Peaceful Devolution

Ian Freeman is embarrassing.

It’s a view you rarely never see on this blog, but it’s a view held by myself and a serious portion of liberty activists in the Keene area. (Not to mention the overwhelming majority of Keene residents.) Lately it’s been the senseless pestering of city bureaucrats, the quixotic school outreach, and his involvement in the war on grandmas. Yes, he does other things which are more legitimate and professional, but, for as long as I’ve been in New Hampshire, it seems that Ian has always been vocally supporting activism that’s jarringly wrong-headed.

I joined this blog in 2010 in order to openly criticize certain activist tactics that struck me as counterproductive. At the time, I was worried that the suppression of criticism was creating an atmosphere of groupthink— a situation where the systematic lack of criticism leads groups to make wildly irrational decisions. Since then, I’ve changed some hearts and minds with regards to criticism, and caused people to look twice at things they’ve taken for granted. This has been very satisfying.

But, where it really matters, I have failed. I had assumed the groupthink emerged spontaneously from the interactions of many people. In reality, groupthink occurs because Ian Freeman consistently and deliberately marginalizes criticism and critics, and derails open discussions of the flaws of activist strategies.

It took this thread on the Shire Society forum to make me understand this. (I get a bit carried away in my first posts because I’m blinded by rage, but take a few days to calm down, and post more reasonably later.)

Since I’m not as irrational as Ian, I’m acknowledging this new information, and changing my own tactics accordingly. It’s pointless to try to debate with someone who doesn’t believe there should be debate or open discussion.

Short of coercion, the only realistic option available to those of us who would like to see activist tactics improve, rather than stagnate or regress, is to apply social pressure to make Ian stop. I am convinced that this is the only way things will change. It’s frustrating and absurd that it has come down to this, but Ian has blocked every other alternative.

As part of this effort, I will no longer be posting on Free Keene. More than anything else at this point, I suspect that my blogging only feeds Ian’s egomania. Like a Democrat on Fox news, I’m just here to support the pretense that Free Keene is fair and balanced.

I know some of my fellow bloggers agree with these concerns, and I encourage them to join me. Perhaps it’s time for a new group blog, one not stifled by Free Keene’s cult of personality. Alternately, I’m sure Free Manch would welcome new bloggers.

AdiĆ³s Free Keene, and good riddance.

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87 Comments

  1. Thank you for your honesty, Skeptikos, and thank you for expressing from 'inside the system' as it were, something for which many of us 'dissenters' have been chided for trying to highlight. I think you are absolutely correct in your observations, and I can only hope that others in Free Keene will soon allow themselves to wake up and come to the same conclusion.

    While I may disagree with many/most of the fights Free Keene choses to pursue, I would be much less disgruntled if the members didn't chose such childish antics…and I can't imagine why someone who actually wants to make positive change wouldn't agree with this.

    Bravo for breaking free of the groupthink mentality which Ian and others so vehemently proclaim does not exist.

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  2. It's sad to see level headed activists being scared away by the crazy childish antics of folks like Ian and Derrick. I think they have turned Free Keene into a joke. They don't listen to constructive criticism. Hopefully when they grow up they will look back and realize how foolish they were.

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  3. wow.

    If Ian is as narcissistic, -a word you didn't use – and IRRATIONAL as you claim,

    why, Skepticos, does he let YOU post this here?

    I, too, share your concerns…

    When "FreeKeene" first started, many of us locals welcomed the

    "fresh blood", and the "new meat"…

    We joined in, early on, with high hopes….

    But over time, we have become disillusioned.

    Sure, I could bring the "Anarcho-Jesse-gardening-with-guns" debacle,

    and there are other aberrations, and minor group conflicts…

    That stuff just goes with the territory…

    But, ***BUT***… the idiotic, insane, inane, irrational behaviour of Ian

    just goes on & on & on….

    Too many of us have TRIED, but FAILED, and GIVEN UP,

    ever talking ANY sense to Ian…

    And, like attracts like, so Ian's latest accolytes – altar boy & girl, are Derrick

    & Kelly, both apparently from Philly…

    And both equally psychotic… (Hey, I LIKE psychos…up to a point…but – ………)

    So what inevitable conclusion are we left with???

    It really can only be ONE of TWO ways. It COULD be BOTH, but that's really

    the same thing. So, here it is:

    1. Ian is a psychopath, and thus possibly dangerous due to his delusional mindset.

    2. IAN IS A FED. A PLANT. An "AGENT PROVOCATEUR"…a NARC…

    ~*~**~*~*~**~**~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~~*~**~*~*~~*~~~*~*~~**~*~*~~**~~

    Which is it, Ian???……

    Are you a FLAKE, or a FED???……

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  4. Bill, your right they have made the moment a joke, and not a funny one. The video Skeptikos posts on that mentioned thread depicts the harassment of an old woman. They attempt to hide behind the "she is a civil servant" wall in the remainder of the thread but the truth is she is a human being who they harassed. They (Ian/Derrick) claim that they did nothing to bother her and that she was the aggressor but harassment is all on the eye of the recipient. They seam unable to understand the ramifications of their actions. I NEVER supported the FSP or Free Keene but I do agree with this individual who makes some excellent points. Thank you Skeptikos.

