Free Keene

Comment by Lpviper

September 14, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

Caged for violating the tenets of an illogical concept. Lovely.

Comment by AnarchoJesse

September 14, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

Hey ho, here I go!

Comment by The lord

September 14, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

This is interesting, taking non-cooperation to its logical conclusion. I hope for the best Jesse and continue to live free without fears.

Comment by jzacker

September 14, 2009 @ 4:25 pm

its a 2-day jail stint? He could just go in and sleep for 2 days. that would be funny. He should bring in sun tan lotion and a beach ball and pretend its a 2-day vacation.

Comment by thinkliberty

September 14, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

You are not going to turn yourself in to be caged?!

What has the world come to when liberty lovers stop volunteering to be put in a cage.

The politicians and boot-lickers hate it when you ignore their violent threats.

Comment by BigMike

September 14, 2009 @ 5:03 pm

Way to take peaceful non-cooperation to the next level Jesse. Hopefully others will be motivated by these actions of yours and continue the trend in the future.

Comment by Jeff

September 14, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

Way to go Jesse!

Comment by GRAFFITI

September 14, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

First time not showing up for federal court was Russell Kanning who was then taken by the U.S. Marshals.

Still a fugitive, on an unrelated charge, as far as NH is concerned

Comment by abbie

September 14, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

Ha, he said you’d better see the judge.
Wish you the best, and congrats for being, I guess, the first person with better things to do than go to jail.

Comment by thinkliberty

September 14, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

Jesse is the first activist that I know of to not turn themselves in to be caged voluntarily. After not doing anything wrong. (My guess is a dirty cop will kidnap Jesse for money and then force him in to a cage at gun point.)

The next actvist would have to be like Russell and ignore their court date completely to top this act of civil disobedience. (Like Graffiti said.)

Jesse has brass balls.

Comment by wow

September 14, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

its so painful watching people fail

Comment by iawai

September 14, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

Maybe a nice Keene Peace Officer will suggest to his superior that he spend the $100 to satisfy the court’s demand instead of the cost to send an armed squad car to taxi Jesse to the cage and the following incarceration?

Or will they not only gladly follow orders and inflict pain, but insist still that it is Jesse wasting taxpayer’s money?

Comment by Lpviper

September 14, 2009 @ 10:36 pm

The answer is ‘B’

Comment by J. Ray

September 14, 2009 @ 11:02 pm

I pray to Yatver that I get to do the beach ball vacation schtick before anyone else.

Comment by jzacker

September 15, 2009 @ 8:17 am

Jesse should probably resolve this issue. Failure to report for a sentence (without a good reason or excuse) is considered ‘Escape’. I think this is the correct RSA:

Section 651:24

651:24 Failure to Report Deemed Escape. – Any person released under RSA 651:19 or RSA 651:19-a, or ordered confined under RSA 651:20 or 21 who willfully fails to report as ordered shall be deemed to have escaped from the institution to which he has been sentenced and upon conviction shall be subject to the punishment provided for escape therefrom.

Escape (without violence) is a class ‘B’ felony (see RSA 642:6).

I think we shouldn’t take this situation so lightly. A felony charge is bad news. Although I doubt a judge would be harsh given the circumstances, a jerky prosecutor could do a lot of damage.

Comment by nick

September 15, 2009 @ 8:51 am

Luckily, Jesse was not “released under RSA 651:19 or RSA 651:19-a, or ordered confined under RSA 651:20 or 21″

So he does not meet the requirements of the escape RSA you cited.

Comment by AnarchoJesse

September 15, 2009 @ 9:12 am

Lucky me.

Comment by jzacker

September 15, 2009 @ 10:39 am

@Nick
Yea you’re probably right. Failure to report to JAIL might be a contempt charge though. Warrants will be issued, blah blah blah. And I’m sure it results in more jail time.

I couldn’t find the NH statute, but in Wisconsin, I found that Failure to Report to Jail is a misdemeanor if the sentence is under 10 days, and a felony if over 10 days. Just something to be aware of I think.

Comment by Ian

September 15, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

It may be “bail jumping”.

Comment by Pete Eyre

September 15, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

Good for you Jesse.

If they do kidnap you and force you into their cage, you should use it as an opportunity to reach out to others in/around your cage. Rather than jails and prisons being breeding grounds for “criminal” behavior they can be seen as recruiting opportunities for those of us advocating for the voluntary society.

Comment by adam.m.mueller

September 15, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

Is there a number we can call to state we don’t want people caged for these ‘crimes’? I also wish everyone would take the same stance with the state. Just stop enabling it and smoke a bowl. Best plan I have heard yet.

