FK Blogger Brad Jardis Talks to a NH Drug Warrior

This is video from the Concord 420 event held on 4/20/2010 at the NH statehouse. It contains an interview from a medical cannabis patient, and Brad wonders off to engage state trooper Chris Carter who was quoted a month earlier on WMUR supporting the drug war.

Unfortunately state policeman Chris Carder, doesn’t seem to understand the lessons learned from the prohibition of alcohol. What blinds people to he reality their actions create?

29 Comments

  1. Outstanding conversation.

    Suppose they passed jim crow again, or slavery? Would this man enforce it?

    This "just my job" excuse needs to go. You are responsible for your own behaviors, and that responsibility does not disappear because you receive a paycheck.

  2. Mr. Carder seems like an okay guy, someone you could chat up at a bbq while chowing down on chili dogs, burgers and soda pop.

    I hope that his police work reflects his apparent persona by limiting his pursuit to crimes that have victims i.e. murder, theft, assault, rape, trespass, kidnapping, etc.

  3. A+ Brad! Great work. I am sure you will get through to many police on the message of liberty.

  4. What an astounding display of closed mindedness (that's clunky) and a complete refusal of independent thought in pursuit of money, money stolen from other innocents.

    I'm glad you talked to this guy, Brad. It is clear that he was giving the answers that will preserve his employment and rank and stature within his criminal organization.

    It is also clear that a bell cannot be unrung, and that guy got the full treatment. Nice work.

    Ian, the bullhorn…oh, well. At least the content was good

  5. I saw this happen in the 60's. Nothing became of it, but thanks for the flashback. You guys do great comedy.

  6. Really Dennis? How old are you? What exactly did you see happen in the 60's that compares to this?

  7. yes Dennis, please wise old one, tell us how it used to be.

  8. I am also curious as to how the current form of activism corresponds to what happened in the late 60's. Mostly because the people who were the shakers and movers then died out, or became part of the machine itself. I wish to learn from these previous mistakes in order to make actual change and progress towards peace.

  9. Nice Cotton Advertisement on the WMUR video. The Fabric of our life. Yeah the fabric of the establishments life. Hemp Clothes last 10 times longer than cotton clothes.

    My buddy used to sell over an oz of cocaine a day.

    "A substantial amount"

    Yeah Right. I have seen that much go through my buddy's hands in a weekend.

  10. lots of cops use "discretion" all the time

    that cops used HIS discretion and didn't go arrest anyone

    I guess my point is that cops are people like the one in this video

    and there are lots of cool guys that are cops and this cop seems like one.

    Even i bet he'd be cool to have a beer with .

    I don't know.

    I guess I'm saying cops are people too.

    And there are other cops that need the talk more than this nice one did.

    But it was a good talk

    there are way worse ones than this one

    Actually this one was very good

    I like staties better anyway

  11. Yes, their hats are finer, to be sure…

  12. Sam (Miller) Dodson "Peace , Pot and Microdot."
    Lots of folk had the same idea from Haight, and Ashbury, San Fransisco…. In California.
    This was the hub of anti-government and loads of people moved there….then went broke, as they had no jobs, were stoners, and housing with no income was difficult to deal with.
    I'm sure you kids didn't live through this.
    Burning bras, ( I didn't mention you Heika, take it easy) was another act of defiance. Burning draft cards, (Selective Service registration certificates), defiance of Gov't.
    As you lot like to have it, ANY country will have free reign on repeating the Sept. 11, 2001 incident and you will have nothing better to say than "I'm not paying for this."…..Provided you are still alive.

    Renniks, as you are just a brainwashed stoner, your point of questioning is not made. Replay.
    Anton Lee, You relish my wisdom!
    It's called experience, (no I will ot give out my personal information to you or anyone else) as compared to being brainwashed to believe what you really do not believe, just so you can 'fit into a group', as you have no redeeming value to your life.

  13. @Dennis, I am curious as to how you know who or what I am. No ill will was meant to be transferred in my post. It is unfortunate that you perceived it this way. Perhaps I need to work more on my communication skills.

    From your response as to the comparison to the activism in the 60's and today, it seems you believe that the movement died out then because of a lack of work ethic on the part of the activist of that time. That is good to know as the super majority of the activists I know both hold down full time employment and are extremely hard workers. I do take some issue with your belief that foreign attacks are more likely on a peaceful nation than on one with an active military, but perhaps we shall save that discussion for a later time. Thank you for your response and enjoy your day.

