Right Wing Crazies & Libertarians Join In On Socialist Rally To Defund The Police With Hilarious Results

Defund the police rally in Keene, NH

A socialist led organization the NH Youth Movement has been rallying its troops across NH this past week in an effort to get cities and towns to defund their police forces. However the rally that was planned for Keene didn’t go quite as the organizers expected.

While there isn’t a significant socialist presence in New Hampshire there are plenty of socialists in surrounding states that from time to time muster up the occasional rally in NH through the busing in of left wing extremists. This is particularly easy to do in Cheshire with the county neighboring Vermont and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts being right next door plus students from out of town attending Keene State College.

A few days before the rally was to occur the Keene City Republican Committee Chair Anne L. Farrington got wind of the socialists organizing of a protest and rallied her opposition country-folk to attend a counter protest for the same time and date.

“We want to show our support for law enforcement by coming out in strength to Back the Badge! The rally will be in Central Square tomorrow from 5:30pm-8:00pm. Please join us and bring friends who support our police!”

– Anne L. Farrington

This attempt at undermining the NH Youth Movement’s protest turned out to be as hilarious as one might have anticipated. Not so much because there were people shouting back and forth, but in that it appeared that the rally attracted all of one intentional NH Youth Movement member and another five or so socialists who just happened upon the Republican’s counter-protest.

To make for an entertaining afternoon a handful of libertarians got together to join in on the fun making a few signs in advance of the event, saying things both opposing sides would theoretically agree with and disagree with at the same time, like “Defund the pigs & end socialism”. Is it a socialist protest? Is it a right wing protest? Who knows, but certainly the passerbys didn’t quite follow what was going on with all the shouting from every side and direction. Both from protesters and from passing cars alike.

After numerous conversations with the right-wing nut jobs and left wing extremists it turned out that each side had a lot in common. Both the republicans and the socialists were in favor of socialist programs, but the agenda for which programs to fund and defund were different. The young socialists wanted to see free college tuition and police dollars redistributed to other social programs like housing the homeless. The counter protesters expressed a desire to continue funding social security and the police state.

What both the left and right failed to grasp was that the money doesn’t exist to fund all of these programs. The use of violence and the state to take money from the populous only works up to a point before that theft becomes so great that it undermines the revenues that can be generated. This leads to a failure of the programs both sides are trying to fund through theft.

Now this doesn’t mean that all parties can’t get what they want, but the means by which those funds are raised must not be through the violence that is the state. The overhead of state mandated programs is significant, the inefficiencies great, and the ever increasing amounts undermining to the objectives of both sides.

When the state gets involved a significant portion of the revenues generated are eaten up by the extraction of those funds from the populous and the overhead of management- not to mention corruption. When people are left to decide for themselves by comparison individuals pick the least expensive options which deliver the maximum benefit thus reducing costs and making such services affordable. Between competing offerings individuals can afford to pay for college when competition is left to run its course, government isn’t handing out ‘free’ money, and security (policing) doesn’t cost six figures per employee. Lets end all of the social welfare programs: Police, education, health care, social security, corporate welfare, and so on, and then hand back the financial resources to the people by eliminating the taxes that make these programs perform poorly as only then will those dollars stolen be best and most efficiently utilized.

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86 Comments

  1. “Well there ya have it. The welfare state creating welfare dependency.’

    I don’t necessarily think welfare creates dependency per se, but many of these programs do have a welfare cliff, which is to the detriment of both the individual and society. The answer isn’t to eliminate these programs though, it is to improve them so people are incentivized to be more productive and ultimately get off of them (if possible.)

  2. That’s nice. Thing is, it’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true.

    Incidentally, why is it you libtard weirdos always think everyone within earshot should care about what you do for a living? It’s always “I’m a doctoral candidate” or “My wife’s a schoolteacher” or “I work in an aquatic zoo shoveling manatee crap” with you guys. We get it, gz. You have a job. A lot of people have those. No one thinks that’s special.

