Comments on: The City of Keene’s Hall of Shame http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/ Peaceful Evolution Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:24:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: libertydrew http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85771 libertydrew Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:43:45 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85771 lol maybe when i move there and start meeting people i will. i think you might have had to be a resident for at least a year though. some free stater must be interested. it's the most powerful position. get that and the chief has to obey.:) even the mayor cant tell you what to do. the constitution is your only law you have to obey. lol maybe when i move there and start meeting people i will. i think you might have had to be a resident for at least a year though. some free stater must be interested. it’s the most powerful position. get that and the chief has to obey.:) even the mayor cant tell you what to do. the constitution is your only law you have to obey.

]]> By: PaulO http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85770 PaulO Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:43:39 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85770 Trying this again. <blockquote>Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position</blockquote>My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0 <blockquote>lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :) </blockquote> Sounds like job for someone like yourself! Trying this again.

Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position

My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0

lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :)

Sounds like job for someone like yourself!

]]> By: PaulO http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85769 PaulO Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:31:39 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85769 [blockquote]Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position[/blockquote]My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0 [blockquote]lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :)[/blockquote] Sounds like job for someone like yourself! [blockquote]Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position[/blockquote]My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0
[blockquote]lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :) [/blockquote]
Sounds like job for someone like yourself!

]]> By: libertydrew http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85768 libertydrew Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:08:16 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85768 "Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position…Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote…" lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :) “Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position…Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote…”

lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff :)

]]> By: theKINGofKEENE http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85766 theKINGofKEENE Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:57:53 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85766 Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position...Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote... Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position…Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote…

]]> By: PaulO http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85737 PaulO Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:54:26 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85737 <blockquote cite="">maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker’s in a positive manor</blockquote> Ah, yes, I misunderstood. My apologies. I do like this idea. Maybe someone (or you!) can start this initiative. <blockquote cite="">i really don’t know how i’m supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker’s</blockquote> I misunderstood where you were coming from. Sorry.

maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker’s in a positive manor

Ah, yes, I misunderstood. My apologies. I do like this idea. Maybe someone (or you!) can start this initiative.

i really don’t know how i’m supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker’s

I misunderstood where you were coming from. Sorry.

]]> By: libertydrew http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85736 libertydrew Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:33:19 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85736 --"Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law."-- srry if i gave the impression i was against the 420 event ,i'm not.my point is why cant that event be use to better organize to get one of your own elected.maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker's in a positive manor. i don't claim to know the answer.just really tryin to give something to think about. --"Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He’s selected by a city official."-- that's weird because most county's in u.s. this is an elected position if not run for the seat that hire's the sheriff i know it's not easy if it where we would be a free country:) --"If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to work within the system, I’d recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect. :-)"-- i really don't know how i'm supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker's anyway keep up the good work drew –”Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law.”–

srry if i gave the impression i was against the 420 event ,i’m not.my point is why cant that event be use to better organize to get one of your own elected.maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker’s in a positive manor. i don’t claim to know the answer.just really tryin to give something to think about.

–”Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He’s selected by a city official.”–

that’s weird because most county’s in u.s. this is an elected position if not run for the seat that hire’s the sheriff i know it’s not easy if it where we would be a free country:)

–”If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to work within the system, I’d recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect. :-) ”–

i really don’t know how i’m supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker’s

anyway keep up the good work

drew

]]> By: PaulO http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85734 PaulO Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:00:40 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85734 Yes, we agree on what outcome we want. The question is, what is the easiest way to get it? I honestly do not know. I do know it appears to be extremely difficult to get elected to any office in Keene running on a liberty campaign. It is a left-leaning city. The representatives from this district tend to be Democrats who look to the government for solutions. Nick running for city council isn't the first to try. I hope he'll try again and get more success as he gets gains name recognition. My point is: there are people trying to get elected to offices in Keene right now. If I could snap my fingers and get folks elected to city positions, I would. If I could snap my fingers a second time and have those elected remove draconian measures, I would. The problem is, it's not that easy to get elected nor to actually do anything once you're in office. I personally don't think it is impossible, but I can understand why people might think so. It takes more than a clean record. Much, much more. At a minimum, I would say it takes years of building name recognition within the town and getting people to know who you are. Unless you are wealthy (or a fabulous fundraiser) and can afford to speed up that process. People do civil disobedience for a lot of different reasons. Some do it in hopes of recruiting more liberty activists. Some do it to draw public attention to an issue and/or the gun in the room. From those I've talked to, I'd say most do it for reasons of integrity as they simply view much of the taxation and restrictions as immoral. If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to <a href="http://www.nhliberty.org/" rel="nofollow">work within the system</a>, I'd recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect. :-) Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law. You know how many activists it took to do the 420 events? Two. It started with just two people but garnered a lot of public support. How much good could two people have done in the same amount of time trying to work within the system? <blockquote cite="">buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in town</blockquote>I completely disagree. It may not win the support of many older voters or government workers, but it definitely wins the support of young, freedom-loving individuals. Most of the people involved knew nothing of FreeKeene.com but they do love freedom. Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He's selected by a city official. Yes, we agree on what outcome we want. The question is, what is the easiest way to get it? I honestly do not know.

I do know it appears to be extremely difficult to get elected to any office in Keene running on a liberty campaign. It is a left-leaning city. The representatives from this district tend to be Democrats who look to the government for solutions. Nick running for city council isn’t the first to try. I hope he’ll try again and get more success as he gets gains name recognition. My point is: there are people trying to get elected to offices in Keene right now.

