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	<title>Comments on: An All-Star &#8220;Talkback&#8221; 2009-07-25</title>
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		<title>By: fester</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/07/26/an-all-star-talkback-2009-07-25/comment-page-1/#comment-81310</link>
		<dc:creator>fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of private employees are filmed on a daily basis and they manage to get the job done. Almost any retail job you are filmed all day, any job in a bank, any job at a place like an amusement park, or casino, etc. If you are only on the phone and do some kind of customer service job you are likely to have your phone calls recorded. Even bureaucrats often film themselves, the police have cameras in their dash, courtrooms often have cameras filming, etc. I think that it is a red herring to say that people cannot work while being filmed. I understand that there is a slight difference between cameras installed in fixed position and those that are carried by a person, but I don&#039;t really see why a person cannot do their job while under the scrutiny of a camera, unless they are doing something wrong or are incompetent and don&#039;t want to be exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of private employees are filmed on a daily basis and they manage to get the job done. Almost any retail job you are filmed all day, any job in a bank, any job at a place like an amusement park, or casino, etc. If you are only on the phone and do some kind of customer service job you are likely to have your phone calls recorded. Even bureaucrats often film themselves, the police have cameras in their dash, courtrooms often have cameras filming, etc. I think that it is a red herring to say that people cannot work while being filmed. I understand that there is a slight difference between cameras installed in fixed position and those that are carried by a person, but I don&#8217;t really see why a person cannot do their job while under the scrutiny of a camera, unless they are doing something wrong or are incompetent and don&#8217;t want to be exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Winnipeg</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/07/26/an-all-star-talkback-2009-07-25/comment-page-1/#comment-81217</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Winnipeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can hear the cognitive dissodence in their voices, espeically Chynthia when she says she doesn&#039;t want to talk about it. People get very uncomfortable when faced with the contradictions in their own logic.

I hope to join you in a few years folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hear the cognitive dissodence in their voices, espeically Chynthia when she says she doesn&#8217;t want to talk about it. People get very uncomfortable when faced with the contradictions in their own logic.</p>
<p>I hope to join you in a few years folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/07/26/an-all-star-talkback-2009-07-25/comment-page-1/#comment-81199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh-hyuk!  I&#039;m just a dumb hick from Floriduh!

Actually, in case you weren&#039;t paying attention, I was calling to a respond to a question that one of the callers asked.  I&#039;ve done that in the past, and Cynthia hasn&#039;t had a problem with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-hyuk!  I&#8217;m just a dumb hick from Floriduh!</p>
<p>Actually, in case you weren&#8217;t paying attention, I was calling to a respond to a question that one of the callers asked.  I&#8217;ve done that in the past, and Cynthia hasn&#8217;t had a problem with it.</p>
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		<title>By: charley hardman</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/07/26/an-all-star-talkback-2009-07-25/comment-page-1/#comment-81189</link>
		<dc:creator>charley hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess Ian and Mark didn’t know about that the hosts didn’t want people to call in more than once in the same show.&lt;/blockquote&gt;please. pay attention.&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d be surprised if Ian or Mark did that again, after they know how the hosts feel about the situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;ian knew and did do it again.&lt;blockquote&gt;For example, they didn’t call people names or act like people were below them, like even the hosts did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;it isn&#039;t difficult for a voluntarist call to be better than a statist call. the goal should be to trounce them tightly and efficiently. most of them screwed up by not being able to cite &quot;law&quot;, which is what the goon/robot hosts pretend to honor.

despite the ignorant delusions of so many wannabe-logicians, there is nothing inherently wrong with calling people names. as already noted, most who decry the practice assume it even when decrying; they appear to consider their stick-up-ass approach insulation from what they denounce.

as for acting as though others are below him, ian does so with that phony FM-DJ voice every time he opens his idjit mouth. it&#039;s precisely why he and others pull that dishonest character shtick (no balls, and ashamed of their real voices).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess Ian and Mark didn’t know about that the hosts didn’t want people to call in more than once in the same show.</p></blockquote>
<p>please. pay attention.<br />
<blockquote>I’d be surprised if Ian or Mark did that again, after they know how the hosts feel about the situation.</p></blockquote>
<p>ian knew and did do it again.<br />
<blockquote>For example, they didn’t call people names or act like people were below them, like even the hosts did.</p></blockquote>
<p>it isn&#8217;t difficult for a voluntarist call to be better than a statist call. the goal should be to trounce them tightly and efficiently. most of them screwed up by not being able to cite &#8220;law&#8221;, which is what the goon/robot hosts pretend to honor.</p>
<p>despite the ignorant delusions of so many wannabe-logicians, there is nothing inherently wrong with calling people names. as already noted, most who decry the practice assume it even when decrying; they appear to consider their stick-up-ass approach insulation from what they denounce.</p>
<p>as for acting as though others are below him, ian does so with that phony FM-DJ voice every time he opens his idjit mouth. it&#8217;s precisely why he and others pull that dishonest character shtick (no balls, and ashamed of their real voices).</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Ian and Mark didn&#039;t know about that the hosts didn&#039;t want people to call in more than once in the same show.  I&#039;d be surprised if Ian or Mark did that again, after they know how the hosts feel about the situation.