    Anyway, Intrigare makes a good point. Welfare recipients are most certainly dependent upon government. Politicians know this too. They also know that promising to expand government benefits is a surefire way to buy votes. Remember the Obamaphone?

  3. “The answer isn’t to eliminate these programs though, it is to improve them so people are incentivized to be more productive and ultimately get off of them (if possible.)”

    Put lipstick on a pig much?

  4. “Remember the Obamaphone?”

    Lol. More recently, remember President Trump’s signature on stimulus checks?

    I think gz missed one of my posts back there too but shhh don’t tell him.

  5. “That’s nice. Thing is, it’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true.”

    It seems like responding to me about this is more effort than to just link the articles that prove your point. I guess you can’t, so this remains a conspiracy theory.

    “Incidentally, why is it you libtard weirdos always think everyone within earshot should care about what you do for a living? It’s always “I’m a doctoral candidate” or “My wife’s a schoolteacher” or “I work in an aquatic zoo shoveling manatee crap” with you guys. We get it, gz. You have a job. A lot of people have those. No one thinks that’s special.”

    I brought it up because it is relevant. I know how to do research. It would be like doubting a lumberjacks ability to chop down trees. He’s going to bring up the fact that he is a lumberjack.

    “Anyway, Intrigare makes a good point. Welfare recipients are most certainly dependent upon government. Politicians know this too. They also know that promising to expand government benefits is a surefire way to buy votes. Remember the Obamaphone?”

    They are dependent on government, sure. So what? Would you rather they starve and be homeless? We can worry about getting them to be productive members of society once their basic needs have been met.

    I don’t think expanding welfare is the silver bullet you think it is for politicians. Many people are resistant to expanding welfare services.

    I also never understood why it was called the Obamaphone. The lifeline program started under Reagan, and it expanded to cellular service under George W. Bush. I am glad that people have a way to call emergency services if they can’t afford phone service.

  6. Put lipstick on a pig much?

    I’d rather do that then throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    “Lol. More recently, remember President Trump’s signature on stimulus checks?”

    That was gaudy as hell. He caught a lot of flack for that. It didn’t seem to help his reelection chances much either.

    “I think gz missed one of my posts back there too but shhh don’t tell him.”

    Oh well.

  7. Stimulus? Yeah! Yeah! I remember!

    Anyway, Intrigare, the gloriouszorn has obviously thought this whole thing through – right down to the smallest detail. Well not really, but I’m sure the guy he’s voting for next has. And don’tcha worry, that guy’s gonna be the right one this time. Promise.

    Oh, and my lips are sealed. 😉

  8. Got it. Conspiracy theories. Lumberjacks. Oh, and I should never forget the starving and the homeless because your side obviously cares more about them than ours does.

    Anyway, I’m sure you’re the best researcher in your field, gz. It’s just hard for me to ignore the fact that you can’t even spend one hour on your favorite search engine looking to see where things might take you. I know, I know. None of this really matters because the deplorables did it. Don Lemon says so. Say, didja know his aunt was one of the Solid Gold Dancers? Small world, huh?

  9. “Got it. Conspiracy theories. Lumberjacks. Oh, and I should never forget the starving and the homeless because your side obviously cares more about them than ours does.”

    You said it, not me.

    “Anyway, I’m sure you’re the best researcher in your field, gz”

    Not really, but it doesn’t take a lot of skill to see that your claim isn’t based in anything.

    “It’s just hard for me to ignore the fact that you can’t even spend one hour on your favorite search engine looking to see where things might take you.”

    It’s hard for me to ignore that you can’t even copy-paste a link that proves your point. That’s what, 15 seconds tops?

    “I know, I know. None of this really matters because the deplorables did it. Don Lemon says so. Say, didja know his aunt was one of the Solid Gold Dancers? Small world, huh?”

    I don’t even know what you are on about.

  10. Uh huh. It takes even less skill to stick your fingers in your ears and mark anything critical of the COVID Pope as a conspiracy theory.