  14. A 20 year old kid has NO IDEA what is going on in the world!!!!!!
    I haven't seen any ad campaigns on tele, nor have I seen local media adverts.
    I've READ a post from Ian, who IS a free Keener, about Andrew. Which makes him , an Involuntary member of the lot,or a part of the group. Guilty by association.
    Free Keene and free State are about deception.
    The only references they provide will be from their site or from youtube, which is free.
    Hence FREE KEENE.

  15. Renniks. (Skinner) are you telling me, and the rest of this lot, IF another attack were to happen, you'd just blow it off?

    I hope not!

    If we were a 'peaceful nation', gave up our arms, and decided that was the best way to go, we'd be doomed.

    I, as an American can say safely, I am PROUD OUR OUR DEFENSE system.

    I know several folks that have put their life on the line, just so you and the Free Keene lot can say they don't like paying for it.

    BUT, you're FREE to say it.

    The freedom you seek is already here.

  16. Dennis,

    The freedom I seek isn't already here. But if you need to lie to yourself to sleep at night, I can't stop you.

    If your defense system was so great, you wouldn't need to kidnap cage and kill people who refuse to pay it, so your proud system can blow up innocent women and children.

    I cannot to say that "I don't have to pay my government to kill innocent men women and children, because I am free" Because if I refuse to pay for the slaughter of innocent men, women and children I will be put in prison or killed, if I resist being put in one of it's rape cages, for the sin of "tax evasion."

    If another attack like 9.11.01 were to happen I would call it blow back.

  17. Dennis,

    Congrats on deciphering my codename, My big secret is out now :-P.

    I put very little, to no stock in the notion of "American" or "Our Defense". I do not know what definition of these things you are referring to. Are you responsible for my defense? Am I to yours?

    It is my humble opinion that I and only I am responsible for all my wants, needs, and desires. To put the burden of my safety upon someone else would seem irresponsible and selfish. It is true that people employed by the government have died in the course of their duties, but I have not asked them to die for me. Nor have I asked them to complete their duties on my behalf. Am I responcible for their actions collectively? Are you?

    I do not recall in my previous statements to have claimed that I encourage the giving up of ones means of self defense (arms). That seems just as irrational as forcing others to bear the burden of my protection. If I have made such a comment I whole heartily admit my error and retract it.

    What attack are you referring? If by another terrorist bomb attack, then it is my opinion that that particular threat does not concern me in the least. I give my full empathy and sympathy to those who would be caught in the cross hairs of such an action, but I see the chances of me being in such a position to be very slim indeed. If on the other hand someone attacks me or my friends and family personally, then yes I would be moved to action. But am I to interrupt my life, plans, goals, wants, and desires if another attack occurs hundreds of miles away? And if I am, am I obligated to fight? To donate time or money? What actions would you consider moral, and what actions would you consider foolish? Thanks again for your reply I hope that this discourse can clear up any misunderstandings we may be communicating.

  18. Deniis, you are proud of "our" defense system? North Korea and Japan were better protected by the US military on 9-11 than New York City was. You are proud of that?

    At best, the troops are welfare whores. At worst, they are hired killers.

  19. If I could make a recommendation on dealing with folks with opinions like those presented by Dennis. It is better to come from a stance of understanding, empathy and a true desire to understand what he is trying to get across. It very well may be true that he is a troll that is looking for nothing but attention, but why give him ammunition to go on hurling insults and epitaphs ? Rather be kind, open, and understanding, if the trollish behavior continues it only shows him for the troll he wishes to be then.

    I do not with to be in conflict with Dennis, I do not wish to argue, or be angry with him. I wish only to understand his point of view, and try to show him ours. If he is unwilling to do this, then it is to his detriment, and not mine. I do not agree with his name calling, nor to the name calling that is being hurled back at him. By confronting differing ideas with name calling and ad hominems it only shows the true composure and maturity of the person. This goes for all sides of a discussion.

  20. If we were a ‘peaceful nation’, gave up our arms, and decided that was the best way to go, we’d be doomed.

    No one said giving up arms was necessary to be a peaceful nation. Instead of having the CIA and other agencies neck-deep in the business of other countries, trying to orchestrate them like chess pieces and pissing them off, it would be a hell of a lot smarter to only use aggression as a defensive tool. You smack the hornets' nest, you're going to get stung. Avoid the hornets' nest in the first place. Get out of everyone else's business. Stop bribing them and coercing them and making buddy-buddy with them and treat them all in a more neutral manner.

    Americans have short memories. Other cultures can hold grudges for centuries.

