaction of feeding into his games, lies.

    In my brief conversations with him I found him to beconsistently trying to come up with something else to get more attention cast on him. He thrives on attention for phony causes.

    Just ignore this guy, he is no better than anybody else. He has his followers who have no idea what is really going on inside the jail accept for what he proclaims, and the media as well.

  • Anton Lee

    the difference is that Sam didn't do anything wrong. You seem pretty used to the bars, are you someone who lives their life hurting and stealing from others?

    The "followers" are people concerned for a man who was put in a cage for videotaping in a public place. He's drawing attention, not to himself, but to the corrupt and inept system that is immoral.

    Jails and prisons are supposed to be to remove DANGEROUS people from where they could hurt innocent people. Sam is not dangerous to anyone who is innocent, but he's very dangerous to the true criminals who work to capture regular hardworking people.

  • NHite

    Can't they just let the attention whore out of jail so he can stop making the state look foolish?

    Is NH really that stupid. — I guess they are.

    Who keeps a person as a prisoner for using a video camera a public place?

  • http://ringingliberty.com paul

    Uh, Suzanne? You do know that Ian and Sam are two different people, right? I'm not going to take the time to respond to the rest of this inanity.

  • Vesuvius

    Though I patently disagree with the effectiveness of Sam's hunger strike, I agree whole-heartedly with his attempts to get attention. Even to those who barely know him, his incarceration is a disgrace and a scathing reminder that even the slightest deviation from the dictates of those who claim arbitrary authority will deprive one of their freedom indefinitely, in this – the land of the free.

    I really wish the trolls would address the issue of WHY Sam is in that facility instead of just calling him an attention whore. And the "attention whore" doesn't care if you pay attention to him or not, just the system of casual violence nearly everyone I come across nonchalantly turns a blind eye to. Wake up people, or it'll be your turn next.

  • another POV

    I find that FSP propoganda is consistently one-sided. As a Keene local who pays attention to what is going on, I can see both sides of the argument. Often what is posted on here is not completely accurate, and it concerns me for all the out-of-staters who get riled up by what they read here. They may not find what they expect to find upon moving to Keene.

    At any rate, Suzanne has had an experience that none of us have had and it's worth considering what she says. No researcher would accept a single source to make decisions, and neither should we.

    I appreciate another point of view. Having read the way free staters in Keene spin other events in Keene, I am skeptical (though still listening) to what Sam reports.

  • AnarchoJesse

    In your "view", POV, what have the locals in Keene spun? How has it been one-sided?

  • give us ur lie

    FSP propoganda is ruining you…yes you reading this…get out with your life while you can

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Yes, Lie, people should drop what they're doing and go use coercion against someone as soon as possible. This "Don't initiate violence against your neighbors" stuff is rotting people's brains. Go extort some money from someone, quick! Before you loose your life! 50 bonus points for each house you steal, and if you lock someone in a cage indefinitely for remaining silent, you get a gold star! Free box of cigarettes and shot glass if you ruin someone's life for holding a plant you disapprove of.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Paul,

    To answer your question, yes I do know that Sam and Ian are not the same in one., however, to use a children's Book for a name is rather childish, Sam I am, I am Sam. Why don't YOU be totally honest with people and tell them that "Sam" can walk anytime he chooses and the REAL reason he's in there. You make it sound like he's held prisoner, No, Paul, he's a guest who's only desire is to draw ATTENTION to himself, if you want to be honest, then let's get started.

  • Jeff

    Suzanne,

    Apparently you miss the point behind Sam's position completely. The principal offense that Sam has committed in the eyes of 'the authorities' is that he DID NOT OBEY.

    If video recording in the lobby of the 'courthouse' or any other public building is illegal, and that is what he was doing when he got arrested, why isn't he charged with 'video recording in a courthouse'? Oh yeah, that's right…what he was doing IS NOT ILLEGAL.

    So I guess you must have missed that point. He's in jail for NOT OBEYING an order that can not, could not, and does not carry the force of law behind it. Perhaps that's a little to complex an issue for you to understand. And now that the state is committed to holding him until he obeys, which he most likely won't, it only serves to illustrate this fact even more.

