Police Heartlessness

July 24, 2010 by Bradley Jardis
Filed under: Police, Thuggery, Video

A Free Keene reader has sent me a link to a rather disturbing video which is posted on a site called BLUtube, a site collecting police related videos and an apparent frequent hangout for police officers.

In the video a man being chased by the police blows his head off with a shotgun. The suicide is captured by a helicopter’s FLIR (infrared) camera as the incident happened at night. The video is titled “Suspect w/ shotgun, Good clean fun” and is submitted by a BLUtube participant calling himself “sergeanthulka555″ (a name which to me indicates he is either a member of the military or law enforcement).

I think our fellow FK reader is right on when he pointed out to me that the title of the video and the comments left by people most likely involved in the policing profession aptly show a lack of respect for human life. Whatever crime this man committed, he is a human being… and should be respected as such.

Here are some of the comments I felt were very disturbing:

Resistance
12/15/2009 8:32:04 AM

well that is just excellent. takes care of that problem quite nicely

imartinez116
12/8/2008 2:34:39 PM

haha!!!!!! rest in pieces, ***bag.

ofcknight
10/23/2008 3:19:32 PM

Cool….They should all do that.

william56671
10/21/2008 5:12:11 PM

damn…good shot…shoulda been a sniper.

exmarshal
10/21/2008 11:35:18 AM

LOL.. suspect down… i wonder if CPR would have worked on him

Your thoughts?

mackler

sickos
http://www.obscuredtruth.com Sam Dodson

I posted a police video on bluetube about a year ago. They pulled it down and kicked me off. This is a forum for cops and cop worshipers.
http://thinkingliberty.net bile

A mixture of being a sociopath and John Gabriel's "Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory"
theKINGofKEENE

…"manifesting an extreme disregard and indifference to human life"…////"…just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners, saints"…1 quote from the Rolling Stones, "Sympathy For the Devil", the other quote printed by the Sentinel from a felony indictment for "murder by arson" story. <-(that's my wording on that last one) Interestingly, the 1989 fire on High St. here in Keene, that killed a family of 4, was investigated by, drum roll please, FREDDY PARSELLS!…I wonder if Freddy is only incompetent, or also CULPABLE???…Of course, the BLUtube video was "shot"(pun intended) in San Diego. Pandering to POLICE BLOOD-LUST, such as we here in NH are suffering under, only makes this trend worse. Cops are the biggest single group pushing *FOR* the "death penalty"(StateMurder). This blood-lust leads directly to a lack of respect for persons. Why are any of you surprised by these facts??? What next? Are the Keene cops just gonna blow away some guy who is only holding a knife? Why, or why not? Nothing like that would ever happen here in Keene, would it? Sure, it's easy enough to ask these Q's?, but not so easy to ANSWER them,is it? PEACE, my friends!~tKoK~.
Concerned Citezin

It makes you wonder who's life these cops care about? If they are trained to be this cold blooded and heartless who can protect citizens from these monsters?
Bradley Jardis

It makes you wonder who’s life these cops care about? If they are trained to be this cold blooded and heartless who can protect citizens from these monsters?

No one can protect you from people with the "legal" authorization to use any amount of force necessary to enforce "the law."
Maat

Fucked. Sociopaths. We should all feel safer…that they're…rolling past our homes…heavily armed…and armored…while we sleep.

If it's any cosolation, Sergeant Hulka was a character from the movie "Stripes" that Bill Murray failed to take seriously. Mostly because he was a brainwashed military sociopath ;^)
http://peteeyre.com Pete Eyre

While it's right to vilify the individuals who posted the video and left such disturbing comments (personal responsibility is paramount) we should not loose sight of the fact that it is the institution for which they work that creates these perverse incentives.

If there was not an institution that many folks believed had a "legitimate" monopoly on the use of force many of the rights-violations we rightly highlight would not occur. Knowing that they individually are responsible for their actions and aren't shielded by the thin blue line, testilying, internal investigations, sovereign immunity or civilian review boards, would have a much more pervasive impact.

We could spend all day every day going after corrupt or heavy-handed cops but the only sure way to mitigate the harm caused by such thugs is to eliminate the provision of "law enforcement" by State agents.

Strike the root.
http://mises.org/store/Enterprise-of-Law-The-Just…
anarchy forever

Let's take this one level deeper.

If the "STATE" was gone, and there was no legitimization structure for this type of person to hide behind, these people would band together and be the "road warrior" type that would come storming through the camps of peaceful people… raping, killing, and pillaging.

You'll never change the psychopath. You can only work with others to bring about the changes in the way we interact with others that this website is working towards. That would go a long way to make things the best they can be.
Sam A. Robrin

I tend to agree with Buffy Ste. Marie:

He's five-foot-two, and he's six-foot-four,

He fights with missiles and with spears.

He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,

He's been a soldier for a thousand years.

He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain,

A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.

