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	<title>Comments on: AnarchoJesse Ordered to Jail for Illegal Gardening</title>
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		<title>By: Alex FM</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/09/14/anarchojesse-ordered-to-jail-for-illegal-gardening/comment-page-1/#comment-83040</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, Jesse. 
 
In my opinion, you have been doing a good job taking the necessary jabs at government, and usually coming out reasonably unscathed.    
 
This one might prove to be a bit more challenging, but only time will tell.  Most likely, they won&#039;t overreact to this. They&#039;ll probably try to verbally admonish you for non compliance, and then most likely just give you a slap on the wrist. 
 
I doubt they&#039;ll make any concerted effort whatsoever to even bother coming after you, so I don&#039;t think you have to be looking over your shoulder every minute of every day.  I would stay away from driving cars though (even if you don&#039;t have one).  Traffic ticket stops is usually when they bag people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Jesse.</p>
<p>In my opinion, you have been doing a good job taking the necessary jabs at government, and usually coming out reasonably unscathed.   </p>
<p>This one might prove to be a bit more challenging, but only time will tell.  Most likely, they won&#039;t overreact to this. They&#039;ll probably try to verbally admonish you for non compliance, and then most likely just give you a slap on the wrist.</p>
<p>I doubt they&#039;ll make any concerted effort whatsoever to even bother coming after you, so I don&#039;t think you have to be looking over your shoulder every minute of every day.  I would stay away from driving cars though (even if you don&#039;t have one).  Traffic ticket stops is usually when they bag people.</p>
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		<title>By: Lpviper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lpviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Liberty begins at sheriff.  But it would be difficult to get folks excited about the &#039;Free Cheshire County Project&#039; or some such. 
 
Given that, a free state movement was a good choice </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Liberty begins at sheriff.  But it would be difficult to get folks excited about the &#039;Free Cheshire County Project&#039; or some such.</p>
<p>Given that, a free state movement was a good choice</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smiles; 
 
This set of argumentation was put to a friend who is a judge (relinquishing that post soon). 
 
He said; those are &quot;good&quot; arguments.  I have nothing else to say on the subject. 
 
Read  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/6358032/AntiGovernment-Movement-GuidebookLaw-Handbook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scribd.com/doc/6358032/AntiGovernment-...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
useful read by Pro Tyranny sources. 
 
It is my estimation that  
 
1. the &quot;free state&quot; movement is premature 
2. A FREE COUNTY is what we need, and expand from there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiles;</p>
<p>This set of argumentation was put to a friend who is a judge (relinquishing that post soon).</p>
<p>He said; those are &quot;good&quot; arguments.  I have nothing else to say on the subject.</p>
<p>Read </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/6358032/AntiGovernment-Movement-GuidebookLaw-Handbook" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/6358032/AntiGovernment-&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>useful read by Pro Tyranny sources.</p>
<p>It is my estimation that </p>
<p>1. the &quot;free state&quot; movement is premature</p>
<p>2. A FREE COUNTY is what we need, and expand from there.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is similar to Marc Steven&#039;s way to defend in court. It&#039;s interesting to see their response and makes the judge, prosecutor and witness look like idiots but ultimately it would only get the charges dismissed if they were tired of dealing with you. It&#039;s more of an &quot;expose the system for what it is&quot; than a valid legal defense. 
 
The first and second issue refer to whether or not a crime can be considered an offense without an injured party. In NH, it can, as stated in the opening pages of the NH rules of criminal procedure. It&#039;s a fun moral argument to make but the court doesn&#039;t want to hear moral arguments. 
 
Part 3 refers to the essential elements of the charges against you needed to obtain a conviction. While what was stated above refers to a perfect complaint or the elements of the complaint sounds good, it&#039;s not the correct way to word the question. You would want to ask about the charges and what elements need to be present in order for those charges to apply. Example, if the complaint was for breach of contract, the 3 elements necessary would be 1)the existence of an enforceable contract, 2)acts of the defendant that constitute the breach and 3)damages to the plaintiff because of the breach. If the cop on the stand didn&#039;t know the elements to the cause of action they were bringing against you, it&#039;s possible you would succeed in impeaching the witness but ultimately the courts do what they want. 
 
While point 4 makes sense, it likely won&#039;t happen either. I plan on making this argument when...you&#039;ll have to wait for the video:) 
 
Again all of these points made in the above post are excellent for exposing the system for the extortion racket that our present court system is, and it&#039;s possible one could overturn a conviction on appeal if enough of their shenanigans are documented.  
 
Then again, the appellate court is part of the same racket. 
 