    I, as an American can say safely, I am PROUD OUR OUR DEFENSE system. I know several folks that have put their life on the line, just so you and the Free Keene lot can say they don’t like paying for it.

    Unless you know people who fought in the War for Independence or WWII against the Nazis, then no, you don't know anyone who put their life on the line to defend free speech. They put their lives on the line at the whims of a bunch of politicians, not in defense of freedom. Sad but true. America is less free now than it has been in centuries if not ever.

    BUT, you’re FREE to say it. The freedom you seek is already here.

    Free to say it but not do anything about it. Just keep paying your taxes to fund it all, keep choosing between Tweedledee and Tweedledum every few years, keep sending your kids to the indoctrination camps so they can learn a bunch of propaganda crap but not how to get a job, keep watching in horror as the state apparatus swells to immense proportions and invades every aspect of your life bit by bit, keep watching as your wealth shrinks thanks to the interference of the government in the economy all while the politicos promise they can somehow make jobs when you know its businesses that make jobs, politicians make B.S., et cetera, et cetera.

    No thanks.

  21. What attack are you (ME) referring? I assume you must be a 12 year old, Skinner, as on September 11, 2001 there were several airline attacks done on the US grounds.
    You can find it on most any website, (yes there is more than free keene websites). I assume, you and your lot would just shrug your shoulders and say "OH WELL, THOSE THINGS HAPPEN".
    thinkliberty, "KIDNAP, CAGE are merely words you use to make your cause sound important.
    Assuming someone was to KILL your mother, father, or anyone close to you, (if that's possible) You feel they should be set FREE be FREE, and not cage them or KIDNAP them. Just tell them, 'don't do it again, or you'd have to tell them not to do it again?
    Eiffudcm, And what happened in North Korea and Japan on September 11th?

    2 n's and 1 i.

  22. Zeus, yes i do know people that were in WWII. They were relatives of mine. Some lived, others didn't.
    They had the balls to stand up for what they believed in, America!
    They didn't start useless groups trying to offend our great country, and they had the same option that the freekeeners, and free staters have to this day. If you don't like America, MOVE to another country.
    I was told (by one of this lot) if I didn't like the free staters/ freekeeners I SHOULD move to another place.

    I'm from Keene, born and raised, why should you lot tell ME to move?
    From the media I see, aside from the free keene/Grafton lot, you folks aren't getting the reception you demand.

  23. Zeus, yes i do know people that were in WWII. They were relatives of mine. Some lived, others didn’t.
    They had the balls to stand up for what they believed in, America!

    Believe it or not, Dennis, Free Keeners and Free Staters are also standing up for what they believe in and it is those very same ideals that America was based on that you hold high, not the nationalist propaganda-fed version of today or the un-free police state nightmare of America 2010.

    Ask any of the old timers if America is better off now than it was 60 years ago, if it is more free, more prosperous, a better place and time to live in and invariably more often than not the answer is not just "No." but "Hell no".

    Back then what a man did was his own business, he was responsible for himself, he could afford to support a family of TEN on the salary of a single parent, the mother didn't have to work if she didn't want to, the kids learned useful things in school and were well read and behaved and cops were there as peace officers, not law enforcement goons.

    Today both parents have to work their asses off just so they can stay massively in debt, the DHS and TSA as well as cops and other state agencies and busybodies are in everyone else's business, Congress is bought and paid for by the corporate and nanny-stater lobbyists and they pass laws by the thousands each and every year without even reading them or thinking about the consequences. Right now, the United States has more people in prison than any other country on the planet, Dennis. That's right, more than "Red China" or Russia.

    You may not like how Free Keeners and Free Staters go about trying to preserve or get back the freedoms previous generations have piddled away, but that is indeed what they are trying to do in whatever way each of them thinks is best. It isn't an easy task and there is no right way of going about it that fits for everyone.

    They didn’t start useless groups trying to offend our great country, and they had the same option that the freekeeners, and free staters have to this day. If you don’t like America, MOVE to another country.

    I find this "Love it or leave it!" attitude to be utter nonsense. It always comes from the very same people who love the system and falsely believe it works. How quickly they forget that the very same things they love about it — which are little more than memories these days — such as standing up for what you believe in and changing the system and being vigilant lest it deteriorate into fascism and tyranny are the same ones to tell you to get out if you don't like it.

    That isn't standing up for what you believe in. That's blindly taking whatever the state dumps on you and saying "Thank you., Sir, may I lick your boots now?". That goes against everything they say they stand for.

