Thomas James Ball Self-Immolated in Protest of the “Justice” System

“I have 21 years of Army service going back to the Vietnam War. My loyalty to the government should be a given. It is gone. I am certain it will never return regardless of how long I might have lived.”

-Thomas James Ball in his “last statement” before he self-immolated in front of the courthouse that was integral in destroying his life.

Self-immolationI just got back from the Cheshire county courthouse, the site of yesterday’s self-immolation. As I was walking out, they were painting over the scorch marks they attempted to wash away earlier in the morning.

Thomas thankfully dropped off a “last statement” to the Keene Sentinel, so we could all know what he was going through. I will post that below.

First, what I learned in over an hour and a half of poring over stacks of paperwork along with Kyle Jarvis of the Sentinel and a reporter from WMUR:

Thomas James Ball, born 2/21/53 and his wife at the time, Karen Louise Ball (maiden name Primiano), born 3/2/65 had begun divorce proceedings about a decade ago. It was alleged that Ball had committed domestic violence against his 4 year old daughter at the time, Melissa. Karen had called Monadnock Family Services after the incident and was allegedly told that if she did not report the incident to police, that she would be arrested for child abuse. She called Jaffrey PD out of fear of what the government people would do to her family (steal her kids if they were both arrested) and because of their mandatory arrest policy in domestic violence cases, Thomas was arrested. He was found not guilty of simple assault in Cheshire Superior Court, despite slapping his daughter multiple times and causing bleeding. The Jaffrey PD apparently admitted that pressing forward as a domestic violence case was a mistake. His wife’s testimony shows he did not have a history of violence. Thomas figured he’d get to see his kids again after the not guilty. He figured wrong. The court continued to press for counseling at Monadnock Family Services (MFS) prior to allowing Thomas unsupervised visits with his kids. Of course, this is a huge racket for MFS, who likely is paid for every one of the cases they are sent by the court, either by the people involved or by the state of NH.

Thomas claimed Monadnock Family Services misinformed Karen when she was told that she better call the police or she’d be arrested for child abuse. He outlines the history of the case in question in his lawsuit against MFS from 2006. Here’s the PDF of his claims. The court dismissed the case against MFS primarily on a statute of limitations technicality.

Thomas’ odyssey with Cheshire superior court’s “justice” system stretched for an entire decade of his life, and despite making child support payments and having unsupervised visitation with his young son, he was unable to have unsupervised visitation with his two daughters, not because he was considered a danger, but because he refused to attend counseling as ordered by the court. Why did he refuse? Because the location of the counseling was to be Monadnock Family Services, the very same agency that he believed was responsible for escalating the situation and intimidating Karen Ball into calling the police in the first place. He wanted the decision on unsupervised visits to be made by the court, but the court kept passing the buck to MFS, therefore he did not participate, as he felt the case worker had a vendetta against him, as she allegedly refused to meet with him until he “changed his attitude”.

In 2009 he lost his job and was unable to continue making child support payments. As a result, Karen filed for a hearing on contempt of court, which the court scheduled for 6/24, next Friday. You can download Karen’s motion for a contempt hearing here in PDF form. In it, she alleges that Thomas owes thousands in back child support and attorney’s fees and demands the court sentence him to jail until he can pay the amounts demanded.

Of course, one might wonder how a jobless man could pay anything to child support behind bars, and perhaps Thomas was wondering how that might be possible as well. Facing an indefinite jail sentence, during which the amount “owed” would continue to grow, he chose to end his life in the hopes that someone would pay attention to the plight of families destroyed by this horrible system that is supposedly there to protect us. (Of course the truth is, they protect and serve themselves, not us.) He had tried the legal route, filing lawsuits to no avail. He tried to protest, joining the Fatherhood Coalition and picketing courthouses and the state house. Nothing worked.

Thomas James Ball was a man pushed to the brink by an inhumane system enforced by people who act like they have no empathy and are “just doing their jobs”. Thomas had his own issues with which to deal, but by all evidence, and even according to the state, he was not a domestic abuser, despite losing control with his daughter, which was clearly the wrong thing to do. Had the people calling themselves the state never gotten involved, maybe his family would still be together.

I don’t agree with Thomas’ conclusions in his “last statement”. He calls for violence, specifically the burning down of courthouses and such, and Free Keene’s tagline is “Peaceful Evolution”. Peaceful noncooperation and civil disobedience can do far more for liberty than violence could ever do. Violence is the government people’s game. That’s what they expect you to do if you are angry like Thomas. It’s what they are trained for. I don’t blame Thomas for being angry and frustrated with this awful system. I’m glad he did not choose to aggress against any of the state bureaucrats. They are doing wrong and destroying lives, but they should be forgiven, not attacked. Their system should be destroyed, not by fire, but by its own weight as more and more people refuse to cooperate and disobey their demands for obedience and money.

Isn’t it time you tried saying “no” to the people calling themselves government? Or did Thomas die in vain? If you don’t take action, you can expect to get more of what you’ve been getting: More control. More intrusion. More extractions of your wealth. More abuses. More peaceful people in cages…

Read on for Thomas’ “last statement”, courtesy the Keene Sentinel:

Last Statement

by Tom Ball

A man walks up to the main door of the Keene N.H. County Courthouse, douses himself with gasoline and lights a match. And everyone wants to know why.

Apparently the old general was right. Death is not the worst of evil.

I am due in court the end of the month. The ex-wife lawyer wants me jailed for back child support. The amount ranges from $2,200. to $3,000. depending on who you ask. Not big money after being separated over ten years and unemployed for the last two. But I do owe it. If I show up for court without the money and the lawyer say jail, then the judge will have the bailiff take me into custody. There really are no surprises on how the system works once you know how it actually works. And it does not work anything like they taught you in high school history or civics class.

I could have made a phone call or two and borrowed the money. But I am done being bullied for being a man. I cannot believe these people in Washington are so stupid to think they can govern Americans with an iron fist. Twenty-five years ago, the federal government declared war on men. It is time now to see how committed they are to their cause. It is time, boys, to give them a taste of war.

There are two kinds of bureaucrats you need to know; the ones that say and the ones that do. The bridge between them is something I call The Second Set of Books. I have some figures of the success of their labors. You and I are in these numbers, as well as our spouses and children. But first let me tell you how I ended up in this rabbit hole.

My story starts with the infamous slapping incident of April 2001. While putting my four year old daughter to bed, she began licking my hand. After giving her three verbal warnings I slapped her. She got a cut lip. My wife asked me to leave to calm things down.

When I returned hours later, my wife said the police were by and said I could not stay there that night. The next day the police came by my work and arrested me, booked me, and then returned me to work. Later on Peter, the parts manager, asked me if I and the old lady would be able to work this out. I told him no. I could not figure out why she had called the police. And bail condition prevented me from asking her. So I no longer trusted her judgment.

After six months of me not lifting a finger to save this marriage, she filed for divorce. Almost two years after the incident, I was talking with her on the phone. She told me that night she had called a mental health provider we had for one of the kids. Wendy, the counselor told my then wife that if she did not call the police on me, then she too would be arrested.

Suddenly, everything made sense. She is the type that believes that people in authority actually know what they are talking about. If both she and I were arrested, what would happen to our three children, ages 7,4 and 1? They would end up in State custody. So my wife called the police on her husband to protect the children. And who was she protecting the kids from? Not her husband, the father of these children. She was protecting them from the State of New Hampshire.

This country is run by idiots.

The police sergeant Freyer screwed this up from the get go. When I got the Court Complaint form the box was checked that said Domestic Violence Related. I could not believe that slapping your child was domestic violence. So I looked up the law. Minor custodial children are exempted. Apparently, 93% of American parents still spank, slap or pinch their children. To this day I still wonder if Freyer would have made this arrest if it had been the mother that had slapped the child.

Labeling someone’s action as domestic violence in American in the 21st century is akin to labeling someone a Jew in Germany in the 1930’s. The entire legal weight of the state is coming down on him. But I consider myself lucky. My family was destroyed. But that poor bastard in Germany had his family literally annihilated.

Arrests are mandatory for the police in New Hampshire for domestic violence. That is not law. That is police department policy. Laws come from the Legislature and the Governor’s office together. God only knows where these policies come from. The State’s Attorney General also has a mandatory arrest protocol for domestic violence. I call these policies, procedures and protocols The Second Set of Books. You never cover the Second Set of Books your junior year in high school. That because we are not suppose to have a Second Set of Books. This is America-we have the rule of law.

I am a regular guy, a coffee and cheeseburger type of fellow. As remarkable as my life has been, I figure that what happens to me must be happening to others as well. I was 48 years old when I got arrested here for my first time. So I went looking for the arrest numbers for domestic violence, this new group that I had unwilling joined. I could not find anything. So I wrote the U.S. Dept. of Justice in Washington. They wrote back that they did not keep track of domestic violence arrests. The FBI keeps track of all other crimes. How come not domestic violence? I thought some low level clerk was blowing me off.

