Full Video of Hearing on Bill Prohibiting Giving Guns to Felons

The usual big government suspects came out to support HB 1632 last month, a bill that would make it illegal to provide guns to felons. (Though apparently the bill authors did not know it already is illegal, according to RSA 159:7.) Gun freedom advocates came out to oppose it, but not as many as would on most gun restriction bills, as lots of gun freedom people don’t want to be seen as taking the side of felons.

However, someone had to stick up for felons’ rights, so I testified about how they deserve to be free to defend themselves too. The felons intent on continuing a life of crime won’t be stopped by pesky laws from getting guns, but those who’ve turned their lives around are. They can’t as effectively protect themselves or their families because their “right” to bear arms has been stripped from them.

The committee voted 7-6 to “ITL” the bill. (Inexpedient to Legislate, aka, to recommend the full house kill it.) Here’s the full video of the hearing in the house criminal justice committee:

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Jumping Jacks

Ian Bernard you did not sound like you knew what you were talking about. You want felons to have guns? You are as insane as they are. Ademo doesn’t need to carry a weapon. He is in jail most of the time so he doesn’t need a weapon. Why give felons guns when they can’t vote. You need some very serious psychological help

Flint

@Jumping Jacks: Felons can vote in NH, as soon as they are released (as is the case in a third of US States). Maine and Vermont actually allow them to vote while still in prison. The overwhelming majority (well over 3/4) of US States restore voting rights by the time probation is over. Why am I unsurprised that you were ignorant of those facts, instead basing your claims on the ridiculously-false nonsense that is common on TV?

Bsizzle

Flinty all of what you said doesn’t matter. What matters is YOU THINK it’s OK for felons to have guns. Anarchy much? Just so you know when this Anarchy might happen, you and your freaks, free Keene would be the first ones to go. With out police and government YOU GUYS should be running for the hills, because the norm will be after your asses with some citizen justice you fucking ass clown!

Bob Constantine

Slaves were not allowed to have guns either. Live free or die.

Flint

@Bsizzle: Actually, I haven’t said anything about whether I think felons should be able to have guns. But the fact that Jacks is lying… that really does matter. Oh, and the fact that you just lied about what I said, as well!

LOL @ JumpinhJackass

LOL @ stalker Jackass

Stalk Ian much?

Bsizzle

Where was I lying here? Enlighten me.

Flint

@Bsizzle: “What matters is YOU THINK it’s OK for felons to have guns.”

You don’t know what I think. I’ve not expressed my opinion on that matter. So, you were lying when you said that you knew my opinion.

LOL @ lying Bsizzle

LOL Bsizzle you lie. Celtic Ireland lived for 9000 years under a stateless libertarian anarchy until 17th century. http://attackthesystem.com/2013/06/30/9000-years-of-anarchy-in-ireland/ “The most remarkable historical example of a society of libertarian law and courts, however, has been neglected by historians until very recently. And this was also a society where not only the courts and the law were largely libertarian, but where they operated within a purely state-less and libertarian society. This was ancient Ireland—an Ireland which persisted in this libertarian path for roughly a thousand years until its brutal conquest by England in the seventeenth century. And, in contrast to many… Read more »

Jumping Jacks

Flint – You are wrong again. “New Hampshire. Individuals incarcerated for a felony conviction are ineligible to vote. Voting rights are automatically restored upon release from prison, and people on parole or probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote”. No felon can possess firearms “No one can sell, deliver, or give a firearm to a person that has been convicted of a felony. If they do, they are guilty of a class B felony. Section 159:8 License to Sell. – People of the state of NH can apply for a license to sell guns that lasts 3 years.May 2,… Read more »

Drac Vermell

I’m glad to see that you agree with Flint here, Jacks. It’s wonderful that you’re willing to eat a little crow once in a while! So does this mean that you’re open to changing your views on Narcan as well?

Tom Southern

Meanwhile JumpingJacks has been impersonating law enforcement over at Copblock.org which is potentially a felony itself.

JumpingJacks calls himself a “parole officer” in the comment section over there.

