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So where’s the open carry crowd when you need them?
/sarcasm
Reap what you sow.
‘the only one sewing violence is the sfk crew
You’re working for Stop Free Keene David
He’s working for the English Language Destruction League.
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Where was susan Bruce Brandie and Andrea. They all said to care about community. They all said Keene is peaceful
Why didn’t the cop prevent violence. Oh I forgot the supremes said cops are not responsible for your safety. It was the case of two women being raped repeatedly and the cops were called many times but didn’t bother
Seems like argument for guns ownership that susan Bruce opposes
Oh yeah, a gun would’ve made this SOOOOOO much better.
Are those women supposed to pitch a tent and move into the common?
You got me I’m gonna backpedal and say no to guns now right
No man
I’m a constitutionalist and guns is part of my argument. In this case its a deterrence
You would pummel a guy for putting his hands but not carry a gun to protect women or your family?
I don’t believe a gun is appropriate force in response to someone putting their hands on me. I believe pushing someone away is. You cannot anticipate where or how they will land, all you can do is try to remove them from your person (or in this case, the person whom you’re defending). “I’m a constitutionalist” = “I think we should live by a set of rules that were put into place over 200 years ago when you could literally own people by people who literally owned people.” What a swell position. I mean, believe what you want to believe,… Read more »
“I don’t believe a gun is appropriate force in response to someone putting their hands on me.”
And nobody ever said that it was. People who actually own guns and support gun carrying practices probably spent more time thinking about this than you did. Guns are deterrents against assault. Simply wearing a gun on your body for people to see will discourage them from attacking you. It’s that simple. Almost nobody ever has to *use* the gun, because it almost never comes to that.
I have no idea who the guy was. He came onto the square with Dorrie, and it looked to me as if he was just waiting to attack. I’m guessing that it was pre-planned to some extend. The assault itself was brutal, the animal in question took a running start and hit Yankee as hard as he could in the chest, propelling him backward into the fountain, causing not only head trauma but also bodily injuries and a severe neck injury … possibly a broken neck. It looks like the charge on this guy will probably be aggrevated assault or… Read more »
You could have killed Yankee you monster
I don’t think free Keeners would sue but Susan Bruce Andrea and Brandie are worried now that Yankees condition is severe and the medical cost will shoot up.
Regardless of what he did nobody has the right to initiate force unless threatened and from your description unknown man is the aggressor. If he’s part of STOP FREE KEENE!!! theyre going to erase evidences and dig a deeper hole
So Yankee putting his hands on a woman wasn’t aggressive? If you saw a man assaulting a woman you’d leave her to defend herself?
No…Keene is not a scene in a spaghetti western. You have this attitude then I suggest you change or use your power in more just fashion
It’s not? Lately you could’ve fooled me. With Rich Paul riding in with the cavalry, weapon in hand, to intimidate and bully one man who was peacefully cleaning the common when they weren’t around, and then claiming that his part in the violent altercation was “self defense,” I don’t understand how you can support his actions, but not support someone who was trying to remove a man’s grip from a woman’s arm when it was not welcome. I have the attitude that when someone lays hands on you you have the right to subdue your attacker so that you can… Read more »
The suspect is carrying a bucket, was seen to be dumping water on the chalk art, and appears to know Dorrie. So he may be involved in the officially City of Keene sanctioned cleanup efforts by the Monadnock Community Coalition d/b/a STOP FREE KEENE!!!. But the MCC appears not to be a registered corporation with the State of New Hampshire, so the people who run MCC/SFK!!! would probably be legally liable as natural persons via any civil torts that may arise from this felony assault/attempted murder. Kim Diemond, any comment on the legal ramifications for your group, Dorrie, and the… Read more »
MCC is not a corporation – it is just a name for a loosely formed group of citizens that is coordinating efforts to clean up the streets of Keene – and they hold no responsibility for the actions and behaviors of anyone; individually or collectively. The individuals who were washing down the common in these photos are not even affiliated with MCC clean -up efforts – there are a number of individuals that are taking it upon themselves to clean who are not necessarily a part of any group. The common is a public area that the “chalkers” are trying… Read more »
Just caused you said it ain’t doesn’t mean you may not be responsible. There are criteria to judge whether you’re liable and the web footprints are everywhere. People will be compelled to testify
Its hard to believe Yankee wont do a thing about this. Wishing him well doesn’t change a thing
Guesy, I was not even there – and I am not at all impressed with Yankee for a variety of reasons, however I will certainly wish him well whether that changes anything or not. Please understand that JayFreeKeene is trying to elicit anxiety and fear into those who are associated with MCC or SFK!!! even though there is no basis for what he is saying- he is throwing things out there to see what might stick as a passive-aggressive way to attack his opponents. It’s classic. Textbook – and should quite frankly be ignored.