And he knows he shouldn't kill,

And he knows he always will,

Kill you for me, my friend, and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,

He's fighting for France,

He's fighting for the USA,

And he's fighting for the Russians,

And he's fighting for Japan,

And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for Democracy,

He's fighting for the Reds,

He says it's for the peace of all.

He's the one who must decide,

Who's to live and who's to die,

And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,

How would Hitler have condemned him at Labau?

Without him Caesar would have stood alone,

He's the one who gives his body

As a weapon of the war,

And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,

His orders come from far away no more,

They come from here and there and you and me,

And brothers can't you see,

This is not the way we put an end to war.
Bradley Jardis

That's a beautiful song Sam…. and soldier is easily replacable with "law enforcement officer."
k

good video you folks should learn from it assholes
Bradley Jardis

K,

I'm sorry you feel such disregard for human life… and feel the need to imply that we should learn from someone blowing his head off. I don't know if you mean that we should have our heads blown off with shotguns or something else by that comment.

We at FK are people who believe that the -initiation- of violence is never an acceptable solution to solving problems. That's really all there is to it.

Even though you exhibit a lack of respect for human life, an apparent acceptance of the police being so callous towards it, and a lack of respect for our having an opinion: I respect your opinions and your life. I just wish you'd come to understand and advocate the message of peace we believe in.

- B
http://peteeyre.com Pete Eyre

K – really? And why is that exactly? Because some of us may advocate different views than you do? We should cease to be alive because of that?

At what point do the views we advocate diverge too much from your own to warrant our deaths?

What if you were to see your son or sister or best friend among us? Would you still be so nonchalant about the value of an individual's life?

Let's have an open, constructive conversation please.
Bradley Jardis

Pete,

The mentality that is most prevalent amongst those who work in the policing profession (and those who are their friends) is that everything is acceptable, so long as it happens to other people.

The second any of these heartless people felt the wrath of the destructive policies they advocate—- everything changes. It's different then. It's personal.
FREE.FEDtheKINGofKEE

…it's only EVER personal, Bradley. You know that….///…Marshall McLuhann(sp?): "The political is personal. The personal is political"…///…Welcome back, Sam A. Robrin! good to see you recently, my friend! Um, did you "bobble" Buffy's lyrics intentionally?…HITLER/LABAU???WTF???…please give us Arlo Guthries' '"When a Soldier Makes it Home" ,OK???…it's about RUSSKIES in the AFGHANISTAN, circa late 1970's-early 1980's…///…anybody bothered to actually research this incident???… what if our now-headless friend was an escaped child-rapist, bent on raping kids again???…would you still feel just as bad for him???…just wondering…///…"You don't win wars by dying for your country. No, you win wars by making the other guy die for his." sez THIS SOUL-JER!…EAT SHIT & DIE, CHI-COM SCUM! HOO-AH/SEMPER FI….
KEENENATIVE

When the Manchester police – many if not most in UNFORM, correct? – pack the Courtroom for the trial of that cop-killer from Mass., aren't they rooting to see STATE MURDER? Isn't that exactly what Jeanne Shaheen, in vetoing the General Courts' anti-"death penalty" bill, has left us with? Isn't STATE MURDER exactly what then-NH Attorney General Kelly Ayotte has left us with? How can ANY rational and reasonable and sane person actively advocate for STATE MURDER? It's one thing for me to type rhetorical words here, as a form of inter-personal conversation. Even if I actually DID ADVOCATE STATE MURDER, my words here are still only just talk – FREE SPEECH. NOBODY's words advocating STATE MURDER should ever be part of anybody's official duties. Sorry, folks. As vile and detestable as these cops comments are, I for one citizen would rather KNOW, if cops think this way. I hate to imagine a world in which cops hate me and want to kill me, but I don't know that fact. It is some small bit better that I live in a world in which cops do want to hurt and kill me. Hey, at least I know. Forewarned is forearmed. Why is it so hard for YOU PEOPLE to easily imagine a world in which there exists no desire or need for killing? A world free of killing exists in my mind. I am so, so sorry it does not exist in your mind. Truly, you are thus MENTALLY ILL. (You're mentally ill if you believe killing is necessary. So yes, Senator Jeanne Shaheen, Kelly Ayotte, and all those Manchester cops are MENTALLY ILL. So is the cop killer. So what? they should all be locked up?…
KEENENATIVE

TO: k: OK, I admit I am an asshole. Now, YOU please tell ME exactly what it is that you think I should learn from this video. I'm waiting, you asshole- licking puss-slurper. I guess k has a lower case, single letterhead. I've got ALPHABETS and DICTIONARIES in my head. Too bad for you, k.,…..///…..Bradley Jardis: How much did you say FREEKEENE blog is paying you to wordfight us netizen bloggers???…Where's my share???…////……How is cops creaming their bluejeans over an online video suicide any different from spectating at a STATE MURDER planning session("trial")???…..it IS the SAME THING, to my way of thinking…
Bradley Jardis

Bradley Jardis: How much did you say FREEKEENE blog is paying you to wordfight us netizen bloggers???