    Again, you may not like how others go about it, but whatever other methods people have been using over the decades (like voting between two sides of the same coin) sure as hell haven't been working or it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.

    I was told (by one of this lot) if I didn’t like the free staters/ freekeeners I SHOULD move to another place.

    I’m from Keene, born and raised, why should you lot tell ME to move?

    Don't collectivize. I don't know who told you that but it isn't any more proper than you doing that to one of us. Do not hold everyone accountable for the actions of one individual, hold that individual accountable for their own actions.

    The primary tenet that makes one a Free Stater is that they signed a document stating they'd move to NH to do whatever they personally thought was best to reduce government control in their lives and then they did what they said they would by moving. That's it. What they do once they arrive is completely up to them. There are no leaders but those who people choose for themselves if they choose anyone at all.

    From the media I see, aside from the free keene/Grafton lot, you folks aren’t getting the reception you demand.

    I don't demand anything other than that government goons and nanny-state busybodies stay out of my wallet, and keep their mitts away from my person and off my things. If I want to do business with them I will. If not, they should leave me and my things the hell alone. Is that really so upsetting a concept? Because, for the most part, that's how it used to be a very, very long time ago.

  24. I like how at the very end when Brad was starting to get to the crux of the issue that the trooper's superior ordered him away.

  25. Zeus, thanks for crafting that long reply to Dennis. Some of your points are "my thought exactly" and I appreciate the fact that you took the time to write all that out.

    Also, nice work Bradley Jardis and Sam Dodson. *applause*

  26. "Believe it or not, Dennis, Free Keeners and Free Staters are also standing up for what they believe in and it is those very same ideals that America was based on that you hold high, not the nationalist propaganda-fed version of today or the un-free police state nightmare of America 2010."

    I don't think the founding fathers formed a Government to abolish Government.

    Free staters/keeners/graftonites wants to OVERETAKE, and call it no government.

    You'd be under the rule of 20 year olds that haven't been through history.

    They will certainly give references to history, ON THEIR site, just to validate the things we won't have.

    From my understanding, Andrew Carroll is not a free keener BUT his association with them is what ruined it. He doesn't understand that, and with all the congratulatory messages here, it's not helping his cause.

  27. I don’t think the founding fathers formed a Government to abolish Government.

    What they did and what they preached were two different things. Few of the founding fathers ever lived up to their ideals but their ideals were no less valid. The belief that a person has the inherent, natural right to life, liberty, property. These are the principles they held high even if they themselves fell short.

    "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." – George Washington

    "Damn… too late." – George Washington. 5 minutes later.

    Free staters/keeners/graftonites wants to OVERETAKE, and call it no government.

    No, they just want you and your government to leave them the hell alone. Some will participate in your system in the hope they can somehow turn the tide. Some will engage in civil disobedience and non-cooperation. Others will choose outreach and education and still others will walk the path they find works for them.

    The goal is the same: KYFHO.

    You’d be under the rule of 20 year olds that haven’t been through history.

    Liberty activists have no intention to rule, Dennis. That's what separates us most from you and your system of violent control. We don't want to rule or be ruled. We want to be free of your control.

    If you and your other statists friends want to rule each other, tax each other, beat and cage each other, that's your business. Have all the government you want. Just keep it to yourselves. And don't expect us to pay for it.

    They will certainly give references to history, ON THEIR site, just to validate the things we won’t have.

    Things like war, welfare, taxes, more people in prison than any other country on earth, inflation, corporatism, indoctrination camps, terribly uneducated children who can't get a job, economic interference, and expensive government boondoggles you mean?

    What a loss.

    From my understanding, Andrew Carroll is not a free keener BUT his association with them is what ruined it. He doesn’t understand that, and with all the congratulatory messages here, it’s not helping his cause.

    Andrew Carroll can make his own decisions on whose company he keeps but I'm sure he'll take your suggestions under advisement.

  28. I must say, this "CAGING, KIDNAPPING is only wording.
    So if there was a murderer lurking about and was found, You lot think we should NOT KIDNAP and CAGE, such an individual?
    What do we do, tell them "knock it off, it's making us look bad"?

    From Zeus "No, they just want you and your government to leave them the hell alone."

    That option was available by not moving to Keene and left this alone.

    "Civil disobedience is nothing more than a 'catch-phrase'.
    Admittedly a cool one, but defined, is a contradiction of it's own definition.
    Drinking a City Council meetings , when expressly told not to, is hardly CIVIL, it's just TAUNTING.
    CIVIL was a password to use DISOBEDIENCE.
    Laws are enacted for a reason.