So you’re saying MCC isn’t a legal corporation and went ahead and made an agreement, acting as a corporation, with the City of Keene? Interesting.
No – that is not at all what I said at all – and your narrow focus on an arbitrary matter in light of all that has transpired is a clear indication that you are an antagonist as well. I would however suggest that those that live in glass houses not throw stones.
“The Monadnock Community Coalition recently adopted the Central Square common as part of the city’s Spirit of Place Program, according to Keene Parks and Recreation Director Andrew S. Bohannon. Through the program, private groups can choose parts of the city to improve without costing taxpayers money.” from the Keene Sentinel
It’s quite amusing how a group of people (including you Kim) that antagonizes those it believes are not complying with government rules for corporations…does not follow government rules for corporations.
So when you stalked after people with a night stick you weren’t pre-planning to hit someone with it? You weren’t looking for a fight? You didn’t put people on the defense by showing up when people were being peaceful and cleaning with a small army of people and a weapon? The only animal I see here is you with your constant bullying of everyone in this town. Yankee was seeking violent confrontation as well. He was ranting and raving that he “needed” the fight that took place on Monday night, gloating about it, obviously ready for more, and yet you… Read more »
is it true that dorrie omeara know the perps name but is protecting him from beong brought to justice
May all you Free Keeners live a long and very painful life. I believe Rich Paul attacked Yankee and this is a set up to frame an innocent person.
Nope, there’s very interesting video proving otherwise. Here’s direct video of the attack from what appears to be Yankee holding a cell phone camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8neX_5crA
And here’s video evidence that Dorrie appears to know the person This felony assault/attempted murder suspect also was involved in an altercation on the scene the previous night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhkVVtKzug
There’s no good footage of the attack that I’ve seen.
Do you guys always make it a point to stalk and video record your detractors? I’m specifically referring to the second video.
The ramp up in violence lately should make any of “us” want to document everything as much as possible.
Ok, I think I get that … but just video recording two people walking in a public space, one of which is a detractor of your group? That’s kind of creepy. Quite honestly: Free Keene kind of brings the violence thing upon themselves. I’m not condoning any of it, but when you go out of your way to antagonize and insult people who oppose your point of view bad things are bound to happen. To me, it looks like Free Keene is trying to instigate a confrontation. Free Keene has a right to express their opinions, but they need to… Read more »
Quite honestly: Free Keene kind of brings the violence thing upon themselves. I’m not condoning any of it, but when you go out of your way to antagonize and insult people who oppose your point of view bad things are bound to happen. To me, it looks like Free Keene is trying to instigate a confrontation. I couldn’t agree more with you, Dave. It reminds me of when some woman dresses all slutty and then brings raped upon herself. I’m not condoning the rape, of course, but when you go out of your way to stimulate and tempt people who… Read more »
Are you and MaineShark the same person, or are you two different people who happen to share one brain? The reason I ask is MaineShark just posted a similar message.
Please, do continue. It is quite amusing.
That is the most depressing thing anyone has said to me in months. I remind you of MaineShark? Let me emphatically state for the record that I, most assuredly, am not MaineShark. I am a seeker of truth, an humble, suppliant solicitor of knowledge, eager to discover my own fault that I may by the discovery be so much richer in wisdom. MaineShark, on the other hand, is a wanna-be pseudo-intellectual with some kind of chip on his shoulder, presumably from having been denied the full educational endowment to which his self-perceived genius rightfully entitled him, and now that he’s… Read more »
That’s a rather hilarious post. Who is it that constantly tries to claim superior intelligence? Not I.
Not sure what your issue with my education would be. I majored in aerospace engineering with minors in psychology and philosophy at one of the top colleges in the country. I then decided to mix it up a bit and studied sociology, criminology, and criminal law. I had all of the educational opportunities that I could want.