If I could snap my fingers and get folks elected to city positions, I would. If I could snap my fingers a second time and have those elected remove draconian measures, I would. The problem is, it’s not that easy to get elected nor to actually do anything once you’re in office. I personally don’t think it is impossible, but I can understand why people might think so. It takes more than a clean record. Much, much more. At a minimum, I would say it takes years of building name recognition within the town and getting people to know who you are. Unless you are wealthy (or a fabulous fundraiser) and can afford to speed up that process.

People do civil disobedience for a lot of different reasons. Some do it in hopes of recruiting more liberty activists. Some do it to draw public attention to an issue and/or the gun in the room. From those I’ve talked to, I’d say most do it for reasons of integrity as they simply view much of the taxation and restrictions as immoral.

If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to work within the system, I’d recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect. :-)

Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law. You know how many activists it took to do the 420 events? Two. It started with just two people but garnered a lot of public support. How much good could two people have done in the same amount of time trying to work within the system?

buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in town

I completely disagree. It may not win the support of many older voters or government workers, but it definitely wins the support of young, freedom-loving individuals. Most of the people involved knew nothing of FreeKeene.com but they do love freedom.

Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He’s selected by a city official.

]]> By: libertydrew http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85733 libertydrew Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:34:58 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85733 "Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win.""I’d say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected. ty for responding. this is my point all these people show up in support of smoking pot which is good because #1 it's ridiculous to ban nature #2 it's only being used to enslave us and the list can go on ,but why when you have a chance to do it right no one has the time.if we want change we are going to have to work hard at it. the powers that be are deadly serius about enslaving us,and have billions of dollor's to do it.now you guy's in keen have an exellent oppertunity to make a change and it's not just the mayor's office that needs to be ran for. how about running for sheriff that is the most powerfull possision which require's a clean record i'm sure.and buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in town. yes you should have the right to smoke weed,but there are those that dont want the recless behavior that comes with it.this just give the enslaver's more power.that energey would be more effective getting more people with clean records elected. that is the only way change is gonna happen. these people in power now don't care how many people get put in jail it's all money to them. prisons get paid on how many beds are filled. and i don't mean to offend but we all need to pull are heads out of our a**'s and understand the enemy.we are faceing the most greedy corrupt people on the planet who have unlimited resource's. it cant be done buy sitting in a park smokin weed they need to be removed and laws changed term limits given and corperate influance removed ond outlawed. “Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win.”"I’d say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected.
ty for responding. this is my point all these people show up in support of smoking pot which is good because #1 it’s ridiculous to ban nature
#2 it’s only being used to enslave us
and the list can go on ,but why when you have a chance to do it right no one has the time.if we want change we are going to have to work hard at it. the powers that be are deadly serius about enslaving us,and have billions of dollor’s to do it.now you guy’s in keen have an exellent oppertunity to make a change and it’s not just the mayor’s office that needs to be ran for. how about running for sheriff that is the most powerfull possision which require’s a clean record i’m sure.and buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in town. yes you should have the right to smoke weed,but there are those that dont want the recless behavior that comes with it.this just give the enslaver’s more power.that energey would be more effective getting more people with clean records elected. that is the only way change is gonna happen. these people in power now don’t care how many people get put in jail it’s all money to them. prisons get paid on how many beds are filled. and i don’t mean to offend but we all need to pull are heads out of our a**’s and understand the enemy.we are faceing the most greedy corrupt people on the planet who have unlimited resource’s. it cant be done buy sitting in a park smokin weed they need to be removed and laws changed term limits given and corperate influance removed ond outlawed.

]]> By: PaulO http://freekeene.com/2009/12/14/the-city-of-keenes-hall-of-shame/comment-page-2/#comment-85732 PaulO Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:52:28 +0000 http://freekeene.com/?p=4414#comment-85732 <q cite="">to all the activist out there how about instead of getting arrested run for office and change the laws</q> Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win. Ian attempted to run for Mayor. People that come to this website try different approaches to gain liberty. So far, it would appear civil disobedience has had the biggest effect. How many people were smoking marijuana during the 420 events? Although there were arrests made, I'd say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected. And Rich actually tasted a little bit of liberty, as did many of the others at the events. Another example: A large group went to a rally at the statehouse last winter in support of the sovereignty bill. When it didn't pass, a few of the supporters boo'd the legislators. Some of the crowd were open carrying guns. The reward for this attempt to work within the system is now guns are not allowed at the state house. That attempt to work within the system has actually restricted liberty. Now, I'm not going to say, "Don't try to work within the system." I think everyone should try to do whatever they think is best as the motivation and energy will come easier if you're following what you believe in. And who knows, maybe it is possible to get more people elected to the state house and really fight those attempting to curb the liberties of the people of New Hampshire. to all the activist out there how about instead of getting arrested run for office and change the laws

Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win. Ian attempted to run for Mayor. People that come to this website try different approaches to gain liberty. So far, it would appear civil disobedience has had the biggest effect. How many people were smoking marijuana during the 420 events? Although there were arrests made, I’d say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected. And Rich actually tasted a little bit of liberty, as did many of the others at the events.

Another example: A large group went to a rally at the statehouse last winter in support of the sovereignty bill. When it didn’t pass, a few of the supporters boo’d the legislators. Some of the crowd were open carrying guns. The reward for this attempt to work within the system is now guns are not allowed at the state house. That attempt to work within the system has actually restricted liberty.

Now, I’m not going to say, “Don’t try to work within the system.” I think everyone should try to do whatever they think is best as the motivation and energy will come easier if you’re following what you believe in. And who knows, maybe it is possible to get more people elected to the state house and really fight those attempting to curb the liberties of the people of New Hampshire.

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