158 Years In Cages

June 27, 2010 by Bradley Jardis
Filed under: Personal Freedom

Society as we know it is crumbling to the ground with the examples of lawlessness I observed at PorcFest 2010. In total I saw/was made aware of examples that would accumulate at least up to 158 years in cages… were the maximum sentence be given for all the “crimes” I personally witnessed. Imagine all the “crimes” that were happening that I didn’t personally witnessed/was made aware of. The hubris of some people…

How I calculated 158 years:

- An unlicensed chiropractor (who serviced thirty people… see the comments) = Thirty years in a cage.
- An unlicensed performance of hairstyling = One year in a cage.
- An unlicensed massage therapist = One year in a cage.
- Five different unlicensed liquor sales = Thirty five years in a cage.
- An unlicensed tattoo artist (who serviced at least twenty people) = Twenty years in a cage.
- Two people exchanging money for a plant = Fourteen years in a cage.
- About twenty to thirty people selling various items = Twenty to thirty years in a cage.
- About twenty people playing cards for money = Twenty years in a cage.
- One convicted felon carrying a pocket knife = Seven years in a cage.
- At least ten people smoking Marijuana openly = Ten years in a cage.

Not a single person was harmed. No one was forced to do anything. Putting anyone of these peaceful people in a cage would be harming someone who has harmed no one else. That is what the state does.

I don’t support that, do you?

http://dailyanarchist.com Seth

But what about the children!?!?!
Paul

Great post.
Josh

Bradley,

I whole heartedly agree with everything here being victimless in nature, and would support that we need to get those laws off the books except for that of the unlicensed chiropractor.

A chiropractor performs adjustments to your body, which if done improperly can cause major problems and possible paralysis. Anyone who advertises themself as a doctor of anything and isn't educated to such, is putting people at risk. This isn't the same as if you or I went to a friend and asked them to perform an adjustment, we would know they are unlicensed and make an informed decision of our own free will to accept the risk.

The state shouldn't regulate our free will to get a friend or any other person to perform such actions, but if someone calls themselves "Doctor" and puts a citizen under the frame of mind that they are a chiropractor and have attended several years of schooling to learn proper techniques, they deserve every last day of that 12 months for the fraud on the public.
Bradley Jardis

Josh,

I agree with you that an untrained individual doing spinal adjustments is a danger. This is why I would not go to see anyone who was not certified and properly trained.

Absent the coercive monopoly… Private certification would rule the day.

If someone wanted to exchange their money to have an untrained or uncertified person perform such delicate work on their spinal cord… who are we to stop them?
Bradley Jardis

Of all entities that should be certifying people… The state is the least efficient to do so.

It has no liability and nothing to lose if someone it certified is reckless or incompetent. A private certification firm on the other hand, would go out of business.
PaulO

An unlicensed chiropractor shouldn't be that scary to you. Are you that worried about food cooked by your neighbor even if he's unlicensed? You know poorly prepared food can be dangerous, right?

How about the unlicensed liquor sales? Who knows what's in the bottle then?

What about unlicensed gun owners? I think gun owners are potentially much more dangerous than chiropractors.

My point is, there is dangerous stuff all around us. I don't think the AMA and state governments have a monopoly on the best ideas for healthcare quality controls, and they do play a large role in escalating healthcare costs.
http://www.nolanchart.com/author677.html Chaz Munro

There are literally hundreds of thousands of dangerous "gun owners" out there that are a menace to the public.

You can easily identify them by the badges pinned to their shirts.
The pooch lady

Hey Josh, you are assuming that just because he or she is an unlicensed person they do not have training in chiropractic medicine. A license is just a piece of paper issued by the state. There can be many reasons why a person would choose not to send money to the state for approval to practice.
Josh

To the above responses. My assumption was based upon no chiropractic training, I had said above that if they put the person under the frame of mind that they had no training.

Gun owners are not dangerous, it is their actions which are dangerous. A persons choice to do evil things with their gun, with or without a badge and license issued by the state should not impead another persons right to protect themselves and their family.

Liquor sales, require a use of common sense, are you going to buy an unsealed bottle from someone? If you do, then you made a choice yourself to do so. Make your decision on how well you may know and trust the person, just as you would when you buy lets say a used car or buy a boat from someone.

Again, a state shouldn't impede it's resident's right of free will to make decisions. I simply think that if someone calls themselves "Doctor", a title conferred by education, not by medical license. The state issued license is a license to practice, not one granting a title. If someone is commiting fraud upon the public, then the state has a duty to act and protect the public from such fraud, without impeding free will of decisions, such as if I choose to drive my car without insurance and incur the liability of such actions or if I choose to receive an adjustment from a friend or other party offering such services while clearly stating they are NOT a doctor.

I agree with Bradley, private organizations would do a better job in managing a certification organizations probably in a similiar fashion to how an IT professional's certification is issued. Such as a CCIE or CISSP.

PaulO, I agree concerning healthcare costs and if I choose to receive medical care from an untrained professional, that is my business not the states. However if you goto someone expecting them to have 4 years of medical school, and an 8 year residency before they operate on your brain, and they have not done so, and misrepresented themselves you were not able to make an informed decision and exercise your free will in an honest capacity. That is not a victimless crime then.
Paul

I agree, fraud's a real crime. If someone lies about what they're selling — in this case their education/expertise, they should refund their customer's money and make restitution for any further damage caused.