Who is it that constantly tries to claim superior intelligence? Not I. I can’t believe you’re making me waste my time proving something that you prove yourself so frequently, but for the sake of those who may not yet be acquainted with your perceived self-supremacy, here is just a brief sampling from an endless supply of examples. We start with MaineShark’s response to a post by jayhaw40 informing MaineShark of the obvious truth that, “You are an intellectual giant–at least in your own mind.” In reply, MaineShark gives us this gem of an insight into his self-image: And objectively, of… Read more »
You two disagreeing over an agreement. You agree with Dave and maineshark disagree with him. Suffice to say you guys always disagree so you agree
So, you have a bunch of examples of me stating that others are unintelligent. And one indicating that someone is immature (“childhood” is a state of mind, not an age – there some very youthful adults, and some very-aged children). Do you have any evidence that actually supports your claim that I claimed superior intelligence? For example, expecting someone to know /basic/ English is not quite the same as expecting someone to have /advanced/ linguistic skills. It’s expecting someone to be able to communicate at a /basic/ level. And no, I don’t have a degree. I have more credit-hours of… Read more »
Are you getting all this Dave? Has MaineShark insulted your intelligence yet? Really I cannot resist squeezing every last drop of entertainment out of MaineShark’s self-contraductions by juxtaposing his own words with each other. I am cutting and pasting here, no paraphrasing: Who is it that constantly tries to claim superior intelligence? Not I. …and…. Do you have any evidence that actually supports your claim that I claimed superior intelligence? These are the words of MaineShark, the guy who in this post said that he is “objectively” an “intellectual giant,” and that were he “twice as smart” as jayhawk40 that… Read more »
Your posts are rather ridiculous. Claiming to be more than twice as intelligent as a low-grade moron does not qualify as a claim of superior intelligence. Nothing you have presented supports your claims. Like I said in the post you linked, my kids keep me quite humble. And I’ve also said on a regular basis that intelligence does not make one superior. It can let you obtain a wrong answer faster, just as easily as it can let you obtain a correct answer. Of course, since you can’t even comprehend English and keep track of the difference between “major” and… Read more »
All I want to know is who’s paying my medical expenses, because I just bust my gut laughing at that one.
You’re comparing apples to oranges and quite frankly it’s insulting to rape victims who are regularly told they were asking for it. People have the right to self defense if they are being threatened. Nobody has the right to rape anyone.
Are you and I talking about the same situation? Of course people have the right to self defense if they are being threatened. I would never deny that. But none of the reports of this story involve any self-defense. The victim is in the hospital precisely because of a lack of self-defense. I don’t see how self-defense has anything to do with this story, except as an alternate, hypothetical scenario that never was realized.
Reports are stating allegations that he was the first to lay hands on a woman and the push was to get him off of her. You’re just taking the Free Keene propaganda at face value.
he was the first to lay hands on a woman Okay, I missed that part; thank you for the clarification. I was going by what DaveS69 said, that what the Free Keene dude did was merely to “antagonize and insult people.” He didn’t say that the Free Keene dude had gone so far as committing criminal battery. If that’s true then he was the aggressor and ought to be ostracized for violating the prime directive. As far as propaganda goes, I wasn’t there so I don’t have much of a choice but to accept everyone’s propaganda at face value until… Read more »
I get you. There’s a lot of new information coming out. But when freekeene.com and fr33mantvraw are the only sources for it, the story you get will be spun beyond recognition. They’re very good at playing the victim after inciting violence because they tend to cut out the bits of footage that show the truth.
Don’t buy anything Jay says. They have been recording people who disagree with them just walking down the street, minding their own business, for a very long time. It’s an intimidation tactic. They’re always watching.
Soooooo a video of Dorrie saying, “Do not physically touch me” and the guy you are accusing of assault in the background just standing around? Very compelling evidence.
I moved here thinking Keene was safe. Looks like I will need to be sure I am carrying from now on.
I believe that guns in this matter would have made it worst, People don’t need to loose their life over this.
I’m not a street thug who has any skill at street fighting. I’m an old guy with health problems. If some thug is going to cause me severe injury or death just for standing in a park, it is my right and duty to defend myself. Granted, it looks like the victim was pushed from behind by the coward thug, so opportunity for defense here is limited. But, I can only do what I can.
I understand what your saying I just think if a gun was pulled last night it would have been much worst and not solved any issues I think it would have caused more issues. It is sad that this has turned into violence. We don’t need people killed over this.
Oh I agree. My first thing I do is situational awareness…. I was not there but if it looked like people were gathering in an area with anger level increasing, I have no reason to be there, so I won’t. 95% of problems can be avoided that way.
