Public Letters to Ian Freeman

These are some letters from friends of Ian writing to him in jail. One reply from Ian is included. Permission was granted from all parties to publish to Free Keene.

From Jordan to Ian:
Dear Ian,
I know we have never spoken to each other at great lengths. It’s odd that I now correspond with you with eyes most likely reading my message to you. Isn’t it odd? How did we get to this point as a society? When I sit and think about this nation and what it values, the dishonesty which has been normalized sickens me. Perhaps it is because of Thelema. Let me explain. To my understanding, this nation was formed by members of what is called the Hellfire Club as some sort of practical joke. You see, my grandfather in his youth was a kind person. When I knew him, years of Republican brainwashing turned him into a racist, hateful individual. I’ve come by logic to realize that the “right” is actually ran by those who seek to torture its constituents and likewise with the Democratic party. What are we to do? The path to true freedom, as childish as it sounds, must be through love and non-violence. This is why I am writing to you. I’ll withstand the pursuing eye of men who have seen the Head of John the Baptist, and have sworn loyalty to finding their light through evil acts. That is not for us. As I write you this letter, I am one with you. These experiences of beastly flesh are not who we truly are. The energetic life force which may be difficult to feel for you is alive and connects you to me. One day, I will sit across the table from you, and as our eyes meet we will both know that we are free and sovereign individuals. No laws, edicts, codes, or executive orders can limit the infinity of our being. Through my eyes, no matter what you have done or will do in the future can prevent love and forgiveness. In the history of existence, the tyranny that now governs our existences in the present will be but a blink. Feel the pain that exists and let that guide you. Know that hatred is the easy choice. It is what is expected of you in this moment, but taking the path of forgiveness towards those that now imprison you will bring your liberty and life back into your hands. Please know that through my eyes, you are held by unethical men who who are slaves to systems they themselves despise. It is not possible maintain employment in either judicial or correctional positions and escape the torment of the soul. Set, and his works, now guide the path of our governance. We have despised his brother Osiris as a despot, but perhaps fairness and ethical treatment were more common in the times of kings. These times too are passing. The balance of creation and destruction are only a few steps away. As I end this letter, please know that I view you as a free and sovereign individual. In my eyes you are a free man and are under a system that no longer has the will of God. You are held close to my heart, and when we transition to a more peaceful existence, you are always welcome in my home.
Sincerely, Jordan

From Ian to Jordan Dated April 10, 2021:
Dear Jordan,
Sorry for the delayed reply. Only this weekend did I finally get commissary access and received my first order of stamps and paper. Next week I’ll actually have a pen!!
Of the several letters I have received so far, yours is my favorite. You touched on some ideas that I also hold dear, like practicing forgiveness and being one with all-that-is. As a pantheist, I suspect you and I share many beliefs.
Many would find it difficult to forgive the people who smashed windows and doors in of their home and intend to hold its occupants in cages for many years. However, as you know, forgiveness is for you, not the people being forgiven. Forgiveness allows one to shed anger and negativity, to release those self-imposed burdens. It helps too, to realize that I could just as easily have been like them, as the only difference between them and me are mere choices.
Your letter says they find light through evil acts, but they surely believe they are doing good- with the exception of the true psychopaths- otherwise they would not do these things.
Unfortunately , these people have chosen the state as their god, and so they have allowed their sense of morality to be controlled by other men, including sociopaths and psychopaths. Like so many, they live based in fear, and look to the state for their protection and strength.
Which leads me back to the questions in your first paragraph: “Isn’t it odd? How did we get to this point as a society?”
While the system forced upon us is no doubt inhumane, anti-peace, destructive, etc., societies before this were worse in many ways. While we know the state pays lip service to the idea of “rights”, it at least has to pay lip service. While it is wrong for them to keep me in a cage and expect me to be able to mount a defense from in here, I am at least clothed and well-fed. Though restricted, I can still speak out against my captors. It’s not ideal, but it beats being pronounced guilty on-sight and subsequently drawn-and-quartered. Progress has always been a terribly slow, awful process. Barring a Renaissance in thinking to our way of thought, society will trudge toward more freedoms and humanity to our fellow man, slowly.
I suppose the answer to how we got to this point in society is “it depends on your perspective”. Violence worldwide is at record lows, so they say. However, incarceration in the United States leads the world’s developed nations.
As you rightly put it in your letter, “hatred is the easy choice”. Indeed, to a person ruled by fear, hatred is the natural choice. The state thrives on propagating fear, and therefore hatred is the result. Fear/hate of the “other,” whether it be people from other lands, other skin colors, or differing beliefs about god. As long as people fear others, they will never see themselves as one with them. Until enough people shift from fear to love, the state will continue.
You ask, “What are we to do?”. I think the deliberate migration of which we are both a part is still the best plan, but I’m always open to new ideas. We should continue speaking out and taking principled actions in the name of peace, love, freedom and forgiveness.
Thank you for being an advocate of forgiveness. It is such an important practice and many within the liberty movement do not understand it. They are still stuck in anger/ hatred/ fear towards the state society. They want to punish the state actors and don’t realize that such action would only continue the cycle of violence, and ultimately not make the state’s victims whole.
Basically, we’ve got a lot of work to do, even within our own liberty movement, to convince people that forgiveness and peace is the way.
I appreciate your perspective and am grateful you took the time to write. I think your letter and this reply might make a good blog-from-jail, as more people should be exposed to these ideas. I am sending your letter and this reply first to Bonnie and I’ll have her scan them in before sending to you. I hope you’ll agree to having them shared online.
Namaste,
Ian