Tom Southern

JumpingJacks leaves a whole trail of lies in the post “LAPD K9 Likely Responsible for Attacking Cat” JumpingJacks says. “I work as a parole officer. I work around a lot of K9s. I have never seen one go off and attack an animal in any situation. The story stated a veterinarian said the wounds were caused by a dog attack. The unfortunate thing is this story was posted on copblock. Which means most of the story is BS. ” “I work in law enforcement. I have worked with a lot of LEOs who are K9s. You have obviously never worked… Read more »

Flint

@Jumping Jacks: The sheer level of your stupidity knows no bounds, does it? You just posted a quote that proves that I was right and you were wrong on voting, and then a second one that doesn’t address anything I said, but does prove Ian right about this bill being nonsense since felons are already prohibited. Congrats!

Bsizzle

Hey flinty if you support the keeniacs you will be accused of bad judgment on all topics here. Guilty by association. I know it must be a hard pill to swallow, but you chose it.

Flint

@Bsizzle: Accusations made by liars aren’t really very concerning to me.

Bsizzle

They are not accusations flinty, they are very true. Anyone here supporting the keeniacs are a fraud and a sham and twist the truth, not me. Next!

Drac Vermell

In case you didn’t know , Shylock, the type of logical fallacy you chose to use here is referred to as “circular reasoning”. Now that you know what this is, do you think you can pick out where in your other posts you’ve made the exact same mistakes?

Flint

@Bsizzle: You say that they are accusations, and then say that they are not accusations, because they’re true. Aside from contradicting yourself, that also makes no sense, because “accusation” can be either true or false. Your assertion that you’re telling the truth makes no sense, since you’re a liar. All liars say that they’re telling the truth. And you have repeatedly been caught lying, so anyone who cares for the truth knows that you’re a liar – this isn’t exactly something that’s up for debate, at this point. You and truth parted ways a long time ago – probably most… Read more »

Bsizzle

Prove it. How am I lying?

Bsizzle

Come on and prove it. Tell me how I am lying about you and this sham of a cult free Keene. The more you support these asshats flinty, the less I find you a credible witness of right and true in today’s society. So I’m ready, how am I a lair?

Flint

@Bsizzle: We already covered how you were lying. I quoted you lying, even.

Also, repeatedly posting like you imagine this is some sort of chatroom and you are being ignored is just hilarious. No friends to keep you company, eh? FYI, I don’t use email notifications on here (it’s just not that important to me), so I won’t know when you post.. I reload the most recent stories occasionally, so you’ll just have to be patient and wait for me to do so. Even if you’re extremely anxious for a reply to fill the void of your existence.

Jumping Jacks

Tom Southern – More mindless ramblings without proof. Are you stupid and enjoy building a fantasy life or does the mental illness you have keep you from living in reality?

Again, prove your statements.

Jumping Jacks

Flint – give it up. You are wrong as usual. I have proven that.

Flint

@Jumping Jacks: You proved yourself wrong. What you posted quite literally said exactly the same thing that I said, and exactly the opposite of what you said. It did that in plain English. Your apparently inability to understand that just demonstrates your utter lack of intelligence.

Bsizzle

Come on flinty, prove where I am lying, I’m waiting. Show me examples?

Flint

@Bsizzle: I already quoted you attributing things to me which I never said. That’s called… “lying.”

Bsizzle

You flinty supporting these wonderful fixtures in society, the keeeniacs, lumps you in as a fraud and a liar, shame on you! If your in support of anything free Keene stands for, your a fucking sick and twisted moron! Good luck in life, flinty!

Bsizzle

I see damage control here, flinty!

Flint

@Bsizzle: Either you can quote me expressing the position you claim that I hold, or you cannot. If you cannot, then your claim was a lie. And if your claim is a lie, then your further claims are also worthless.

So, can you support your claim that I think “it’s OK for felons to have guns,” or can’t you? Simple question, there.

Bsizzle

There is no such thing as a simple question here, flinty. It doesn’t matter if you think felons should have guns or not. The fact that you side and support this group of deviants makes your credibility fly right out the window! You should be ashamed of yourself.