At the time, I had mailing addresses in both New Hampshire and Massachusetts. So I wrote to all six Congressional offices, the two Senators from each state and the two Congressman. They like doing favors for constituents hoping you will favorably remember their name in the voting booth. All six offices reported back the same thing. They do not know how many arrests for domestic violence have been made. I immediately knew something was wrong. And I also knew this was not going to be good.

Improvise, adapt and overcome. The Army teaches that to every soldier it trains. They say that no battle plan survives the first five minutes of combat. So your people on the ground had better be able to think for themselves. Taking casualties in war is just an occupational hazard. Taking casualties and not accomplishing your mission is a disaster. After 21 years of Army service, I am pretty good at improvising.

The first thing I found was a study not of domestic violence arrests but of domestic violence injuries for 18 unnamed states and the D.C. in the year 2000. In the study 51% of the injuries were ‘no injuries’. So I knew I had a study of police reports. Who else but a police officer would record no injuries? I populated that out to the 50 states and came up with 874,000 arrest in the year 2000.

I had originally populated the number back to 1994 when the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) was enacted into law. I would later find out these arrests stated with the U.S. Attorney General’s Task Force of Domestic Violence ten years earlier in 1984. As individual states data became available for various years and states, I would incorporated in to my informal study. The number I have now in 2011 is 36 million adults have been arrested for domestic violence. I have a gut feeling this number could be as high as 55 million. But I only have data to 36 million. So 36 million it stays. And there is a really cool trick you can do once you have this number. You can find out how many American men. women and children ended up homeless because of these arrests.

Most of the domestic violence statistics I have seen break down with 75% male and 25% female being arrested. So I am going to used the male pronoun for the one arrested spouse and the female pronoun for the victim spouse. That should make the domestic violence feminists ecstatic-man bad, woman good. But that is okay because that is probably the last nice thing I am going to do for them today.

When then a man is arrested for domestic violence, one of two things can happen. If they are only dating and have separate apartments, then he can head home. But if they are living together, then this fellow has a real problem. Bail conditions and then a possible protective or restraining order prevent him from being with her. So he needs to find a new place to live, at least until the charges are resolved. The King of his Castle is no longer allowed into his castle. A feminist name Pence who wrote that was absolutely giddy at that outcome. So he can get his own place if he has enough money. Or he can move in with his mother, his sister or another relative. He might have a girl friend who would let him stay with her. And if none of this is possible, well then I guess he is sleeping in his car down by the river.

If he has minor children, money will soon turn into an issue. Most men I know do not mind paying child support. They want their kids to have food on their plates, clothes on their backs, and a roof over their heads. But it does stress that man’s finances. Child support is usually 33% of the man’s gross income. Withholding for taxes, social security and health insurance can range up to 28% of his gross paycheck. So a man making $500 a week gross has only $825 monthly left over after withholding and child support. That is not enough money for an apartment here in Central Massachusetts. That does not include other expenses like heating, electric, gas, groceries, telephone, cable, car payment and car insurance. So he is in a financial hole. Estimates of homeless men run 82% to 94%. I am going to round that down to 80%.

After the King has left his castle, his wife runs into a problem. She was use to getting his whole paycheck for the household. Now she get a third for child support. Figure they both work and made the same money, her budget went from 100% down to 66%. If she was running the house on $3,045. a month when the King was home, now without him she only has $2,220. Most households in America cannot withstand a 27% hit on the household account. She’ll juggle the bills but eventually most wives figure out that they can pay all the smaller bills if they just does not pay the big bill. That would be the rent or the mortgage. So six to nine months after the King is out of the castle, the Queen, the Princes and the Princesses are also on the street. Domestic violence feminists state that 50% of victim spouses of domestic violence end up homeless at some time in their lives.

The last group of homeless from these arrests are children. The domestic violence feminists state that 70% of domestic violence couple have children. So 50% female times 70% children equals 35%. But children is plural. So we will double to 70%.

(Odd isn’t it? They know that 50% of victim spouses end up homeless and that 70% of them have children. How can they know the percentages when they do not know how many total arrests were made? Those people at the U.S. Justice Dept. cannot even pull off a credible cover-up. )

Men are 0.8, women are 0.5, and children are 0.7 for a grand total of 2.0 homeless Americans for every domestic violence arrest. Multiply that by 36 million and you get 72 million men, women and children ending up homeless at some point in their lives over the last 25 years because of these domestic violence arrests.

That is a really large number even by Washington standards. That is almost 25% of the entire population of the U.S. using 2010 census figures. Which begs the question did these homeless people contribute to this latest economic meltdown, or did they cause it? Because if they did cause it then the recovery will not be measure in months or years but in decades.

Some of the boys in the Father’s Movement think Congress might have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Personally, I think they shot themselves some place anatomically higher. No wonder the Speaker of the House is always crying. The Dummies on the Potomac.

Twenty-five years ago the federal government start pushing these arrests on state’s legal systems. Now, we have an economy on the rope. They have thrown a huge amount of money at banks, big business and local and states government. And we are still in the mud. But no economist either at the Treasury Dept., Federal Reserve, universities or think tanks are even looking at the impact of all these broken families. If that 36 million arrest is correct, then 72 million men and women, have been throw out of the middle class into subsistence living. Or is the number 55 million and 110 million? No one knows and no one is even looking. But why should look? According to the Attorney General, we do not know how many arrests we have made.

And if the Tea Party is any indication, insurrection is brewing in the land. Just a coincident? Not likely. This is what happens when the government wipes out the middle class.

The idea for these arrests came from something called the Minneapolis Police Experiment (MPE) of 1981-82. In the experiment police offices were given pads with one of three words written on them; counsel, send or arrest. Counsel meant the officer was to try to mediate the couple’s spat. Send was to send one of the spouses out of the house for eight hours as a cooling off period. Arrest was arrest one of the two spouses. The officer was to do as the top paper on the pad said to do. The experiment was set up by the Police Foundation and Lawrence W. Sherman was the lead researcher. The results show counseling resulted in a future assault in 24% cases, send was 19%, and the arrest option resulted in a future assault in only 10% of the cases. Perhaps a cheap way of cutting down future domestic violence.

In 1984 The U. S. Attorney General’s Task Force of Domestic Violence recommended arrest as the primary weapon in domestic violence assault. Lawrence W. Sherman recommend not using the arrests because the MPE was just one study and it could be wrong. They ignored him. And by 1992, 93% of the police departments in the nation had adopted some form of mandatory arrest in domestic violence cases.

But by 1992 five more addition studies similar to the MPE became available. Lawrence W. Sherman reviewed all five studies. Then once again he wrote that the police should not use arrest. In two of the five studies, they found the same result as they did in the MPE, that an arrest cut down the odds of a future assault. But in the other three studies an arrest actually increase the odds of a future assault. So arresting someone in a domestic violence situation to cut down on future assaults did not work any better than just flipping a coin. I do not know if Lawrence W. Sherman is still alive. But fortunately he wrote a book call Policing Domestic Violence that was published in 1992.

So we have 800,000 American police officers arresting one in every six adults in the country and throwing 25% of the men, women and children out on the streets in an effort to enforce a policy that they knew did not work back in1992. And I had always assumed that you needed a man to really screw something up. Oh well, there goes another glass ceiling.

Why would they push an arrest policy that does not work? There are two schools of thought on the reason why. The first comes from Lawrence W. Sherman. He calls it the Law of Just Desserts. Revenge for slights and offenses, real or imagined. I am sure there are some that would argue that women are not vengeful. But what is that old saying? Hell hath no fury…..

The second idea comes from the mother of the second wave of feminism. I do speak of the brilliant Betty Friedan. In the Epilogue Chapter of the 20th Anniversary Edition of her book The Feminine Mystique, Betty relayed why she resigned as the first president of the National Organization of Women in 1970. Betty wrote that she, “was unable to openly fight the man haters and unwilling to front for them any more…” So man hating bigots no only existed 40 years ago, they were also grabbing power. Now Washington is funding them. Makes you wonder what bigots they will fund next. Maybe the Klan?

Feminists had always claimed that when women took over, we would have a kinder, gentler, more nurturing world. After 36 million arrests and 72 million evictions what we got was Joe Stalin.

The third wave of feminists do not like to call themselves feminists. The word feminist could be perceived as gender oppression. These third wave of whatever-we-call-you got that right The treachery of our legal system over the last 25 years may end up giving all feminists a bad name. Which would make us as bigoted as the man-hating feminists who got us into this mess to begin with.

So let us talk about those bureaucrats that do. These are the ones that actually carry out the evil deeds. I like call them the do-bies.

Any one swept up into legal mess is usually astonished at what they see. They cannot believe what the police, prosecutors and judges are doing. It is so blatantly wrong. Well, I can assure you that everything they do is logical and by the book. The confusion you have with them is you both are using different sets of books. You are using the old First Set of Books- the Constitution, the general laws or statutes and the court ruling sometime call Common Law. They are using the newer Second Set of Books. That is the collection of the policy, procedures and protocols. Once you know what set of books everyone is using, then everything they do looks logical and upright. And do not bother trying to argue with me that there is no Second Set of Books. I have my own copies at home. Or at least a good hunk of the important part of it.