Joa to Ian:
To my Peace-Loving-Friend,
There hasn’t been a day since the terrorist attack on you and the rest of the Crypto 6, [that I don’t think,] where-ever I am, about where you and Nobody are being held. I hope at the very least you are treated well. These cages wont stop an idea whose time has come. You still are inspiring so many even while kidnapped by the bankster-gangsters. These goons don’t think you should have bail, yet their own gooberment employees have their way with kids in the youth detention nearby. You are peaceful, they are the aggressors. They have bails set and one of them is asking for bail reduction. He held a gun to a child’s head while raping the kid. Yet you sit in jail as a peace-loving, peace-solution-solving, wealth-growing, stand-up individual in these trying times. Those who seek to take away our time, may very well see their own fate either in this life-time or the next. The love grows in the community. Everyone at Campmoreland misses you. As you read this, I am in between gathering wood for a fire and tending to the chickens. Can’t wait to see you and Nobody again, hopefully very soon. Love you brother! Stay safe!
-Joa

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107 Comments

  1. I *might* read lfod response though he’s shown himself to be a liar under the under a fake name.
    I guess LFOD is using his *Freedom to say lies under a fake name;
    he has the freedom to be a garbage human being.
    Jumping jack is a liar under a fake name too, but he’s gotten the benefit of the doubt and that time is over.
    Ian gives both of those two the freedom to say whatever they want on this forum, but that doesn’t mean I have to read it.
    ?

  2. I guess GZ salivates at the notion of child porn also.
    Could it be that they didn’t find that porn because it wasn’t there and not because of encryption.
    You asserted that it was the encryption that saved people.
    Tell us how you *know that?
    Perhaps you and lfod should both go down to the FBI together seeing as you have this knowledge.
    Most people don’t have that stuff on their computer because they don’t have that f****** stuff on their computer.

  3. “oh the FBI didn’t bust through the encryption because it was too hard”
    “But it was there”
    Sell that garbage to someone else GZ

  4. I guess it was worth it for the FBI to create a create a childporn site which is easy to find out about this but I think that operation was shut down because the FBI was creating a childporn site!
    So creating a child porn site is Aokay to get the culprits but the kids ain’t worth busting through the encryption. I mean “we went through all this expense and expenditure and things but we can’t get through the encryption; it’s just a bridge too far for the kiddos.

  5. David, why so hostile?

    I was actually giving Ian the benefit of the doubt. I don’t think there’s enough evidence to suggest that he had child porn on his computer. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did considering his views, but I don’t think they found anything.

    What is my basis for saying that their devices were encrypted? Well, TJ Parker admitted that some of the devices were encrypted in an interview. It is likely that the FBI either couldn’t get through the encryption, or could but decided that the case was too weak to waste resources on it, given that multiple people likely had access to the computers at the house and it would be hard to pin on Ian.

    “Most people don’t have that stuff on their computer because they don’t have that f****** stuff on their computer.”

    Most people also don’t visit child porn sites.

  6. “I guess it was worth it for the FBI to create a create a childporn site..”

    Important distinction: the FBI didn’t create the site, they took it over for two weeks in order to get all of the pedophiles locked away.

    Still controversial (and I am not sure I agree with it), but not quite the same as you are portraying.

  7. All you have to do is read what I said to know “why so hostile”.
    It’s plain and clear if you read it.
    You’re on the borderline of being ignored too; there’s no ignored button here but I can do it.