    Sheesh. You’d think an ambitious researcher like yourself could show some initiative just this once and check things out for himself. You know, just like I did with Don Lemon. Oh well. At least you managed to uncover our side’s secret plan of wiping out the starving and the homeless. So there’s that.

    Anyway, I have loads of other fun facts to contribute if your interested. For instance, didja know that Jim Nabors owned a macadamia nut farm in Maui? I’m not kidding. Look it up. He also got Hepatitis B from sexing up a bunch of Indian dudes in a Turkish bath house in Mumbai. Gross, right?

  11. “Uh huh. It takes even less skill to stick your fingers in your ears and mark anything critical of the COVID Pope as a conspiracy theory.”

    I’m waiting for your proof.

    Sheesh. You’d think an ambitious researcher like yourself could show some initiative just this once and check things out for himself. You know, just like I did with Don Lemon. Oh well. At least you managed to uncover our side’s secret plan of wiping out the starving and the homeless. So there’s that.

    Or you could provide proof of your claims. I also don’t think you plan on wiping on the starving and homeless. Rather, it is an unfortunate side effect of your political philosophy.

    “Anyway, I have loads of other fun facts to contribute if your interested. For instance, didja know that Jim Nabors owned a macadamia nut farm in Maui? I’m not kidding. Look it up. He also got Hepatitis B from sexing up a bunch of Indian dudes in a Turkish bath house in Mumbai. Gross, right?”

    Great. How about you look up that proof?

  12. I guess I did miss your post, Intrigare. I thought you were messing with me. You aren’t as bad as your friend with the trolling though.

    “Well, because the great depression ended. Remember that’s what made them starve to begin with?”

    How do you think the Great Depression ended?

    “… And made them worse… That is, at least according to sources like CATO, which you likely don’t find convincing.”

    CATO does have a significant libertarian/right wing bias. I’d take a look though, if you have a link.

    “IDK, the income earner using their own money to support or help helping someone else as they see fit seems way more efficient than what any central planner could offer.”

    It does, but the key part of that sentence is “using their own money”. Most poor people don’t have money, and if they are disabled or otherwise unable to work, they won’t be getting any more.

    “Sounds familiar. Have you spoken to many people from the middle class lately?”

    It absolutely does. I would be happy to talk with you about how the weakening of government regulations on labor has led us to this point if you would like.

  13. Good one, gz. Oh, by the way, I was gonna give you a hint on some search words to help you find those COVID Pope emails you keep pestering me about, but then I thought: Hey, you’re the research expert. Why the hell should I be helping you?

    Anyway, before you start working on your next reply, chew on this fun fact: Didja know that Doug Henning was once arrested in Winnipeg for parading his sweatpants boner in front of a day care center? True story.

  14. “Good one, gz. Oh, by the way, I was gonna give you a hint on some search words to help you find those COVID Pope emails you keep pestering me about, but then I thought: Hey, you’re the research expert. Why the hell should I be helping you?”

    I’ve seen the emails. They don’t prove your point.

    “Anyway, before you start working on your next reply, chew on this fun fact: Didja know that Doug Henning was once arrested in Winnipeg for parading his sweatpants boner in front of a day care center? True story.”

    Looks like you’re expending a lot of effort to not prove your point.

  15. “I also don’t think you plan on wiping on (sic) the starving and homeless. Rather, it is an unfortunate side effect of your political philosophy.”

    Mmm hmm. And resource scarcity, a tyrannical police state, and the inevitable outlawing of property ownership, unpopular speech, as well as the means for anyone to defend themselves against any of this, are the consequences of yours.

    That is at least until we vote in the right guys. Those’re the ones who’ll do things right.

    Been hearing this for years, gz. Gets less convincing every time.

  16. “I’ve seen the emails.”

    So did I. What’s your point, gz?

    “Looks like you’re expending a lot of effort to not prove your point.”

