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	<title>Comments on: Dave Ridley Guilty at Trial</title>
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		<title>By: Lpviper</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-80257</link>
		<dc:creator>Lpviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &#039;peace is a means unto itself&#039; is not just a figure of speech.  I enjoy watching NH liberty activists proving me right.

Keep up the good fight, we&#039;ll be there soon as we are able!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8216;peace is a means unto itself&#8217; is not just a figure of speech.  I enjoy watching NH liberty activists proving me right.</p>
<p>Keep up the good fight, we&#8217;ll be there soon as we are able!</p>
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		<title>By: elkfartthetroll</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-80253</link>
		<dc:creator>elkfartthetroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YO! Don&#039;t worry about &quot;feeding trolls&quot;...Charley Hardlyaman has rocks for brains...he&#039;s a freakin&#039; rookie, to me...I coulda&#039; flamed his ass to Babylon &amp; back, if I had more time on here...he mistakes &quot;intelligence&quot; for &quot;intellect&quot;...he&#039;s got a little education, sure, but when(if) you get past his B.S., you find that he&#039;s still stuck in the same old circular psuedo-logic arguments...TO LSNL: ...&quot;play ball&quot;???...SHEESH!...enough with the sports metaphors, OK?...didn&#039;t know us TROLLS can fast, didja&quot;???...So, Zeus &amp; viper &amp; etc...you ROCK!...PAUL: Thanks for the link to the graphic! I got a good self-depracating chuckle out of it!...Let&#039;s see how long these guys last....a few weeks from now, they will be history...just keep ignoring the jerks...they *DO* eventually go away....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YO! Don&#8217;t worry about &#8220;feeding trolls&#8221;&#8230;Charley Hardlyaman has rocks for brains&#8230;he&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; rookie, to me&#8230;I coulda&#8217; flamed his ass to Babylon &amp; back, if I had more time on here&#8230;he mistakes &#8220;intelligence&#8221; for &#8220;intellect&#8221;&#8230;he&#8217;s got a little education, sure, but when(if) you get past his B.S., you find that he&#8217;s still stuck in the same old circular psuedo-logic arguments&#8230;TO LSNL: &#8230;&#8221;play ball&#8221;???&#8230;SHEESH!&#8230;enough with the sports metaphors, OK?&#8230;didn&#8217;t know us TROLLS can fast, didja&#8221;???&#8230;So, Zeus &amp; viper &amp; etc&#8230;you ROCK!&#8230;PAUL: Thanks for the link to the graphic! I got a good self-depracating chuckle out of it!&#8230;Let&#8217;s see how long these guys last&#8230;.a few weeks from now, they will be history&#8230;just keep ignoring the jerks&#8230;they *DO* eventually go away&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lpviper</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lpviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s sad is, there are good thoughts there, I think, and I try to pick them out, but when I ask specific questions that can&#039;t be answered by an insult, he vanishes.

Maybe I am &#039;straw man, dreck, idiot&#039;, whatever, it doesn&#039;t matter because I will never admit it to him or myself.  

And I don&#039;t really need to derive any info from him with all the resources that are available to us these days.

But part of me wants him on our team because he&#039;s smart.  It&#039;s too bad he&#039;s such an enormous prick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s sad is, there are good thoughts there, I think, and I try to pick them out, but when I ask specific questions that can&#8217;t be answered by an insult, he vanishes.</p>
<p>Maybe I am &#8217;straw man, dreck, idiot&#8217;, whatever, it doesn&#8217;t matter because I will never admit it to him or myself.  </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t really need to derive any info from him with all the resources that are available to us these days.</p>
<p>But part of me wants him on our team because he&#8217;s smart.  It&#8217;s too bad he&#8217;s such an enormous prick.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Steward</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80248</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Steward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you here Charlie Hardman? 

You attempt to run a scam (mostly successful only on yourself) to try to convince the members that you have something to contribute. Deflect away from this important point as much as you like but what is, still indeed is. 

