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		<title>By: Ian Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A. I don&#039;t have a P.O. Box
B. I was homeless at the time, and you aren&#039;t the one who gets to say otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. I don&#8217;t have a P.O. Box<br />
B. I was homeless at the time, and you aren&#8217;t the one who gets to say otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get a PO box, you need to give a physical address. You were lying to either the Keene officials or to the UPS store. 
 But you did lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get a PO box, you need to give a physical address. You were lying to either the Keene officials or to the UPS store.<br />
 But you did lie.</p>
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		<title>By: libertydrew</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/11/13/voter-intimidation-continues-in-keene/comment-page-1/#comment-85747</link>
		<dc:creator>libertydrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I certainly do not consent to this insane system and its rules and now that they’ve denied me the right to vote, no one could claim that the NH representatives are my “representative body”, so I should be free and clear to stop paying them, right?&quot;

nicely said and i really liked the nobody attempt 
that should be on the ballot especially, if you only have one person running 

keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I certainly do not consent to this insane system and its rules and now that they’ve denied me the right to vote, no one could claim that the NH representatives are my “representative body”, so I should be free and clear to stop paying them, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>nicely said and i really liked the nobody attempt<br />
that should be on the ballot especially, if you only have one person running </p>
<p>keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian. As an outsider, and fellow Anarcho-Capitalist, I would urge you to take a look at the goal of using the State against itself. For this purpose, activism of this nature defeats the purpose of using the State. You were clearly, not in a state of homelessness as you own property. Unless you either evicted yourself and abandoned the property and therefore allowed another to homestead your property in accordance with Rothbard, you were not homeless. 

The goal of using the State should be to reduce and eliminate it. Taxation is number one. Providing equitable private institutions to replace existing theft funded State institutions is the solution, and is the goal. In light of this, it seems to me, you were being disingenious. Perhaps it might help to open For a New Liberty every once and a while to help get some perspective. I would only imagine that the Free Keener on the ballot was an Anarcho-Capitalist, it seems your quibble was trite. 

Secondly, being a part of a group is not inherently against the philosophy of Anarcho-Capitalism. In fact, it is actually in line with it. It is an individuals right to associate and contract with whom he pleases under the contract he pleases. People get confused with voluntary associations and organizations, and coercive forceful involuntary ones. Collectivism is the latter, Anarcho-Capitalism is the former. Otherwise, you would never be able to run a commercial institution. 

Ian, might I provide a little clarity. First and foremost while I applaud all the activism that you guys are doing, and hope to one day join, it should not be for transient and light reasons. We are (Anarcho-Capitalists) for the most part trying to educate and inform. Whether you like it or not, your behavior does reflect on the group as a whole. For this reason, civil disobedience against unjust laws that violate NAP and Natural Law, criminality like theft (AKA Taxation), should be performed if one so chooses. Taxation should be the number one priority, as it is inherently immoral, and moreover the number one intervention and distorter of the market besides the Federal Reserve. 

I&#039;ve heard that many natives say they generally support the cause of liberty, but every revolution has only happened with the education of a significant number of people. With a change in philosophy. We should be trying to reach out to these people and get them reading Jean-Baptiste Say, Murray Rothbard, Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Ludwig Von Mises, Hans Sennholz, and the School of Salamanca. I believe working in and out of the system both by participation to eliminate via election and using the power vested in the State against itself for the purposes of liberty (Nullification, Interposition, etc. from the Federal Government, and then privatization of the State institutions, while eliminating all taxation), and by using Agorism and Civil Disobedience outside the system. 

As a prospective mover and joiner of the FSP, and participatory member of the activism, I would urge you and, indeed -- those who are anarcho-capitalists, to harken back to Rothbard. Think of voting as a contract. If you knowingly or unknowingly enter into a contract fraudulently, it is nullified. Now, I know for a fact these women most likely do not understand homesteading, but, they did at least get it right (That you were indeed not homeless).

Now, maybe I&#039;m more entrenched in the intellectual encampment than the pure activist, who knows. I&#039;m doing my part to trying to educate people about our ideology. I would like to see civil disobedience to taxation, and criminal imprisonment and restitution levies. Those are against NAP and Natural Law and resonate with (generally) the native population. How I would love to see NH nullify legal tender laws, and the Federal Reserve. Sometimes movements need clear goals and objectives. Establishing a sound monetary system in line with Hayekian principles would be a fine start! Allow private mints and businesses to accept any payment for goods and services, and the payment of debt. This I think, is a prime mover and could spark a general fire in the population.