Flint

@Bsizzle: Actually, since you stated that I do think that, it matters very much whether you can support that claim, or whether you are just a filthy liar. If you’re nothing but a sleazy little liar, then your claims about credibility are meaningless, because sleazy little liars have no credibility.

So, can you support your claim, or are you just a worthless liar who no one should listen to?

Bsizzle

Prove how I am lying you waste of skin. Your a supporter of some real mental patients here, the free keeniacs. How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday, and say your a man of good worth? I will state anything I want here about loathsome people such as yourself. You can say I’m a lair all day long, and that I am insignificant, but how can I be when people are posting back at what pithy things I have to say, hmm flinty? I hope I’m getting under your skin, because you’re in support of such deviants.… Read more »

Flint

@Bsizzle: The proof has already been provided, several times over. You made a claim about me, and have zero evidence to support that claim. Ergo, the claim is a lie. (oddly enough, even were I to take that position, your claim would still be a lie, because you invented it out of thin air) You repeatedly keep claiming that I “support” things and individuals without a shred of evidence to back up those claims. I look at myself in the mirror each day, just fine. That comes from having honor and integrity. You can’t “get under my skin,” because you’re… Read more »

Bsizzle

Wow I did get under your skin, eh flinty. You are here posting day to day in support of a cult, a sick and delusional cult. They are spineless just as you are spineless, and without a spine, how can you truly look in the mirror at your lame ass? So I’m a raving lunatic? Nah I’m just a pissed of loudmouthed parent who wants to protect my family from this virus in my community. Your buddies here are the scum of society, fucking wake up grow a set, and side with a group that are not entitled, mental, sexual… Read more »

Flint

@Bsizzle: You’re clearly just some high school kid posting from his parents’ basement. And no, you can’t under my skin. You’d have to be worth something as a human being for me to care about your opinion – your ludicrous assumptions about who I do or do not support just makes it more obvious that you can’t even read. You actually admit that you couldn’t actually hold your own in an adult discussion and could only hope to achieve anything by screaming and throwing a tantrum like the child that you are. Might be a novel experience for me; my… Read more »

Bsizzle

Flinty. I am by no means a high school student. You probably wish I was, to justify your delusional thinking, but sorry. I spoke to the mayor of Keene recently at a function about your friends, the free keeniacs and said that I was very much involved in the exposing of the dirty underbelly of this cult. They congratulated me in my quest to eradicate this sham of a cult. They said they are glad that they have been insignificant lately, and are dissolving as a group. This is not a tantrum here. I am speaking for the citizens of… Read more »

Drac Vermell

Don’t worry, I’ve been reading your comments here with great interest, detective. I especially enjoyed your last post. My was that a doozy! Did you really think it would impress anyone? I’m curious, though. When you were fantasizing about debriefing the mayor over how successful your investigation into the “dirty underbelly” of Free Keene has been going, at which point did he start laughing? I started when you mistakenly used the word “dirty” instead of “seedy”.

Flint

@Bsizzle: You’re right. Judging by your behavior and your delusions, you’re likely not even out of junior high.

I would assume that, by the time someone reaches high school, they would realize that promising to throw a tantrum isn’t an effective tactic.

Bsizzle

Typical draccc, all you have for a comeback is making fun of someone’s punctuation. Looks like flinty has had enough, and look you come out of nowhere trying to protect his ass. You are as spineless as he is. The fact that you support such deviance, you should be ashamed of yourself as a father and a grandfather. Like I said again, I am here to protect my family from sick and twisted individuals such as yourself. Shame on you.

Drac Vermell

Ah Shylock, you can always be counted upon to miss the point. What I was mocking, dear, was your cockamamie fantasy about your chummy relationship with the mayor. The fact that you couldn’t even correctly use a very common English phrase was merely a bonus.