You contribute nothing of substance. You have nothing to offer, your insults are of no value, they help no one at all, ever. Nothing is added to the conversation from your acidic spews that they can ever use to better their lives, improve their situation, or make changes to reduce government control in their existence. 

You have no solutions or you&#039;d have posted them long ago. Again why are you here if not to disrupt and prove to everyone here that you lack even the basic skills of polite, sociable behavior? Don&#039;t you think that you&#039;d like to change that about yourself? What has it really gained you?

There is nothing special about you in your current self-limiting state. Others just like yourself have on numerous forums and newsgroups, dedicated their time to very similar masochistic musings, all the while fooling themselves into believing that they have some &quot;magical talent&quot; yet produce nothing effective or valuable to show for their constant boasts. 

They all seem to get a very temporary (and addictive) charge out of the feedback they generate from their nastiness. It feeds what they have conned themselves into thinking is their reward for being a bully. 

What they are really feeding on in fact, is again that masochistic jolt of pleasure they get from the encounter. I don&#039;t know about you, but that is about the most pathetic self-imposed thing that a person would have to endure. I feel sorry for people who continue their lives that way. 

Do you really want that to be all that you are? Is that what you would want to see as the total sum of your legacy of your life on earth? If you are truly as intelligent as you want people to think that you are then your answer should be obvious. 

You enjoy messing with people and that never raises your &quot;status&quot; above that of any other person. It never will, of course. You can begin to have the potential to be a great person once you ditch that enslaving mindset.

I can&#039;t just ever in any circumstance see lifting myself up at the same time that I am pushing another man down. Why would you think that it would work in your case?   

Make the changes, Charlie. If you are truly sincere in a possible future personality transformation with yourself truly in control of who you are, then please understand that people are more forgiving here than you might think.  

Your alternative is to be forever regarded as a pathetic slave to your own mind, a sad wreck of a man to be constantly pitied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you here Charlie Hardman? </p>
<p>You attempt to run a scam (mostly successful only on yourself) to try to convince the members that you have something to contribute. Deflect away from this important point as much as you like but what is, still indeed is. </p>
<p>You contribute nothing of substance. You have nothing to offer, your insults are of no value, they help no one at all, ever. Nothing is added to the conversation from your acidic spews that they can ever use to better their lives, improve their situation, or make changes to reduce government control in their existence. </p>
<p>You have no solutions or you&#8217;d have posted them long ago. Again why are you here if not to disrupt and prove to everyone here that you lack even the basic skills of polite, sociable behavior? Don&#8217;t you think that you&#8217;d like to change that about yourself? What has it really gained you?</p>
<p>There is nothing special about you in your current self-limiting state. Others just like yourself have on numerous forums and newsgroups, dedicated their time to very similar masochistic musings, all the while fooling themselves into believing that they have some &#8220;magical talent&#8221; yet produce nothing effective or valuable to show for their constant boasts. </p>
<p>They all seem to get a very temporary (and addictive) charge out of the feedback they generate from their nastiness. It feeds what they have conned themselves into thinking is their reward for being a bully. </p>
<p>What they are really feeding on in fact, is again that masochistic jolt of pleasure they get from the encounter. I don&#8217;t know about you, but that is about the most pathetic self-imposed thing that a person would have to endure. I feel sorry for people who continue their lives that way. </p>
<p>Do you really want that to be all that you are? Is that what you would want to see as the total sum of your legacy of your life on earth? If you are truly as intelligent as you want people to think that you are then your answer should be obvious. </p>
<p>You enjoy messing with people and that never raises your &#8220;status&#8221; above that of any other person. It never will, of course. You can begin to have the potential to be a great person once you ditch that enslaving mindset.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t just ever in any circumstance see lifting myself up at the same time that I am pushing another man down. Why would you think that it would work in your case?   </p>
<p>Make the changes, Charlie. If you are truly sincere in a possible future personality transformation with yourself truly in control of who you are, then please understand that people are more forgiving here than you might think.  </p>
<p>Your alternative is to be forever regarded as a pathetic slave to your own mind, a sad wreck of a man to be constantly pitied.</p>
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		<title>By: charley hardman</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80247</link>
		<dc:creator>charley hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sarcasm. wow. sarcastic straw man. triple wow.