    It's be so much easier for all of us to be free if people like you could simply grasp the fact that no one has the right to force you to obey arbitrary orders, steal what they want from you, and otherwise be a siphon on your life simply because they put some silly ass words on pieces of paper and dress themselves up in the word 'government'.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    He was given the opportunity to vacate, however, again, due to his need for "ATTENTION", he chose not to. When given an order from a Police Officer, yes, you obey. You seem to neglect the fact, that there was No Videotaping allowed, so what makes "Sam I am" so different or special than anybody else. If this were another country he might just be thrown in a Prison and forgotten about, and I can guarantee that your followers would not be picketing outside the prison, or you would be joining him. Let's just be honest, this business is just another reason for ill minded people like you to have a reason to rally for nonsense, and another reason for the poor "innocent victim" to get attention. He is getting everything he wants, attention and followers for his alleged cause. It will be funny when he and you run out of things to rally about, … It's very sad that Keene is getting a bad rap because of people like you. This is a free country, so who are you to try and take over a town. I laugh at people like you. And by the way, have you ever talked to him without the media, are you all so blind?? Oh and for his hunger strike, please, again, your taking his words, " I'm on a hunger strike, well here is one for you, I am the Prince of Whales, really

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Suzanne,

    What happened to the right to remain silent? Yes, Suzanne, he could boot lick illegal authority like most people do most of the time, and get out. But, he's choosing to stand up for our rights, and for that he deserves our thanks.

    During all of the totalitarian regimes in history, you could stay out of jail if you just gave up your rights and boot licked. Communist China is just fine, as long as you're pro communist. The USSR wouldn't throw you in jail as long as you snitched on your neighbors and followed the party. You'd be fine in Nazi Germany as long as you don't speak up for Jewish people, gays, or cripples. Heck, even Jewish people in Nazi Germany could often avoid the camps if they turned snitch and helped the government. The founders of our country would never had a problem with King George if they'd just paid the taxes without complaint.

    You say, "When given and order by a Police officer, yes, you obey". This is a very anti-American, anti freedom idea. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not men, and the laws say you can tape in a public place, you have a right to remain silent, and you have a right to a speedy trial.

    People like Sam have existed throughout history. They stood in front of the tanks at Tiananmen Square, marched with Ghandi in India, harbored Jews in Germany, threw tea into the Boston harbor, helped slaves along the underground railroad, and refused to give up their seat in the segregationist south.

    All of these actions were illegal at the time, all of them were unpopular, and all of them have been vindicated by history.

    During each of these actions there were many people like you, who said, "Keep your head down, stay out of trouble — if you wouldn't cause such a scene, you'd be fine. The trouble you're experiencing is your own fault, because you won't boot lick authority. When the CIA officer/KGB officer/SS officer/Police officer tells you to do something, by golly, you do it!"

    Thank goodness the people like Sam throughout history ignored the people like you throughout history, and stood for what they believed to be right, against the government and against popular opinion when necessary, and thank goodness Sam is ignoring people like you now.

    Stop boot licking, and stand up for what is right.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Paul,

    You are very very wordy. If you need something to rally for, why don't you and your followers go to Iraq and replace our soldiers there who are there for us, protecting our Country, the land of the free, then I would be inclined to listen to your nonsense.

  • Mikearchy

    Suzanne, I have a nice set of Doc Martens and an arbitrary badge.

    Lick my boots.

    Lick them now.

    And if you don't obey my arbitrary dictates, my fancy badge gives me authority to taze you… or worse.

    Wake up.

    (And that's not a threat. Just an analogy.)

    M.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    If you or a family member needed the Police, or the badge, would you hesitate to call, or would you take matters into your own hands, oh, that's right, you would take matters into your own hands and sit behind bars and be the poor victim too, Please it's time for you people to wake up. This is such a silly cause, there have been so many more important ones than poor Sam " who can leaves when he wants" let's not forget, We have laws for a reason, and believe it or not, they are in place to protect us. I would much rather have a police officer protect me than have you people going on and on about how much of a "victim" I am. And if I could just walk out of jail, duh, what would that answer be. You are all trying to be martyrs, as well as " Sam", give it up, until you really know what it's like to be "behind bars" , grow up and leave Keene alone, so go somewhere where you are needed, oh I don't know, Russia, go break a law there and see what happens. Or rally for one of your victims there, and be up in arms because he "says" he is on a hunger strike, do you really think the Russians would care, I highly doubt it. I feel bad for all of your children who are learning such horrible things from you.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Suzanne,

    They are occupying another country. That has nothing to do with defense. The fact that you call this the "land of the free", and also say, "If a policeman tells you to do something, you do it" is beyond ironic.

