Harold and Kumar Escape From Tough Questions

John Cho and Kal Penn, known the world over as Harold and Kumar, spent yesterday and today touring the state’s colleges on behalf of the Obama reelection campaign. Of the eight stops on the two day tour, Keene was the only location in which the duo appeared together.

Harold and Kumar are an awkward choice for the young face of the Obama campaign. Their characters are a target of forces within the Obama administration which the president has done little to address. Campaigning in 2008, he had said that medicinal cannabis enforcement would be the lowest priority of his law enforcement. Under Obama, the United States has seen an increase in raids of medicinal cannabis clinics as well as increased enforcement against undocumented immigrants. While many expected change, the result was a slightly worse version of the same.

While the most relevant question to ask the duo would have been related to the drug war, since it was a youth symposium, I tied my question in to the disturbing celebration of death accompanied with the killing of much-feared terrorists (Medicinal cannabis raids were the subject of a question asked later in the day at UNH Durham). It seemed to be primarily young people who took to the streets to celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. While there existed a much more understandable blood lust in the United States in the wake of September 11, by the time Bin Laden was executed during a May 2011 raid on his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, he had dissolved culturally from a deadly terrorist to a mythical boogieman. Osama Bin Laden was the shady figure hiding behind every suspicious package that caught one’s eye in the post 9/11 world. After ten years, the blood lust had lost its appeal, and Osama’s henchman status withered with it. His assassination could have been a simpler footnote in history were it not a trumpeted achievement of western civilization. One particular curiosity regarding the images of American mobs celebrating the assassination overseas is that the streets are primarily populated with young people. Those present were likely all children during the September 11 attacks.

A crowd celebrating the death of Bin Laden in DC

Aside from the gravity of the question, I was interested in asking what I had because I had heard Kal Penn’s speech to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, in which he said, “I’ve worked on a lot of fun movies, but my favorite job was having a boss who gave the order to take out Bin Laden, and who’s cool with all of us getting gay married.” Whether Kumar wrote those words or not, the idea of considering a hit on someone in a faraway compound something to be proud of is medieval. And so,

Ean: My question deals with the recent increase in power in the executive to do things that historically haven’t been able to be done. My biggest concern is the power of the president to kill people without due process. Do you guys have any concern with the fact that it’s been sort of celebrated, among young people, things like the execution of Osama Bin Laden, the execution of Anwar Al-Awlaki. That, that’s the wrong direction to go in, maybe? Do you guys have a comment on that?

Penn: I don’t have a…

Staffer: Hey guys, if you can — we can help you with that.

Penn: Yeah, do you have policy folks that can…?

Staffer: Yeah, come speak to me afterwards. If you guys have any specific policy questions, come speak to me afterwards, and I can direct you to the right people at the campaign.

Penn: This is what happens when I didn’t work for the national security council is I’m not equipped to answer questions like that. More youth focused stuff is what I work in, so good question.

The next question was predictably the cannabis question. Penn answered honestly that the Obama administration opposes cannabis legalization and that if that’s an important issue for you, neither he nor his red counterpart would be your candidates.

Later in the Q&A, a journalism professor from the college inquired about the campaign’s earlier censorship.

Professor: Today is Constitution day, and so of all days, I would like to encourage you to answer policy questions. I don’t think its appropriate to say my students background — you’re both very intelligent, very well educated, so we don’t want you to feel that your first amendment rights are being violated here on Constitution day. So if students have policy questions, I say let them ask them.

Penn: Sure, no, I don’t think it’s that, I think it’s that we want to make sure that we’re the right folks to answer those questions. If its something like health care, national security, computers…anything math related, I’m not good at, and stuff like financial aid, or don’t ask don’t tell, or those sort of things that—

Prof: Well this questions affects all Americans…

Penn: It does, I’m just not equipped to—

Prof: We still have the right to ask.

Penn: Oh, of course, I hope you didn’t feel like we were cutting down the question, I just want to make sure we get you the right answer to that. And that goes for any policy question.