when of you dumb bastards has a refutation of &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; argument, send up a flare. you should be happy that my insults give you an excuse to ignore the uncomfortable (e.g., defensive violence you route through the state is still violence, violence isn&#039;t inherently wrong, voluntarists are debarred crime syndicate jury trials, non-statists may not &quot;file criminal charges&quot;, written order not required in this case, dave and sam picked shaky ground, FK participants &#8212; not dave in this case &#8212; are too often a joke when confronting court thugs, &quot;courtesy&quot; isn&#039;t worth a fuck when you&#039;re an imprecise joke, many FK participants pretend to advocate liberty while still thoroughly state-brainwashed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sarcasm. wow. sarcastic straw man. triple wow.</p>
<p>when of you dumb bastards has a refutation of <em>my</em> argument, send up a flare. you should be happy that my insults give you an excuse to ignore the uncomfortable (e.g., defensive violence you route through the state is still violence, violence isn&#8217;t inherently wrong, voluntarists are debarred crime syndicate jury trials, non-statists may not &#8220;file criminal charges&#8221;, written order not required in this case, dave and sam picked shaky ground, FK participants &mdash; not dave in this case &mdash; are too often a joke when confronting court thugs, &#8220;courtesy&#8221; isn&#8217;t worth a fuck when you&#8217;re an imprecise joke, many FK participants pretend to advocate liberty while still thoroughly state-brainwashed).</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Toughguy</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80246</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Toughguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You tell &#039;em Hardman! 

These foolish collectivist posers are just a bunch of statist dullards who haven&#039;t the tiniest clue what liberty is all about. 

It&#039;s about being able to post on sites like this without having to act in a civil manner, telling everyone they&#039;re doing it wrong and ripping into them as rudely as possible if they disagree!

You shouldn&#039;t be so damn sociable with them though, dude. Instead of pussyfooting around with &#039;em, just post a string of invectives at these mental deficients and leave it at that. It&#039;s more efficient and probably just as effective as the long diatribes.

Screw courtesy, tact and polite discussion! Keep it raw and real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You tell &#8216;em Hardman! </p>
<p>These foolish collectivist posers are just a bunch of statist dullards who haven&#8217;t the tiniest clue what liberty is all about. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about being able to post on sites like this without having to act in a civil manner, telling everyone they&#8217;re doing it wrong and ripping into them as rudely as possible if they disagree!</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t be so damn sociable with them though, dude. Instead of pussyfooting around with &#8216;em, just post a string of invectives at these mental deficients and leave it at that. It&#8217;s more efficient and probably just as effective as the long diatribes.</p>
<p>Screw courtesy, tact and polite discussion! Keep it raw and real.</p>
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		<title>By: charley hardman</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80245</link>
		<dc:creator>charley hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’ve relegated yourself to nothing more than troll status.&lt;/blockquote&gt;and there it is, the final step in your abject evasion: the T word &#8212; ultimate internet coward maneuver &lt;em&gt;from someone decrying fallacious ad hominem&lt;/em&gt;. and, of course, a pile of collectivist ninny talk. next stop, pluralis majestatis.

ron paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You’ve relegated yourself to nothing more than troll status.</p></blockquote>
<p>and there it is, the final step in your abject evasion: the T word &mdash; ultimate internet coward maneuver <em>from someone decrying fallacious ad hominem</em>. and, of course, a pile of collectivist ninny talk. next stop, pluralis majestatis.</p>
<p>ron paul!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeus</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80244</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you don’t like me. you don’t like that i insult you and others. got it. &lt;i&gt;it’s irrelevant to my argument.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Glad you got the first part. What you still fail to understand, however, is that &lt;i&gt;because you are such an immense douchebag&lt;/i&gt; no one gives a shit what your argument is and no one wants anything to do with you. You&#039;ve relegated yourself to nothing more than troll status.