    Tell me exactly, what do you mean that this is "the land of the free". Freedom has a definition, you know, it's not an empty patriotic slogan you throw around to feel good.

    Here's what freedom means, according to Webster:

    1: the quality or state of being free: as a: the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action b: liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another

    And yet, you apparently believe police can rightfully restrict your choice of (peaceful) action by use of coercion, and have arbitrary power over others.

    Oh the irony. You repeat slogans about freedom, but fail to recognize or defend the real thing.

    Our country does have some great things about it — its founding did represent a great leap forward in freedom. If people like you had their way, however, we'd still be part of Britian. Why, we have to obey the British rule of law! It's there to protect us! When a redcoat tells you to do something, you do it! The freedom you sloganize and bastardize is the product of people like Sam, and the victory of people like him over people like you.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    1: the quality or state of being free: as a: the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action b: liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another

    Did you not read this line. He is not a slave, he is not being restrained, he is the one making the choice to stay where he is. Again, I say when you have something constructive to say, I will entertain your nonsense.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    That's the second definition — did you read the first one: the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action? And then, after slavery, there's an "or". You do know how dictionaries work don't you?

    And, what about the rest of my post, which you never responded to?

    The fact that he can leave if he gives up his rights does not make him any less a prisoner, any more than a person who gets shot by a robber who shouted "your money or your life" is not a victim of murder.

    He has the RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Do you understand that? It's an important part of that "freedom" word you pay lip service to. Do you understand that if no one stands up for their rights, they go away?

    If a robber says, "your money or your life" and then shoots someone because they do not hand over their money, they are still guilty of murder. If a bureaucrat says, "your freedom or your rights", and then imprisons someone indefinitely if they do not give up their rights, they are still guilty of kidnapping.

    I am not convinced that you are thinking honestly about any of these things, and I fear that you are beyond hope. I feel that any intellectually honest readers of this exchange probably have understood my points by now. So, if you post drivel yet again, I'm not going to waste my time responding. If someone else doesn't understand or disagrees with what I'm saying, I'd be happy to talk with them — especially if they're willing to actually think honestly.

  • Kris

    Paul,

    You are wasting your time with her. Until the police carry off her son on some charge that he is innocent of, and create some crime for him, and slander him to the public, she just will not understand.

    Suzanne,

    I see your side, but Paul is approaching this to you the wrong way.

    Do you feel like your government is upholding your rights, or do you see your government attempting to erode your rights? Sam is attempting to point out and stop the government from infringing on our rights.

    In my situation, I told a police officer he could not come into my home without a warrant (nothing bad was going on inside my house). He said I was being disrespectful and took me to jail and booked me with "public intoxication" when I had absolutely nothing to drink. Keep in mind – I was in my home! I spent 2 years going through this horrible legal system only to have my charge dismissed by the court for zero evidence. I WAS innocent. I just attempted to exercise my 4th Amendment right of

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    He searched my house after handcuffing me because he thought I had drugs – I did not and do not do or keep drugs. There was no contraband in my home. I just did not want him snooping around.

    Should we just give up our rights so as not to rock the boat? They asked for me to give up my 4th Amendment this time, next time the 2nd Amendment, and for Sam it is the 1st Amendment. If we give up the 1st Amendment, then the only information you will get will be the information they give you. This country CAN be great. It does take people standing up to tyranny to stop the oppression though. If you just roll over and give them what they want, they will ask for more each time.

    Get away from this website and do some other research on this subject. There is a world of info out there. Spend some time researching it. Start with a google search and just type in "police raid" and see how many hits you get, read some of them. How many innocent people has our government "accidentally" killed? All I ask, is that you educate and inform yourself. You do not have to share my views, and I respect your beliefs. Please at least familiarize yourself with the facts though. Knowledge is the real power.