If Yankee shot unidentified man he wouldn’t be fighting for his life. The constitution doesn’t guarantee safety only liberty.
You could be right he might not be fighting for his life right now, the unidentified man’s friend could have shot him then we would have two dead people. Guns are not the solution to the problem. I’m not saying I don’t support the 2nd amendment, I’m just saying a gun could have made this even worst and it’s not the answer.
Let’s see how far Free Keene wants to take this.
Lets not, one person has already been hurt and that’s one too many.
We differ where you think guns shouldn’t be in certain situation. I generally just pull off all stops on safety and let people be civil. If we kill each other then there wouldn’t be 7 billions of us.
If I agree with you then I think guns make people do stupid things. Its just a thing
No anger & fear make people do stupid things, Guns don’t make people do things
They fear free Keeners because they’re peaceful. Then it turns to hatred and anger like Yoda said
Just look at susan Bruce if you want to find evidence for a gigantic ball of fear. She should stop listening watching msm fearfests
Or, perhaps, if there were obviously armed, the thug might not have tried to kill Yankee, and /no one/ would have been injured, let alone killed.
Actually, you are saying you don’t support the 2nd amendment. Guns are a deterrent first and foremost and you’re just glossing right over that fact. Very weak.
You’re basically making a very weak argument against having the second amendment at all. How lame. Having a visible gun on his hip probably would have prevented any violence from occurring at all. Why can’t you see that and argue for that?
obviously these 2 attackers are worthless scumbags with perpetual violent streaks. A bullet each is the exact solution to this problem….or do we wait until the 3rd or 4th victim occurs, or maybe wait for them to kill someone? I’m not a gun nut, but when you want to drive a nail you use a hammer, when you want to cut wood you use a saw. when you want 2 violent dregs of society stopped you use the right tool.
According to Rich this should be considered “aggravated assault,” yet when a man was just walking through the park, trying to leave to avoid confrontation with Free Keene, Rich’s use of a weapon to taunt and threaten him was “self defense” Mariah preemptively hitting the men crossing the street was “self defense” even though the man had expressly told her he would not hit her. You’ve all tried to spin it like those people were in the wrong for crossing the street to come near you guys, when you brought six or more people to the common where a man… Read more »
I believe that you can find fault in both sides of this. So also ask at what point will SKF take a step back and think about their roll in this is.
SFK have been taking a step back. They have not been downtown cleaning for days. The recent cleaners have been locals not affiliated with SFK taking it upon themselves. Some requested to join the SFK fb group AFTER taking it upon themselves to clean and AFTER these incidents. In the past few weeks SFK members have gone down to clean when no FK members were around. But members of FK noticed and called in groups of FK members to confront them. Every single time FK has showed up, FK members have been the ones to engage aggressively while SFK members… Read more »
horsefeathers… keep trying
[…] Free Keene is reporting that a local man by the name of Matthew Oldershaw, aka Yankee, was assaulted yesterday in Keene’s Central Square. Rich Paul later posted on his Facebook profile that the man appears to have a broken neck. […]
How does it not surprise me that Dorrie was there? She seems to think she owns keene. I bet she didn’t lift a finger to help the injured person.
It seems that only a handful
out of the maybe 2 dozen that were in the square stopped to assist the injured person. Video shows the City of Keene/MCC/SFK!!! authorized chalk censorship crew continuing to pour water on the sidewalks.
So their priority was cleaning chalk smiley faces off the sidewalk, instead of helping an injured person. That disgusts me, as a community member. Dorrie herself, I know her a little bit, and she is no example of a good person. She deliberately causes confrontations either in person or on the sidelines.
“She deliberately causes confrontations either in person or on the sidelines.”
Stay tuned, there’s some interesting evidence to be posted in this felony assault/attempted murder case shortly.
“She deliberately causes confrontations either in person or on the sidelines.”
Well, to be fair – many of the Free Keene folks do so as well.
Dorrie has years of history doing this. Free Keene, not so much.
http://m.sentinelsource.com/mobile/news/local/keene-man-injured-when-he-s-pushed-into-central-square/article_9cafaecf-6af2-511e-b9fa-26becbfa3bf5.html
So Dorrie is claiming he was going to assault her, so what was done was in defense of her.
If he really did grab her arm, then he assaulted her. Is that in dispute? You are the one that posted the link to the newspaper article that described the assault.