I got my Second Set of Books when I sued the Jaffrey NH police department. Under the discovery rule, I write them with the material I wanted and it would arrive in the mail a few weeks later. I got the Police Academy Training Manual. I got the Department’s Policy and Procedure Manual. I got the no-drop protocol that the attorney general sent to all his or her prosecutors. I even got the domestic violence protocols for the court system, one hundred pages worth. Once you read it the material, then you will know what the police, prosecutors and judges will do. They are completely predictable once you know what set of books they are using.

The police academy training manual states that an arrest in a domestic violence call is the preferred response. They cite the Minneapolis Police Experiment (MPE) as its justification. But the author of the MPE, Lawrence Sherman, said do not use arrest because five follow up studies show that it did not work. The would be a violation of the 4th Amendment in the First Set of Books against unreasonable search and seizure. Then there is that whole issue of whether the police have the right to arrest for any reason other than they believe a crime was committed.

The Jaffrey Police Department Policy and Procedures Manual states that if a wife says she does not want her husband arrested, the police are to ignore her, arrest the husband, and get with the prosecutor to see what they can work out. In other words, make the arrest and then see if you can Mickey Mouse it. The wife is eligible for spousal immunity. If she invokes it, then no statement she mades, written or oral, are admissible because she cannot be cross examined about it under oath. ( Did you say that? What did you mean when you said that?) With no statements the police have no probable cause in most cases to make an arrest. Also a violation of the 4th amendment in the First Set of Books.

The actor Nickolas Cage was drunk in New Orleans with his wife. Everyone else is drunk in New Orleans, so why should Nick be any different. He and his wife were arguing over which house the rented for their stay. Nick grab his wife’s arm and started to lead her to his house. The police arrested Nick for domestic violence. His wife was stunned. That was not domestic violence. “Nothing we can do,” the police explained to her. “Just following orders.”

That is an accurate explanation for victims, even if they do not think of themselves as victims. The police have a zero tolerance towards any physical contact. Things might get worse in the future is the feminist logical for this present iron fist approach to domestic relations. I would have to agree with them. After all the arrests, poverty, homelessness and misery, I can assure you-things are going to get worse.

But that nothing we can do, just following orders the officers explain always sounds so timid and lame. The police need to punch their explanation up a bit, make it more authoritarian. And there is a quick, low cost way of doing it. The police officers only need to say it in its original German.

The state Constitution in NH said the prosecutors job is to promote justice. The Attorney Generals protocols said that domestic violence case are no-drop cases. (Unless, of course, they take the Deal. Continue the case for a year, go to counseling, and everything falls off the books after the year. They did after all find some way of getting rid of all these cases.)

The Attorney General can hire, fire, layoff, promote, demote, commend or award bonuses. The constitution is some old, quaint, dusty document up in the Statehouse some where. So which one do you think is going to get obeyed?

Prosecutors are funny. Some, maybe most, have egos the size of Cape Cod. But of the three, police, prosecutor and judges, prosecutors have the least protection. Micheal Nifong, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case, was fired, disbarred, convicted of a crime, and actually jailed for trying to enforce the no-drop prosecution protocol for sexual assault in the Duke case.

The prosecutor in my criminal case fared a little better. I filed a complaint with his boss for summoning my two daughters, ages 7 and 4, to court. I had already conceded that the facts were not in dispute. The trial would be about the law. No witness were need much less a couple of toddlers. He still summoned them. (The Second Set of Books tells the prosecutors to get a sympathetic face in front of the judge or jury. What’s more sympathetic than toddlers.) The prosecutor could not refute my allegation because I enclosed a copy of the trial transcript. I had to pay for the transcript. When the prosecutor read it, he gave his two weeks notice and then blew town. That transcript was the best $46 I had ever spent in this life.

There is a name for what happens when a bureaucrat is destroyed by the First Set of Books for attempting to enforce the Second Set of Books. It is called the Abu Ghraib Syndrome. The people within the law enforcement community no longer seem to know the difference between the law, with its checks and balances, and the policies, procedure and protocols that constitute The Second Set of Books. In some cases you do not even know who wrote the policy, procedure or protocol. It could have been the local high school gym teacher for all anyone knows. Many of these bureaucrats are eventually going to learn the different between the First and the Second Set of Books. And my guess is that many of them are going to learn it the hard way. Because the only checks and balances in The Second Set of Books is The First Set of Books.

Judges routinely use our children as bargaining chips. Get the adult into counseling, continue the case for a year, and then drop it. This will open up the docket for the new arrests coming in next week. These judges that use our children are not honorable. Which is why I never use the term ‘Your Honor’ any more. I just call them judge.

Alex Baldwin, the actor, wrote that you have never seen a coward until you have seen a Los Angeles County judge. I call my judges-Sullivan, Arnold and even Runyon-cowards, too. When I first started observing them, nothing made sense. Arnold was completely infuriated when he was maneuvered into ruling not guilty. He verbally went up and down me so many times I lost count. What was the big deal? If I was not guilty just say and then we could all go home. But that was back in the days before I knew about The Second Set of Books.

I lost visitation with my two daughters when I got arrested. One was the victim-the other was the witness. After a not guilty, I expected to get visitation with my girls. But the divorce judge, Sullivan, decreed that counseling was in order and they would decide when we would reunite. I told the judge that the decision on whether these two girls had a father or a fatherless childhood was not leaving this courthouse. There would be a couple of reason for that decision.

First, by then I knew of the Second Set of Books. As much as I had prayed for the return of my children, I knew that this counseling might get thrown in the way. Judges are addicted to counseling like a meth-head is addict to crystal meth. Sullivan wrote in the divorce decree that he envision only one or two meetings with the counselor. There is no counseling done in the first meeting or two. It is intake-who’s the players and what are the issues. But Sullivan was not interested in counseling. He merely wanted to unload the decision out of habit. And if we do not shut them down now, they will be doing it to our kids in twenty years from now when they have little ones running around the house.

Second, just exactly where does the buck stop with our legal system? Police have to make an arrest. The prosecutor has to pursue the case. Judges now also walk a away without rendering a verdict, and passing the buck does not constitute a decision. Can those mental health counselors slide the decision over to someone else? Just where does this end? Who is responsible? Who is accountable?

The mental health crowd is the third reason I said no. Some people think they are geniuses with their Masters and PH D’s. Others think they are so wacky that they call them fruit loops. Well, I have a third name for them. Suckers. They did not get hired for their medical ability. They got these because they were willing to take these cases off the judge’s hands. Which has done nothing for the credibility for their profession. We are not here to help-we are here to unload. And they created a liability that did not previously existed. If a judge releases a defendant and he goes kills someone, that judge or the judiciary cannot be sued. But a mental health worker, and their employer certainly can be held liable. Our judiciary is now using the mental health field like a ten dollar whore.

I sued Monadnock Family Services to make them go away. I told their lawyer Byron that they were a legitimate target for men. We settled for no money. They would have nothing to do with this reconciliation. The counselor was released. And they would no longer get involved in any domestic violence cases.

Every time we ended back in court over whatever squabbles, I would ask Judge Sullivan for my children back. The decision belong to the counselors he would tell me. But he knew he had screwed up. I could see it in his face. But he would not fix it. He would not step out of that box those domestic violence/sexual assault advocates had built for him. After five years, he retired to a part time position at the Littleton courthouse 120 miles away.

So when guys like Alex Baldwin and I call judges cowards, we have legitimate reasons for doing so. It is not good for judges to be called coward. It is unlikely that it is good for the rest of us.

I do not claim to have all The Second Set of Book. I know of one book that I do not have. And I would have love to read that one. That would be the seminar that the domestic violence and sexual assault advocates put on periodically for legal personnel including judges. These advocates are camped outside every state, not federal, courthouse in America. The U.S. Dept of Justice provides 50-100% of their funding depending on the program. They have three day seminars at resorts where everything is paid for except the liquor. Judges in NH are ordered to attend. Neither Sullivan or Arnold would confirm or deny they had attended. They actually said nothing. It must be like the Masons where they will not say anything about the organization until you show them the secret hand sign.

Supreme Court Judge Louis Brandeis once wrote that the best description of a judge is the impartial guardian of the rule of law. How does three days of wine, women and song contribute to impartiality? It does not. So it should not have been any surprise that they would not answer me. After all, they were not on trial. I was. But they are going to be. They were suppose to protect to rule of law not collaborate in its demise. They have failed miserably.

A guardian ad litem is an attorney appointed for a child. The attorney solely represents the child. I got one when I was first separated to get a neutral pair of eyes and ears on the family. I was disappointed in his findings.

A few years later, another guardian was appointed for one of the kids. A regular report filed with the Court painted me as some sort violent psychopath. I thought that was uncalled for seeing as we had never met. It start a flurry of nasty letters between until we both came to the conclusion that this was not about us. We ended on a friendly note.