    If you think that one took a lot of effort, check this one out: Didja know that Don Lemon once wiped the “natural man oils” from his own c & b all over a Hamptons bartender’s mustache because the bartender turned him down for sex? Totally gangsta, am I right?

  17. “Mmm hmm. And resource scarcity, a tyrannical police state, and the inevitable outlawing of property ownership, unpopular speech, as well as the means for anyone to defend themselves against any of this, are the consequences of yours.”

    What a gish-gallop! Each of those topics could be a long discussion itself. All I will say is that the absence of government will not necessarily make any of those better, other than the tyrannical police state topic, which I suppose by definition can only come from the government. Although, in the absence of the state, there will still be organized violence, so it’s a wash.

    “That is at least until we vote in the right guys. Those’re the ones who’ll do things right.

    Been hearing this for years, gz. Gets less convincing every time.”

    I don’t hold this opinion. I think you’ve created a picture in your head of who I am that isn’t accurate.

  18. “So did I. What’s your point, gz?”

    Well, why did you bring them up if they don’t support your point? Or is this just one of your random fun facts that you keep typing?

  19. “I guess I did miss your post, Intrigare. I thought you were messing with me.”

    Oh no my secret got out somehow 😉

    “You aren’t as bad as your friend with the trolling though.”

    Some think we’re the same person. I can imitate the original never improve upon it 🙂

    “How do you think the Great Depression ended?”

    Depressions end on their own without the government prolonging them and increasing their severeity and frequency. The Depression of 1920–1921 is an example CATO gives.

    “CATO does have a significant libertarian/right wing bias. I’d take a look though, if you have a link.”

    This one seems to be a good summary:

    httpss://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tbb-0508-25.pdf

    They also have other articles on the subject released over the years and a search function on their site also works well if you’d like to go deeper on that or another subject they cover.

    “It does, but the key part of that sentence is “using their own money”. Most poor people don’t have money, and if they are disabled or otherwise unable to work, they won’t be getting any more.”

    We established already that money isn’t created with some magic wand, right?

    “It absolutely does. I would be happy to talk with you about how the weakening of government regulations on labor has led us to this point if you would like.”

    Weakening of government regulations on labor? I thought the opposite happened but sure, lets talk about it.

  20. GZ-you are obviously right. Only the most radical, heartless, selfish people want to do away with Social Security. It makes me wonder who these people are. A bunch of childless, middle aged white doughboys ? Most of us in the real world know a lot of people who are dependent on Social Security and who would be terrified to have to depend on random charity. That is particularly true in the black community where there is little wealth. Just like the talk about New Hampshire seceding from the United States. Radical, crazy nonsense that is going absolutely nowhere.

  21. How selfish, racist and cruel to believe the person who earned an income should be the one to decide what to do with said income. And to dare suggest that the free market might have had a better outcome and helped the underprivileged more than our current system that is headed for bankruptcy.

    Oh well.

  22. “This one seems to be a good summary:

    httpss://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tbb-0508-25.pdf

    They also have other articles on the subject released over the years and a search function on their site also works well if you’d like to go deeper on that or another subject they cover.”

    Cool. I’ll read and get back to you with my thoughts.

    “We established already that money isn’t created with some magic wand, right?”

    I don’t think we did. Value is not created with a magic wand, but money certainly can be.

  23. “GZ-you are obviously right. Only the most radical, heartless, selfish people want to do away with Social Security. It makes me wonder who these people are. A bunch of childless, middle aged white doughboys ? Most of us in the real world know a lot of people who are dependent on Social Security and who would be terrified to have to depend on random charity. That is particularly true in the black community where there is little wealth. Just like the talk about New Hampshire seceding from the United States. Radical, crazy nonsense that is going absolutely nowhere.”

    I don’t think a lot of people have the awareness that they could be a day away from being just as destitute as those that depend on social security. Good financial planning can prevent a lot of problems, but nothing in life is guaranteed.