He is not being charged with assault, and it’s all alleged. There is video of the incident, did you watch it?
I read the article that you posted a link to – is the article incorrect?
Keene police responded to Central Square at about 6:43 p.m. Police said they are still investigating who was involved in the altercation and no one has been charged yet in connection with the assault. Which means nobody was charged with assault. I find it interesting that Dorrie can identify the man who “grabbed her arm” but yet has no idea what happened or who did the pushing. By her own words, “believes a man tried to move Oldershaw off her”, yet supposedly he had only grabbed her arm, how was he “on” her, and how does she know what happened… Read more »
I am not surprised that once again, Dorrie has put herself in the middle of what doesn’t concern her. 2 years ago she was complaining about people using the benches and gazebo for what it was meant for, complaining about drunk people sitting down on the benches, and complaining about how people “looked”. She lost that complaint, and now she’s gone and opened a bar, after being so vehement against drunks at night. She lost that fight….so now she’s put herself in the middle of this one.
What exactly could more people have done to assist him? Do you think he would have magically healed through the power of positive thinking? Maybe had they encircled him and done the carebear stare…. I’m sure they’ll try that next time.
Really tho .. .I have to thank you and several other people for the entertainment. Not a one person was saying that absolutely everyone at the scene should of assisted the wounded person (my child’s father). I think you know that but hahaha great argument. In case your not sure what the problem people are having(just to catch you up) is that the rest of the people at the scene acted as though nothing was going on when there was a seriously injured person laying there.
Care bear stare! hahaha so witty you are. KNOW I mean…..REALLY THO!!!! If your loved one or yourself was laying near dead from an assault that occurred while YOU WERE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!…..it would not be the typical reaction of a decent human being to continue on like nothing at all happened.
The person who helped him could have potentially caused him more harm by moving his head and neck around which is the number one thing you are not supposed to do in that situation, but get mad at the bystanders for not doing…. god knows what you wanted them to do. Punch the guy who shoved him? Start freaking out? Crowd him and stare with frowny faces? Where nobody there was trained in medicine they probably helped by not involving themselves. He needed to lie still until help arrived. There was nothing more people could have done. How did Rich… Read more »
It’s also very sad to see you defending the people who used your child’s father as a pawn and caused him to get severely injured. These people are not your friends. They got the martyr they were looking for by starting fights and conflicts for two weeks straight to ramp up their propaganda machine, right after trying to publicly disassociate with him the night before. They got out unscathed and he is in serious condition. How convenient for them. Open your eyes.
I am thankful he is okay but in no way do I care about any of this. I worry about him and my daughter does love her father and would be sad if he died. Does Keene need a giant kindergarten teacher to go there and break up the pathetic playground fighting?
There was only one person that caused him his injuries. Pretty sad you think I agree with all this crap. No way!!!! I hate adults acting like children. I hate the town of Keene. Anyone not from Keene…you want to meet a pleasant decent human being? I suggest strongly to stay the hell away from that town. Chalk drawings?! Skanky drama filled bar owners causing bad attention to themselves? Yeah Keene is a joke. OPEN YOUR EYES! The crap cause is just below an IQ (point out I can’t spell to impress you enough) of mentally challenged people. Yeah not… Read more »
I agree. I am thankful that Dorrie is a unintelligent person and she will pay(AND I MEAN PAY) dearly for this. She will soon no who I am and she will not like me.No one likes you Dorrie and you know it! That is why you have your hired pay walking around with you.
You do realize that what you wrote constitutes a threat, right?
I mean out of wallet. So no not really
So how will she “pay” for “this” (whatever that is) then?
I am going to see her in court. I do not agree with someone trying to have my daughter be without her father is what I mean.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand … is the person that was injured the father of your daughter?
He is. I am done with these discussions. I am a human being with actual human emotion so I might not word things in a way understood at this time. I know it can be a hard thing for some to relate.
Why would she help someone who assaulted her?
There’s no proof he ever touched her.
What a baby, FK has provoked the community for years and now it is starting to come back and bite them. I’m honestly surprised it took this long and it’s not over yet. Some people are simply unable to learn a lesson without a good thumping. Perhaps this little twit will think twice before defacing a memorial again.
I have NO/ZERO/NADA/ZILCH affiliation with SFK, I simply support their mission from afar.