At a Court hearing later on I approached him. I asked him if he had had any domestic violence training. He said yes, that it was required to become certified as a guardian ad litem. Another chapter for The Second Set of Books that I never managed to acquire.. So men, if you were thinking about getting a guardian ad litem for an unbiased assessment, then you should ask for the domestic violence material that certified the guardian. And do not worry that you are not sure what you are looking for. It will stand right out.

There are more sections of The Second Set of Books. Medical personnel are supposed to report suspected domestic violence. The college professor Angela Davis has a story of a Latino couple in California getting in trouble feeding the dog his liver for dinner. Mental health employees are also required. Think of Wendy threatening our kids with foster care. Teachers, day care providers, the list just goes on and on. The East German secret police, the Stazi, had 25% of the population on record as informers. The United States is not that high yet, but we are still growing.

These people-police, prosecutors and judges-are suppose to protect us. They are checks and balances to prevent injustice. That is why we spend so much money of police training. But if the police screw it up, the prosecutor can catch it. If the prosecutor misses it then the judge can step in to fix it. But if all three have been compromised, then what does one need to do to get justice? Go to the appeals court or the Supreme Court? That seem a little ridiculous particularly when the zero tolerance has arrests for something as trivial as touching.

On one hand we have the law. On the other hand we have what we are really going to do-the policies, procedures and protocols. The rule of law is dead. Now we have 50 states with legal systems as good as any third world banana republic. Men are demonized and the women and children end up as suffering as well.

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. The Second Set of Books originated in Washington. But the dirty deeds are being carried out by our local police, prosecutors and judges. These are the people we pay good money to protect us and our families. And what do we get for our tax money? Collaborators who are no different than the Vichy of France or the Quislings of Norway during the Second World War. All because they go along to get along. They are an embarrassment, the whole lot of them. And they need to be held accountable. So burn them out.

In the last 25 years they have arrested one in six adults in this country and forced 25% of the men, women and children into homelessness. In 50 years it will be one in three adults arrested and 50% of the men, women and children ending up homeless. Most of our kids will live to the age of 68 years old. As bad as it was for you, your children will have twice the odds of it happening to them.

Some of you will say that 50% homelessness sounds absurd. But 25% is absurd and that is already here. There is no evidence that the police, courts, or government is planning to do anything different in the immediate future. And they will not do anything different until we make it so uncomfortable that they must change. Bureaucracy at its worst. So burn them out. This is too important to be using that touchy-feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers. But even the sprinklers going off work to our advantage. There is no way they can work in a building with six inches of water. And I am certain we will disrupt their momentum once they start working out of a FEMA trailers. If they still do not get the message, then burn down the trailers.

The easiest way of burning a building is with the Molotov cocktail. It was invented by the Finns when the Soviets invaded in 1939. You fill a bottle with gasoline and stuff a rag in the end for a wick. You light the wick and throw bottle, It shatters on impact spraying gas everywhere and the wick ignites the gas. Simple, readily available, and effective. And only two things to remember.

First, use a glass bottle. Thinner glass is better than thicker glass. You want it to shatter on impact. When I was teaching a kid at the high school on the West Side Worcester, MA. threw a Molotov cocktail into his school. Fortunately, he used a plastic bottle. It burned about three square inches of carpeting. I had to laugh when I said to myself, “Thank God for dumb kids.”

Second, you need to tie the rag to the bottle. Nothing worse that throwing a Molotov cocktail, landing where you wanted it, and having it shatter perfectly. Then you noticed the wick had fallen out on the way to the target. No wick-no fire.

Some of these building will have brick faces and metal roofs. Just break a window and throw the Molotov cocktail inside. Carpets, furniture, computer plastic, even paint on the walls will burn. It is okay if the sprinkler goes off. I wonder if you can get hip waders over a gun belt?

We had a kid in my hometown that burned down the old junior high school. He walked up to the front door one night with a can of lighter fluid. The applicator on the end squirts the lighter fluid out. He squirted under the door and along the seams and lit a match. The kid took out the entire old part of the building. Why are kids so competent when it is something they should not be doing?

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

Now, nobody wants to get killed. But let us look at your life. You are broke after paying child support. She and the kids are not doing any better. None of you are middle class any more. You have no say in the kids education, their health treatment, you may not even have visitation with your sons and daughters. And everything you thought you knew to be true-the rule of law, the sanctity of the of the family, the belief that government was there to nurture your brood-all turned out to be a lie. Face it boys, we are no longer fathers. We are just piggy banks.

So you are not losing anything by picking up the Molotov cocktail. It may be too late for us. But without something changing, your kids will have double the odds of it happening to them. That will knock them out of the middle class again, providing they ever get back in. And their kids, your grandchildren, will end up damaged goods before it is over. So it is okay to run. You just need to turn around and run at them. They are no way as imposing as they seem. They only do what they do for a paycheck.

Television would make us believe that people get arrested because of fingerprints, DNA, facial recognition, and instruments that can tell where a substance was made and here is the local distributors. It is Hollywood crap. Most of the people in prison are there for one key reason. They could not keep their mouths shut. They told someone. That someone told others. The cops hear it and start looking at them for a suspect. That how it works in real life.

This need to confess seems to be primeval. Just human nature. But if you cannot keep a secret, do not expect the one you tell to keep their mouth shut. There is only three people I know for certain they will keep their mouths shut. That would be Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

I only managed to get the main door of the Cheshire County Courthouse in Keene, NH. I would appreciate it if some of you boys would finish the job for me. They harmed my children. The place is evil. So take it out

Some where along the line I picked up the crazy notion that it is better to be dead as a free man than to live as a serf. The government needs to be a little more careful about what they teach in our schools.

And bring a can of spray paint to these fires. Paint the word COLLABORATORS ( two L’s with an S on the end) on the building before you burn it. Maybe we can shame them back to the rule of law. And we do want the police to know exactly who burned the building. Then the police can start interviewing the usually suspects, all 36 million of us.

We have covered the do-bies. Now let us look at the bureaucrats that say-ers.

The Second Set of Books originated in Office of Violence Against Women (OVW) which is part of the United States Department of Justice. Some of these policies, procedures and protocol were developed locally. But the local results would be sent up to OVW and, if approved, would disperse it out to all 50 states. They are smart, clever, bigoted and able to lie as well as any politician that ever called Washington home. In other words, they have now become Washington insiders.

But what makes them so uniques is their anger towards men, any man. They are so twisted in their hatred of men that they are positively scary. And it is not what they are doing to men that makes them frightening. You would expect that. No, it is what they are doing to the women and children that makes them so twisted.

When the Pentagon drops a bomb on innocent civilians the military calls it Collateral Damage. It sounds better than, “Yeah, we killed a bunch of women and children.” Those poor, innocent, stupid civilians have always been caught in the middle since the time we were fighting with rocks.. Your wife and kids are Collateral Damage in the war against you, the man in the family. For 25 years these feminists at OVAW have been willing to sacrifice the women and children to get you. And they cannot claim ignorance about what they are doing. Under the VAWA the federal government is funding at least 1,800 homeless shelters. As long as the Office for Violence Against Women exists in the U.S. Department Justice , no American man, women or child will be safe in their own home.

If you ask these feminists why are the shelters all full, they will not say because of all the arrests. The shelters are full because of men. But they knew from the beginning that this was not man bad-woman good thing. The year was 1976. Two things would happen that year.

First, someone at the U.S. Dept of Justice decided to count the dead bodies. In 1975 there were 1522 women killed in domestic violence. And for men killed in 1975? The dead for men was 1506. Statistically equal a friend tells me so.

If you had asked me before the study, I would have assumed that women were getting the worst of it. But I would be looking at it by genders. What I should have been looking at was species, homo-sapiens, human beings. Men are human-women are human. Being the same species you would expect the same results from both genders. And that is exactly what the dead bodies told us.

The second thing that happened in 1976 was the first domestic violence survey was released. It was so new the time that they called it family violence. Murray Straus of UNH and Richard Gellars from a school in RI were the researchers. They did not find two perpetrators of domestic violence, but three. Men initiated violence 25.7% of the time: women 25.2%, and the other 49.1% was the two going after each at the same time. These two people going after each other at the same time is well recognized in law. The law in NH calls that mutual combat. Men are human. Women are human. And once again we found both genders acting the same manner.

So how did we end up with the theory of man bad-woman good that the government at all levels is using? The feminist writer Susan Brownmiller wrote In Our Time that,” the way you get funding and church donations is to talk about the pure victims. If you talk about the impurity of the victim, the sympathy vanishes.” If women get to be good then men get what is left-bad. Man bad-woman good was originally a funding raising technique. After 35 years, it has turned into official government dogma at all levels, from the local cop on the beat to the White House. Men need to be punished, restrained and retrained. Your wives and children are, unfortunately, just collateral damage in this effort to punish men. So you were not dreaming it. There really is a government pogrom against men.

When a man batters or kills, there is no excuse. When a woman commits the same act, there is nothing but excuses. Simple though inaccurate. But there is one redeeming aspect to men being demonized. Now we men can act like devils. And we do not even need to apologize for it. Men are going to start acting just like they made us out to be. As an old high school semi-punk I can assure you boys of one thing. This is going to be fun. You guys are going to end up laughing like hyenas.

