ACTION ITEM: HB 312, Police Transparency

May 25, 2009 by
Filed under: Issues, Personal Freedom, Police, ToDo 

ACTIONUnder current NH law, audio recording a police officer is explicitly illegal, except with their consent. This means that NH police officers currently have the law on their side when they order an individual to shut off their video camera. Of course police officers are permitted to, and routinely do, video and audio record the public without any consent. The law clearly is not written to protect the people, but rather government bureaucrats who do not want the public to see what they are actually doing and how they are treating people.

House Bill 312 would give the public the right to audio record a police officer while they are carrying out their official duties. Joel Winters, who is the primary sponsor of this bill, crafted the language of this piece of legislation to give the power back to the people.

“AN ACT permitting a person to record a law enforcement officer in the course of such officer’s official duties.”

This piece of legislation has passed the NH House and is currently awaiting a vote from the Senate Judiciary Committee. These committee members, as well as your senator, need to hear from from you. Contact your senator today as well as the Senate Judiciary Committee and ask them to vote in favor of this vital piece of legislation.

The government is supposed to serve the people, not the other way around. There should not be any laws on the books that give preferential treatment to government officials or police officers. “On the job, on the record.” Police officers who have nothing to hide should be in favor of their official duties being documented. Officers who have something to hide need to be exposed and replaced.

Read the entirety of HB 312.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    If a violent gang were ruling the neighborhood, with the approval of much of the populace, would I try to educate people as to it's immorality? Yes. If a person tried to gain leadership of the gang who would greatly reduce its violence, would I vote for them? Yes. Can some of the education be accomplished by people seeking to obtain leadership of the gang in order to reduce or eliminate its violence? Yes.

    I know many, including myself, who were moved towards partial or full rejection of the state by Paul's campaign.

    We need rejection of coersive government by the people, and we also need people working to reduce and eliminate coersive government from the inside.

    By the way, if a "libertarian" is going around forcibly collecting taxes, they're in the wrong, and there's no question that my sympathies lay with the victim. Any liberty minded person should be doing everything they can to eliminate the initiation of force against peaceful people.

  • http://members.cox.net/rengobnor/ Ron

    So how does this relate to the case of Sam D? He had audio recording running along with video recording in the courthouse hallway. Should they have told him to disconnect the microphone?

  • charley hardman

    Let me amend my statement to say Ron’s the best public voice for Liberty in our lifetime.

    nonsense. the only reasons he's on your radar are 1) he's a traitor to his alleged principle (nonaggression), and 2) most of the american "liberty" movement — you included — is enthralled by celebrity hero-worship of fedgoon politicians. thousands are far better spoken than ron paul and don't have the fatal flaw of making a career of personal aggression. again, i name the 2008$3M amount. it isn't going away; you ignore it, for it puts ron paul, correctly, in the gutter with the rest of the fedgoon filth. he's a career statist and pussified plunderer of wealth created by his betters — a traitor to his espoused principle of non-aggression. he's at heart just another nuremberg defense scumbag, and you're one of his fans.

    YES, I am that stupid, because I don’t know what you mean by that fully.

    your problem. on 19 may i accused you on this site of executing straw man fallacy. you said then that you didn't get it, and apparently did nothing to change that. now, you quote some vague mostly inapplicable tertiary crap (‘To accuse people of attacking a straw man [...]’) then do your innocent "just trying, dude" routine. to hell with you.

    Saying i obviously love the state deeply seems like a simple insult, because I simply don’t love the state. What made you think that?

    your mindless over-the-top adoration for a career criminal statist. ron paul is the best of the worst of the fedgoons, eclipsed by many thousands of intellectual and moral superiors.

    , and we also need people working to reduce and eliminate coersive government from the inside.

    laughable non sequitur from yet another state slurper posing at freekeene.com. there is only one moral and practical position in this regard: rejection of the state.

  • Zeus

    Charley, is it absolutely necessary in your defense of liberty to be a total dick?

    I understand that being violated over a lifetime by statist policies is enough to emotionally scar anyone but maybe you could focus your rage on your direct oppressors instead of spewing forth a relentless barrage of ad hominem attacks on indoctrinated cogs who've just taken their first dip in the liberty pool?

    You have a few flaws of your own you might want to work on before bludgeoning others with stones of invective, particularly your inability to control your negative emotions, an inefficiency at prioritizing the targets of your ire, inadequate communication skills and some sort of superiority complex over anyone who hasn't yet reached your vision of liberty.

  • charley hardman

    is it absolutely necessary in your defense of liberty to be a total dick?

    says the biggest dick on this site.

    barrage of ad hominem attacks

    state explicitly and honestly (if possible) why you use the term "ad hominem" there.

  • Zeus

    says the biggest dick on this site.

