Free Keene Blogger, Ian Freeman, Caged for 90 Days

August 10, 2011 by Meg McLain
Filed under: Announcement, Civil Disobedience, Jailed Activist

Facebook Update from Pete Voluntaryist Eyre:

“Today “judge” Arnold ordered Ian caged for 90 days for sitting in front of the vehicle that over a year ago held Heika Courser (who was cuffed for a victimless action). Ian’s request to remain free until his appeal was heard was denied. He also has 270days suspended for 2yrs.”

More information coming from witnesses of today’s events.

david-keene

@ hc,

you do you think 3 months in a cage is the right,just treatment for what Ian did?

Do you think that justice has been one?

Do you support the "justice" meted out by judge arnold?
http://lazymoose.wordpress.com/ holy_canole

david-keene,

I think the punishment Ian got was harsh…I'm no proponent of jailing people for nonviolent crimes anyways. I would much rather see him out doing work to contribute to the community (road work, cleaning up sidewalks, etc.)

That being said, I do believe he deserved SOME form of punishment, and the fact that the punishment he got was so harsh I think reflects the fact that so many people in Keene find him to be detrimental to the community. I seriously believe that if he, and perhaps Free Keene in general, made more of an effort to at least get along with the majority of the population, his sentence would have been less severe. Do I think that's fair? Yes and no. Yes, because it is an example of the golden rule–piss off your neighbors and they'll somehow find a way to piss you off too. No, because I think there should be consistency in court proceedings, as much as possible.
Ryan Maddox

So if I understand correctly, it is just to impose punishments on individuals, including incarceration and forced labor, for offending and acting contrary to the oppressive values of the majority in a community? IOW, a community may arbitrarily proscribe various behaviors, and when one challenges them, that individual may be subjected to forced detention and labor? It's disturbing that you do not see anything wrong with that scenario.

By what right or reason do you contend these laws, prohibiting victimless self-expression, are valid? Do you even consider them valid? Does that matter in your opinion? I am truly curious to know. If your answer sounds like "the community/majority makes the rules, and he had what was coming to him", then you will not have properly answered my questions. An answer like that would appear to be an argument ad populum fallacy.
SOTBS

I was under the false impression that the post had been deleted.

Everyone has a right to kill themselves, to deny them that right would be an act of violence. It might be counter-intuitive, in a world ruled by simple misconceptions.

Actually I encourage all control freaks to kill themselves, every pathetic chicken hawk who roots on the War safely from their television, and every sadistic asshole who cheers on excessive use of force for peaceful actions, which looking back on the civil rights movement, does include sitting in front of police cars and getting arrested for minor infringements, clogging up the system, etc.

But I suppose Rothbard is the new MLK? Maybe we should name a street after him. I do not speak for FK, but their tactics are nothing new. They are standard Civ-Dis, and people that just want the trains to be on time find them annoying. Fuck the trains, fuck the police, and fuck you. You SHOULD kill yourselves. It would make the world a better place, and it wouldn't deny anyone their natural rights– it would exercise them.
SOTBS

"If you reread the arguments you yourself have been making, it boils down to majority rules the minority. "

Almost every time. A more pathetic excuse for injustice is not easy to find.
bil

tKoK-did you stop youy 'tail' Thurs nite last? Policy says no contact if in doubt.Instructions will follow at the main desk.FF cert. also possible. —bil
fsresistor

To king of keene,

Very good the ad hominim attacks, you called me everyname in the book and didnt even have to address one issue I brought up!
theKINGofKEENE

TO: "fsresistor": Dude, I didn't see even *ONE* question that you asked to have answered here, besides how can somebody "hack" your "account" here, which I explained already….ANYBODY can post here under ANY screen name, even STEAL a screen name. Only the site Admin., who can see the email addresses, knows if a poster is "for real", or not. For example, I posted 2 posts as "fsresistor", just to show you how easy it is. (There were 3 posts, all obviously written & posted at the same time. The site admin DID delete them, as noted, in a post, above…But, there are a couple of OTHER "spoof name" posts on here, now, too, so……Yes, it's an ongoing problem.) So, that's one reason why I always refer to a poster by EXACTLY how they post their name – so you're "fsresistor", when I'm writing something about what you have posted…like here…"fsresistor" has posted enough to have established a "persona", so to speak, here on "FREEKEENE"…so, yes, I'd say that you do have an online "identity" here. And while I can only really speak for myself here, I'd say MOST of us here, including Ian & the site admins., really do want honest posts, that are written by who they claim to be. If you think there is some impersonating going on, bring it to the attention of the site admins., and they're usually good about dealing with it. OK?…Now, what issues or questions did I *NOT* answer for you???…~tKoK.
theKINGofKEENE

il on Fri, 12th Aug 2011 9:08 pm

tKoK-did you stop youy ‘tail’ Thurs nite last? Policy says no contact if in doubt.Instructions will follow at the main desk.FF cert. also possible. —bil

……………………………….WTF???………….

……….WTF???…………………………WTF???………………………

………………………..WTF???………………………………

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…..WTF???………………………………………………..~tKoK………….

(…musta got an old codebook from central dispatch…none of these ciphers match the original key, bil…….
bil

You must use the new codebook,signified by the extra 'Y' in the message. —bil
theKINGofKEENE

Ohy. Sorry. Iy thoughty thaty wasy justy youry wayy ofy typingy….~tKoKy…..(…theKINGofKENTUCKYy???…WTFy???……
theKINGofKEENE

fsresistor on Sat, 13th Aug 2011 9:58 am

To king of keene,

Very good the ad hominim attacks, you called me everyname in the book and didnt even have to address one issue I brought up!

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UM, "fsresistor" dude, what "ad hominim" attacks are you referring to, and what issue, or question posed by you did I fail to address???…Are you confusing me with somebody else on here???…Well, c'mon, we're waiting…we haven't got all day…. yet.~tKoK.
JW

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't drop the soap, Bernard!
Happy Daze

So what was the result of Ian's cross/counter Claim,,, or Don't tell me he went in as the defendant??

He Did come in as a Plaintiff, and claimed the police interferred with his rights..

Lol wait dont tell me , he FORGOT to file a frivilous claim, againt the State for failing to state a cliam in which the court could grant relief

Or that the Court lacked jurisdiction, for there was no victim and/or no breach of contract
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