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  5. Ian is not a psychopath. His personality doesn't fit the profile at all.

    I don't think it's plausible that he's a fed, either. He has way, way, way too much history with libertarianism. Plus, Mark would probably have to be in on it, which would make it an incredibly complex operation.

    My best guess is that the power / influence got to his head, and he's just totally lost touch with reality.

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  6. "My best guess is that the power / influence got to his head, and he’s just totally lost touch with reality."

    Ironic, given that this is exactly the kind of 'statist' mentality he wishes to see dismantled.

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  7. "…? on Wed, 21st Mar 2012 10:29 am

    “My best guess is that the power / influence got to his head, and he’s just totally lost touch with reality.”

    Ironic, given that this is exactly the kind of ‘statist’ mentality he wishes to see dismantled."

    It is ironic… you know that what happened to communism people go mad with power, whether they have it or only think they have it.

    In responce to your

    "If Ian is as narcissistic, -a word you didn’t use – and IRRATIONAL as you claim, why, Skepticos, does he let YOU post this here?"

    Do you worry about what an ant says about you? Ian's ego is so big he thinks he is untouchable… 'Let the naysayers speak they cant harm me'.

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  8. SHTF time, kiddies…

    So, what do we do? What CAN we DO?….

    Skepticos says only some sort of social ostracism will work…

    Maybe. Maybe not…

    What if, what if…

    What if I say that I am going to hunt down and with extreme prejudice terminate

    Ian's little party???….

    You gonna "report" that "threat"???…

    To WHOM???…

    Will they care?

    If Ian is a FED, the Feds will have to step in, to protect their boy…

    But, if Ian is NOT a Fed, will KPD, or the Cheshire County Sherrif, or

    NH State Police CARE? Would they act? Or NOT???….

    I can see it now.

    Suppose I publically announce that I will TERMINATE Ian……

    KPD approaches me quietly, and says,

    "Be careful, we can only cover you so far…Make it look accidental, or like suicide, if you can….wear rubber gloves, and be careful of leaving any forensic clues…

    See, Ian, I consider these options in RESPONSE TO YOUR BEHAVIOR.

    THIS is what you provoke in people, Ian…

    You need to think long and hard, Ian…

    If you can't get your head out of your ass, Ian, you just might wake up one day

    to find that your head has been stapled to your ass, and sealed shut.

    If you can't get your head out of your ass on your own, well, what if???……

    What if, Ian???…..***WHAT***IF***???………._________________________?

    Keene is done with you, Ian…

    Your little dalliance with Dorrie O'Meara will only bear bitter fruit……

    And the 262 "votes" you got in the school board election?

    They're called "protest votes", Ian.

    They were moreso a vote AGAINST the status quo, than a vote FOR YOU.

    ~**~*~~*~~**~*~~*~**~*~*~**~*~***~*~**~*~***~*~~~*~~*~*

    Personally, Ian has always been fine with me. This isn't about ME.

    It IS about ALL the PEOPLE of KEENE

    The SUPER-MAJORITY of Keeniacs either don't know, don't care, or actively HATE YOU, Ian…

    If I were you, I'd either be making major changes, or packing my bags…

    That is YOUR CHOICE, Ian….

    You either make some major changes, leave, or_______________________

    That's no "THREAT", Ian, that is ONLY KARMA……

    You shit the bed, Ian, so either sleep in it, or change the sheets….

    That's my best advice to you….

    There are some other issues around criminal copyright infringement,

    which as you know, the F.B.I. investigates zealously, but we'll leave THAT

    for LATER, dude, later…………………….

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  9. Power? What power? I run a blog. How has power run to my head? I would have supported recording that old lady crossing guard five years ago when my blog didn't have the same "power".

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  10. My best guess is that the power / influence got to his head, and he’s just totally lost touch with reality.

    _________________________________________________

    Lost touch with reality???…WTF???….

    Dude, THAT IS the textbook definition of "psychotic"….

    Hey, I'm on your side – I think so, anyways….

    ;(

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  11. theKINGofKEENE you cant kill him that will make him a martyr and we don't want that.

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  12. Ian, I have no problem with you ONLY "filming that old lady crossing guard",

    if that was all you guys did….

    But, Derrick *GOT*IN*HER*FACE* with the camera, and

    INVADED her SOVEREIGN SPACE…..

