Simply stop if the people who are involved don’t want to be taped. If something happens, you can’t say that you didn’t offer them protection, hindsight is often 20/20. The next time it happens, they won’t be so quick to tell you to go away and chances are, they will be saying things to their friends like, “Wow, I wish I hadn’t told them to go away.”

all that nonsense is based on the false premise that the taping is solely for the protection of direct victims of an incident.

I know that an informational flyer of some type that could be given to those who have been stopped was being considered. Perhaps included something saying that any video tape that is taken will not be posted/used AT ALL *unless* police misconduct happens. Also, perhaps consider destroying video tape after a certain amount of time if it does not contain police misconduct – which would avoid any issue of having the police attempt to use the video against whoever had been stopped.

Simply stop if the people who are involved don’t want to be taped. If something happens, you can’t say that you didn’t offer them protection, hindsight is often 20/20. The next time it happens, they won’t be so quick to tell you to go away and chances are, they will be saying things to their friends like, “Wow, I wish I hadn’t told them to go away.”

Getting the word out in Keene about CopWatch would seem like the most straightforward way of informing the public about what you’re attempting to do. If I’m not mistaken, Keene is a pretty small town, yes?

*Door to door flyering
*Flyers up at coffee shops, laundry mats
*Hand out flyers outside of movie theaters/sports games/malls/concerts – etc.
*Take up a donation for a small ad in whatever free publication you have there that advertises local events, restaurants and whatnot

To Andrew,
It’s cool. I understand the reason why you guys do what you do. I just hope you guys don’t loose sight on why you’re doing it.

I was the person with the video camera. I apologize for not responding until now, but I’ve been away at work for 3 days.

First let me apologize for not being able to deescalate the situation, and offer my condolences to your friend who was arrested.

I’m glad that you took the effort to come to FK and share your thoughts. In my defense, I did not get the opportunity to ask any of you if it was ok if I filmed before the situation escalated. It was nearly impossible to get a word out. I understand that you were in an agitated state, and that’s why I’m not offended at all by you yelling at me. I only approached the vehicle after I had heard the girl in back say that it was ok to record, and when you asked me to stop filming, I had also heard your friend tell me to stay, so I stopped filming you and only you. There were a lot of people yelling/talking to me at once and I was trying to wait for a consensus from you and the other passengers, but the cop distracted me from my goal. I was only there trying to help, and I’m sorry I failed.

I don’t feel that I did anything wrong. According to the law, I was in the right. I couldn’t care less what the law says about recording on so called “public property,” but I do care about what is morally right. That is why I stopped filming you when you asked, but it is also why I kept filming the cop and your friends when they asked me to stay.

I don’t have a lot of time to constantly check this comment section, but I will respond again to you if you would like me to.

Thanks

I don’t think that’s an axiom of libertarianism.

shaking head and grimacing.

I consider myself a libertarian but I don’t think people have natural rights. Natural rights are as real as the social contract. It’s all made up, by philosophers.

bringing up yet another stumbling block for the easily confused. there needn’t be a single crumb of evidence for natural rights. they are not a logically provable factor. sheen aside, natural rights is simply the least assailable doctrine, by far — the most pristine foundation of vapor. a philosophy by default.

for if one disputes (not merely professes ignorance of) natural rights — that all humans are created equal with regard to rights — he therefore asserts that one human has more rights than another. (in other words, you are not a libertarian if you dispute the axiom.) this assertion goes beyond the unprovability of natural rights, as follows:

natural rights
- are humans created equal with regard to rights?
yes.

social “contract” (ha!) or other disputation of natural rights
- are humans created equal with regard to rights?
no.
- which humans are superior, and why?

any theory other than natural rights requires the answering of “which humans”. the doctrine of natural rights suffers least from such arbitrary foundation, for the question cannot even exist when all humans are in the same rights class. no selection.

such analysis is impossible for the average lunkhead, but there’s hope; the analysis is usually unnecessary. forget attempting to prove the unprovable, and instead ask those interested whether they believe “all humans are created equal with regard to rights”. voluntarism is required logically if they assent to that premise. getting people to understand rights and downstream logic is the barrier, especially when their bread and butter depends upon scoundrelly behavior, but debating natural rights is usually a waste given that most accept the premise. it’s always a waste to pretend that natural rights may or must be proved.

Don’t pay the hecklers any attention. They are just random internet people.

one for the archives.

For future reference, passengers don’t need to speak to the police. Drivers need only provide license and registration. Remember to ask questions instead of answering them. Or, don’t say anything at all if you aren’t comfortable asking questions like, “Am I free to go?”.

The more you tell a cop, the more likely you are to get arrested for something.

For more, look for the Antiterrorist on YouTube, and good luck out there!

Welcome to the comments section of the blog. Bickering seems to be the point of them, generally. Don’t pay the hecklers any attention. They are just random internet people.

I’m glad the people who matter in this case, you and the copwatchers, were able to use this blog to come to a mutual understanding and appreciation!

Welcome to the Free Keene blog, ANGRY.

Question: Did the cops recognize your friend or did he provide ID?