The money funded under the VAWA is split in two when it leaves the Treasury. Part goes the Health and Human Services for fund these domestic violence homeless shelters. If that 36 million number is correct, and it is all that we have, then the 1.44 million arrests a year will be made producing 2.88 million homeless Americans each year. Women and children constitute 60% of these homeless people, 1.7 million Americans a year. Shutting down these shelters would be cruel. What would these women and children do then? Go live under a bridge. No, we are stuck with these shelters for a while. But there is one thing that Congress needs to fix when they fund them again.

These shelters do not allow men on the property let alone inside the residences. Why is it against the law to use federal money on organizations that discriminate against black, Jews, gays or even women but it is okay to do so against men? Men contributed half that tax money. Eight years ago a man in California fled with his children after the police warned him to get out after they had arrested the wife and mother. None of the shelters would take him and the kids in because he was a man. I wonder if this would survive a legal gender discrimination challenge in a federal court?

A society without men is freakier than a world without blacks or Jews. That is not to say blacks or Jews are any less worthy. It just that there are more men in the world than blacks or Jews even if you combined them. If these feminist had to deal with men on a regular basis, then maybe the country would not be in the pickle we are in now.

There is a third reason to end this discrimination, something of a more practical nature. Apparently, some women like to have sex with men. But men are barred from the property. Suddenly, that 15 year boy two doors down starts looking real good. It might even be fun breaking in this new meat. So this woman driven into insolvency by the push for domestic violence arrests now finds herself charged as a pedophile because someone barred men from her world. With domestic violence advocates as friends, who needs enemies.

This shelters came up with a novel approach to fixing the pedophile problem. Male children over the age of thirteen are barred from staying there. Too troublesome. The family broke up when the father was thrown out of the house. Now a second break up is happening with the teenage boys. Perhaps a relative has one bed available. Maybe the family of a high school friend would take him in their home. If neither option works then that is okay. He can move in with his father. Then they will both be sleeping in the car down by the river.

Children of these parents also suffer. They used to have their own bedroom in a safe town with good schools. First they have a shelter, then Section 8 public housing. An urban school. Maybe good-maybe not. Kids learn how to be tough in an urban environment. The kids might go bad or they could come out just fine. But there will be no clunky car as a teenager. There will be no saving fund for college. There will be no monetary gift to use as a down payment for a starter home. This tradition of the older generation giving the younger generation a financial leg up has been ruin due to the older generation’s lack of money. Financially, the older generation is merely treading water. It will take generations after these present two generations to repair the economic damage to these families.

So we are stuck with funding these shelters for a while. These women and children have no place left to go. Some of you guys may think that these feminist caused the problem and then created the solution. But homeless shelters are not a solution. They are just barely a band aid.

The remaining money under VAWA goes to the United States Department of Justice for the Office of Violence Against Women (OVW). As long as OVW exists then the government is at war with men. As long as there is a pogrom against men, then women and children are going to end up as collateral damage. So there is no need for discussion about OVW going. The only thing we need to figure out is which of the two ways we can use to get rid of them-the easy way or the hard way.

And boys, do not try to burn down Washington’s Dept. of Justice Building in an effort to get rid of the Office of Violence Against Women. Their offices are over at N Street.

The easy way is using Congress. The VAWA comes up for funding every five to seven years. Next time it comes up, Congress votes no and everyone at the OVW gets a pink slip in late September. Nice and simple except nothing is simple in Washington. We, the people out here in the sticks, do not always know what the dynamics are in Washington. There might be one method of getting Congress on course. Have Congress demand that the Attorney General get, and release the arrests figures. Or have the President order it. He is usually fearless after he makes up his mind. And this is too large and too well known to continue the Washington plausible deniable routine. Then they will know how much trouble they are in because of these arrests.

There are 220 million adults 18 or older in this country of both sexes. If my figure of 36 million is correct, then that is 16.4% of the adults have been arrested. It could be as high as 55 million or 25%. It might be as low as 22 million or 10%. Whatever the number there are two things that Congress should know. First, is the fellow who discovered the arrests in Minneapolis back in 1992 said do not use it because it does not work. And second, the people arrested now constitute a Fifth Column here in the United States. Our loyalty to Washington is gone. But what did these genuises on the Potomac expect? They have harmed our children. If they think Al Qaeda is a pain in the ass, wait to they see what Americans can do once their fuse is lit.

I am certain the Attorney General will sit for months on the request for the number of domestic violence arrests. Then he will explain that they do not readily have the number and that some sort of Manhattan Project effort will be needed in time and money. Nonsense. When Washington started these arrests in 1984 over 6.3 personal computers were sold here in the U.S. That figure does not include all the mini’s, midi’s and mainframe computers sold that year. There is no way they can pretend that this data does not exist in electronic storage. A request to Ohio for the arrests 1984-2010 would tie up a state clerk for an hour, including their 15 minute coffee break. Time for the truth boys and girls. Because this is not going away.

The hard way is more time consuming, cost more money and is full of headaches. Because the only way of removing a department from the federal government without the consent of Congress is to take out the entire federal government.

The first time I heard that, I said that is ridiculous. We cannot run this country without a federal government. But we will replace the old government with something new and improved. The new government would honor the debts incurred by the old government. There are a lot of useful reasons for starting with a clean slate.

The bipartisan debt commission released their recommendation for cleaning up the $14 trillion we have borrowed over the years. Convention wisdom has it that Congress has no stomach for any of the recommendations.

But a new government could install those recommendation on day one. Three years later, most Americans will not remember that anything is different. The old government laid off its employees when it closed. The new government is hiring. But instead of 65,000 employees at the Dept. of Education, the new government is only hiring 45,000. Instead of an average federal wage of $70,000 a year, the new average will be $52,000. The new government will have to write a tax code. Everyone pays 15% with no deductions. How many IRS employees could you get rid of if there were no more deductions? Any thing is possible with a new government.

Normally over-throwing a elected government is considered treason. Treason is punishable by death here in the United States. But there is one way of over throwing the government. That is through the ballot box. Then it is not treason but democracy. Allegedly, Washington is in favor of democracy, particularly if their candidate wins.

There is no legal mechanism in the Constitution or the Federal code of the United States for dissolving the government of the United States. So that is what we need first. Congress would need to write it. We get them to do it through the ballot initiative.

A ballot initiative is when enough registered voters sign a petition to get a question on the ballot for the next election. The following would be a sample of what the question would look like in New Hampshire.

That all elected representatives from the state of New Hampshire to both houses of the United States Congress are to propose and advance a bill that would set up a legal mechanism to dissolve the United States government should the people decide to do so in a general election by a simple majority.

If this initiative passes in all 50 states then Congress will be stuck. They will have to write the law to dissolve. If they do not I suspect within ten years they will be standing in a stairwell at the British or French embassy with a suitcase in hand waiting to get to a rooftop helicopter. I doubt if they will be thinking about the humiliation of being thrown out of the country. They will be far too busy worrying about what will happen if the mob gets their hands on them.

Washington has not got a friend in the world. Even the British and Israelis loath them now. Kind of a bad time to be losing domestic support. And what they done over the last 25 years? They have wiped out the middle class pandering to a special interest group of bigots. And in typical Washington fashion, they did not even know they did it.

This Ivy League inbreeding in Washington has produced an elite that knows what best. Everyone else-husbands, wives, police officers, prosecutors, judges, attorney generals and guardian ad litems-are to shut up and do what they are told. The rule of law is gone, replaced by the policies, procedures and protocols of The Second Set of Books. Which means the federal government will be going shortly. For the government being unable to deliver the rule of law is like an auto mechanic who claims he does not know how to change the engine oil. A certain minimum competency is required. So it looks like the parents of the Washington elite were right. One can be too smart for their own good.

Betty Friedan wrote that the feminist revolution, like any revolution, would have its excesses. Losing the rule of law is too great to call it a mere excess. It is a catastrophe. It is the heart, mind and soul between the people and their government. These feelings of betrayal by losing it may be permanent. I have 21 years of Army service going back to the Vietnam War. My loyalty to the government should be a given. It is gone. I am certain it will never return regardless of how long I might have lived.

It was another woman that lead us in to this decision to clean house inside the beltway. Something she taught us fifty years ago. You simply look at those folks in Washington and then ask yourself the old Ann Landers question, “Am I better off with them, or without them? Are my children better off with them, or without them?” They are sinking like stones.

Washington, DC was chose as the capital because it was the geographical center or the old Colonies. Today, the geographical center of the country is just west of St. Louis Missouri. The new government can set the capital anywhere in the United States it wants. Imagine how many rodents, insects and parasites they could lose by moving 1500 miles west.

Whether you replace the federal government or not, men are still going to need a legal defense center for men. Something like the NAACP used to get black people their rights. The only checks and balances in the Second Set of Books is the First Set of Books. Which means lawsuits. Now I know you guys are broke. Some of you have had your wives and kids thrown into homelessness. So I completely understand when you tell me that you are broke. But if everyone who has been arrested throws in $10.00 a year then the legal defense center will have a war chest of $360 million. You can buy a whole bunch of lawsuit with that kind of money.