    There is no doubt in my mind, that she felt physically THREATENED, and

    her "assault", as FAGGOT DERRICK calls it, was in reality,

    her legitimate attempt at self-defense.

    Yes, Ian, you and FAGGOT DERRICK, and Kelly V. ASSAULTED that elderly crossing

    guard…

    I see it that way, and I KNOW Judge Burke feels that way…

    I'm no fan of Judge Burke, but I am civilized enough to accept that he is the

    Presiding Justice of Kangaroo / ("keene district" ) Court….

    I may be KINGofKEENE

    But, Burke is KINGofKEENE.COURT………

    Don't worry, Burke, we got your back on this one…

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  13. "Power? What power? I run a blog. How has power run to my head? I would have supported recording that old lady crossing guard five years ago when my blog didn’t have the same “power”."

    Yes, Ian….your ONLY involvement with this 'movement' is sitting behind your computer desk fixing broken codes and approving new bloggers.

    Please, don't you think you at least owe whoever is still willing to listen to you SOME degree of self awareness and honesty? On the one hand you proclaim the 'influence' of your 'movement' and then you turn around and drop ANY sense of responsibility when you are being criticized.

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  14. The Porcupine Hunter on Wed, 21st Mar 2012 10:45 am

    theKINGofKEENE you cant kill him that will make him a martyr and we don’t want that.

    ~*~**~*~*~**~*~*~*~~*~*~~*~***~*~~~*~*~~*~*~*~~*~~*~**~*~

    No shit, Sherlock?

    Rhetoric must not have been your favorite subject in school….

    Re-read my posts CAREFULLY….

    No, I do NOT "write down" to my audience…

    And yes, I also speak for ***US***….

    I have "MPD" – Multiple Personality Disorder.

    When you talk to me, you never know WHO you're talking to!

    We have fun…

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  15. Please, don’t you think you at least owe whoever is still willing to listen to you SOME degree of self awareness and honesty? On the one hand you proclaim the ‘influence’ of your ‘movement’ and then you turn around and drop ANY sense of responsibility when you are being criticized.

    ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Yes, my friend " …? "…..another sign of Ian's PSYCHOSIS………

    He's out of touch with reality…

    That's what we're saying.

    In OUR opinion, Ian is so psycho, he's dangerous…

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  16. KOK,

    Check the footage again. Derrick did not get in her face. She got in his face. The video doesn't lie.

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  17. King-

    That may be a definition of psychotic, but psychopathic has a different definition. "Psychopath" is not appropriate here at all.

    If I could, I would delete a few of your comments because they are incredibly inappropriate.

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  18. Ian on Wed, 21st Mar 2012 10:54 am

    KOK,

    Check the footage again. Derrick did not get in her face. She got in his face. The video doesn’t lie.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Correct, Ian, the VIDEO doesn't lie,

    But PSYCHOPATHS such as YOU LIE like a rug….

    STFU, and GTFO…………..

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  19. obviously sarcasm escapes you… all of you.

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  20. I would DELETE IAN, for being even MORE "inappropriate"….

    Right back at ya, Skeptikos…

    You musta flunked Rhetoric class, too….

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  21. There was a time when Law of Attraction became almost an obsession with a lot of Free Keene folks. Though folks have mostly moved on from that subject, it seems to me that this lack of objectivity and lack of ability to process constructive criticism is a bit of a hold-over from that mindset which simply wasn't very rational. It's almost a kind of optimism that's so excessive as to believe that your results can only be positive and never negative as long as your motives are pure and you follow the NAP. It's actually faith-based.

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  22. Dale, are you saying that some government workers are exempt from being recorded?

    Of course there are negative reactions to activism – there are negative reactions to ANY activism, even politics!

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  23. Good! You were the worst blogger here. You should also leave new Hampshire while you are at it.

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  24. Haha, well maybe we should just have a fistfight, Adam.

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  25. skepticos : Why is it "all about Ian"? …

    (He avoids a lot of questions so….I may not get a answer to this)

    Also…if its "all about Ian" and he marginalizes criticism ..why were you aloud to be a blogger here in the first place.

    And YOU are the one that's leaving .he's not BOOTING YOU (squelching criticism)

    And you posted THIS which is very critical ……

    I doubt I will get answers to these.

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  26. I really dont get it he's mad at Ian for " marginalizing critical opinions" so he's leaving as a blogger on Ian's site…

    What kind of sense does that make

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  27. were you not aloud to post stuff? That you wanted to post because it was "critical of Ian" …It doesn't seem so..

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  28. maybe there should be a sit down instead of ..all cyber discussions

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  29. Ian asked me to blog to provide a more diverse set of views. As far as I can tell, Ian has ignored everything I've ever said on this blog, so it seems like that was simply an attempt to make Free Keene appear more open-minded. (At the time, Ian and Free Keene were getting a lot of flack for promoting a lot of over-the-top civil disobedience stuff.) Basically, I was the equivalent of the token Democrat on Fox news.