  • http://www.freekeene.com Angela

    Dear Zusanne

    Do you really think that what you are trying to say really matters to people like us. You know what really makes me laugh is people like you who say " Its a free country, we do what we want" well if thats how it was then we wouldnt have the goverment controlling everything we do. Yes i agree we have laws for a reason and the reason is to protect people like us from crazy people like you. Sam did not do anything wrong. Can you provide me with legal papers that say u may not record in a public court house in the loby. What you really should do is go to Russia and let them controll you then see for yourself what they do to innocent people. I know this because i did come from a communist country and it was not pretty. What you are doing is following the goverment like they are your family. the thing is they are not your family or even friends they are people who want to controll every part of you. wouldnt it be crazy if you went to jail and someone has raped you there and now you caru a strangers baby maybe in that case you can say this is not right. you are to innocent of your mistakes but when they hold you in prison because you didnt kiss their ass well maybe you will see the side that we talk about. you dont have to be a libertarian to see how our goverment is corrupt. Grow up a little and like Kris has said go do more research on google instead of this website. This country is not based on the goverment and how we can kiss their ass its based on the nation. Dont you remember our pledge of alligence????? I PLEDGE OF ALLIGENCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED SATTES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISABLE FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. see the last part and tell me if thats how our country is now today??????????????

  • Zeus

    Suzanne's posts have been filled with vitriol and invective from the get-go. She is either incapable of understanding due to thorough nationalist brainwashing or she does understand and still refuses to engage in a civil discussion of philosophy. This makes her unworthy of further dialogue.

    Like Paul, I choose to ostracize her.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    First and foremost, Angela, like I said earlier, why don't you go to Russia with your friends and do what seems to make you all so happy, rally for somebody you don't even know, carry your guns, which I find very offensive and march for such a silly cause. Do you really need to carry guns to get a point across. Notice there is no mention of this in any of your comments. So, just what do you need the guns for.? Also get an education if you want to live in our Country, land of the free. Do you want the right to shoot somebody if they piss you off and then take the stand of " the first", and say they pissed you off so you exercised your rights, really people, grow up, we are not in the 70's anymore, people like you are so childish, you really don't have anything better to do?

    To address freedom of speech, yes, we do have freedom of speech, you are all OBVIOUSLY excersizing it by carrying your weapons and doing these rallying for what you are calling a cause to Not allowing the Government to control you. Has anybody stopped you, NO.

    So what is really your point, accept that you may be looking for something else to bitch about.

    If you hate our government so much why don't you excersiSE your right of "freedom" and leave our Country. You go on and on about how you think I don't understand your stand, I feel that I do, however, there are limits and you people are trying to build our nation as communist, think about it. And, yes, it is your freedom to ignore me which I really don't care about, but, there will always be people like me, and unfortunately people like you.

    Kris, may I ask you, when the police went to your home and arrested you, did they pick you at random, what brought them there to begin with.

    While I do agree with you, they had no right to search your home without a warrant, I just wonder what brought them there.

    So all in all, while you all choose to ostracize me, that is fine, my goal is not to be one of you, but, to show that there is a lot more to this story that you don't seem to share with people. Sam was videotaping something on a wall in a court house, and although Angela there are no "papers" that say you cannot do so, it was posted on the wall the clearly stated 'VIDEOTAPING PROHIBITED", what part of that would you like me to tell you. You people feel you can do anything, go anywhere, and do what ever you want. Well, there are laws and yes we must abide by them or go to jail like poor Sam. If you don't like our Country, our Government, our Laws, then do us all a favor and LEAVE.

  • http://www.freekeene.com Angela

    Zusanne.

    is the only vocabulary that exists in your own little world is leave???????? if you dont like our laws just leave just leave just leave wow you really do need to get educated i have nothing further more to say to u other then JUST LEAVE HAHAHAHHHHHHHHH

  • http://freetalklive.com/ Ian

    She seems to insist on believing Sam has chosen to be behind bars. That is not correct. Sam chose to record video in a public place and men with guns calling themselves the police put him in a jail cell. They chose to put him there – that was not Sam's choice. Sam has chosen to remain silent, and they have chosen to keep him imprisoned without trial because of it.