The Ball family has been supplying sergeants to the Army since at least the Revolutionary War. Elijah served as a sergeant in Cushing’s Regiment at the Battle of Bennington. His commanding officer was a general from NH with a name of John Stark. General Start was a clever warrior. He was responsible for the bulk of the heavy casualties the British suffer at their victory at Bunker Hill. His orderly, fighting withdrawal allowed the other units on the hill to not only retreat but collect their wounded on the way out.

General Stark would repeat this performance on three hill tops outside the village of Bennington VT one hot August day in 1777. At the end of the battle, the British lost over 900 men killed or captured. The Colonists suffered 30 dead. Two months later, the depleted British army would surrender at Saratoga. That victory at Saratoga would bring the French into the war. John Stark was the most competent general this country ever produced. For that reason alone his men loved him.

But as brilliant as he was on the battlefield, General Stark would become even more famous for something he said. In 1809 the veterans of Bennington decided to have one last reunion. A delegation called on the General with his invitation. But the General was old and frail. He could not attend. But he did send a message, “You tell the boys I said live free or die. That death is not the worst of evil.” Since 1945 the State of New Hampshire has stamped Live Free or Die on every pen, coffee mug, license plate and highway sign that they have gotten their hands on.

I think the General and his sergeant would be please that his words have elevated from the novelties and bric-a-brac to something more dignified like a courthouse door. Neither of them would give a second thought to the mess left over after the fire was extinguished. War has always been a grim business. Civil wars are usually worse.

But they would be trouble by the new enemy. Oh, they understood when a government betrays it people. They took up arms against the super power of their day to get relief for their grievances. But the enemy we face now is the government that these men birthed at places like Bennington, Saratoga and Bunker Hill. Government is no different than the food in a refrigerator. Given enough time both will go bad.

The smartest person I knew in this life was my mother. Perhaps that is true of all of us. Maybe I just got lucky. She was a nurse by trade. She worked in a time when Western medicine made that final transition from butchery to science. But it would not be her nursing skills that made her extraordinary. No, it would be this one incredible knack she had that I had only modest success at mimicking in my life. If she had something important to say to you, she would say and then never mention it again. She would talk about it if you raised the issue. But she never mentioned it twice on her own. And, oddly, you always heard her.

But she did have one favorite saying. I must have heard in a thousand times in the eighteen years I lived under her roof. It always came at the end of the conversation as she peeled away to see if it was time for Perry Mason or Lawrence Welk. She would turn her head to the side, and over her shoulder she would say, “And the only thing you really have in this world is your family.” Now, thanks to the United States Government, neither we nor our children have that.

. I have three things to say to my children. First, Daddy loves you. Second, you are my three most favorite people in the world. And last, that you are to stick together no matter how old you get or how far apart you live. Because it is like Grandma always said. The only thing you really have in this world is your family.

UPDATE: Apparently some people are confused by the photo in this article – it is of the famous monk self-immolating during the Vietnam war, as indicated by the filename of said photo. Thanks!

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338 Comments

  1. "@Holy – Never once defended the man, simply laughing at your sorry-ass pansy idea of what constitutes abuse"

    Saying that his actions were not abusive is defending him.

    "I’m willing to bet that, like most gun control advocates, you have little or no experience with violence or the darker realities of human nature."

    I'm going to Uganda in 2.5 months. I'm guessing if I showed the people there the things Free Keene calls abuse they would be begging to come live here.

    " The one good thing about growing up with ACTUAL ABUSE is that you learn to laugh at most people who think they are intimidating."

    I find it truly sad that your life experiences have not led you to be more sympathetic towards a child whose father bruises her and makes her bleed.

    I'd like to see you tell her to her face that that's not 'real abuse.'

  2. Josh, you need a gravatar.

  3. "I never said I was against aggression, where are you deriving this from? Not everyone who posts here has the same views. I am not into the “non aggression principle”. I am not into unnecessary or excessive violence. Which I believe slapping his daughter may have been out of line, but not enough to take his fucking kids away."

    So what's the difference between 'out of line' and 'abuse' in your book? What sort of consequences does someone who is 'out of line' deserve?

    And again, I never said his children should have necessarily been taken away…I said he deserved the initial arrest.

    "And you’re right, I don’t typically read your posts. Because you’re a twat. How is that for a personal attack? U MAD?"

    Not mad at all. You're only helping my case by admitting your own ignorance.

  4. I love how Holy Canole takes everything so seriously and doesn't understand trolling or sarcasm. I find this both highly amusing, and somewhat sympathetic. But mostly amusing. I do enjoy a good trolling.

  5. It's about time someone trolled the trolls.

  6. "I love how Holy Canole takes everything so seriously and doesn’t understand trolling or sarcasm. I find this both highly amusing, and somewhat sympathetic. But mostly amusing. I do enjoy a good trolling."

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize you don't take child abuse, or people self immolating seriously.

    I'll try to be more accommodating to your trolling lifestyle in the future and avoid any hard-hitting questions…since you'll just ignore them and make a personal attack instead.

  7. "It’s about time someone trolled the trolls."

    Glad you're taking this so non-seriously too, Ian. Don't want to get any *real* discussions started…let's just talk about trolls and gravatars.

  8. I'd straight up tell her to toughen up. I also agree Ugandans would laugh about what Americans consider "abuse." I am well aware of the horrors Idi Amin perpetrated upon the Ugandan people. Sam's wrist caught in a handcuff is a far cry from the machete Amin and his thugs used on the arms of men, women, and children. When you go to Uganda, tell them a poor little girl was slapped in her pwetty wittle mouf eleven years ago, and how her tummy still hurts to this day. Perhaps next time, she will go the fuck to sleep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTugz1TYbM0

    But seriously, we're trolling you. Because it's hilarious. Was slapping his daughter out of line? Probably. Was the heavy-handed, continual interference in his life by the state an abuse far worse than a slap? Enough that the man had to burn himself into a hole in the sidewalk to make a point to people like you. CPS ever comes to MY house because some nosy twat down the road thinks disciplining an irrational little monster (colloquially known as a child) is "abuse", will get a 50 fold backhand for sticking their face where it doesn't belong. I don't hate children or anything, but I can't stand their inability to behave in a calm and rational manner. That is the purpose of parenting – the guide a child from screaming, bedwetting, teething demon to thoughtful, well adjusted, confident and self-assured human being. Can I get a what-what from all the parents out there?

  9. "So what’s the difference between ‘out of line’ and ‘abuse’ in your book?"

    The difference is that I am not a pussy, and if I got slapped up side the head for being a fuck, then I probably deserved it, even if it was "out of line"

    . If my step dad came home pissed off and decided to smack the shit out of me on a regular basis, I might constitute that as "abuse".

  10. "When you go to Uganda, tell them a poor little girl was slapped in her pwetty wittle mouf eleven years ago, and how her tummy still hurts to this day."

    Actually, Ugandans in general take child abuse very seriously.

    "Perhaps next time, she will go the fuck to sleep."

    Your demeanor is horrifying…trolling or not.

    "I don’t hate children or anything, but I can’t stand their inability to behave in a calm and rational manner."

    Please, PLEASE never have children. You obviously know nothing about child development.

    "But seriously, we’re trolling you. Because it’s hilarious."

    Again, didn't realize you guys think child abuse is funny. Sorry, I'll try to remember that next time a Free Keener is acting like a child.

  11. "The difference is that I am not a pussy, and if I got slapped up side the head for being a fuck, then I probably deserved it, even if it was “out of line”"

    So a 4 year old child who is squirming in bed next to her father is just a 'pussy' that *deserves* a mouth full of blood?

    Please follow the advice I gave to Josh and never have children if this is how you intend to treat them.

  12. "I’ll try to be more accommodating to your trolling lifestyle in the future and avoid any hard-hitting questions…since you’ll just ignore them and make a personal attack instead."

    NOW you get it. Seriously though, it's kind of funny that over and over again I see about 6 or 7 people explaining basic concepts of personal freedom to just you. Over and over again. And you wonder why I don't take you seriously? Don't get me wrong, I have been well known for trolling fellow friends and free keene people. But somehow, they don't take it as personally as you do.

  13. And I'm pretty sure I've taken this situation a bit more seriously than most. As I said, I've lived this man's experiences from the perspective of the child. And no, having significant experience in the realm of receiving abuse, I do not consider this one slap to be grounds to tear his family apart. You know who IS NOT taking the man self-immolating seriously? The city of Keene. The holes his body burned into the pavement were barely cooled before they started scrubbing, filling and painting the site, hoping to wash away what remained of Tom and everything they did to him. Wouldn't want BUSINESS to be put on hold at the courthouse, now would we? They close down on fucking COLUMBUS DAY, yet don't bat an eye when a men burns himself to death on their doorstep. Not one single person who fucked with this man's life will come forward and apologize, or resign their post, or even change the way the conduct "business." The only thing that has changed is Keene's precious, belly-button cute, paper thin veneer of picturesque family BULLSHIT was peeled back to expose the worm-eaten corpse underneath.