    I'm leaving because I don't want to support the pretense that Ian or Free Keene is open-minded, by being the token in-the-system guy. I was promoting Ian's cause, not mine, by blogging here.

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  30. Is some of the activism Ian Freeman does embarrassing to me? Sure it is.

    Do I disagree with Ian on tactics? Absolutely.

    Do I think Ian has created a groupthink here because Ian Freeman consistently and deliberately marginalizes criticism and critics, and derails open discussions of the flaws of activist strategies.? Personally, I've never seen it happen. Though, I admit, I didn't read that 19 page thread on the Shire Society Forum. I've talked with Will about this before and I just don't see much groupthink at all around here. People around here are constantly criticizing each other. Sometimes it is constructive, and sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it happens behind people's back. I see it around here and I see it in most of society. It's healthy and normal.

    Is Ian an egomania? That's not the image I have of Ian at all. Ian has very strong beliefs. Even when Ian is wrong, which when it comes to tactics, is much of the time, Ian is still brave and confident in himself. Let's face it. Ian is a self made success story. He constantly does principled things and has a sense of self-righteousness about his activism. Try talking with him, though. He is a humble man. He doesn't even claim credit for all of the things he does. I never see him rub his accomplishments in other people's faces. He frequently donates to others and does not point it out to everyone.

    I will be sad to see Will go. This blog could use more useful political information and interesting statistical analysis. Will provided most of those posts here.

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  31. "As far as I can tell, Ian has ignored everything I’ve ever said on this blog, so it seems like that was simply an attempt to make Free Keene appear more open-minded."

    I think he stickied a couple of your posts either on this blog or the forum at the Shire Society Forum. So he did really enjoy at least a couple things you wrote and wanted to make sure others saw your work.

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  32. If you look through the thread on the Shire Society forum, it's basically 19 pages of Ian doing everything he possibly can to avoid addressing criticism, and pretending that the last three years of discussion on this topic (including my blogs here) never happened. Plus encouraging other people to ignore criticism. (Voila, groupthink!)

    There is zero difference between what he has been saying recently and what he was saying 3 years ago. There has been no learning in the meantime. It's maddening. Everything we are saying is being blatantly, completely ignored.

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  33. Psst…hey david, 'aloud' has two 'll's'.

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  34. david-keene

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  35. "alloud"? wtf? oops! sorry! I wrote that last post bass-ackwards…

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  36. Ian keeps bringing up “right” and “wrong” in this discussion. I haven’t seen anyone say that it is wrong to record a crossing guard. The words that come to mind when I watch the video are childish, immature, and unnecessary. Just because you CAN, doesn’t mean you SHOULD. If you ask me, this concept is even more important in a libertarian society.

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  37. psst…it's "allowed"

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  38. I disassociated completely from FK way before everyone else was doing it :)

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  39. "Dale, are you saying that some government workers are exempt from being recorded?" -Ian

    Where is that coming from? Where did I say anything like that? It's as Julia said. You keep making it about what is allowed vs. not allowed or what is in compliance with the NAP vs. what is not. I've never, ever suggested anyone should be exempt from recording. I've even carefully disputed that suggestion very early on and it seemed to register at that time. I don't know why it's coming up yet again.

    Just read what I said and quit changing it to an argument that you have a scripted response for.

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  40. Wish I could "like" Dales response.

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  41. Right, but that's what's got Will so upset, Dale. He doesn't like that I won't do activism his way and accuses me of not listening to him, simply because I disagree.

    You don't think it was a problem to record the crossing guard, but had very valid critique regarding video presentations.

    I'm sorry, it sounded like you were suggesting that I couldn't take critique, which is total nonsense.

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  42. P.S. You should get a gravatar so your posts can better stand out from the trolls.

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  43. is julia from keene talking

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  44. because if so ..its a different julia from normal.. nvrmnd

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  45. "I’m sorry, it sounded like you were suggesting that I couldn’t take critique, which is total nonsense."

    Really? *Total* nonsense, Ian? I think you're giving yourself quite a lot of (undo) credit there.

    Which critiques have you actually taken under substantial consideration over the past few years?

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  46. HEY allowed and aloud sound the same..lol…and the spell checker was snoozing

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  47. @David

    "HEY allowed and aloud sound the same..lol"

    Yeah, they're called homophones, or heterographs – your choice.

    Maybe you can start using oronyms.

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  48. david-keene on Wed, 21st Mar 2012 5:01 pm

    HEY allowed and aloud sound the same..lol…and the spell checker was snoozing

    Spellcheck was working fine. Idiotcheck, however, was not.

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  49. homo and hetero….nice……….maybe they are Biographs

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