    Calling this freedom is laughable, Suzanne.

  • http://www.freekeene.com Angela

    I agree with you Ian 100% she will abuse and use that and everything on here against us so let her and dont stop her supposedly like she says it a free country and i can do whatever i want. Sooner or later she will realize whats happenning in our country and the only thing she will say id Just Leave cuz thats all she knows how to say.

  • Vix

    Suzanne: Do you have the right not to be offended?

    If you don’t like the fact that people around u are carrying guns then you should be complaining about the cops/government types carrying to.

    Also no one is forcing you to be around people open carrying if you don’t like it move to DC or some other place that has banned gun from everybody but the criminals.

    What part of I want to live freely without taking anyone’s life/liberty/property through force or fraud don’t you get? I’m not going to hurt anyone its against everything I believe in, now if we could only get the government to follow the same rules everything would be SOO much better in this state/country/world.

    About leaving this land mass: Where can I go? My understanding is that all land is currently owned by one government or another.

    About the paper on the wall: It was not SIGHNED and that’s why its not valid at all thus Sam was arrested unlawfully and should be freed ASAP if not sooner.

  • Kris

    Suzanne,

    A courtesy officer at the apartments came and told me my music was to loud. I turned it down. The courtesy officer called the police and said he suspected there were people doing drugs in my house – THERE WERE NOT. To this day, I do not know why he did that. Maybe he had a bad day…. I don't know, maybe he just wanted to exercise some power and authority…

    The police came out wanting to search my place for drugs. I said I did not want them in my house and because of exercising my rights they assumed I had something to hide. Once arresting me, they went back to the house and obtained permission from somebody else who did not live there to search the house. They got around the warrant, go figure. This is despite the fact that it was MY home and me telling them they could NOT search it and me sitting 20 feet away handcuffed in a police car. All they need is ANYONE that is in a home to tell them to come in and they have free reign to search or go through whatever they like. Did they look through the pictures of my girlfriend, did they see the one of her without a shirt on that she gave me? Did they get a good laugh about that? This was 6 years ago and I still feel so violated.

    The point is, nobody else lived there that was in my home and they all saw me get pulled out of my home and arrested. They were all to afraid of getting arrested as well to tell the police they could not come in. Nobody else wanted to go to jail, so they let the police do what they wanted.

    Now, Suzanne, I understand how you feel. We have all been raised to believe that the police are honest and care about us. We would all love to believe that the officers all wear the badge with the wording of "to serve and to protect" with pride. The true fact of the matter is that the institution is broken. In Texas, you need 16 hours of college to become a police officer. Okay, well that's not to hard, that's a few physical education classes and maybe a freshman government class.

    Why is it that a couple of the bully's from my high school are now police officers though? Why did those people who pushed people around end up holding the positions our society gives some of it's highest trust and respect to?

    Nobody on this website is happy in any way at all about our beliefs. It is just the opposite, it is so terribly sad that I believe what I do about our government. I wish I could have faith.

    I am not forming my opinions based on my own bad experience with the police either, that experience made me research to find out if this happened to other people. It did not take long for me to find out that not only is this not a rare situation, it is EXTREMELY COMMON and that I should feel lucky to not have had it as bad as some people.

    Do the research, search for police raids, wrongful arrests, police abuse, police corruption and on and on.

    The problem is, once you find out all this information and realize you are being lied to, you can not go back to a happy little bubble of being naive and believe you are living in a free country that prides itself on the rights of it's people. If it would truly bother you to believe what the people here believe, don't try to learn more. Stop reading and stop paying attention to us. Sometimes the truth can be really really disappointing.