I think the lesson to be learned for Free Keene is: if you go looking for trouble, you will most likely find it. I don’t condone violence from either side, but the antagonistic nature of Free Keene tends to bring out the worst in people. It doesn’t matter if it’s “just chalk”: These Free Keene members are defacing public property, encouraging others to do the same, and making many people in the community very unhappy about it. Again: If this is yet another example of Free Keene trying to win over the people of Keene to their side, then I… Read more »
I agree completely. I am sorry these people are representing the liberty movement in the manner they are.
You tell rape victims it was their fault for “dressing slutty,” too, don’t you?
Wow … really? That’s pretty lame. You will have to do much better than that.
Nope, it’s an accurate comparison.
I don’t think anyone deserves violence over chalking. I do, however, think that self defense is every individual’s right. The Free Keene crew went looking for fights two days in a row, the first time they brought a large group of people and at least one weapon. They enlisted a scapegoat, paid him to incite violence, and then want to simultaneously disassociate with him while making him a martyr for their cause.
Time for Restraint.
My post after Today’s Sentinel article.
“Time for a Time Out?
With an injury and more aggressive conflict occurring in Central
Square maybe its time for both groups to call a time out and not part
take in activities in the Square for one week.
This fracas makes the activities of previous groups of Juggalos, 420ers, Saturday morning peace protesters,
and the yellow ribbon support troops people seem almost…. quaint in
comparison.”
There are no safe places anymore, usually the wealthiest of kids are the punkiest. No one has ever made them accountable for their actions… hope they catch this punk ass boy…. He wished he knew what gang affiliation was…. He is just a punk with a big mouth.
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I am an anarchist and what Robin Hood and Free Keene are doing is the completely wrong way to gather support for their cause or oppose the state. Opposition needs to come in the form of charities, good works, mutual aid and intentional community building. What they are doing is creating a well intrenched mainstream opposition to the ideas that they wish to promote. I feel this is being done for the sake of YouTube likes and for talking points on Free Talk live.
One lesson to take from this: situational awareness is key. Assume that anyone can attack you at anytime. Don’t assume that words will not turn into fists. Be aware of your situation at all times. Don’t allow people to get close enough to you to hurt you unless you have very good reason to trust them.
Run along, freak show.
It’s unfortunate, but not unexpected, that somebody finally got hurt. However, despite how Free Keene is playing this, this guy Yankee is NOT a victim. Victims don’t go about asking for trouble as he did. Victims are never partially responsible for the things that happen to them but Yankee went to that square in a confrontational state of mind, and when you begin poking a hornets nest, eventually you WILL be stung. This should serve as a lesson to the rest of Free Keene. A large part of the blame in the escalation rests on your shoulders. None of you… Read more »
Assault is assault why are you making a justification for it?
No justification. Merely pointing out “cause and affect”. It is clear that Yankee was the initial instigator. If he kept his hands and mouth to himself he wouldn’t be in the hospital now. He wasn’t just an innocent bystander who was minding his business. He was looking for trouble and found it.
I’ve heard the same argument about women getting raped. You will not win this. You are already on the wrong side.
Win what? I’m not on either side. I am not a member of Free Keene OR Stop Free Keene. I couldn’t give a shit about chalk.
Bad comparison to rape. Nobody sets out to get raped. Yankee was verbally assaulting people beforehand. He was actively baiting people to fight him and somebody took him up on it. That isn’t victim behavior by any stretch.
Yawn, you are really not good at this. But keep trying to justify assault. I do this because I think it is the right thing to do. I think you get paid to justify assault..
Again… NOT justifying anything. I’m just saying that if you can’t foresee getting beaten up as a potential side effect of being an asswipe then you’re a friggin moron. Right or wrong, that’s just reality dude.
So if you or somebody you know gets their neck broke its OK? Really? You might want to back up a few steps…… Please tell me how you justify breaking somebody’s neck.
Please tell me how you justify shooting someone.
Since you are clearly stupid, I will say it a third time: I am not justifying anything. Apparently you have absolutely no idea what remaining neutral looks like.
… by them assaulting someone else first, that’s how. And btw: do you know for a fact that his “neck is broken”, or is this just more Free Keene hyperbole?
He supposedly grabbed her arm. Supposedly. THAT does not require a broken neck!
Ok, look … if a woman dresses provocatively and gets attacked, that’s one thing … but if she shows up naked, sits in your lap, puts her tongue down your throat and a hand down your pants … well, you get the picture. She can’t really say it was rape after that.
