Comments on: Video: Pumpkin Fest Crowd Boos Police Thuggery http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/ Peaceful Evolution Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:02:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84543 Paul Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:18:02 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84543 Joe, have you never heard of civil disobedience? It brought the underground railroad, Egyptian independence, Indian independence, The crumbling of the Communist government in East Germany and in what's now the Czech Republic, the independence of the Baltic states from the USSR, Women's sufferage, the end of segregation, contributed to the end of alcohol prohibition, and more. Politics, especially at the federal level, is what you do if you want to spin your wheels and get nothing done. Civil disobedience is what you do when you do when you want to effect real change. Joe, have you never heard of civil disobedience? It brought the underground railroad, Egyptian independence, Indian independence, The crumbling of the Communist government in East Germany and in what’s now the Czech Republic, the independence of the Baltic states from the USSR, Women’s sufferage, the end of segregation, contributed to the end of alcohol prohibition, and more. Politics, especially at the federal level, is what you do if you want to spin your wheels and get nothing done. Civil disobedience is what you do when you do when you want to effect real change.

]]> By: Paul http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84542 Paul Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:12:33 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84542 No, Joe, I am not free as long as a bunch of bureaucrats believe they own my body and have the right to enforce whatever arbitrary rules they want over it. I'm not free as long as those bureaucrats believe they own my labor, and steal liberally from my paycheck. I am not free as long as they believe they own my home and can steal it out from under me if I don't pay their extortion racket. The fact that there exist people in the world who are less free than I does not change that fact, and it is no excuse. No, Joe, I am not free as long as a bunch of bureaucrats believe they own my body and have the right to enforce whatever arbitrary rules they want over it. I’m not free as long as those bureaucrats believe they own my labor, and steal liberally from my paycheck. I am not free as long as they believe they own my home and can steal it out from under me if I don’t pay their extortion racket. The fact that there exist people in the world who are less free than I does not change that fact, and it is no excuse.

]]> By: joe http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84538 joe Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:17:17 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84538 You dont care what congress thinks? So the drug will never be legalized. It has to pass congress, come on now! And dude, you are free. Go travel the world and you will see your free and very fortunate for what you have here in the US. Dont start preaching freedom because you have it. Again travel to some other countries and come back. You will be much more appreciative of the freedom you have. If you dont like it however, its in your freedom to move out of the country to some where you can smoke into oblivion. You dont care what congress thinks? So the drug will never be legalized. It has to pass congress, come on now! And dude, you are free. Go travel the world and you will see your free and very fortunate for what you have here in the US. Dont start preaching freedom because you have it. Again travel to some other countries and come back. You will be much more appreciative of the freedom you have. If you dont like it however, its in your freedom to move out of the country to some where you can smoke into oblivion.

]]> By: xrazorwirex http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84530 xrazorwirex Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:07:15 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84530 A few points: 1. I don't consider myself a cannabis consumer; I smoked a bowl or 2 to celebrate the day when over 100 people first showed up at the square in Keene; I don't live there or I'd be there. 2. I could care less about what congress thinks; you posed the question "if you were sent before congress" and I gave you my response. 3. I also specifically stated that I would say nothing about cannabis if asked to say something to your masters; It's about being free and I don't have to justify myself or what I do - I'm not forcing anyone to do anything and I'm not damaging / trespassing on anyone's property. Tell me how that justifies you telling me what to do. Really. A few points:

1. I don’t consider myself a cannabis consumer; I smoked a bowl or 2 to celebrate the day when over 100 people first showed up at the square in Keene; I don’t live there or I’d be there.

2. I could care less about what congress thinks; you posed the question “if you were sent before congress” and I gave you my response.

3. I also specifically stated that I would say nothing about cannabis if asked to say something to your masters; It’s about being free and I don’t have to justify myself or what I do – I’m not forcing anyone to do anything and I’m not damaging / trespassing on anyone’s property. Tell me how that justifies you telling me what to do. Really.

]]> By: joe http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84529 joe Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:33:31 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84529 "So that they won’t have to be scared that they will be assaulted or kidnapped by the police." Go to congress and argue this one. Come on! That's not an idiot comment. So when you are smoking in your house police just run though the door and bring you some place that you don’t know of. They keep you against your will? Have you ever been assaulted by a cop? I have, but I’m not arguing that speeding should be legal. I’m sorry man but you’re not too intelligent. And you can say I’m not, but I attend MIT. You guys aren’t doing shit when it comes to changing the laws. You guys are a bunch of wanna be fucking hippies. Marijuana is illegal and always will be. Especially if you guys still get you little stoner get togethers. So thanks for making the stuff stay illegal. It shows people who smoke really are fucking dumbasses “So that they won’t have to be scared that they will be assaulted or kidnapped by the police.”
Go to congress and argue this one. Come on! That’s not an idiot comment. So when you are smoking in your house police just run though the door and bring you some place that you don’t know of. They keep you against your will? Have you ever been assaulted by a cop? I have, but I’m not arguing that speeding should be legal. I’m sorry man but you’re not too intelligent. And you can say I’m not, but I attend MIT. You guys aren’t doing shit when it comes to changing the laws. You guys are a bunch of wanna be fucking hippies. Marijuana is illegal and always will be. Especially if you guys still get you little stoner get togethers. So thanks for making the stuff stay illegal. It shows people who smoke really are fucking dumbasses