LPViper, read Adventures in Legal Land. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is similar to Marc Steven&#039;s way to defend in court. It&#039;s interesting to see their response and makes the judge, prosecutor and witness look like idiots but ultimately it would only get the charges dismissed if they were tired of dealing with you. It&#039;s more of an &quot;expose the system for what it is&quot; than a valid legal defense.</p>
<p>The first and second issue refer to whether or not a crime can be considered an offense without an injured party. In NH, it can, as stated in the opening pages of the NH rules of criminal procedure. It&#039;s a fun moral argument to make but the court doesn&#039;t want to hear moral arguments.</p>
<p>Part 3 refers to the essential elements of the charges against you needed to obtain a conviction. While what was stated above refers to a perfect complaint or the elements of the complaint sounds good, it&#039;s not the correct way to word the question. You would want to ask about the charges and what elements need to be present in order for those charges to apply. Example, if the complaint was for breach of contract, the 3 elements necessary would be 1)the existence of an enforceable contract, 2)acts of the defendant that constitute the breach and 3)damages to the plaintiff because of the breach. If the cop on the stand didn&#039;t know the elements to the cause of action they were bringing against you, it&#039;s possible you would succeed in impeaching the witness but ultimately the courts do what they want.</p>
<p>While point 4 makes sense, it likely won&#039;t happen either. I plan on making this argument when&#8230;you&#039;ll have to wait for the video:)</p>
<p>Again all of these points made in the above post are excellent for exposing the system for the extortion racket that our present court system is, and it&#039;s possible one could overturn a conviction on appeal if enough of their shenanigans are documented. </p>
<p>Then again, the appellate court is part of the same racket.</p>
<p>LPViper, read Adventures in Legal Land.</p>
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		<title>By: Lpviper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lpviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting.  Has anyone an example of this method in action, or at least a somewhat verifiable anecdote?  I am interested in the results of this kind of approach </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s very interesting.  Has anyone an example of this method in action, or at least a somewhat verifiable anecdote?  I am interested in the results of this kind of approach</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN COURT: 
 
1.  ask the officer:  
    *  &quot;who was injured?&quot; 
    *  &quot;were you injured?&quot; 
2.  If no injury is shown, then the judge is to be  
    informed that the officer does not have standing  
    to bring charges against the defendant. 
 
3.  If that fails; ask the (officer) revenuer: 
     *  &quot;did you write the complaint?&quot; 
     *  &quot;was this complaint perfect?&quot; 
     *  &quot;how many elements are there to a perfect  
         complaint?&quot; 
     *  at this point the prosecuting attorney will 
        object, as the revenuer is not an expert in 
        complaints; 
     *  the defendant then impeaches the witness as  
        he is not an expert witness, and his  
        testimony is questionable 
 
4.  failing that: 
     * ask the judge: &quot;who do you represent in these 
       proceedings?&quot; 
     * he will indicate &quot;the state&quot; 
     * ask the judge: &quot;If you represent the state, as 
       you have admitted, does that not make you 
       party to the complaint against the defendant?&quot; 
     * The defendant then demands that the judge  
       recuse himself from the proceedings, as it is 
       highly improper for the judge to sit in  
       judgment on a case to which he is party. 
 
IN THAT ORDER. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN COURT:</p>
<p>1.  ask the officer: </p>
<p>    *  &quot;who was injured?&quot;</p>
<p>    *  &quot;were you injured?&quot;</p>
<p>2.  If no injury is shown, then the judge is to be </p>
<p>    informed that the officer does not have standing </p>
<p>    to bring charges against the defendant.</p>
<p>3.  If that fails; ask the (officer) revenuer:</p>
<p>     *  &quot;did you write the complaint?&quot;</p>
<p>     *  &quot;was this complaint perfect?&quot;</p>
<p>     *  &quot;how many elements are there to a perfect </p>
<p>         complaint?&quot;</p>
<p>     *  at this point the prosecuting attorney will</p>
<p>        object, as the revenuer is not an expert in</p>
<p>        complaints;</p>
<p>     *  the defendant then impeaches the witness as </p>
<p>        he is not an expert witness, and his </p>
<p>        testimony is questionable</p>
<p>4.  failing that:</p>
<p>     * ask the judge: &quot;who do you represent in these</p>
<p>       proceedings?&quot;</p>
<p>     * he will indicate &quot;the state&quot;</p>
<p>     * ask the judge: &quot;If you represent the state, as</p>
<p>       you have admitted, does that not make you</p>
<p>       party to the complaint against the defendant?&quot;</p>
<p>     * The defendant then demands that the judge </p>
<p>       recuse himself from the proceedings, as it is</p>
<p>       highly improper for the judge to sit in </p>
<p>       judgment on a case to which he is party.</p>
<p>IN THAT ORDER.</p>
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		<title>By: Peacemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peacemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for everyone Jesse that you&#039;re not playing along with this violent gang. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for everyone Jesse that you&#039;re not playing along with this violent gang.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamestheantipatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamestheantipatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to stick it to em Jesse. Anyone who can&#039;t see how arbitrary these so-called laws and punishments are is deaf, dumb, blind or a combination of all those. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to stick it to em Jesse. Anyone who can&#039;t see how arbitrary these so-called laws and punishments are is deaf, dumb, blind or a combination of all those.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Adam.  What was it laundry day Jesse? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Adam.  What was it laundry day Jesse?</p>
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		<title>By: adam.m.mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam.m.mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a number we can call to state we don&#039;t want people caged for these &#039;crimes&#039;? I also wish everyone would take the same stance with the state. Just stop enabling it and smoke a bowl. Best plan I have heard yet. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a number we can call to state we don&#039;t want people caged for these &#039;crimes&#039;? I also wish everyone would take the same stance with the state. Just stop enabling it and smoke a bowl. Best plan I have heard yet.</p>
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