This guy put his hands on someone, and her friend reacted. Not so innocent after all, it would appear.
It’s not an accurate comparison. But, even if it was… /yes/ she /can/ say it was rape. No means no, whether it is said before or right in the middle of things. If she changes her mind and tells you to stop, and you keep going, you are a rapist. End of story.
I agree with maineshark after watching lacy green video. The laws that Dave champions can get him in trouble
Excuse me? It doesn’t matter WHEN a woman says no, no means NO. So yes, she CAN say rape! With that statement, I wonder how many women you’ve raped?!
It doesn’t help that SFK!!! actively rebukes anyone who suggests de-escalating the situation on their group. The admins keep saying their mantra of “we tried ignoring them, therefore we can’t ignore them anymore” instead, and it unfortunately likely contributed to this assault.
Not ignoring and assaulting are two drastically different things. Why is it Stop Free Keene’s responsibility to stop cleaning and not Free Keene’s responsibility to stop chalking? Especially considering it is people like Rich Paul who are provoking the violent altercations, bringing weapons, getting in people’s faces, and insulting them.
FYI, that “weapon” is a camera monopod.
Really Jay? It took you five days to come up with this one? I know what a monopod is, I know what a baton is, your friends were carrying a baton, as seen being swung around by Mariah in the video, similar to how a police officer swings there’s. http://i.imgur.com/m3xkHf4.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRl1TqSLpFU Tell me Jay, why would Mariah twirl around a monopod? Weren’t you all complaining about “theft?” I’d think if you cared about your “equipment” you would not be twirling it around. Why would she be hitting things with it later, loud clanking and laughing present in the background? She… Read more »
you are violent and then lie about it.. 🙂 thats SFK’s mo…how they roll.. and then their mo is a childish “no you are” …its shameful and they put a “peaceful” in their headline… SFK are insane and should be purged from keene
Evidence please. As an onlooker to this conflict I cannot draw conclusions if all anyone provides is conjecture.
Um, no – it’s not. And that’s why your douchebag friend is back in jail.
Minor nitpick here but I’d just like to comment that carrying weapons is not a provocation. Brandishing said weapons and threatening to use them *is* a provocation, but simply having them on-hand is not. I just want to make sure we’re on the same page here, I didn’t see what happened with Rich so I can’t speak for how he handled himself.
I think there’s more than enough blame to go around on both sides. This all started because of the profanity written after the Phat Stuff bust and if SFK kept it to cleaning the profanity and leaving everything else alone then it wouldn’t have progressed to this point. But then, denying that the smilies weren’t chalked all over the place just to goad SFK on is just plain dishonest. Both sides need to act a bit more mature and fess up that they’ve both made mistakes and move on. The madness needs to stop.
Oh wow, this guy doesn’t know what he got himself into. He thinks that Free Keene is a bunch of pacifist Christians who are just going to turn the other cheek, and not even press charges with the police. He doesn’t realize they are going to take matters into their own own hands. They are going to ID him, track him down, and then they are going to gang-ostracize him.
LOL!
I have personally asked both Ian and Dorrie to de esculate the situation on Jun 4, Tiananmen Square Day of all times. The leaders of both factions were out and being interviewed by WMUR.
Again, let’s give it a rest. A week away from Central Square for both parties would benefit the larger community.
And you are who, exactly?
Steve Lindsey
state rep ( retired )
Keene, NH
Well whoop-dee-fucking-doo.
You poke the bear … you get the fangs and claws. I guess this is a case of FK reaping what they have sown.
Your guess is as good as mine. I might support the cause of Free Keene as an Anarcho-Capitalist myself, but I won’t be making any conclusions about this event without some cold hard evidence.
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Perhaps Keene should find a way to put a couple of officers on foot patrol in town. And if there is some kind of gang activity starting up it should be squelched before it takes hold. The last thing Keene needs are more boneheads walking around carrying guns “just because”. It’s sad that these things are happening in Keene.
And as for “Free Keeners” a##holes. plain and simple.
Police patrol would constitute “gang activity”. The last thing I want to see is people relying on police to protect them when the community can potentially handle it much better with less complications.
Apparently “Free Keeners” don’t want anyone knowing what A##holes are as they deleted a post they don’t agree with, guess they don’t believe in what the A##holes preach.
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Someone should find these two wannabe thugs, drop them off in Dorchester, Ma. See how tough they really are.
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