  14. "Seriously though, it’s kind of funny that over and over again I see about 6 or 7 people explaining basic concepts of personal freedom to just you. Over and over again. And you wonder why I don’t take you seriously?"

    If you only take people seriously who always eventually abandon their own beliefs for those of others, then I'm *glad* that you don't take me seriously.

    "Don’t get me wrong, I have been well known for trolling fellow friends and free keene people. But somehow, they don’t take it as personally as you do."

    If you think any of the petty insults you guys throw around at me keep me up at night, you're flattering yourself.

  15. AXJ ® seconds that: Thomas James Ball, you are a hero and a true patriot and your death WAS NOT in vein . . . . .We will miss you and will remember your words!
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  16. "Please follow the advice I gave to Josh and never have children if this is how you intend to treat them."

    "Please, PLEASE never have children. You obviously know nothing about child development."

    HOLY SHIT, we got ourselves a child raising expert up in here. Tell us Holy Conole, how do you raise a fucking child? Please, enlighten me. Because I would love to see how you would handle every single scenario possible with hugs and time outs. Which, I will remind you, is how we get hippies. Which is a worse existence then being slapped in the mouth.

  17. "And I’m pretty sure I’ve taken this situation a bit more seriously than most. As I said, I’ve lived this man’s experiences from the perspective of the child. And no, having significant experience in the realm of receiving abuse, I do not consider this one slap to be grounds to tear his family apart."

    I never said it was grounds to tear his family apart. I said he deserved to be arrested. If you say his actions were not abuse, then you obviously disagree, and I don't think that means you take this very seriously.

    "The city of Keene. The holes his body burned into the pavement were barely cooled before they started scrubbing, filling and painting the site, hoping to wash away what remained of Tom and everything they did to him. Wouldn’t want BUSINESS to be put on hold at the courthouse, now would we? They close down on fucking COLUMBUS DAY, yet don’t bat an eye when a men burns himself to death on their doorstep. Not one single person who fucked with this man’s life will come forward and apologize, or resign their post, or even change the way the conduct “business.” The only thing that has changed is Keene’s precious, belly-button cute, paper thin veneer of picturesque family BULLSHIT was peeled back to expose the worm-eaten corpse underneath."

    Oh please. You spend multiple posts trying to convince me that a man making his daughter bleed isn't abusive, and shouldn't be taken very seriously, and then you go and cry about the fact that the place where a man burned to death is being cleaned up?

  18. "HOLY SHIT, we got ourselves a child raising expert up in here. Tell us Holy Conole, how do you raise a fucking child? Please, enlighten me. Because I would love to see how you would handle every single scenario possible with hugs and time outs. Which, I will remind you, is how we get hippies. Which is a worse existence then being slapped in the mouth."

    I don't know anyone who's parents ever physically abused them. It's obviously not impossible….and you don't have to be a hippie to accomplish it.

    If you're planning on going into it with the mindset that a squirming child deserves to be slapped, and if she cries about bleeding she is just being a pussy, you're not qualified to be a parent and my heart goes out to any future children you may have.

  19. The initiation of force is the initiation of force. As good-intentioned as many of the posters are on this site, they are often quick to defend even in instances where more objectivity is required. If we cannot be honest with ourselves, then we cannot be honest at all. To admit what is true does not weaken us, it strengthens us.

    Admittedly, we don't know the truth of Thomas Ball's actions since we weren't there.

    If we are to remain true to our principles, however, it behooves us to be rational and admit to our challenger, Holy Canole, that IF Thomas Ball did indeed strike his daughter, having done so *would* violate the non-aggression principle. Were that the case, we who embrace the Philosophy of Liberty would admonish such an action no matter who enacted it regardless of his or her future circumstances in some other incident. It may sound trite, but it is apropos: No wrong can make another wrong right.

    We are all guilty, at one time or another, of violating the principles we now hold inviolate.

    That said, the abuses Thomas Ball suffered at the hands of the state are also immoral and magnitudes greater in their cost: his family, his livelihood, his hope, and ultimately his life.

    What happened between him and his daughter does not justify what was done to him any more than the reverse. It is unfair to compare the two incidents as if doing so were relevant, as if one might have any moral relation to the other.

    A man slapping his child can be fixed. Loss of hope, home, and finances can be fixed. Death can't. There can be no opportunity for redemption, forgiveness or healing between Thomas and his daughter now and even if there were a way to give Thomas Ball justice for the transgressions against him by the state, it is too little, too late for him.

  20. FACT: I treat my cat better than most people treat their children. I will raise any children I may have (which I will not have until I am financially and professionally able to do so at a long range forecast) to see the world for precisely what it is. They will not know of this Santa Claus or his pet the Easter Bunny. They will laugh at this God nonsense. They will learn and grow and play and develop their own personalities, interests, hobbies, and embark upon their dreams. And I will be the tree under which they can always find comfort and support. But I will not take their shit or be ordered around by a five year old, and will also be the switch on their bottoms. Insinuating I will beat my yet-to-be-conceived children because I think a slap here and there actually builds character is so gravely insulting. You have exhibited the precise character flaw pandemic in the far left – I know better than you so I will send the police to make you live my way. Odds are, my children will be the ones that rescue your wimpy simpletons from the bus stop bully and teaches them about self-reliance, self-confidence and the self-assurance that comes with knowing the world is going to bat you around a hell of a lot in your lifetime. Seriously, go get mugged, or assaulted or have SOME KIND of tangible experience with violence before you go telling people what sociopaths they are. There is a world of difference between a slap and years of systematic abuse.

    I return to the more serious note I began with hours ago: the state does far worse things to children with the Youth Development Center, group homes, foster abusers, reform schools, juvenile facilities, family courts, "counseling centers" than a heavy-handed slap EVER would. The choice to forgive rests with the family alone, not control freak nut-jobs who they the world MUST conform the their personal definitions or the ones they lackadaiscially yanked from a dictionary. I have seen ALL of these things personally or through the portals of dear friends caught in the maw of the state. Experience trumps all.

  21. "Admittedly, we don’t know the truth of Thomas Ball’s actions since we weren’t there."

    But we have the account as told by him…if anyone were going to make it sound like he was innocent, it would be himself, no?

  22. "But I will not take their shit or be ordered around by a five year old, and will also be the switch on their bottoms. Insinuating I will beat my yet-to-be-conceived children because I think a slap here and there actually builds character is so gravely insulting."

    I'm not insinuating it…you just said it yourself.

    "Seriously, go get mugged, or assaulted or have SOME KIND of tangible experience with violence before you go telling people what sociopaths they are."

    You know nothing of my life, so please don't pretend to. And if you don't want people to think you are something, then don't go about excusing actions which make you sound like you are.

    " There is a world of difference between a slap and years of systematic abuse."

    I never said there wasn't. I said that just because one thing is worse, doesn't make it ok for the other thing to happen.

  23. Since I cannot have children, I guess you got your wish canole. But if I did, I would most certainly raise them well. I can bet you top dollar that my children would be well adjusted and well educated. And probably wouldn't NEED to be slapped in the first place. So there you have it. No, I am not going to smack a kid for squirming around. That is just ignorant. But I guess you OBVIOUSLY know better than I do about children. And clearly, I shouldn't have children, but you should be allowed because….?

  24. Will the child burn themselves to death because of a slap 10 years ago? Will the child be filled with a life of regret and tragedy because of the grotesque Kafkaesque actions of the state in this situation?

  25. "Will the child burn themselves to death because of a slap 10 years ago? Will the child be filled with a life of regret and tragedy because of the grotesque Kafkaesque actions of the state in this situation?"

    So now it's ok to do something to someone as long as they won't burn themselves to death because of it?

  26. Additionally, you have no idea how the abuse will impact the child later in her life.

  27. If the kid develops a complex into their adult life from one little slap at the age of four, I think they might have bigger issues. Like, that they are a pussy and should get over it. Are you seriously telling me your parents NEVER slapped you, or grabbed you by the arm? I don't condone slapping a kid so hard it makes them bleed. But a tap upside the head isn't going to permanently scare the child.

    If the police had not been called, and this shit didn't transpire, the kid would probably be fine. Now, I can make a fair assumption this man was well educated, and made a mistake that cost him a lot. Including his ability to keep living.

  28. This incident sparked quite a nerve with me, because as I predicted, people (or at least Canole over here) will come out of the woodwork to sing the praises of the heroes in the courts and CPS that rescued a child from this awful, violent person. CPS will come and take your kids away if your goddamn house is a mess. There are many documented cases of this. Or, if you being argumentative and question the masters of your children at the local school, there are hundreds of stories of vindictive teachers and school administrators filing unwarranted complaints with CPS as a petty revenge tactic. The organization is evil and the references to Kafka (The Trial) are too dead-on to even be sarcastic. The fact remains, Canole, that you openly support a system that tears families apart because you think a slap is unconscionable abuse. You yourself said he should be arrested. And arrested he was, along with having cowards in black robes and pussies behind "psychology degrees" use the state's mercenaries to keep him apart from his children. THAT is the issue at hand, that there exists an organization that claims ownership of even your children and we are all forced to pay for it under threat of violence. Now THAT is true abuse.