Bsizzle

Ah draccc, your comments are redundant, a lacking any correlation to giving guns to felons. You are void of comebacks, and of moral ideology. A simple phone call to the mayor asking who he talked to at a function about your deviant friends might shed some light as to who I am. Ooooo, bet you’d love that, but alas you do not have the intestinal fortitude to do such a thing.
Mr. Greenwald was there to when I was having this discussion, maybe you can give him a jingle! Good luck, yah smuck!

Drac Vermell

Ah yes, and I’m sure the mayor also expressed how crucial your work was in cracking this case, eh detective? Tell me more about this fantasy. Was the function in your honor? If so, did the mayor drape a large medal around your neck to reward for your fine service or were you given the key to the city instead? Or was it both? It’s your fantasy, detective! Feel free to make it a good one!

By the way, what exactly is a “smuck”? You’re not having difficulty remembering the correct pejoratives again, are you detective?

Bsizzle

Wow, I guess you really might be Romanian, and know nothing about the vocabulary slang of the Jewish people, yah smuck! Lol. I laid it all out on a line for you, yet you seem to not be able to do your homework. What a dumbass!
You just gave yourself away as NOT being a 90 year old here. All you have to do is make a phone call. Now I see what I am truly dealing with here. Like I said it’s like shooting fish in a barrel! Draccc again is not keeping on topic. Next.

Drac Vermell

No dear. What you meant to type was “schmuck”. I even generously gave you a chance to notice your error. While I can see someone not knowing there are two c’s in the word, I find it strange how you managed to leave out the h. When you sound the word out in your head, do you really think it sounds like “smuck”? It’s hilarious how dull-witted you keep revealing yourself to be, detective. Sometimes I underestimate how stupid you can really be. But please, don’t ever stop! This is high comedy, detective!

Bsizzle

There goes draccc, making fun of someone’s punctuation and deflecting.
Do you know what is not high comedy? The deviant behavior of the cult, free keene that you endorse with your postings of favor towards them. Got anything else to sling at me. So do you think it’s OK to give guns to felons, and have sex with underaged children? Don’t bother answering, we know the real answer.

Drac Vermell

Who’s we, detective? Do you mean to say that you believe you know the answer and have taken it upon yourself to speak for others as well? Well that’s not very democratic, is it detective? Now what would your chum the mayor say about such presumptuous behavior?

Bsizzle

Ah your to easy draccc, the “we” I am talking about is all the normal thinking people that I show daily that get to see what you write in your friends right here. They get to see what you think is right, when in fact all of this is just deviant behavior an ideology that you support. Pathetic is the word that most people describe you and your cohorts free Keene. Speaking of cohorts where is your buddy flinty? He was here a while ago and now you’re trying to come in and defend his deviant ideas. I noticed that… Read more »

Drac Vermell

That doesn’t interest me, Shylock. I’m much more interested in this fantasy you’ve concocted concerning the mayor. How did this idea come about in the first place? Did you dream it up while you were playing with your toys?

Bsizzle

I bet you’d love to know that I’m a young adolescent teenager here, yah sick fuck, eh draccc? This mayor thing has really got yah going, hasn’t it draccc? The funny thing is that all you have to do is make a simple phone call to the mayor’s office to find out who bsizzle really is, but alas your just too lazy to get off your assistance to do so. Where is your buddy flinty that started to try to prove his involvement in this deviant behavior an ideology of this cult that you follow. Maybe he’s smarter than you… Read more »

Drac Vermell

Why would I need to make a phone call to the mayor to check this story of yours when I already know that you made it up, Shylock? That would be silly! Now let’s get back to this fantasy of yours, shall we? So, when you’re daydreaming about your important work with the mayor, what sorts of exciting adventures are you imagining? Are you a secret agent? Does the mayor provide you with a fancy car complete with ejector seats and a parachute?

Bsizzle

Wow, draccc is making so much sense here. And totally avoiding questioning.
I’m not surprised. I’m just going to leave this here and drive away in my fancy car. Lol. Hey were is flinty and creepy Crawford, the completion to the three stooges here? Nite nite!

Bsizzle

BTW draccc, you should really give mayor lane and Mr Greenwald a call. It’s that easy, yah fuckin asshat. Wow, truly pathetic!

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