Otherwise, it seemed like their calls were better then some of the other calls.  For example, they didn&#039;t call people names or act like people were below them, like even the hosts did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Ian and Mark didn&#8217;t know about that the hosts didn&#8217;t want people to call in more than once in the same show.  I&#8217;d be surprised if Ian or Mark did that again, after they know how the hosts feel about the situation.</p>
<p>Otherwise, it seemed like their calls were better then some of the other calls.  For example, they didn&#8217;t call people names or act like people were below them, like even the hosts did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statist pukes are disgusting. &quot;I don&#039;t care what the law is...&quot; Why do people tolerate being lorded over by these scumbags?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statist pukes are disgusting. &#8220;I don&#8217;t care what the law is&#8230;&#8221; Why do people tolerate being lorded over by these scumbags?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby superb questioning. I can&#039;t say that I expected much of a reply however.


&lt;i&gt;Y&#039;know there are
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pirates and emperors&lt;/a&gt; but they&#039;re really the same thing
Even the ones who say they just wanna let freedom ring.
Well they do it big
or they do it small
But only one goes down when they break the law
While the Big One claims &quot;This really don&#039;t apply to me&quot;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/ericchenry/pir_lyrics.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby superb questioning. I can&#8217;t say that I expected much of a reply however.</p>
<p><i>Y&#8217;know there are<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8" rel="nofollow">pirates and emperors</a> but they&#8217;re really the same thing<br />
Even the ones who say they just wanna let freedom ring.<br />
Well they do it big<br />
or they do it small<br />
But only one goes down when they break the law<br />
While the Big One claims &#8220;This really don&#8217;t apply to me&#8221;</i> <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/ericchenry/pir_lyrics.html" rel="nofollow">&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think activists should defuse Cynthia&#039;s red herring argument by saying they&#039;d be happy not to film any private citizen at a government office who asks not to be.

It&#039;s all about government secrecy and obstinacy. We know it, they know it, they just have to make excuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think activists should defuse Cynthia&#8217;s red herring argument by saying they&#8217;d be happy not to film any private citizen at a government office who asks not to be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about government secrecy and obstinacy. We know it, they know it, they just have to make excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Areté Praxis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Areté Praxis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep Bile, straight heard it from the horse&#039;s mouth herself (not that she&#039;s an actual horse by any means). Cynthia doesn&#039;t care what the law says, she even said it herself.

Because when you do business at the barrel of a gun, you don&#039;t have to care about any laws at all because your sovereign immunity keeps you from being held accountable. Perhaps Mayor Dale and Cynthia should join the private sector and do business on a voluntary basis like normal peaceful people do, unlike psychopaths who do business at the barrel of a gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep Bile, straight heard it from the horse&#8217;s mouth herself (not that she&#8217;s an actual horse by any means). Cynthia doesn&#8217;t care what the law says, she even said it herself.</p>
<p>Because when you do business at the barrel of a gun, you don&#8217;t have to care about any laws at all because your sovereign immunity keeps you from being held accountable. Perhaps Mayor Dale and Cynthia should join the private sector and do business on a voluntary basis like normal peaceful people do, unlike psychopaths who do business at the barrel of a gun.</p>
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		<title>By: charley hardman</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/07/26/an-all-star-talkback-2009-07-25/comment-page-1/#comment-81137</link>
		<dc:creator>charley hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ian titles this &quot;All-Star&quot; (WTF) and &lt;em&gt;again&lt;/em&gt; calls the show twice in one episode &#8212; an &#252;ber-DBag move properly squashed when attempted later by hyper-breathless mark. he speaks on the radio regularly? these are all-stars? ian&#039;s &quot;sorry to call a second time&quot;? right.

the argument of most anti-state callers was especially weak in this clip (almost as bad as the statists). if you&#039;re going to call the show and assert that allowing taping in city offices is required by &quot;law&quot;, be able to cite/state the &quot;law&quot;. ian&#039;s distortion of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/departments/police/mission-statement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;keene badged criminal &quot;ethics&quot; code&lt;/a&gt; is an abomination.

some FK adherents have emphasized, usually wrongly, the importance of PR, yet this show indicates they suck at PR. a couple of points by the otherwise psycho-stupid statists nail the FK act well enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ian titles this &#8220;All-Star&#8221; (WTF) and <em>again</em> calls the show twice in one episode &mdash; an &uuml;ber-DBag move properly squashed when attempted later by hyper-breathless mark. he speaks on the radio regularly? these are all-stars? ian&#8217;s &#8220;sorry to call a second time&#8221;? right.</p>
<p>the argument of most anti-state callers was especially weak in this clip (almost as bad as the statists). if you&#8217;re going to call the show and assert that allowing taping in city offices is required by &#8220;law&#8221;, be able to cite/state the &#8220;law&#8221;. ian&#8217;s distortion of the <a href="http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/departments/police/mission-statement" rel="nofollow">keene badged criminal &#8220;ethics&#8221; code</a> is an abomination.</p>
<p>some FK adherents have emphasized, usually wrongly, the importance of PR, yet this show indicates they suck at PR. a couple of points by the otherwise psycho-stupid statists nail the FK act well enough.</p>
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