    New Hampshire secession won’t happen. First of all, they don’t have the support. Even if they did, they can’t legally secede, as that debate was settled in 1865. New Hampshire would have to leave by force, and it is in a really bad geographical and economical position to wage war with the U.S.

  24. “What a gish-gallop!”

    Uh huh. No more so than your repeated claim that only with the guiding hand of government can we manage the problems of starvation and homelessness.

    “Each of those topics could be a long discussion itself.”

    Uh huh. Problem is, gz, you types never want to discuss these recognized trademarks of your ideology. You just want to climb up onto your soapboxes and preach to the rest of us about how selfish we all are for not wanting more taxes and government programs to spend them on. Ceding control of resources and individual power to a centralized management structure who claims a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence has obvious hazards. I pointed them them out to you to keep you honest. Truth hurts, huh?

    “Although, in the absence of the state, there will still be organized violence, so it’s a wash.”

    In the absence of the state, there will be all sorts of organizations. That’s one of the many fun things people do. They organize. So it stands to reason that when violent groups emerge (and they will) others will organize themselves as well to defend themselves. I’ll bet some of them will even organize themselves against libtard weirdos like yourself – a freedom we don’t have at the moment, as many of the victims of last year’s race riots can attest.

    “I don’t hold this opinion. I think you’ve created a picture in your head of who I am that isn’t accurate.”

    That’s nice. Your own words say otherwise. For example, while you were talking about welfare programs with Intrigare, you said “the answer isn’t to eliminate these programs, it is to improve them…” Do you plan on improving these programs yourself using your own personal resources? Or will you be voting for another one of those swell politician who’ll promise to steal resources from the rest of and do the dirty work for you? Mmm hmm. Thought so.

  25. “Well, why did you bring them up if they don’t support your point?”

    And why did you bring up that you’ve already read them? There’s over a thousand of them, you know. You didn’t do a little research on the side and not tell me, now did you gz? You’re such a sneak! 😉

    “Or is this just one of your random fun facts that you keep typing?”

    Glad ya like ’em, gz, ‘cuz I have another one for ya: Didja know that LFoD really, really, really likes other men’s butts? You should hear him sing about it in the shower at the Y. My God, he has a voice like an angel.

  26. “Depressions end on their own without the government prolonging them and increasing their severeity and frequency. The Depression of 1920–1921 is an example CATO gives.”

    This article doesn’t really address the depression of 1920, other than to say the government generally stood aside. This is not entirely true. While the government didn’t get involved to the same extent they did during the Great Depression, they still increased tariffs and gave relief to the unemployed.

    From what I gather the Depression of 1920-1921 was primarily caused by the Fed contracting the money supply in an attempt to fight inflation, and was subsequently fixed by the Fed loosening the money supply again. That’s Milton Friedman’s take on it anyway. Seeing as the article you linked makes the same complaint about the Great Depression, I’m sure you will agree with me here. This was effectively a government created and a government fixed problem. The free market didn’t really do anything.

    (Of course, when the government increases the money supply, people complain that they are just printing money out of thin air and stealing from everyone, but i guess the evil government can’t win.)

    The rest of the article doesn’t quite go into the level of detail that I would like, with many of the sources no longer existing. I don’t really think it makes a convincing case that the Great Depression was extended or caused by the government.The article ignores a lot of the reasoning behind each of the measures mentioned, and doesn’t really analyze the opportunity cost of not having these programs in place.

  27. “Uh huh. No more so than your repeated claim that only with the guiding hand of government can we manage the problems of starvation and homelessness.”

    Because the invisible hand of the free market has done such a great job.

    “Uh huh. Problem is, gz, you types never want to discuss these recognized trademarks of your ideology.”

    I am discussing one position right now with Intrigare. I am not about to discuss all of my positions, all at once. That would take a lot of time and a ton of effort. Despite the amount of time I’ve spent here, I do have other stuff in my life I have to do.