Comment by Anton Lee

September 15, 2009 @ 3:12 pm

I agree with Adam. What was it laundry day Jesse?

Comment by Jamestheantipatriot

September 16, 2009 @ 12:22 am

Way to stick it to em Jesse. Anyone who can’t see how arbitrary these so-called laws and punishments are is deaf, dumb, blind or a combination of all those.

Comment by Peacemaker

September 16, 2009 @ 9:28 am

Good for everyone Jesse that you’re not playing along with this violent gang.

Comment by Brad

September 21, 2009 @ 8:54 pm

IN COURT:

1. ask the officer:
* “who was injured?”
* “were you injured?”
2. If no injury is shown, then the judge is to be
informed that the officer does not have standing
to bring charges against the defendant.

3. If that fails; ask the (officer) revenuer:
* “did you write the complaint?”
* “was this complaint perfect?”
* “how many elements are there to a perfect
complaint?”
* at this point the prosecuting attorney will
object, as the revenuer is not an expert in
complaints;
* the defendant then impeaches the witness as
he is not an expert witness, and his
testimony is questionable

4. failing that:
* ask the judge: “who do you represent in these
proceedings?”
* he will indicate “the state”
* ask the judge: “If you represent the state, as
you have admitted, does that not make you
party to the complaint against the defendant?”
* The defendant then demands that the judge
recuse himself from the proceedings, as it is
highly improper for the judge to sit in
judgment on a case to which he is party.

IN THAT ORDER.

Comment by Lpviper

September 21, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

That’s very interesting. Has anyone an example of this method in action, or at least a somewhat verifiable anecdote? I am interested in the results of this kind of approach

Comment by BigMike

September 22, 2009 @ 9:53 am

This is similar to Marc Steven’s way to defend in court. It’s interesting to see their response and makes the judge, prosecutor and witness look like idiots but ultimately it would only get the charges dismissed if they were tired of dealing with you. It’s more of an “expose the system for what it is” than a valid legal defense.

The first and second issue refer to whether or not a crime can be considered an offense without an injured party. In NH, it can, as stated in the opening pages of the NH rules of criminal procedure. It’s a fun moral argument to make but the court doesn’t want to hear moral arguments.

Part 3 refers to the essential elements of the charges against you needed to obtain a conviction. While what was stated above refers to a perfect complaint or the elements of the complaint sounds good, it’s not the correct way to word the question. You would want to ask about the charges and what elements need to be present in order for those charges to apply. Example, if the complaint was for breach of contract, the 3 elements necessary would be 1)the existence of an enforceable contract, 2)acts of the defendant that constitute the breach and 3)damages to the plaintiff because of the breach. If the cop on the stand didn’t know the elements to the cause of action they were bringing against you, it’s possible you would succeed in impeaching the witness but ultimately the courts do what they want.

While point 4 makes sense, it likely won’t happen either. I plan on making this argument when…you’ll have to wait for the video:)

Again all of these points made in the above post are excellent for exposing the system for the extortion racket that our present court system is, and it’s possible one could overturn a conviction on appeal if enough of their shenanigans are documented.

Then again, the appellate court is part of the same racket.

LPViper, read Adventures in Legal Land.

Comment by Brad

September 23, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

Smiles;

This set of argumentation was put to a friend who is a judge (relinquishing that post soon).

He said; those are “good” arguments. I have nothing else to say on the subject.

Read

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6358032/AntiGovernment-Movement-GuidebookLaw-Handbook

useful read by Pro Tyranny sources.

It is my estimation that

1. the “free state” movement is premature
2. A FREE COUNTY is what we need, and expand from there.

Comment by Lpviper

September 23, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

I agree. Liberty begins at sheriff. But it would be difficult to get folks excited about the ‘Free Cheshire County Project’ or some such.

Given that, a free state movement was a good choice

Comment by Alex FM

October 2, 2009 @ 11:08 pm

Good luck, Jesse.

In my opinion, you have been doing a good job taking the necessary jabs at government, and usually coming out reasonably unscathed.

This one might prove to be a bit more challenging, but only time will tell. Most likely, they won’t overreact to this. They’ll probably try to verbally admonish you for non compliance, and then most likely just give you a slap on the wrist.

I doubt they’ll make any concerted effort whatsoever to even bother coming after you, so I don’t think you have to be looking over your shoulder every minute of every day. I would stay away from driving cars though (even if you don’t have one). Traffic ticket stops is usually when they bag people.