But, as you say, if you want to choose an uneducated person to do a procedure, that's your right.
Bradley Jardis

But, as you say, if you want to choose an uneducated person to do a procedure, that’s your right.

Precisely as I feel.

I do not doubt that the individual performing the chiropractic adjustments has some training or knowledge in that regard… I personally was just unwilling to subject my spine to adjustments by someone who was not thoroughly trained.

The statue does not just preclude someone from calling themselves "Doctor" … it precludes someone from "hold(ing) oneself out as qualified to practice chiropractic(.)"

The person performing the adjustments very well may have been qualified to practice chiropractic. In fact, I bet you that he was.

I just personally wouldn't allow someone to practice on me who hadn't completed the rigorous schooling that is required. That's my choice. Someone else should absolutely have the choice of spending less money for someone with less training.
Bradley Jardis

The law is quite harsh. I mean if a Chiropractor signs their name:

Bradley Jardis, Doctor

That is enough to put them in jail for a year. Really.

"Doctor (name of chiropractor), chiropractor" is what the statue demands for signing one's name.
http://www.LCLReport.com Tarrin

Wow great post, my ears were burning. I guess if it was a year in a cage per adjustment you better ad 30 more years to that count.

I whole hearty agree. Fraud is the real issue. I could care less if you teach a monkey to ring someones neck and charge for it. If someone will pay for monkey chiropractic and they know what they are getting into so be it. The only issue I would have is if someone lies about their training or skill level.

The doctors themselves are the first ones to freak out about competition. They are jealous they have to make so much sacrifice to get that magic piece of paper they turn others over to the government, not the patients. I don't see how throwing money at the state each year to beg fr their permission to make money somehow makes me a better doctor. So I refused to do it a few years back and have not looked back.

On a side note, I am one of the only doctors I know who OPENLY practices illegally. Most docs are scared shitless of their board and have a ton to lose. I think they leave me alone because it is not cost effective. I don't care about their license and really have very little to lose. They know I would cause a media shit storm of negative press if they go after me, I would take it all the way and cost the board as much as I could in legal fees.

This is the way to encourage others to break out of the system and live free. Almost all black market services avoided being public and kept underground. I am trying to encourage other to stop that. Have some courage and practice openly and defiantly. Simple copy nature, A bright yellow toad is easily seen by predictors but is never eaten because they are poisonous. Let the state know you are too poisonous to mess with and they will just leave you alone.

Great post Bradley
http://www.shirephotography.com Anton Lee

Great post Brad. Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you. You seemed so busy the whole time! My fiance was offering hairstyling for a low price. She is actually state licensed and put that license at risk by performing haircuts outside. Why? She is not a "salon owner" and therefore can't perform these functions.

Is it safety? They'll tell you all the evil germs and diseases people can get by spreading lice and other things from one person's head to another. This is part of the reason, I believe, that the laws were made in the first place. Picture an old western barber shop, cutting hair of dirty cowboys and then transferring that filth to others. When someone yelled "there ought to be a law" there ended up being one. The laws survive because of the status quo and because of protectionism. I couldn't be prouder of my girl providing her trade to others for a cost and leaving the government out of it. I'm even prouder that she did so live on Dave Ridley's camera, spouting out that she was doing nothing wrong, the person getting the haircutting was happy with what they got, no diseases were transferred (she even brought barbasol to sterilize all her equipment after each person).

But the state didn't get what they wanted. Obedience. My girl could lose her job, our livlihood, possibly our home, maybe even her freedom!
Bradley Jardis

Wow great post, my ears were burning. I guess if it was a year in a cage per adjustment you better ad 30 more years to that count.

I changed the blog to read 138 years in a cage. Thanks bro

The doctors themselves are the first ones to freak out about competition.

Who advocates that the training given to cosmetologists be upped? The beauty school lobby, of course
Bradley Jardis

Great post Brad. Sorry I didn’t get a chance to meet you.

Thank you sir… and I am sorry we didn't get a chance to meet

But the state didn’t get what they wanted. Obedience. My girl could lose her job, our livlihood, possibly our home, maybe even her freedom!

I added an additional year in a cage for her "crime." That is assuming she only serviced one person. Each person she dared trim their hair she'd be subject to an additional year in a cage for. We're up to 139 years.
Bradley Jardis

Actually, we're up to 158 years. I remember asking someone about the unlicensed tattoo provider as I wanted to get my tattoo (of a dove, my totem animal) re-colored as some of it had faded. I was told that the provider had over 20 people already booked and that she could make no more appointments.

20 separate offenses is 20 crimes.
bil

So where can I find one of these hair-cutting,tattooing untrained monkey chiropractors?? A one-stop shop and no money to the state! I could maybe even barter for bananas! The whole weekend sounds sort of like a medieval market day,where everyone managed to get what they wanted/needed without the largesse of government.What a concept! —bil
Mark

Bradley, are these charges hypothetical in that the cops were NOT busting people? Were on-duty police in attendance? If so, why?

But no I don't agree with locking people up for most crimes, unless there is a verifiable victim.

I was not able to attend as I am still in Washington state, according to my plan I will be out there living next year.
Bradley Jardis

Bradley, are these charges hypothetical in that the cops were NOT busting people? Were on-duty police in attendance? If so, why?

Hypothetical.

Police drove through a couple of times on routine patrol. They never stopped to "investigate" the lawlessness… Although, they could have.

And it is true that people rarely get the maximum sentence for their "crimes"… I just felt that it would be a good contrast to show precisely what the state could do to people who haven't harmed anyone else.