    You just want to climb up onto your soapboxes and preach to the rest of us about how selfish we all are for not wanting more taxes and government programs to spend them on.”

    I don’t think you should want more taxes.There is a lot of wasteful spending in government that can be reduced. I also don’t know how selfish you are personally, although I know you get a kick out of being antagonistic on the internet. I think libertarianism is a shortsighted philosophy that doesn’t consider how a strong society can benefit individual freedom. Likewise, I think authoritarians are also shortsighted because they don’t understand how individual freedom can create a strong society. There is a balance issue at play here.

    “Ceding control of resources and individual power to a centralized management structure who claims a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence has obvious hazards. I pointed them them out to you to keep you honest.Truth hurts, huh?”

    Not really. For the most part, it is only libertarians that are amazed and shocked by the fact that government has a monopoly on violence.

  28. “The Supreme Court could overrule itself, which happens. Also theoretically other States could join NH, as happened in the Civil War. With how things are accelerating in the world I wouldn’t say its completely off the table in our lifetimes. Interesting topic.”

    Stranger things have happened, but it will take a lot of interesting circumstances to get to that point.

  29. Hey, if the free market is so much better than government, why hasn’t it been able to out-compete it?

  30. “The rest of the article doesn’t quite go into the level of detail that I would like, with many of the sources no longer existing.”

    There are more recent, detailed articles. There is a series on it that’s more recent. I haven’t read it in its entirety but its there in case you’re interested.

    I suppose the lessons all sides could learn here is to be more careful treating something as a fact that is actually a disputed fact.

    By the way I’m still interested in that talk about weakening of government regulations on labor if you are.

  31. That video… why? why post such crap
    the video was crap
    pointless screaming
    just people behaving poorly
    it doesn’t offer anything
    except it might give you a upset stomach
    i don’t mean to insult

  32. “Because the invisible hand of the free market has done such a great job.”

    Oh yeah. Your ol’ pal Barack Obama says that we “didn’t build that,” right? Forgot all about that one. I mean, everyone knows it was Al Gore who invented the internet. I guess you win, gz.

    Wait. What? Al Gore DIDN’T invent the internet? Well what did he invent then? Carbon credits? What the fuck is a carbon credit?

    “I am discussing one position right now with Intrigare. I am not about to discuss all of my positions, all at once. That would take a lot of time and a ton of effort. Despite the amount of time I’ve spent here, I do have other stuff in my life I have to do.”

    That’s nice. Thing is, the monopoly on violence that the state enjoys is a big problem. In fact, it’s the first thing libertarians think about when you types keep telling the rest of us that government still needs even more of our resources to “fix” society.

    “I don’t think you should want more taxes.”

    Your own words say otherwise, gz.

    “I think libertarianism is a shortsighted philosophy that doesn’t consider how a strong society can benefit individual freedom.”

    Top-down bureaucracies are of no benefit individual freedom, gz, nor do they strengthen society. They keep society divided. How does that make it stronger?

    “There is a balance issue at play here.”

    The state’s monopoly on violence shifts shifts political power into the state’s favor. That’s the opposite of balance.

    “For the most part, it is only libertarians that are amazed and shocked by the fact that government has a monopoly on violence.”

    Good one, gz. Ya know what’s even more unsettling? That state-monopolized violence is the go-to weapon of mass destruction for the libtard weirdo. Like when Barack Obama used the IRS to audit conservatives who were endorsing the wrong pollical candidates. Remember that bullshit, gz?

  33. Hey Dave. Swell poem, by the way. Say, speaking of behaving poorly, didja know that Mel Gibson actually isn’t Australian? I know, I know, he starred in all those bad ass Australian Mad Max films, but he’s really just a Coors Banquet guzzling American like the rest of us. Anyway, guess what? Mel’s making a sequel to “The Passion of the Christ.” It’s set to take place in the bowels of Hell. The same place you’re going when you die. Don’t pretend you don’t know why. You know what you did.

  34. Susan Bruce is dead.. fyi anyone

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