In any event, I applaud the activism in Keene and NH itself. Hopefully, oneday, when I arrive I will bring a fresh perspective. Remember, we are libertarians, not libertines. Continue the activism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian. As an outsider, and fellow Anarcho-Capitalist, I would urge you to take a look at the goal of using the State against itself. For this purpose, activism of this nature defeats the purpose of using the State. You were clearly, not in a state of homelessness as you own property. Unless you either evicted yourself and abandoned the property and therefore allowed another to homestead your property in accordance with Rothbard, you were not homeless. </p>
<p>The goal of using the State should be to reduce and eliminate it. Taxation is number one. Providing equitable private institutions to replace existing theft funded State institutions is the solution, and is the goal. In light of this, it seems to me, you were being disingenious. Perhaps it might help to open For a New Liberty every once and a while to help get some perspective. I would only imagine that the Free Keener on the ballot was an Anarcho-Capitalist, it seems your quibble was trite. </p>
<p>Secondly, being a part of a group is not inherently against the philosophy of Anarcho-Capitalism. In fact, it is actually in line with it. It is an individuals right to associate and contract with whom he pleases under the contract he pleases. People get confused with voluntary associations and organizations, and coercive forceful involuntary ones. Collectivism is the latter, Anarcho-Capitalism is the former. Otherwise, you would never be able to run a commercial institution. </p>
<p>Ian, might I provide a little clarity. First and foremost while I applaud all the activism that you guys are doing, and hope to one day join, it should not be for transient and light reasons. We are (Anarcho-Capitalists) for the most part trying to educate and inform. Whether you like it or not, your behavior does reflect on the group as a whole. For this reason, civil disobedience against unjust laws that violate NAP and Natural Law, criminality like theft (AKA Taxation), should be performed if one so chooses. Taxation should be the number one priority, as it is inherently immoral, and moreover the number one intervention and distorter of the market besides the Federal Reserve. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that many natives say they generally support the cause of liberty, but every revolution has only happened with the education of a significant number of people. With a change in philosophy. We should be trying to reach out to these people and get them reading Jean-Baptiste Say, Murray Rothbard, Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Ludwig Von Mises, Hans Sennholz, and the School of Salamanca. I believe working in and out of the system both by participation to eliminate via election and using the power vested in the State against itself for the purposes of liberty (Nullification, Interposition, etc. from the Federal Government, and then privatization of the State institutions, while eliminating all taxation), and by using Agorism and Civil Disobedience outside the system. </p>
<p>As a prospective mover and joiner of the FSP, and participatory member of the activism, I would urge you and, indeed &#8212; those who are anarcho-capitalists, to harken back to Rothbard. Think of voting as a contract. If you knowingly or unknowingly enter into a contract fraudulently, it is nullified. Now, I know for a fact these women most likely do not understand homesteading, but, they did at least get it right (That you were indeed not homeless).</p>
<p>Now, maybe I&#8217;m more entrenched in the intellectual encampment than the pure activist, who knows. I&#8217;m doing my part to trying to educate people about our ideology. I would like to see civil disobedience to taxation, and criminal imprisonment and restitution levies. Those are against NAP and Natural Law and resonate with (generally) the native population. How I would love to see NH nullify legal tender laws, and the Federal Reserve. Sometimes movements need clear goals and objectives. Establishing a sound monetary system in line with Hayekian principles would be a fine start! Allow private mints and businesses to accept any payment for goods and services, and the payment of debt. This I think, is a prime mover and could spark a general fire in the population.</p>
<p>In any event, I applaud the activism in Keene and NH itself. Hopefully, oneday, when I arrive I will bring a fresh perspective. Remember, we are libertarians, not libertines. Continue the activism!</p>
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		<title>By: HECAITOU</title>
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		<dc:creator>HECAITOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all &amp; nobody in particular: I can, &amp; will, show you where at least one &quot;homeless camp&quot;/ &quot;tent in the woods&quot; is in *EACH* of Keene&#039;s 5 wards. Who knows which homeless who &quot;lives&quot; where???...and I hear the drunk-monkeys out behind Hannafords are actually working on a *CABIN*!...(as yet un-confirmed, but very plausible rumor as of 11/16/2009...) I was actually homeless, as in &quot;tent-in-the-woods&quot; homeless, (NOT, &quot;girlfriend booted me homeless...*grin*), some years ago. When I voted, I went to the Ward I had last voted in, honestly, told the truth nicely, &amp; was allowed to vote w/no problem...The whole point of Wards, in Keene, is this: Ward Councilors get 4 year terms, but must live in the ward they represent, and only votes in that ward count. &quot;At-large&quot; councilors only get 2 year terms, but they can count the votes in any &amp; all 5 wards. It is sorts a like having a House &amp; Senate...Works OK 4 me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all &amp; nobody in particular: I can, &amp; will, show you where at least one &#8220;homeless camp&#8221;/ &#8220;tent in the woods&#8221; is in *EACH* of Keene&#8217;s 5 wards. Who knows which homeless who &#8220;lives&#8221; where???&#8230;and I hear the drunk-monkeys out behind Hannafords are actually working on a *CABIN*!&#8230;(as yet un-confirmed, but very plausible rumor as of 11/16/2009&#8230;) I was actually homeless, as in &#8220;tent-in-the-woods&#8221; homeless, (NOT, &#8220;girlfriend booted me homeless&#8230;*grin*), some years ago. When I voted, I went to the Ward I had last voted in, honestly, told the truth nicely, &amp; was allowed to vote w/no problem&#8230;The whole point of Wards, in Keene, is this: Ward Councilors get 4 year terms, but must live in the ward they represent, and only votes in that ward count. &#8220;At-large&#8221; councilors only get 2 year terms, but they can count the votes in any &amp; all 5 wards. It is sorts a like having a House &amp; Senate&#8230;Works OK 4 me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KDus</title>
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		<dc:creator>KDus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, your activism must be perfect every time or you&#039;ll destroy the Liberty movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, your activism must be perfect every time or you&#8217;ll destroy the Liberty movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://freekeene.com/2009/11/13/voter-intimidation-continues-in-keene/comment-page-1/#comment-85180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I was fairly nice considering I was being denied the &quot;right&quot; to vote.