  8. No, reading what you’ve written didn’t really clarify anything.

    Ignore me if you’d like. Whatever gets you to calm down.

    Have a pleasant day!

  9. I read your post “response” to what I said.
    It was full of logical fallacies.
    And evasions.

  10. Don’t lie, that will make me calm down..
    And it will make my day more pleasant.
    Mark that

  11. I’m not doing a point by point response to someone who Dodges evades and doesn’t own what they just said.
    I’m finding out that you’re full of shit GZ

  12. GZ “what is the basis for saying that their devices were encrypted”
    Why didn’t you use one of your much loved cut and pastes of what I said for that one?
    Answer: you are dishonest and wanted to twist it to fit your narrative.
    liar

  13. “I read your post “response” to what I said.
    It was full of logical fallacies.
    And evasions.”

    Do you feel like expanding? I thought my comments were pretty fleshed out, but I am curious to hear your perspective.

  14. GZ ” no reading what you’ve written really didn’t clarify anything” :
    Try harder
    It’s pretty easy

  15. “GZ “what is the basis for saying that their devices were encrypted”
    Why didn’t you use one of your much loved cut and pastes of what I said for that one?
    Answer: you are dishonest and wanted to twist it to fit your narrative.
    liar”

    Well, if you read this VICE article you’ll notice a quote from TJ Park that says some devices were encrypted.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/53d9jn/fbi-raid-radio-station-following-child-porn-hack

  16. Example of evasion: your previous statement said they couldn’t get to the child porn because of encryption.
    You’re more recent response was oh *they did too have encryption.”
    So that’s a Dodge and an invasion I’m not playing f****** games with you I have no patience for stupid games.
    That is a logical fallacy that is an evasion you’re a smart guy don’t pretend like you don’t know that.
    I have no patience for your nonsense

  17. “Example of evasion: your previous statement said they couldn’t get to the child porn because of encryption.
    You’re more recent response was oh *they did too have encryption.””

    Those statements don’t contradict each other.

  18. GZ.. Learn to argue and come back.
    I’m not arguing with someone who I have to *teach how to argue,; I don’t have the time maybe others do.
    Like you said, have a pleasant day.
    Bye lol

  19. I will say I liked the discussion you had about the constitution..I read most of it… So there’s that ?

  20. First you said the FBI couldn’t get to the porn because of encryption.
    Then when I called you on that.
    You said “I just said they had encryption”
    Right? LoL
    Lots of people have encryption and they aren’t hiding porn.
    I’m done

  21. Creepy Crawford:
    Your unhinged, profane rantings are an embarrassment to yourself and to Free Keene.
    I fully realize that others had access to the computer and make no specific allegations regarding Mr. Freeman and whatever was on the computer. However, the warrant was issued for “possession or distribution of child pornography”. To quote directly from the Concord Monitor(March 22, 2016):

    “Even before police arrived at his home and confiscated his phone and computers Sunday, Ian Freeman was taking heat for his publicly expressed view on the age of sexual consent.

    “I don’t think that there should be some arbitrary, government-chosen age. I think each individual is different” he said in a phone interview.

    But last week, the Free State Project cut ties with Freeman, banning him from events and ending a sponsorship agreement with his show, Free Talk Live.

    In a statement, the Free State Project said Freeman’s “statements regarding the age of consent” put the larger movement at risk of being associated with his opinions.

    And, yes, GZ, Mr. Freeman has tried unsuccessfully to make his residence tax free as a “Church”. This was rejected by the City Board of Assessors.

  22. lfod .. now your back tracking.. because someone called you on your garbage… here’s some more profanity for you: youre a fucking moron

  23. David Crawford – You saw what I wrote or you would not have responded.

  24. “And, yes, GZ, Mr. Freeman has tried unsuccessfully to make his residence tax free as a “Church”. This was rejected by the City Board of Assessors.”

    That doesn’t surprise me. Couldn’t he have at least pretended it was a church better? It’s obvious to everyone and their brother that it’s not a real church. City assessors aren’t that dumb.

  25. “First you said the FBI couldn’t get to the porn because of encryption.
    Then when I called you on that.
    You said “I just said they had encryption”
    Right? LoL
    Lots of people have encryption and they aren’t hiding porn.
    I’m done”

    Right… The FBI either couldn’t get to the porn do to the encryption, or they didn’t put in the effort to decrypt it because they didn’t have a strong enough case and it wasn’t worth their time.

    Sure, lots of people have encryption and no porn. There is no proof that Ian had child porn on his computer. I haven’t said anything to the contrary. I have speculated as to why the FBI couldn’t find porn on his computers. That’s it.