]]> By: Dr. Q http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84519 Dr. Q Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:08:17 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84519 "If its one more CHANCE that someone will get hurt and/or die, its not worth it." Joe, innocent people are hurt or even killed all the time by police because of drug prohibition. Check out this site: http://www.cato.org/raidmap/ If you're so concerned about people getting hurt, you should support the legalization of drugs. "People who smoke marijuana still smoke it. why do they want it leagal?" So that they won't have to be scared that they will be assaulted or kidnapped by the police. "Honestly, When you were in high school, and even now that your in college, overall, how are the kids who smoke academics compared to the students who dont? Are they both driven in life? Think about it." I know plenty of intelligent, driven people who use marijuana (and other drugs) and plenty of idiots who don't use drugs. “If its one more CHANCE that someone will get hurt and/or die, its not worth it.”

Joe, innocent people are hurt or even killed all the time by police because of drug prohibition. Check out this site: http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

If you’re so concerned about people getting hurt, you should support the legalization of drugs.

“People who smoke marijuana still smoke it. why do they want it leagal?”

So that they won’t have to be scared that they will be assaulted or kidnapped by the police.

“Honestly, When you were in high school, and even now that your in college, overall, how are the kids who smoke academics compared to the students who dont? Are they both driven in life? Think about it.”

I know plenty of intelligent, driven people who use marijuana (and other drugs) and plenty of idiots who don’t use drugs.

]]> By: joe http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84516 joe Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:02:04 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84516 Paul Come on, the points about corn and shit are very dumb points, and arnt going to get you anywhere with legalizing the drug. The fact is is that marijuana is illegal and is against the law. The guy with the microphone argues marijuana with pharmacutical drugs, so hes advocating madicinal marijuana. How does that involve him. Then he talks about totally legalizing it. I dont think he knows what he is really advocating here. If its one more CHANCE that someone will get hurt and/or die, its not worth it. People who smoke marijuana still smoke it. why do they want it leagal? Either way they still are going to smoke it wheather or not is legal. Again this country has way more important things to work on then this. I want you to think about this, you can give an answer just so you can defend this rally but, Honestly, When you were in high school, and even now that your in college, overall, how are the kids who smoke academics compared to the students who dont? Are they both driven in life? Think about it. Paul
Come on, the points about corn and shit are very dumb points, and arnt going to get you anywhere with legalizing the drug. The fact is is that marijuana is illegal and is against the law. The guy with the microphone argues marijuana with pharmacutical drugs, so hes advocating madicinal marijuana. How does that involve him. Then he talks about totally legalizing it. I dont think he knows what he is really advocating here. If its one more CHANCE that someone will get hurt and/or die, its not worth it. People who smoke marijuana still smoke it. why do they want it leagal? Either way they still are going to smoke it wheather or not is legal. Again this country has way more important things to work on then this. I want you to think about this, you can give an answer just so you can defend this rally but, Honestly, When you were in high school, and even now that your in college, overall, how are the kids who smoke academics compared to the students who dont? Are they both driven in life? Think about it.

]]> By: Paul http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84500 Paul Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:42:40 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84500 Yes, moral arguments tend to not work well in front of an audience of cheats, liers, crooks, and tyrants. In fact, I suggest we all think to ourselves, before proposing an action, "would congress support this?" If the answer is yes, don't do it. Yes, moral arguments tend to not work well in front of an audience of cheats, liers, crooks, and tyrants. In fact, I suggest we all think to ourselves, before proposing an action, “would congress support this?” If the answer is yes, don’t do it.

]]> By: Paul http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84499 Paul Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:39:33 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84499 Joe, did you read what I said? The road system kills thousands annually, shall we outlaw roads? People sometimes choke on corn cobs, shall we outlaw corn? Houses sometimes burn, shall we outlaw wood houses? People sometimes get electrocuted, shall we outlaw electricity in the home? People often have heart attacks, shall we outlaw all fatty foods? After all, if it saves one life, it's worth it!! You propose total tyranny over the lives of others, to force them to live only in ways of which you approve, under the guise that it might slightly increase their safety!? How about this: You don't own other people's lives, or bodies, so stop dictating your personal beliefs and preferences at the point of a gun, and mind your own damn business. Joe, did you read what I said? The road system kills thousands annually, shall we outlaw roads? People sometimes choke on corn cobs, shall we outlaw corn? Houses sometimes burn, shall we outlaw wood houses? People sometimes get electrocuted, shall we outlaw electricity in the home? People often have heart attacks, shall we outlaw all fatty foods?

After all, if it saves one life, it’s worth it!!

You propose total tyranny over the lives of others, to force them to live only in ways of which you approve, under the guise that it might slightly increase their safety!? How about this: You don’t own other people’s lives, or bodies, so stop dictating your personal beliefs and preferences at the point of a gun, and mind your own damn business.

]]> By: Joe http://freekeene.com/2009/10/17/video-pumpkin-fest-crowd-boos-police-thuggery/comment-page-3/#comment-84498 Joe Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:38:40 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=3819#comment-84498 xrazorwirex If you were going infront of congress, they would want to here some educated points and stats. Not some dumbass who just smokes and says im a free individual. You ever listen to the congress men who are for the legalization? xrazorwirex
If you were going infront of congress, they would want to here some educated points and stats. Not some dumbass who just smokes and says im a free individual. You ever listen to the congress men who are for the legalization?

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