Here&#039;s a metaphor for your insult-laden posts and acidic personality: It&#039;s like offering us bottles of a vintage wine that you swear up and down is the cat&#039;s meow... after soaking the bottles in raw sewage. 

Thanks for the thought, but I think I&#039;ll pass on that offer. Drink it in good health, though. It&#039;s all yours.

Hope you like to drink alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you don’t like me. you don’t like that i insult you and others. got it. <i>it’s irrelevant to my argument.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Glad you got the first part. What you still fail to understand, however, is that <i>because you are such an immense douchebag</i> no one gives a shit what your argument is and no one wants anything to do with you. You&#8217;ve relegated yourself to nothing more than troll status.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a metaphor for your insult-laden posts and acidic personality: It&#8217;s like offering us bottles of a vintage wine that you swear up and down is the cat&#8217;s meow&#8230; after soaking the bottles in raw sewage. </p>
<p>Thanks for the thought, but I think I&#8217;ll pass on that offer. Drink it in good health, though. It&#8217;s all yours.</p>
<p>Hope you like to drink alone.</p>
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		<title>By: charley hardman</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/06/23/dave-ridley-guilty-at-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-80243</link>
		<dc:creator>charley hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s possible, Charley, that people might be more inclined to listen to your arguments if you could refrain from the constant stream of acidic insults that you spew forth in nearly every post.&lt;/blockquote&gt;wow. earthshaking. check your premise, sherlock.&lt;blockquote&gt;If you’re as principled and as logical as you allege, the strength of your argument should be enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;and the insult is irrelevant &#8212; a point your dumb ass apparently can&#039;t figure out, even with warning.

speaking of bafflement, i do find it nearly unbelievable that posers so often &lt;a href=&quot;http://saltypig.com/blog/2007/10/retards-name-calling-is-irrelevant.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;decry insult&lt;/a&gt; in the same post where they give it the ol&#039; college try. according to you i have proven myself &quot;a cruel and inhuman douchebag spouting epithets like so much verbal diarrhea&quot;. okay. is insult bad or isn&#039;t it?

when it&#039;s used to evade an opponent&#039;s argument, as you do habitually, it can be argued logically that it&#039;s deficient. heal yourself, butt stupid. you don&#039;t get a pass because you&#039;re bitching about me insulting. you don&#039;t get a pass because your kind is normally too pussified and dishonest to insult directly and openly, opting instead for insult via sentence as if that somehow makes it better. wordplay? wake up.

listen closely, dumbfucks: insult is irrelevant to an argument. the very reason morons like you presume wrongly that insult is necessarily fallacious is precisely why it&#039;s ignorable in logic analysis. your doof prancing doesn&#039;t change this truth.