    Now, I suspect somebody at that address was visiting the child porn website, since the FBI doesn’t just execute search warrants for no reason. Who visited the child porn website? No idea. It could be Ian, it could be one of the other Free Keene people.

  26. also lfod… you are defiling the state moniker with your garbage..
    you should Get a spine and defile your own name with that garbage that would be the honorable thing to do, Not that expect *you to do the honorable thing… on the contrary you do the garbage thing usually

  27. Oh, but if I had to guess who visited the child porn site, I think I would start with the guy that openly expressed that he is a bit flexible on the age of consent.

  28. yes GZ… you’ve already determined guilt.. that’s clear
    Luckily courts need more than hunches
    Here arethe facts the cops busted into Ians house and stole his stuff.
    The newspapers plasted child porn all over the place in relation to Ian
    No links to child porn were found on any of the electrical devices .
    So Ian’s name was dragged through the mud with the worst defilement one can perpetrate on another person.
    To the degree that It’s still happening with you GZ And other people in this forum
    That’s because sickos like you just get giddy at the idea of child porn and wanna harp on it forever
    go away

  29. ok…i read more of what you said… for one, tons people go through Ian’s house and possibly use the internet . Could be hundreds depending on the time span they’re looking at..
    You didn’t just didn’t speculate as to why they couldn’t find it, you suggested that it was there.

  30. you didn’t Consider another option: It could have been one of the many many people who passed through Ian’s house and moved on long ago.
    It could have also been somebody that stole in there by night sat on the porch use the internet somehow just to set Ian up.
    That’s another option.
    The timing of when those sites were visited would play a big role in determining who it was

  31. They don’t zero into a particular computer they zero into the internet that is at that house.
    You keep talking like it’s definitely in Ian’s computer and that’s not true.
    Unless I am not aware of the idea that they can in fact zoom into 1 particular computer because that’s the way you’re talking.
    My understanding is that they cannot zoom into a particular computer only the houses internet.

  32. GZ.. Ian has been playing taxes on multiple properties in NH for years.
    Let’s about you: How many properties are you paying taxes on?

  33. “That’s because sickos like you just get giddy at the idea of child porn…”

    Huh? I’m not sure where you are pulling that from.

    “ok…i read more of what you said… for one, tons people go through Ian’s house and possibly use the internet . Could be hundreds depending on the time span they’re looking at..
    You didn’t just didn’t speculate as to why they couldn’t find it, you suggested that it was there.”

    Maybe. That’s probably why the FBI dropped the case.

    “You keep talking like it’s definitely in Ian’s computer and that’s not true.”

    How do you know? It could be in his computer. We don’t know. He gets the presumption of innocence legally, but last time I checked I am not the legal system. I think it is likely that somebody from the house accessed the kiddie porn site, and to me the most suspicious person at the house is the guy that has publicly said he doesn’t believe in an age of consent.

    With that being said, I don’t know if Ian is into kiddie porn, or if he had it on his computer. He could be, he could not be. I’m not going to let kids near him anytime soon though.

  34. “GZ.. Ian has been playing taxes on multiple properties in NH for years.
    Let’s about you: How many properties are you paying taxes on?”

    My business is not your business. Why do you care? How is this relevant to what we are talking about?

  35. Mark has a son and he’s around Ian all the time Mark actually knows Ian.
    You lie about Ian.
    …. Gossiping liars like you are the reason anyone would have concerns In that regard you lie you’ve lied numerous times in this thread.
    And those lies that you told will give other people worries that’s why you shouldn’t lie like that. That’s why there are laws against slander.

  36. Gz im done talking to a evasive liar .
    you are a lying douche bag

  37. So you don’t pay property taxes.. not a shocker

  38. Put your name to your nonsense.. coward
    spare me your nonsense excuse for not .. As it is you’re a liar with a fake name

  39. GZ, you don’t know how to argue.
    That, or you do, but play games
    You seemed smart so I gave you the benefit of the doubt
    But I guess I learned that you aren’t smart as I thought you were

  40. “Mark has a son and he’s around Ian all the time Mark actually knows Ian.”

    So?

    “You lie about Ian.”

    How so?

    “…. Gossiping liars like you are the reason anyone would have concerns In that regard you lie you’ve lied numerous times in this thread.”

    When?

    “And those lies that you told will give other people worries that’s why you shouldn’t lie like that. That’s why there are laws against slander.”

    Again, when did I lie?