Oh, shit man… Ian's paying me top dollar to blog here
Ben

Bradley, I'm a bit confused by the nature of this post, or more precisely the motivation behind framing it as you have. The net is vast and infinite; it is inevitable that you will find evidence of people from all walks of life (be they police, teachers, politicians, children, veterinarians, etc.) behaving in ways you believe to "show a lack of respect for human life." This is an inevitable product of freedom of speech, amplified by the possibility of anonymous speech in the virtual domain. Point being, it would be just as easy to find a video of a public school teacher beating a disobedient student into submission. Further, a search of the comments on said video would no doubt reveal 'people most likely involved in the teaching profession' making comments along the lines of, "well that is just excellent. takes care of that problem quite nicely." Now I would ask – what would be the effect of posting such a video with the title, "Public Educator Heartlessness?" It strikes me that the most obvious effect is to demonize public educators at large. The same effect seems present here, i.e. the demonization of police at large. This sets off a red flag for me, as one of the primary political strategies for convincing population "A" to treat population "B" inhumanely (typically to visit violence upon) is to make "A" view "B" as less than human; i.e. to demonize "B." So, while I do not take argument with the title of your blog posting, I would question your motivation in posting this entry with said title in this forum, as I do not believe it to be in the best interest of the FK movement to appear to support the demonization of police. If we wish to find common ground with a group we believe to have different values from our own, I would suggest we instead focus on our shared humanity.

p.s. Thank you for all your hard work; I really enjoy the large part of your contributions to this blog! (Especially advice on interacting with police!)

p.p.s. I am not advocating public schools!
Bradley Jardis

Ben,

Thanks for reading FK and commenting… and thank you for your compliments

Bradley, I’m a bit confused by the nature of this post, or more precisely the motivation behind framing it as you have. The net is vast and infinite; it is inevitable that you will find evidence of people from all walks of life (be they police, teachers, politicians, children, veterinarians, etc.) behaving in ways you believe to “show a lack of respect for human life.”

That is true… there are people everywhere who show a lack of respect for human life.

I'd ask that you take notice of the fact that there is only ONE particular profession where the employees have the authority to TAKE human life. The US Supreme Court considers killing someone a seizure under the 4th Amendment…. ie: killing someone is a constitutionally regulated government act.

As there is only one profession which is allowed to "seize" someones life right out from their body… what I am trying to say is that people should expect and demand that the people who are vested with this "authority" should be the ones who have the MOST respect for human life.

Sadly, I don't believe this is even close to the state of reality.

Now I would ask – what would be the effect of posting such a video with the title, “Public Educator Heartlessness?” It strikes me that the most obvious effect is to demonize public educators at large.

My intent for posting this video was to show the callousness that law enforcement officers seem to have no problem exposing to the public regarding their thoughts of the sanctity of human life. I'm willing to bet quite a few of the commenters or the poster him/herself is a law enforcement officer. (Look at the their nicknames… and even look at the one commenter who's avatar is a picture of himself sitting in a police cruiser.)

The same effect seems present here, i.e. the demonization of police at large.

This is generally the mentality of the police at large. I know this from personal experience.

Right after I was in the newspaper swan-diving my career into oblivion with the hopes that the article would reach people and help them advocate harm-reduction policies to save lives…. a man in the jurisdiction I worked died of a heroin overdose. Right in front of me one of my former bosses made fun of me, the guy who died, and what I believed in by mocking my article… claiming that the guy would be alive if heroin was legal. Joking about a man who died because of a sickness (drug addiction) is pretty heartless in my opinion.

My former boss exhibited his ignorance of the drug issue by making this statement. It upset me… so I went into his office and told him that statistics prove that if heroin WERE legal less people would die from needless overdoses. Less fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters dead in the ground.

His response? "I don't care about statistics." A rather heartless statement to make when talking about saving lives… wouldn't you say?

So, while I do not take argument with the title of your blog posting, I would question your motivation in posting this entry with said title in this forum, as I do not believe it to be in the best interest of the FK movement to appear to support the demonization of police.

I respect that… and it makes sense.

I am trying to show FK's readers the opinion of a former law enforcement officer. I'm trying to show them how police think. There may be many people who read FK who believe we/I am nuts. Through evidence and repeated case-making… I (and I am sure other bloggers here) are trying to show the coldness that the state enforcement regime represents.

If we wish to find common ground with a group we believe to have different values from our own, I would suggest we instead focus on our shared humanity.

Very good point…. and I thank you for making it.

Perhaps I was too hard on law enforcement as a whole… but it is my personal opinion that law enforcement as a whole is heartless regarding what they're doing. Whereas I may be upsetting some police officers by posting this… I may be enlightening some non-police officers as to precisely how the people they're forced to pay for (and have the authority to kill them) think. I'm hoping that this makes them go and helps them consider alternative solutions to the state monopoly on violence.

Does that make sense?

p.s. Thank you for all your hard work; I really enjoy the large part of your contributions to this blog! (Especially advice on interacting with police!)

Thank you again for your compliment… and the critique. I promise to absorb it