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		<title>By: Jim Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how you think voting can make a difference.  What you were just shown was that the Keene and county and state government are willing to go to great lengths not to count valid votes.  This problem scales directly with the number of votes.  The more people vote, the more those who count the votes lie and cheat and steal the elections.

It is good to be politically aware and to participate in community events.  It is not sensible to expect to change anything by voting.

If you are going to change anything by voting, the first focus must be on the voting registration and vote counting process.  City and county clerks and registrars of voters and the like should be elected, then sheriffs, etc.   But if anything were going to be changed by voting, they would have made it illegal.

See my essay on the madness of voting at indomitus dot net for more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how you think voting can make a difference.  What you were just shown was that the Keene and county and state government are willing to go to great lengths not to count valid votes.  This problem scales directly with the number of votes.  The more people vote, the more those who count the votes lie and cheat and steal the elections.</p>
<p>It is good to be politically aware and to participate in community events.  It is not sensible to expect to change anything by voting.</p>
<p>If you are going to change anything by voting, the first focus must be on the voting registration and vote counting process.  City and county clerks and registrars of voters and the like should be elected, then sheriffs, etc.   But if anything were going to be changed by voting, they would have made it illegal.</p>
<p>See my essay on the madness of voting at indomitus dot net for more details.</p>
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		<title>By: theKINGofKEENE</title>
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		<dc:creator>theKINGofKEENE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you&#039;re willing to waste your (Nick &amp; Ian) time being a 1/2 assed candidate...Great!...///...But, you&#039;re not willing to challenge / inspect *ALL* the ballots???...What? You really think that they *WOULDN&#039;T* do something like make all the write-in ballots for Ian disappear???...Ever see the clip where Fred Parsells *pretends* to &quot;steal&quot; the school board vote ballots???...(that may have been on Cheshire TV, tho...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#8217;re willing to waste your (Nick &amp; Ian) time being a 1/2 assed candidate&#8230;Great!&#8230;///&#8230;But, you&#8217;re not willing to challenge / inspect *ALL* the ballots???&#8230;What? You really think that they *WOULDN&#8217;T* do something like make all the write-in ballots for Ian disappear???&#8230;Ever see the clip where Fred Parsells *pretends* to &#8220;steal&#8221; the school board vote ballots???&#8230;(that may have been on Cheshire TV, tho&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: theKINGofKEENE</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/10/08/citys-voter-intimidation-campaign-prevents-write-in-candidates-success/comment-page-1/#comment-83611</link>
		<dc:creator>theKINGofKEENE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jumanjiville/keene town council has a process / procedure in place, on paper, to remove &quot;unsuitable persons&quot; -(whatever language they use...) - who manage to get elected. This process can also be used to remove a person who does something *after* they get elected...I would much rather see Nick &amp; Ian get just a little serious, actually *GET ELECTED* to the council - (How hard can it be? Look who&#039;s been elected already....) - just to see the council try to get rid of them...*THAT* would bring out the councils&#039; true colors...As for *YOU*, &quot;END GAME&quot; I have heard essentially the same story from several different sources - that your &quot;ICON&quot; - Clark Anderson, gave $50.- to a disabled girl, got her drunk on alcohol, and had sex with her. That&#039;s about what happened, isn&#039;t it, Clark &amp; &quot;END GAME&quot;???...OH? Well, then let&#039;s hear some details about exactly what this &quot;new business venture&quot;, that will &quot;take up a lot of time, *REALLY IS*???....WELL?....Just like I thought...///...I&#039;d rather be friends w/a &quot;snot-nosed chump, than an alcoholic *SEXUAL PREDATOR*...(Yes, it remains my personal opinion, &amp; true belief, that Clark Anderson is an alcoholic sexual predator...&amp; that&#039;s the &amp;TRUE&amp; reason he dropped out of the race...Here&#039;s another one for you, &quot;END GAME&quot;: Where&#039;s Bill Albrecht???...You know, the now-disgraced *former* Cheshire County Atty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jumanjiville/keene town council has a process / procedure in place, on paper, to remove &#8220;unsuitable persons&#8221; -(whatever language they use&#8230;) &#8211; who manage to get elected. This process can also be used to remove a person who does something *after* they get elected&#8230;I would much rather see Nick &amp; Ian get just a little serious, actually *GET ELECTED* to the council &#8211; (How hard can it be? Look who&#8217;s been elected already&#8230;.) &#8211; just to see the council try to get rid of them&#8230;*THAT* would bring out the councils&#8217; true colors&#8230;As for *YOU*, &#8220;END GAME&#8221; I have heard essentially the same story from several different sources &#8211; that your &#8220;ICON&#8221; &#8211; Clark Anderson, gave $50.- to a disabled girl, got her drunk on alcohol, and had sex with her. That&#8217;s about what happened, isn&#8217;t it, Clark &amp; &#8220;END GAME&#8221;???&#8230;OH? Well, then let&#8217;s hear some details about exactly what this &#8220;new business venture&#8221;, that will &#8220;take up a lot of time, *REALLY IS*???&#8230;.WELL?&#8230;.Just like I thought&#8230;///&#8230;I&#8217;d rather be friends w/a &#8220;snot-nosed chump, than an alcoholic *SEXUAL PREDATOR*&#8230;(Yes, it remains my personal opinion, &amp; true belief, that Clark Anderson is an alcoholic sexual predator&#8230;&amp; that&#8217;s the &amp;TRUE&amp; reason he dropped out of the race&#8230;Here&#8217;s another one for you, &#8220;END GAME&#8221;: Where&#8217;s Bill Albrecht???&#8230;You know, the now-disgraced *former* Cheshire County Atty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lpviper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lpviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>political ninjitsu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>political ninjitsu</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdoo78</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberdoo78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