    I'm afraid you have me confused with yourself. Or perhaps you'd like to back up your assertion with proof? I may be an opinionated loudmouth at times but I do try to keep an open mind should any arguments I hear ring true. You, however, have been entirely confrontational and vindictive since you first appeared on this site.

    state explicitly and honestly (if possible) why you use the term “ad hominem” there.

    Thanks for the dig at my honesty. I appreciate that attack as well because, hell, who could possibly be honest these days besides yourself, right?

    I use the term "ad hominem" because it means to "attack the man and not the argument" which you do aplenty.

    Labeling LPViper a coward:

    the assertion that violence begets violence is easily controverted coward-speak

    Insulting LPViper's mental faculties:

    would be funny were it not evidence of deep mental degradation/infancy.

    Insulting LPViper's mental faculties:

    are you that stupid?

    Labeling LPViper a state-lover:

    you obviously love the state deeply.

    Labeling LPViper a scumbag-by-association:

    he’s at heart just another nuremberg defense scumbag, and you’re one of his fans.

    Etc.

    to hell with you.

    state-slurper

    That explicit enough for you?

    At all times, LPViper has attempted a bit of levity in his discussion with you, appeared open-minded and you have returned the favor by viciously bludgeoning him over the head with a rock nearly every time.

    If this is the way you educate others, I hope you never do it for a living. I can only imagine there'd be an abnormal amount of children in your region with scarred psyches before you were fired in disgrace.

    "Mr. Hardman called me a coward, a retard and scumbag because I got the answer wrong, Mommy! I'm never going back there! He's mean!", Little Johnny cried.

    And let me be very clear on this: I don't favor many of LPViper's statements or arguments anymore than you do but the guy was asking some legitimate questions you completely ignored. He stated he's new to the concepts of liberty and you've done nothing but attempt to humiliate and destroy him with your savage retorts.

    Browbeating him isn't going to teach him anything about liberty. There can be no understanding between two parties when one acts toward the other with such a cold, malevolent attitude.

    Is it really so much to ask that you engage in civil discussion on this site with healthy debate?

  • charley hardman

    but I do try to keep an open mind should any arguments I hear ring true

    baloney. you're a disingenuous ass.

    I use the term “ad hominem” because it means to “attack the man and not the argument”

    classic lemming buffoonery, with the context knocking it into la-la land.

  • Zeus

    I didn't think you'd actually address my legitimate criticisms, Charley.

    As for your diversionary "context" retort, I figured you'd play that card sooner or later and you didn't disappoint me, thus revealing your own disingenuous nature.

    To clarify: I haven't attacked your character, Charley. I've merely made objective observations about your negative attitude and your disparaging comments, supplied evidence of such and called you on it.

    As I suspected, you have no explanation (let alone a defense) for your brutish behavior.

  • Lpviper

    Charley could write these one-liners on index cards and bind em up and make a fortune

    You have to study it to understand the full degree to which you are being insulted

    It's interesting

  • charley hardman

    To clarify: I haven’t attacked your character, Charley. I’ve merely made objective observations about your negative attitude and your disparaging comments, supplied evidence of such and called you on it.

    As I suspected, you have no explanation (let alone a defense) for your brutish behavior.

    two brief paragraphs so riddled, contextually, with logical errors that i could write at least a huge kickass article about it.

    never argue from ignorance.

  • Lpviper

    'riddled, contextually, with logical errors'

    name three

  • Zeus

    There you go again making claims with no supporting evidence, Charley.

    Instead of making empty claims, why don't you point out with specificity what logical errors those two paragraphs have? You can't possibly be afraid I'll successfully refute your claims, can you? Of course not, not you. You're morally and intellectually superior. You hinted at such earlier.

    How is "calling out your objectionable behavior with objective observations supported by evidence" the same as "attacking your character and ignoring your argument"? I'm all agog for the answer to this mystery.

  • Lpviper

    I'm the comic relief

    three of em Charley…go

  • Lpviper

    I learnt that from Dane Cook

  • http://freemindstv.com Toby

    Agog is a very cool word. I'm going to try to use it more often.

  • Zeus

    "Serendipitous" and "Valkyrie" are also cool.

  • http://www.freedazzle.com catatonicanimal

    Does it really matter what laws they enact?They will just ignore them anyway.Take the constitution as example.The most revered laws of the US are ignored most of the time.Go ahead an change their laws .It means nothing.Ignore these overlords and be free :)

  • zonsb

    Government is men and women providing services at the barrel of a gun. If those services were worthy of their value people would willingly pay for them.

    Arguing and debating over their laws, handbooks, tactics etc. gives the liars, thieves and murders an air of legitimacy.

    They seek legitimacy as their primary need. For if they primarily sought control they skip the paper terrorism and dog & pony courtroom shows and just pull out their guns and make us all do what they tell us to do.

    They're not bureaucrats. They're terrocrats. That word strikes at the heart of their supposed legitimacy.

    If the terrocrats with their paper terrorism want a real war on terror they need look no further than themselves.

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