you don&#039;t like me. you don&#039;t like that i insult you and others. got it. &lt;em&gt;it&#039;s irrelevant to my argument&lt;/em&gt;. you may assert in honesty that it&#039;s unnecessary and slows down the already slow, but you may not assert in honesty that it hinders an argument. i will not stop insulting fools because the fools don&#039;t like it and invent all manner of strained disingenuous disguises for protest. their inordinate protests point to their disease. reliably.&lt;blockquote&gt;seeing is believing&lt;/blockquote&gt;all that after i&#039;ve repeatedly told you and the other FK fools to assume i&#039;m, at best, a run-of-the-mill statist.&lt;blockquote&gt;if the result of becoming such a “paragon of principle” as yourself means also becoming&lt;/blockquote&gt;logic. check it. don&#039;t be conveniently/rhetorically absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s possible, Charley, that people might be more inclined to listen to your arguments if you could refrain from the constant stream of acidic insults that you spew forth in nearly every post.</p></blockquote>
<p>wow. earthshaking. check your premise, sherlock.<br />
<blockquote>If you’re as principled and as logical as you allege, the strength of your argument should be enough.</p></blockquote>
<p>and the insult is irrelevant &mdash; a point your dumb ass apparently can&#8217;t figure out, even with warning.</p>
<p>speaking of bafflement, i do find it nearly unbelievable that posers so often <a href="http://saltypig.com/blog/2007/10/retards-name-calling-is-irrelevant.htm" rel="nofollow">decry insult</a> in the same post where they give it the ol&#8217; college try. according to you i have proven myself &#8220;a cruel and inhuman douchebag spouting epithets like so much verbal diarrhea&#8221;. okay. is insult bad or isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>when it&#8217;s used to evade an opponent&#8217;s argument, as you do habitually, it can be argued logically that it&#8217;s deficient. heal yourself, butt stupid. you don&#8217;t get a pass because you&#8217;re bitching about me insulting. you don&#8217;t get a pass because your kind is normally too pussified and dishonest to insult directly and openly, opting instead for insult via sentence as if that somehow makes it better. wordplay? wake up.</p>
<p>listen closely, dumbfucks: insult is irrelevant to an argument. the very reason morons like you presume wrongly that insult is necessarily fallacious is precisely why it&#8217;s ignorable in logic analysis. your doof prancing doesn&#8217;t change this truth.</p>
<p>you don&#8217;t like me. you don&#8217;t like that i insult you and others. got it. <em>it&#8217;s irrelevant to my argument</em>. you may assert in honesty that it&#8217;s unnecessary and slows down the already slow, but you may not assert in honesty that it hinders an argument. i will not stop insulting fools because the fools don&#8217;t like it and invent all manner of strained disingenuous disguises for protest. their inordinate protests point to their disease. reliably.<br />
<blockquote>seeing is believing</p></blockquote>
<p>all that after i&#8217;ve repeatedly told you and the other FK fools to assume i&#8217;m, at best, a run-of-the-mill statist.<br />
<blockquote>if the result of becoming such a “paragon of principle” as yourself means also becoming</p></blockquote>
<p>logic. check it. don&#8217;t be conveniently/rhetorically absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible, Charley, that people might be more inclined to listen to your arguments if you could refrain from the constant stream of acidic insults that you spew forth in nearly every post.

If you&#039;re as principled and as logical as you allege, the strength of your argument should be enough. 

If, for one second, I believed you really were the shining beacon on the hill for liberty and the peak of perfection in principles, I&#039;d have to take pause and reconsider the entire pro-liberty philosophy because if the result of becoming such a &quot;paragon of principle&quot; as yourself means also becoming a cruel and inhuman douchebag spouting epithets like so much verbal diarrhea and imagining it&#039;s clever wordplay, something must be horribly broken.

While you have certainly proven to be the latter in your many posts, I have been fortunate enough to see no evidence that you are the former... and seeing is believing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible, Charley, that people might be more inclined to listen to your arguments if you could refrain from the constant stream of acidic insults that you spew forth in nearly every post.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re as principled and as logical as you allege, the strength of your argument should be enough. </p>
<p>If, for one second, I believed you really were the shining beacon on the hill for liberty and the peak of perfection in principles, I&#8217;d have to take pause and reconsider the entire pro-liberty philosophy because if the result of becoming such a &#8220;paragon of principle&#8221; as yourself means also becoming a cruel and inhuman douchebag spouting epithets like so much verbal diarrhea and imagining it&#8217;s clever wordplay, something must be horribly broken.</p>
<p>While you have certainly proven to be the latter in your many posts, I have been fortunate enough to see no evidence that you are the former&#8230; and seeing is believing.</p>
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