  29. But we have the account as told by him…if anyone were going to make it sound like he was innocent, it would be himself, no?

    We have the last words of a desperate, tortured man pushed to the brink recounting something that happened a decade ago. A bit of a skewed perspective to say the least. I can't trust the veracity of it anymore than you trust the saliva/mother comments.

  30. "Are you seriously telling me your parents NEVER slapped you, or grabbed you by the arm? I don’t condone slapping a kid so hard it makes them bleed. But a tap upside the head isn’t going to permanently scare the child."

    We are talking about a child whose father made her bleed and bruised her. I can't believe you would think of calling that girl a 'pussy.'

    And for the record, no, I can't remember my parents ever doing something like that.

  31. "This incident sparked quite a nerve with me, because as I predicted, people (or at least Canole over here) will come out of the woodwork to sing the praises of the heroes in the courts and CPS that rescued a child from this awful, violent person."

    I'm not singing any praises…all I have said is that this man deserved to be held accountable for his actions. Please do not misrepresent my words.

    " The fact remains, Canole, that you openly support a system that tears families apart because you think a slap is unconscionable abuse. You yourself said he should be arrested. "

    Yes. I believe that a man who makes his daughter 'belch blood' deserves to be removed from the house. I'm sorry that you feel this is not a serious offense, but it is.

  32. "We have the last words of a desperate, tortured man pushed to the brink recounting something that happened a decade ago. A bit of a skewed perspective to say the least. I can’t trust the veracity of it anymore than you trust the saliva/mother comments."

    No, actually those quotations I posted were from his website, posted a long time ago. If you're not going to trust that, what would you trust?

  33. "We are talking about a child whose father made her bleed and bruised her. I can’t believe you would think of calling that girl a ‘pussy.’"

    GOD DAMMIT, ARE WE GOING OVER THIS AGAIN? Fuck, I would set myself on fire if I was your child. Jesus wept.

  34. "GOD DAMMIT, ARE WE GOING OVER THIS AGAIN?"

    Yup. Sorry I don't believe that Mr. Ball's daughter was a 'pussy who deserved it' but I happen to find that stance appalling.

  35. Oh, I intend to. It just dawned on me that you probably didn't click the link the first time and completely missed the levity of the original comment. You know, the universal frustration that goes with putting children down to bed. I'm a foul-tempered bastard and I'm easily riled and a little trolling after work is strangely cathartic. I think Tom struck his daughter much harder than he intended to, but the appropriate recourse is not for a bunch of mercs to drag him from his house and a bunch of professional dictators bar him from his family forever. I am only thankful this happened ten years ago and not presently, else they probably would have sent in SWAT. It is abundantly clear that the STATE initiated this decade of horror for this man by intimidating his wife into having him arrested, lest the state remove them BOTH form the lives of their children. If you read Tom's entire final statement, I applaud your attempts at getting to the truth as his words, although containing a call for property damage, was largely informative and critical analysis of the homelessness, despair, and cyclical state dependence CPS and organizations like it create.

  36. "Oh, I intend to. It just dawned on me that you probably didn’t click the link the first time and completely missed the levity of the original comment."

    No, I got it. Just still didn't think it was funny at all, given the context.

    "You know, the universal frustration that goes with putting children down to bed. I’m a foul-tempered bastard and I’m easily riled and a little trolling after work is strangely cathartic. I think Tom struck his daughter much harder than he intended to, but the appropriate recourse is not for a bunch of mercs to drag him from his house and a bunch of professional dictators bar him from his family forever."

    It doesn't matter how hard he intended to strike her….what matters is that he intended to strike her at all.

    And I think it is absolutely appropriate that he be removed from the situation, at least temporarily, which is all I have defended thus far.

    " It is abundantly clear that the STATE initiated this decade of horror for this man by intimidating his wife into having him arrested, lest the state remove them BOTH form the lives of their children."

    No, TOM initiated the force when he struck his daughter.

    "If you read Tom’s entire final statement, I applaud your attempts at getting to the truth as his words, although containing a call for property damage, was largely informative and critical analysis of the homelessness, despair, and cyclical state dependence CPS and organizations like it create."

    I did read it, but as I said I have yet to form an opinion on the matter seeing as we only have this one, very biased source about this case at the moment.

  37. <No, actually those quotations I posted were from his website, posted a long time ago. If you’re not going to trust that, what would you trust?

    Empirical evidence.

  38. "Empirical evidence."

    Empirical evidence on a decade-old abuse incident? What would that look like exactly if not an admission of guilt by the perpetrator?

  39. And it is rather late. I did relentlessly bust your balls, or lady-bits as it were, but I do appreciate that you actually engage in thoughtful conversation and want to address the issues, even if we come at them from opposing ends. I'll share a secret with you: the world is a horrible joke interrupted by brief moments of brilliance and beauty. Learning to make a joke out of most things makes dealing with the harsh realities of existence a bit easier (ala: go the fuck to sleep.) The lesson to take from the tragedy of Thomas Ball is that there are millions out there like him, who have had their lives irrevocably torn asunder by the state. When you take so much from a man for so long, he eventually realizes the only thing he still has control over is his own life and rushes to extinguish it before the state takes that away form him as well.

  40. Josh,

    While I disagree with you on many points (what constitutes abuse, whether or not certain situations should be made fun of in order to deal with them, etc.) I also appreciate your effort to engage in real, substantive discussions sans trivial, personal attacks, and that you stand up for your beliefs–which is more than can be said for a lot of people.

    It's doubtful that we'll ever see eye to eye on certain issues, but exposing each other to opposing view points is valuable in its own right. That is mainly the reason I visit this site–despite many people insisting that I am merely a troll–because it is always good to make sure you can actually *defend* your beliefs, not just scream them from a soap box. And defending your beliefs doesn't necessarily mean convincing all other people that they are right, either, because there are always going to be people who disagree.

    So while we may have varying perspectives on this event, and its broader implications, I appreciate your taking time to defend your side of the story.

    …but don't think this means I'm going to let up on the debate :p

  41. It doesn’t matter how hard he intended to strike her….what matters is that he intended to strike her at all.

    Intent is irrelevant. I can intend to grow wings on my back. Until I do, trying to fly would be bad idea. What matters is action, whether or not the act *was* committed, not whether is *might* be.

    And I think it is absolutely appropriate that he be removed from the situation, at least temporarily, which is all I have defended thus far.

    The problem with that is that you have, in all other cases I am of aware of, advocated that such separation be conducted by the agents of the state *rather* than a legitimate interested party seeking honest resolution such as the wife or the grandparents.

    Instead, the state gets involved because they can, not because they have any intent to resolve a problem or help anyone. It's a power grab and everyone involved but the state is worse of for it.

    No, TOM initiated the force when he struck his daughter.

    He may have initiated force against his daughter but that is a separate incident from the state initiating force on him. Both would be immoral, albeit of different magnitudes.

    It's like me punching my neighbor in the mouth one day (which is wrong and between him and I) and some random group of people from Tanzania who heard about it coming to my house, burning it down, and riddling me full of lead.

  42. "Intent is irrelevant. I can intend to grow wings on my back. Until I do, trying to fly would be bad idea. What matters is action, whether or not the act *was* committed, not whether is *might* be."

    …ok….so what matters is that he intended to and *did* strike her. My point remains that it doesn't matter how hard he intended to strike her.

    "The problem with that is that you have, in all other cases I am of aware of, advocated that such separation be conducted by the agents of the state *rather* than a legitimate interested party seeking honest resolution such as the wife or the grandparents."

    Um, what other cases are you aware of where I have advocated that?

    "Instead, the state gets involved because they can, not because they have any intent to resolve a problem or help anyone. It’s a power grab and everyone involved but the state is worse of for it."

    Actually, the state got involved when his wife called them.

    "He may have initiated force against his daughter but that is a separate incident from the state initiating force on him. Both would be immoral, albeit of different magnitudes."

    No, it's not an isolated incident at all. Tom struck his daughter, his wife called the cops. All of the 'force initiated against him' from that point on stemmed from that initial strike.

    Whether or not the proceeding events were *moral* or *just* may be under scrutiny, but when Tom initiated force against his daughter, he also initiated the consequences which would inevitably follow.

  43. People,

    It is quite clear that holy_canole is successfully distracting you.

    Perhaps you should ask her why she does not want you to focus on why Mr. Ball took his own life in clear rebuke to your justice system.

    Ms Canole… are you by any chance related to someone in the Justice system?

    What exactly is your motive for your misdirection?

  44. "Ms Canole… are you by any chance related to someone in the Justice system?

    What exactly is your motive for your misdirection?"

    Haha no, I am not. And I'm not misdirecting anything….the abuse of Mr. Ball's child is just as much a part of this story as anything else.

  45. I do not buy it. Ms Canole.

    Your rationalization hamster is at full tilt. It is quite clear you have an agenda.

    Can you clearly state that you have no relatives or friends with relatives in the Justice System.

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