    “Gz im done talking to a evasive liar .
    you are a lying douche bag”

    Tell me how you really feel.

    “So you don’t pay property taxes.. not a shocker”

    Not what I said, but you are welcome to infer from my statement whatever you wish.

    “Put your name to your nonsense.. coward
    spare me your nonsense excuse for not .. As it is you’re a liar with a fake name”

    No thank you. I am anonymous on the internet as one can be.

    “GZ, you don’t know how to argue.
    That, or you do, but play games
    You seemed smart so I gave you the benefit of the doubt
    But I guess I learned that you aren’t smart as I thought you were”

    Oh, David. You are pretty funny. Your arguments thus far have consisted of insults and partially comprehensible sentences.

  41. GZ… look up what a logical fallacy is
    I thought people naturally knew what it was but maybe you don’t so go I thought people naturally knew what it was but maybe you don’t! so go study that and come back.
    peace out

  42. “GZ… look up what a logical fallacy is
    I thought people naturally knew what it was but maybe you don’t so go I thought people naturally knew what it was but maybe you don’t! so go study that and come back.
    peace out”

    Well, I’ve looked them up. It looks like I am okay. You might want to refresh your memory of them yourself.

  43. Yeah this is an unmoderated troll playground with plenty of people with hidden agendas and such.

    It would be a mistake to seek intellectually honest debate here.

    For me it can be fun to spar with the trolls on their terms while knowing full well what I’m getting myself into. Seeing what lies under the surface in the human psyche of some people can be quite sad, but it is what it is. God save us all.

  44. I’m glad you read 1984 in high school, gz. Everyone should! Now the next hope is to not become exactly like the story’s antagonists. Baby steps, I know…

  45. “I think if your friends are Free Keene types then you have a significantly warped perspective of how the public views things.”

    Gz this is another example of what is meant by intellectually dishonest debate. If you disagree that there is a wide spectrum of views held by the general public about the legitimacy of government, then tell me what leads you to that conclusion. Who my friends or your friends are aren’t relevant to the discussion. I’m sure that I could fire up google and find plenty of resources outside of my circle of friends that could back up what I’m saying, and perhaps you could too.

    I’m not saying I’ve had good form in debate either. I’m just singling you out because you acted like you had no idea what David was talking about when he started raising hell about it. Like I said in an earlier form, we shouldn’t expect to find intellectually honest debate in a forum like this.

  46. earlier post*

  47. “Gz this is another example of what is meant by intellectually dishonest debate. If you disagree that there is a wide spectrum of views held by the general public about the legitimacy of government, then tell me what leads you to that conclusion.”

    That wasn’t what I was arguing. You can find all kinds of people that have all kinds of ideas. I was arguing that the vast majority of the public views the government as legitimate. So while the range of ideas held is wide, the average and standard deviation is narrow.

    What kind of data will convince you that the general public supports the legitimacy of the government? It’s so obvious that I wouldn’t think it needs explanation, and yet here we are.

  48. So if we agree there’s a spectrum, then it seems we disagree about the average and standard deviation.

    I’m not sure you could give me any data that would be convincing. I’ve worked with the public enough and hundreds or probably thousands of people have shared their unsolicited views about government for me to reach the conclusion I have. You have probably had the same, and still reached a different conclusion. Confirmation bias on one or both sides perhaps?

    I doubt any data you could find would be a surprise.

    The government being a mob is a common view. Many many people view things in a similar way to bloggers here without even having heard of FreeKeene.

    If you’re saying FK activism or all activism in has been for nothing, then I disagree. Its like saying that water doesn’t work on a fire because the fire is still raging. No, it just means there is more work to do, as Ian wrote in the above letter.

  49. “The government being a mob is a common view. Many many people view things in a similar way to bloggers here without even having heard of FreeKeene.”

    I suspect that viewpoint ebbs and flows depending on which guy is in power, and whether or not they got pulled over and ticketed that week.

    I suppose the core of the issue is that people’s inaction to change the government is proof enough to me that they view it as legitimate. Even when people protest, (with the exception of FK, which you have to admit is a minority) they are mostly protesting how the government treats them or that their guy should be in charge, not that the government shouldn’t exist at all.

    “If you’re saying FK activism or all activism in has been for nothing, then I disagree. Its like saying that water doesn’t work on a fire because the fire is still raging. No, it just means there is more work to do, as Ian wrote in the above letter.”

    I guess time will tell. Sometimes it is futile to put water on a fire. By all means, do what gives you meaning. Just try not to commit federal crimes that bring the government down on you, unless you like jail.

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