What would you do? What ARE you doing?

9 Comments on What would you do? What ARE you doing?

Dennis on Mon, 6th Sep 2010 4:47 pm


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Ian, you did NOT specify if these people are “PLANTS”. Are they REAL people in distress.
Twice I’ve been situations that were REAL, not drama tele.
First was a woman in ’87 that was naked laying in a lawn in Claremont..she was, as it turned out to be, attempted raped, and upon non co-operation, thrown from the back of a truck. Left there..scared as hell.
Being a cab driver, I radioed the POLICE,( the ones you hate so vehemently.. sucking up tax dollars) remember them.
The POLICE saved her life.
But, I’m sure you think that as wasting tax dollars.
2nd in ’89, a man beating on his “girlfriend”, next door to my flat.
HE WAS STONED. POT!!!! Yeah, pot, drugs. fancy that.
I called the POLICE, that you so vehemently hate.

Again, I’m sure you think this was a waste of tax dollars……unless the victims paid ahead of time for police services voluntarily.
By calling the POLICE twice, I saved two people, on YOUR and MY tax dollars. Well, not yours, as you weren’t in NH then.
How did the drinking game go on Sept 2nd? I see no postings on FREEKEENE.COM about your success.


bil on Mon, 6th Sep 2010 9:15 pm


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Only Sam had a ‘beer’,one sneaked sip,no-one important noticed.Kind of quiet. —bil


trippwhyre on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 2:44 am


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Nice video. There are several factors that influence people “not to get involved”.
1) We have been trained to let “professionals” do EVERYTHING! You’re depressed? Don’t wasted your friends’ and family’s time! See a therapist. You’re fat? See a nutritionist. And don’t forget to follow your doctor’s ORDERS! Doctors, as we all know, are infallible, honest, and altruistic.
If someone is being attacked, we are trained to let the police handle it. If someone needs medical attention, we are trained to let doctors and other medical people handle it.
2) We live in a litigation society. Everyone sues for everything.
3) We live an a misandristic (anti-male) society. Most people don’t realize that, but it’s true. Take rape for example. Women are always believed when they cry rape. No evidence need be provided. Accused men are assumed to be guilty in the media and the legal system. Check out falserapesociety.com .
The point is, because of this mindset, and false accusations from children too, many men steer clear of women and children that they don’t know out of sheer survival necessity.


Paul on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 3:01 am


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Dennis, I would love it if police would focus on helping those who need it, and stopping those who harm others.

I also think police services would be far more efficient and effective if people were free to choose which service to use, which is the basis of real accountability.

You’re either being dishonest here, or somehow completely missing it, because you’re severely misrepresenting the argument pro-freedom folks are making. I might fund a legitimate service — like providing people with good food — with extortion. That doesn’t make the extortion ok. I should continue to provide the service, but acquire funding in a better way.

I’m glad you called the police, and these are valuable services. It doesn’t follow that they need to be supplied by a monopoly, and funded by threatening to steal people’s homes.


Paul on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 4:05 am


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Great video by the way, very revealing.


PaulO on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 6:48 am


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Good video.

I realized I was one of the sheeple when I was living in NYC. The specific incident was watching someone struggle to get into the subway as the door had closed on them. Normally you’re not “supposed” to open the doors when they start closing as it slows down the subways and, if it lasts long enough, can slow down the line somewhat. I had watched many times as people, most of them tourists I would guess, had trouble with the doors closing on them.

So I watched a person struggle and struggle to get on then was only able to frustratedly slip out. Then as the subway pulled away I realized I was a capable man and could have easily walked over and pulled the doors open allowing them on and the subway to leave. So from then on when I was in a position to help, I did without hesitation. I like to think I still do.

Dennis, I don’t think you were listening to the video. It is more common for people to help when there isn’t a crowd. If there’s one guy walking down the road and he comes across someone hurt, he’ll probably help. If that same person comes across someone hurt on a busy sidewalk, he is less likely to help.

I also love how you call it a “drama tele”. If you had been paying attention, the video referred to it as “diffusion of responsibility” but it’s also called by other names like “bystander apathy” or “groupthink”. Feel free to look up the mountain of disturbing scientific evidence about it, and about altruists too. But hey, what does science prove with it’s silly little experiments? You’ve got your anecdotal evidence that doesn’t really even apply to the principle being talked about, but can’t let that get in the way of a desperate attempt to catch Ian in a “gotcha”, right?


Lpviper on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 8:41 am


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Dennis is a douche rod and will only reappear to make another baseless claim that libertarians are tyrants and go do your homework, when he hasn’t even read ‘The Market for Liberty’.


Bradley Jardis on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 9:41 am


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… to make another baseless claim that libertarians are tyrants …

Isn’t that like claiming vegetarians eat too many cows?


david on Tue, 7th Sep 2010 10:08 am


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I wonder about the editing of the videos where the people just walked by
plus maybe some of those people called the ambulance
I know in the city seeing people lying on the street is more common
so one wouldn’t think it as weird there

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