Given the campaign’s insistence that Harold and Kumar not approach the issue, I’ll look into following up with the individual I was referred to by the campaign to answer policy questions.

See also: Full video of Harold and Kumar’s visit to Keene State.
See also: A March 2012 Free Concord article regarding the Obama administration acknowledging extrajudicial killings.

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Tom

Hopefully, that "passion" will translate into the government doing one thing right.

I like results.

MaineShark

Excellent. Always a hat-tip when your opponent has to give you respect (even if grudgingly) for your efforts. I see this as a win-win. Either the council does the better thing, and turns down this silly APC, or they openly defy the obvious opinion of the general public whom they claim to represent, which will wake some folks up to the ridiculousness of the government's claim in that regard. Whichever of those choices the council makes, it is a win for liberty… Also, as an additional comment, I find it amusing how the trolls have been adamantly opposed to the… Read more »

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Bob Constantine

Hmm…hard to tell the cops from military these days isn't it?

Federal Grants must be magic, you know like "free money".

david

wow… Man!, a PICTURE of the KEENE pd with arms folded behind the Purveyor of war machines.

"we must protect the man we REALLY care about " The war machine seller..

That sound like a powerful picture.

Um we should definitely show up at the council meeting because though there ARE tv cameras , people should be there with signs : EYES looking at them as they cram this war machine down keene's throat

Tom Sawyer

The LENCO salesmen was just shining you on… it's a tactic.

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david

I could see that Thom, but why? Why would he do that ; to what ends?

I really see no motivation for him…..which makes me tend toward the blogger's view.

Tom Sawyer

I'm not saying that it wasn't true… I'm saying the way for him to deescalate the situation was to act like we aren't at cross purposes. He wants less opposition to his sales.

SLAVE KING

HA! Yeah, only here in safe little Keene could the FreeWeenie Rabble and Riff-Raff Club find safe sanctuary. If ya told the TRUTH, Ian, you’d point out that there are other BearCat models that are dedicated SWAT Trucks, with battering rams and weapons. But that is NOT the model BearCat Keene is getting. Keene is getting one that is NBC / CBRNE capable. That means it has monitoring and detection equipment for various chemical, nuclear&radiological, biological, and explosive materials. If a tanker truck carrying flammable chemicals collides with a truck carrying hospital – grade radioactive waste, and there’s release of… Read more »

Harry

Start letters of protest to Congressman Bass, Senators Shaheen and Yyotte. Your so call representation in Washington approved funding the LENCO7w2, to enslave you, future generations, . Tell them you want the grant rescind NOW, not tomorrow. The grant was not theirs to give away. Grant money is your tax money. It is an election, all of you can impact the outcome.

Private Love

When the militarization of America is complete, then, and only then, will the COUP begin…

*I*SUPPORT*THE*IMMINENT*MILITARY*COUP*

RON PAUL 2012

RON PAUL 2012

*AUDIT*THE*FED*

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David Chessler

This thing would be easily defeated by anyone that had the inkling to do so with about 5 dollars worth of ammunition (to snipe out the gunner) and about $25 worth of gasoline (to roast the morons inside that thought it would keep them safe)

David Chessler

There a lot of incidents of toxic chemical tankers colliding with radioactive waste trucks in Keene, Slave King? Or are you just jumping at the opportunity to go full retard in fellating the state on this?

MaineShark

"There a lot of incidents of toxic chemical tankers colliding with radioactive waste trucks in Keene, Slave King?"

Hey… it /could/ happen.

I think Keene should get an anti-aircraft missile installation, in case of an attack by Mothra…

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Lenco BearCat

We're working on a new 4G Stealth BearCat model.

It will look just like a bunch of illegals smoking meth in a Supra…

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Warlord

All I could think of when I saw the clip on this machines capability's,was WACO.

You remember that right? Where the federal agencies gathered to shoot ,gas and

burn to death many men ,women and children, for the purpose of possible child

endangerment.

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CarlJones2

@David Chessler

Wow you’re smart aren’t you? No gun you can buy would pierce the bulletproof glass on a Bearcat. I’m sure it’s fire resistant too.

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