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Comment by Paul

November 20, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

Correction Mr. Stout: You steal our money and property, then use it to buy highways.

If I sent you extortion letters every few months demanding thousands of dollars, wasted most of the money on boondoggles and favored interests, and then used the last $50 to drop a gift basket on your door, would you thank me for “providing” the gift basket?

Hell no.

Comment by iawai

November 21, 2009 @ 11:48 am

His government tortures. His government murders. His government steals.

But its for the greater good, so its not criminal – just like what a gang-member would say to rationalize his position.

Comment by thinkliberty

November 21, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

No the gang-member would be honest with himself, he will say that the torturing, murders and stealing IS criminal, but it’s for his greater good to rationalize his position.

He might also rationalize that the government steals and murders, so that makes stealing and murdering okay for their gang too.

Any gang that wants to be successful just needs to imitate the biggest gang, which is currently the government.

Comment by Scott in Winnipeg

November 21, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

The MSM is not “controlled”. First Sam says they are controlled, then he says that they are reporting about the government protecting the poppy fields, doesn’t seem very controlled. I would suggest stepping back a bit and being more critical when addressing the MSM being “controlled” conspiracy.

Comment by thinkliberty

November 21, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

I think controlled is the wrong word. The MSM is subsidized by the government.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/01/13/drugs/

“…This Salon reporter was able to identify some two dozen shows where specific single or multiple episodes containing anti-drug themes were assigned a monetary value by the drug czar’s office and its two ad buyers: Zenith and its eventual replacement, Ogilvy & Mather Worldwide.

In return for, apparently, several episodes with anti-drug subplots, highly rated “ER” redeemed $1.4 million worth of time for NBC to be able to sell elsewhere. “The Practice” recouped $500,000 worth of time for ABC to sell if it wished. And anti-drug messages woven into “90210″ redeemed between $500,000 and $750,000.

Other shows with episodes that redeemed ad time for the networks during the 1998-99 season include: “Home Improvement,” valued at approximately $525,000 for ABC; “Chicago Hope,” valued at probably $500,000 or more (CBS); “Sports Night,” a valuation of around $450,000 (ABC); “7th Heaven,” valued at around $200,000 (WB); and “The Wayans Bros.” with its relatively paltry ratings, kicking in only approximately $110,000 (WB)…”

And then you have the Pentagon using psychological operations on US public.

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/bryan-whitman-2/

“…When the military analyst program was first revealed by The New York Times in 2008, retired US Army Col. Ken Allard described it as “PSYOPS on steroids.”

It turns out this was far from a casual reference. Raw Story has discovered new evidence that directly exposes this stealth media project and the activities of its participants as matching the US government’s own definition of psychological operations, or PSYOPS…”

The media companies don’t HAVE to take the money, so they are not controlled, but they do take the money.

Comment by SamIam

November 21, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

That’s just a small fraction of what goes on ThinkLiberty.

Scott- Can you post an example of when you called into a talk show, where you have anywhere from 20seconds to a few minutes, where you perfectly explained the situation more critically?

In the mean time I’ll continue reaching out to people as best I can.

Comment by national_institute_for_advanced_pig_research

November 21, 2009 @ 7:41 pm

I am so proud of Nat Stout for serving his country. We all owe him big time for all that he did for us. He is a patriot as well as a hell of a guy. Whenever I count my blessings, the first one I count is that great Americans like Nat Stout are willing to serve in government. Heck I think we should all work for the government and obey it unreservedly without complaining if Nat Stout thinks it’s a good idea.

Comment by Scott in Winnipeg

November 22, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

Sam, I would suggest just stepping back a bit to make it more conversational. For example, when Mark calls in to TalkBack there is more back and forth with the hosts, I think that is a more effective way of communicating, which will result in your message being given more weight. If you come out guns blazing many people will tend to ignore the rest of what you say, even if it’s valid.

Comment by michael Garcia

November 22, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

Cynthia seems to be uninterested with the depredations of the state no matter what they may be. Even with 100,000s of dead civilians, no sort of evidence will reach her. She was literally uninterested with the information that the troops are guarding poppy fields. How do you reach someone that has nothing to say about the crimes committed.

Now shut up and salute the flag.

Comment by Scott

November 24, 2009 @ 8:41 am

Michael, is Cynthia a Christian? I find that using the Christian Just War Theory to persuade Christians into accepting NAP to be a convincing arguement. Once you get them questioning is when you can elaborate on the exact happenings.

They also have no idea how any of this is funded. By elaborating on the mechanism you can more easily pinpoint the absurdity of such action.

I haven’t had the pleasure of hearing the archive yet, so this is just my generally uninformed perspective based on the comments.

In simple terms, if I had one minute I would specify that war is only just in self-defense and when itself does not seek to destroy our philosophy of liberty by the institution of taxation, and how a state of war always destroys economies. What is there to fight for if we have destruction, destitution, and a police-state at home? They have all ready won. Simply put, expand upon the fact that the only reason we are in a perpetual state of war is because of debt-monopoly money created by the Federal Reserve and sanctioned at gun point by Federal legal tender laws. Without those two, we would never be at war since we could not afford this crumbling, criminal Empire (A state of de-facto non-interventionism and free-trade).

Comment by Chaz Munro

November 25, 2009 @ 5:59 pm

Cynthia’s daughter is a guard at a children’s prison in Iraq. She was brazen enough to come on the air this summer on TB Live, literally gushing about her vile role as jailer, because she gave some of the kids some candy.

Of course, she made no mention of any of the children that were beaten or killed either by her or her foul jackbooted cohorts. Cynthia and her family benefit from the system as it is and I doubt that she would ever “see the light”.

The system will eventually collapse without her help or blessings.