    Past history showed SOME are needed.
    I'm confused with the "not give the shirt off your back" law, But still laws are enacted to keep the peace, which breast painting, "drinking games" , and pot smoking, are not helping.
    I will admit you have a good stand up cause, it's just not being conducted properly.
    No, I will not give advice!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. I must say, this “CAGING, KIDNAPPING is only wording.

    Words have meaning, Dennis.

    So if there was a murderer lurking about and was found, You lot think we should NOT KIDNAP and CAGE, such an individual? What do we do, tell them “knock it off, it’s making us look bad”?

    You answered your own question with the sixth word in your first sentence. Above I mentioned that words have meaning. Here is a good example. You use the word "murderer". A murderer is someone who has unjustly taken the life of another human being. That is a violation of the philosophy of liberty and the non-aggression principle. Remember all those times in this thread where I mentioned "life, liberty, labor, property" yadda yadda? There was a reason for it.

    We may not want to rule nor have rulers but we do have rules, Dennis. We think of them more as principles and ideals based on common sense and reasoned logic but whatever but the simplest way to think of it is to think of the Golden Rule AKA the Ethic of Reciprocity.

    Remember that one from kindergarten? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you (or not as the case may be)."?

    Few people enjoy being murdered. They also tend not to like being assaulted, raped, robbed and other violations of life, liberty and property. So they choose not to do those things to others and expect the same.

    A murderer has already initiated aggression. They've broken the Golden Rule, Dennis. That means they've forfeited their right not to be retaliated against until they make restitution to the victim or the victim's family.

    So no, people who initiate those acts of aggression — acts that have a clear victim and/or damaged party — are not being caged or kidnapped.

    Someone inhaling a substance you don't like is not such a case. There is no victim and no damage. And if you thought you could prove otherwise, you could dispute that in arbitration (but you'll be the one paying for a meritless case if you lose).

    To take his body by force, to restrict his movement, to demand money from him, to imprison him for period of time in order to steal that time from his existence is indeed kidnap. Considering the state generally offers bail to some for an egregious fee before they let you go, I'd throw in "ransom demand" as well.

    That option was available by not moving to Keene and left this alone.

    But Keene is one of the healthier organs of America that might be saved from the cancer spreading through the rest of the states, Dennis. I'd say you could consider us the chemo but that's not quite right, we're more like natural blend of botanical extracts that cause apoptosis.

    I think you get the drift.

    “Civil disobedience is nothing more than a ‘catch-phrase’.

    Admittedly a cool one, but defined, is a contradiction of it’s own definition.

    Perhaps in Webster's Statist Dictionary, you may be right but in the Liberty Edition, it means to "Just say no." to the state's murdering, assaulting, thieving, warring, and taxing agenda. To disobey the state's arbitrary demands without resorting to violent revolution.

    Drinking a City Council meetings , when expressly told not to, is hardly CIVIL, it’s just TAUNTING.

    Stop calling the building "public" property and telling people they own it "because your taxpayer dollars paid for it!". Tell them the truth: Taxpayers were robbed to pay for whatever an elite, privileged group of busybodies decides the town should do and they own everything in the town and are willing to use violence to maintain that control.

    CIVIL was a password to use DISOBEDIENCE. Laws are enacted for a reason.

    Yes, laws are passed — constantly — because busybodies, nanny-staters, and control freaks want to butt into the lives of other people and force their will on those people. Or because someone wants a political favor and greased the right palm.

    Past history showed SOME are needed.

    I’m confused with the “not give the shirt off your back” law, But still laws are enacted to keep the peace, which breast painting, “drinking games” , and pot smoking, are not helping.

    Breast painting is actually legal in Keene. Not that it would matter since it's no one else's business but the breast-owner and the breast painter. I know, I know, wouldn't want someone to actually see a breast and become so terrified their head explodes.

    As for laws, how many laws do you actually need to keep the peace beyond the Golden Rule? 5? 48? 34,000? A hundred million? No, Dennis, laws *used to be* enacted to keep the peace. Now they're enacted to keep paranoiacs from becoming frightened by something they don't like or so a business or person can wield the government as a club to force their desires on other people.

    I will admit you have a good stand up cause, it’s just not being conducted properly.

    No, I will not give advice!!!!!!!!!!!

    That's about the nicest thing you've said thus far. As for how it's being conducted, that's up to each individual. Some will do activism I don't care for, I might do something they don't care for. Everyone walks their own path and does what they think works best for them.

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