    The phrase "ignorance is bliss" becomes more true the more I learn.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Kris,

    To you I truly apologize, what happened to you is totally uncalled for. I can understand why you might be angry especially if you told them you didn't want them in your home and somebody else took the liberty of letting them. I due appreciate the fact that you decided without sarcasim to share a little of what happened to you. It does not change my opinion, but, thank you for sharing why you might be feeling this way.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Vix,

    I am not the one having a problem with the government so why should I be the one to go to DC, you seem to be having the problem, and you ask, where can you go, doesn't that tell you something. The entire nation is not going to change for you and your followers, there is right and wrong. Yes, I understand that what Sam was taping was not signed, however, there "Still" was a sign stating "videotaping prohibited", there are just some laws that we have to respect no matter where we live.

  • Kris

    No need to apologize to me Suzanne, I'm just here making sure things like this don't happen to you…

  • Vix

    Suzanne: How about you support/stand with us when government does not respect its own laws.

    That sign needs to be signed its the LAW, so since its not sign its not a law its a request.

    Yes your having a problem with people wearing guns around you not me. That's why I suggeted you should move to a place with less guns around (like DC).

    Yes RIGHT (not hurting anyone that hasn’t hurt someone else 1st) and WRONG (hurting people that have not hurt anyone else 1st) Or is your definition of right/wrong all about obeying the state?

    Its kinda funny (and very sad) you tell people like me to leave, but cant answer the follow-up question.

  • Suzanne2

    Hey Suzanne – Rock on Baby!!! I'm right there by your side! The FSP needs to find an island somewhere so they can deaggress each other to death.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Vix,

    I don't even know what your questions is. No matter where we live in this nation we have to follow laws. To keep challenging them in the way that you is not getting you anywhere. If you want to change things why don't you run for the senate, state or even President for that matter. You only create hatred among people with doing it in the manner that you do and walking around with your guns and attitude. Sam is in jail because he chooses to be. Your right, he exercised his right to remain silent which is all fine and well, however, you people have all taken it personally like somebody has hurt you in some way. Sam is getting what he wants so just leave him there, he can leave anytime he wants to, he is making his own choice. What do you honestly think you are going to accomplish by doing things this way, again, I say, he is there of his own accord… There does come a time when everybody has to follow the law of land and you can fight and fight, however, until you stand up to change things instead of picketing with your guns and attitudes nothing will ever change.

  • Vix

    Suzanne:

    My Question to you was (I'm sorry if you missed it) "About leaving this land mass: Where can I go to be free? (My understanding is that all land is currently owned by one government or another.)"

    Question: Why is the only answer to fixing the system using it. If I morally object to the system of force called government it then how do I fix it?

    My guess would be the government and its use of force creates more hatred than people not obeying the government could ever create.

    Again with the guns??

    What is your problem with the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms??

    Are you this scared of the government people walking about with guns??

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Well Vix, if you would of read my last comment you would see that after reading yours several times, I kind of figured out what your questions was. As for the right to bear arms, your just taking advantage of something else to picket about and complain about. Why are you in the United States anyway, you appear to hate everything about it. Make positive changes rather than consistently trying to bully people with your actions and your guns. Really, can you tell me, why you need to carry a gun, is it just to try and make you look tougher. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but , people like you who picket with their weapon showing are thought to be show offs, it really doesn't appeal to many people.

  • http://yahoo.com Suzanne

    Here is a thought, part of an interview Sam gave, why don't you all go there and eat Pizza's

    I was at a hotel in Scotland when the power went out one evening. It wasn’t their fault, a couple of blocks were affected and it would be out for the night. They ordered pizzas for guests in the lobby, bellhops carried guests up with flashlights, they rebooked anyone who requested it, and they were very accommodating to anyone who wanted to “bear with them.”

    of course, let's remember, he was at a hotel, not in jail where he chooses to stay,. Don't you think it's time to wake up,

  • http://freetalklive.com/ Ian

    Suzanne,

    Can you please explain how it is he is "choosing" to be in jail, when he actually chose to record video in the court lobby?

    You talk a lot about your precious "laws" but ignore the supposed supreme law of your system, the NH and US constitutions. Both specify the freedom of the press shall not be infringed. Seems to me the government aggressors chose to ignore their own laws, but you still back them. Can you explain why?