As I understand Ian&#039;s goal, and if wrong he will correct me, Ian did in fact not want to be elected, or more correctly he wanted to be elected, but did not want to serve which is the same thing, in my opinion, as not being elected, since as I understand things, and correct me if I am wrong, if the elected individual fails to take office, it falls to the next person with the higher number of votes.

Now with Ian not wanting to actually serve, can you blame him for not &#039;politicking&#039;? Would you spend time on something that is meaningless for you to spend time on? 9 write in votes is something, however in any event it matters not.

Nick&#039;s campiagn was more or less, I feel(as in it is my opioion and not factual in any way, and Nick can step forward and correct my information if he wants) just something to test the waters. 

If I were so inclined, which I have been tempted to do many times, to run for some type of political position(something that offends my &#039;freemarketeer&#039; sensibilities) I&#039;d try running once without doing anything to see how I faired with me doing nothing, to get a sort of baseline on how hard things might be to get elected. Then the next time, I&#039;d know how to judge my next attempt to see if I faired better. Sort of how a amateur athlete trains, he finds out what his worse time could be(generally speaking this is his first time) so he can gage his success or failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>As I understand Ian&#8217;s goal, and if wrong he will correct me, Ian did in fact not want to be elected, or more correctly he wanted to be elected, but did not want to serve which is the same thing, in my opinion, as not being elected, since as I understand things, and correct me if I am wrong, if the elected individual fails to take office, it falls to the next person with the higher number of votes.</p>
<p>Now with Ian not wanting to actually serve, can you blame him for not &#8216;politicking&#8217;? Would you spend time on something that is meaningless for you to spend time on? 9 write in votes is something, however in any event it matters not.</p>
<p>Nick&#8217;s campiagn was more or less, I feel(as in it is my opioion and not factual in any way, and Nick can step forward and correct my information if he wants) just something to test the waters. </p>
<p>If I were so inclined, which I have been tempted to do many times, to run for some type of political position(something that offends my &#8216;freemarketeer&#8217; sensibilities) I&#8217;d try running once without doing anything to see how I faired with me doing nothing, to get a sort of baseline on how hard things might be to get elected. Then the next time, I&#8217;d know how to judge my next attempt to see if I faired better. Sort of how a amateur athlete trains, he finds out what his worse time could be(generally speaking this is his first time) so he can gage his success or failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people are confusing Nick and Ian.  Ian actually campaigned a little (though not enough to get more than 9 write-in votes).  Nick spent maybe a few minutes campaigning (he filled out at least one form and I saw him talk to one guy).

Anyway, from what I can tell, neither one cares a lot about getting elected or anything, otherwise, their would have been effort and stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people are confusing Nick and Ian.  Ian actually campaigned a little (though not enough to get more than 9 write-in votes).  Nick spent maybe a few minutes campaigning (he filled out at least one form and I saw him talk to one guy).</p>
<p>Anyway, from what I can tell, neither one cares a lot about getting elected or anything, otherwise, their would have been effort and stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can tell, registering to vote only requires swearing domicile in a particular ward - NOT revealing where you live.  (This is how homeless people can vote.)  They will lie and try to pretend otherwise, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell, registering to vote only requires swearing domicile in a particular ward &#8211; NOT revealing where you live.  (This is how homeless people can vote.)  They will lie and try to pretend otherwise, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did get 92 votes.  Look at it this way. It was not a presidential or mid term election, so turnout for a primary of this type was going to be low anyhow.

92 votes is 92 votes. Go out and spread your message in the next month and maybe you&#039;ll win.

Just don&#039;t cry voter fraud. The UPS store is not a residence (especially if it is not in your ward)so don&#039;t try to get away with that because then you become the fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did get 92 votes.  Look at it this way. It was not a presidential or mid term election, so turnout for a primary of this type was going to be low anyhow.</p>
<p>92 votes is 92 votes. Go out and spread your message in the next month and maybe you&#8217;ll win.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t cry voter fraud. The UPS store is not a residence (especially if it is not in your ward)so don&#8217;t try to get away with that because then you become the fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Puke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! 
Democracy fails again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!<br />
Democracy fails again!</p>
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		<title>By: Snowdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, let&#039;s say someone is aggressing against you, like a local gang or something: would it not be OK to send someone to pretend to be one of them, to infiltrate their organization, to try to destroy it? Is that any different than running for office to try to thwart a statist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, let&#8217;s say someone is aggressing against you, like a local gang or something: would it not be OK to send someone to pretend to be one of them, to infiltrate their organization, to try to destroy it? Is that any different than running for office to try to thwart a statist?</p>
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