I don&#039;t want larger enforcement mechanisms, I want the end of coercion.  I think people swear on affidavits all the time to be living places they are not.  They are allowed to vote simply by swearing an oath.  These bureaucrats would not treat me the same way.

A month earlier they refused to allow me to just give my street and withhold my house number - they want total obedience, and I don&#039;t want to give it to them.  Sorry you feel this is a personal attack against you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I was fairly nice considering I was being denied the &#8220;right&#8221; to vote.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want larger enforcement mechanisms, I want the end of coercion.  I think people swear on affidavits all the time to be living places they are not.  They are allowed to vote simply by swearing an oath.  These bureaucrats would not treat me the same way.</p>
<p>A month earlier they refused to allow me to just give my street and withhold my house number &#8211; they want total obedience, and I don&#8217;t want to give it to them.  Sorry you feel this is a personal attack against you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hypocricy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hypocricy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, you are one that always seeks precise definitions of words and it is clear you were being disingenuous when you stated you were homeless. 

At no time were you one without permanent housing during this escapade. You first suggested some feud with someone living at your home that forced you out of the property and it just so happened to be on election day. 

Now, you suggest you can kick yourself out of your own house for a few hours, be &quot;homeless,&quot; and then waltz right in hours later to conduct your radio show.

If you want to argue that anyone should be able to vote in Ward 4 without proof of residence then that is one thing, but don&#039;t insult everyone&#039;s intelligence while arguing you were a homeless victim that was disenfranchised on that day while still paying thousands of dollars in property taxes and complaining about it every week across America on the radio. 

Not to mention your plan to get enough people to stop paying property taxes and your well-documented fight for your tenants &quot;right&quot; to have a couch on your lawn.

The folks manning the polls that day knew very well what you were alleging was incorrect. If you want to argue that anyone should be able to swear affidavits and vote wherever they like with full knowledge that that system is unworkable and would require much larger enforcement mechanisms, then go ahead, but I had the understanding that you were for less government and not more.

Most natives love the idea of the free state project, but be mindful of how you present the message to the masses, and most importantly how you act. 

Why does it seem you want to make enemies with those who have enjoyed the greater freedoms that New Hampshire residents have fought and enjoyed for so long? 

Your few thousand dollars in property tax payment in all one dollar bills is but a pittance in the blood, sweat, dollars, and tears that has built this live free, or die state in this liberty loving bastion amidst the authoritarian northeast and the rest of the totalitarian &quot;United&quot; States.

So join us, do not act as if the natives are your enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, you are one that always seeks precise definitions of words and it is clear you were being disingenuous when you stated you were homeless. </p>
<p>At no time were you one without permanent housing during this escapade. You first suggested some feud with someone living at your home that forced you out of the property and it just so happened to be on election day. </p>
<p>Now, you suggest you can kick yourself out of your own house for a few hours, be &#8220;homeless,&#8221; and then waltz right in hours later to conduct your radio show.</p>
<p>If you want to argue that anyone should be able to vote in Ward 4 without proof of residence then that is one thing, but don&#8217;t insult everyone&#8217;s intelligence while arguing you were a homeless victim that was disenfranchised on that day while still paying thousands of dollars in property taxes and complaining about it every week across America on the radio. </p>
<p>Not to mention your plan to get enough people to stop paying property taxes and your well-documented fight for your tenants &#8220;right&#8221; to have a couch on your lawn.</p>
<p>The folks manning the polls that day knew very well what you were alleging was incorrect. If you want to argue that anyone should be able to swear affidavits and vote wherever they like with full knowledge that that system is unworkable and would require much larger enforcement mechanisms, then go ahead, but I had the understanding that you were for less government and not more.</p>
<p>Most natives love the idea of the free state project, but be mindful of how you present the message to the masses, and most importantly how you act. </p>
<p>Why does it seem you want to make enemies with those who have enjoyed the greater freedoms that New Hampshire residents have fought and enjoyed for so long? </p>
<p>Your few thousand dollars in property tax payment in all one dollar bills is but a pittance in the blood, sweat, dollars, and tears that has built this live free, or die state in this liberty loving bastion amidst the authoritarian northeast and the rest of the totalitarian &#8220;United&#8221; States.</p>
<p>So join us, do not act as if the natives are your enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty sure Name is not Fred.</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elkfart,

There was no video because no one had filed to record.  I arrived late and began recording as soon as Burke left the room, hence why the video picks up when it did.

Hope that&#039;s clear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elkfart,</p>
<p>There was no video because no one had filed to record.  I arrived late and began recording as soon as Burke left the room, hence why the video picks up when it did.</p>
<p>Hope that&#8217;s clear!</p>
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