  • Kris

    Suzanne,

    I agree with your right to your own opinions and feelings, which I'm sure are formed from your own personal experiences. I respect that. What I don't think you understand though, is that you have blinders over your eyes to what is really happening in the country you live in. I'm not pointing you to any conspiracy websites, I'm not suggesting you believe anything that I tell you. All I am saying is that to properly argue with somebody, you should at the VERY LEAST understand and know the points of their side.

    Pleading ignorance to what is going on all around you, and at the same time putting the people down who are standing up for your rights doesn't make any sense.

    Why Suzanne is a sign on a wall a law? How did that law go into effect? Was it voted on in the State House, the city council? Do you now feel a judge has the ability to make laws? What is the difference between a judge and a dictator such as Saddam Hussein if so? Where exactly is that line the judge should not be allowed to cross?

    Now, what every single person on this website will agree to, is that if you put that very same sign on the wall in your home, your privately owned property, it will be absolutely and 100% unquestioningly respected and followed. You will not see that violated by one single person from the FSP.

    That courthouse is public property, it belongs to you as much as any other person. CNN, NBC, ABC news could all walk in there and film to their hearts content. Why can't Sam Dodson? Please refer us to the law that he violated. Please tell everyone here how blind obedience is the best route when told by somebody else what to do.

    If obedience is what you are preaching, then I need for you to come mow my lawn. It's quite overgrown. I have a badge and a uniform that I can go put on when I tell you to do that in person. I will see you Wednesday at 4pm. You will be free to leave at 6:30pm.

    I also need for you to pay me $20 for having to "deal with you" while you are mowing my lawn. Please leave a check in the door. Don't forget to bag the grass and leave it at the curb.

    Have a problem with this? Tell me the difference between me and police officer/judge giving you community service for oh say…. filming in a public place. In your case, I'm going to randomly decide that you don't get your 1st Amendment protection anymore and you have offended people on this website. Caring for my lawn is how you will make things right for anyone who may have been offended.

    Did Sam violate the law or not???????????? Address the underlying question. Is a sign on a wall a LAW. If it is private property, it should be stronger than a law. If it is public property, we all better agree on that sign before it gets put up. Our elected officials make laws, not a judge in a bad mood. Would ABC/NBC/FOX/CNN have seen the sign and turned off their cameras? They would have laughed at the sign. Sam just asked to see an order signed by a judge before complying with it. He asked if there was any legal backing to that sign.

    Now, he can leave any time, but only if he admits that his rights are a facade. If he admits that your 1st amendment right to speak your mind is really only available when a government official decides you may have it then he may go.

    And here you are preaching to us, that he can leave anytime. Countless people have died protecting your rights, please show some respect for them.

    Thank you.

  • Difranco

    Sam,

    You DO live at the jail. You can only exist at one place at a time. You living body is being held captive. Don't use their definitions of words, for they are deceptive.

    Bless you and good luck.

  • cyberdoo78

    Suzanne,

    I've heard you several times talk about people and them wearing guns. You seem to indicate that wearing a gun is a bad thing. It appears they scare you. You've been asked if it is the gun who scares you or if it is just the person that scares you.

    Criminals don't obey laws. No gun law in the world would protect you should a criminal decide to gun you down for the pleasure of doing so, never mind a legitimate reason for doing so. Since it is a fact that police can not protect everyone, ask any victim who was victimized by a gun wielding criminal where the police were? We as responsible individuals, that is individuals who recognize that police can not be everywhere and that we are responsible for protecting ourselves from criminals because police can not do so, we decide to carry guns.

    Recently it was another like us who saved the lives of 10 people at a college campus because he carried a gun and was able to protect the lives of 10 of his friends against two gun toting criminals intent on rape, robbery, and possibly murder.

    When a gun is placed against your head by a criminal, what are the odds of you being murdered if you carried a gun, versus the odds of the police rescuing you?

    Guns should not be feared, it is people who use them to do crimes that should be feared. Those of us who carry guns, do so to protect ourselves from criminals so we aren't victims, and further I would be willing to lay down my life to protect yours against such a criminal.

    Check out a place called Kennesaw, Georgia, on May 1, 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-1a] requiring every head of household to maintain a firearm together with ammunition. Current crime rates show that it has a lower crime rate then the national average per capita, and also a lower rate then those of surrounding towns.

    What really is your problem with guns?

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