Free Keene

Comment by modelmotion

November 23, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

A society that puts an individual in jail for something like this can hardly call itself civilized. It is time for those who operate the system to denounce it for what it is. WRONG. If a judge is going to do something that is pure EVIL then it is WRONG for the enforcement agents to just go along with his order.

Comment by Anonymous

November 23, 2008 @ 6:25 pm

Allow video cameras in the jail.

Comment by John Galt

November 23, 2008 @ 9:27 pm

This is John Galt speaking:

The cool thing about where the “Freedom Couch” was sitting is that it can be a rallying place for freedom (so keep in mind, not just birdwatching as it once was, I’ve heard). It probably will be easy to locate because of dead grass, dirt, or whatever underneath.

I’ve even come up with a name for a bench, suitable for outdoor use even by Keene’s stupid laws. A big boost for Liberty would be to place the bench in the exact spot where the old couch sat. The letters K.M.A.G. (or K-MAG if you like) could be painted on the bench. The letter “K” stands for “kiss”, the “G” is for “government”. I’m sure you can figure out the other two letters in the middle and what they stand for.

Of course Ian would have to be okay with a part of his property being used for such a thing in the first place. If so, then because Ian is also a very intelligent man and would likely realize the benefit of Keene having it’s own “Liberty Bell”. A flag of true freedom that flies in the face of busybodies, cops, judges, and other riff-raff.

A permanent artifact in his yard that the powers-that-only-they-think-be can do nothing about except cry.

“K-MAG Bench”, nice eh? I’ll bet that the more you bounce that around in your head, the more you’ll like it.

With Liberty,

John Galt

P.S. If Ian isn’t okay with a bench being put on his property, I’ve got a backup plan that a lot of Free-Staters are still going to love and make many good people there happy. You are free to contact me by email if you want to know more. zenger(at)rock.com

Comment by Mike Smithson

November 24, 2008 @ 1:26 pm

And law enforcement guys who worry about losing their jobs can join LEAP anonymously. We don’t “out” people. If they want to join but are concerned with their exposure, there’s no problem. At some pt, everyone will be able to be public.

Comment by Tim Datig

November 24, 2008 @ 3:33 pm

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Comment by Jimmy

November 24, 2008 @ 10:40 pm

I honestly think that the moment that it will take the human beings of the nation to understand the process of Law and exercise their duty of due diligence as a citizen.

The only reason policy-enforcers (polic-e) have to enact these inhumane crimes is because the process allows much remedy for any injustices every step of the way. We are, however, conditioned from the days of youth to believe that there is an authority outside of ourselves. There is none. Not one person in law has taken your human authority either, because you unwittingly give it away.

These peace officers want to be appreciated for their work, risking their lives and so on. Unfortunately, their duties of policy enforcement create an inroad. People need to understand that we are not speaking English when talking to police, we are speaking Law. Whenever you hand over gov’t ID, as per their training and habits, you are consenting to hand over authority. Every Single Time. What’s worse is that people think it’s for their own good. Don’t ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, hand over ID when you are not engaged in commerce or business. This includes any form of travel, recreation, spot checks for any reason. If you are not profiting from your actions and the police tell you that you have to show them ID. Don’t. They are not telling the truth.

It is this action that gives them power over you, and nothing more. Producing ID to a policy enforcer for the nation is no different than you showing ID to a policy enforcer for Walmart. If you show you’re a part of their corporation and you’re doing something against their rules, they have every right, as well as a duty, to nail you for it.

Question the authority and laws used to get you to produce ID and try not to question the integrity of the officers. If they start stating statutes and acts, question the definition of an Act. These pieces of legislation do NOT effect human beings. They only effect members of the Law Society. (Bar card holders: Lawyers, judges, baliffs, police officers (but not peace officers, very important) in short: all gov’t officials and employees)

These officers want people to be able to think for themselves. They are merely acting as a nanny because you willingly provide information that does nothing more than assert your status as a child beholden to them. Once more people learn their own power and don’t allow officers to nanny them, using their language, you will empower them to be peace officers again which should be their true purpose.

Comment by Rochester

November 25, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

Funny thing is that were the couch a bench or some other piece of outdoor “furniture” there would not have been a problem. A couch is not meant to remain outside for months at a time and the problem is it deteriorates thus turning into garbage.

I think Ian and Mikaela would have no problem with a nice decorative bench in the front yard.

Comment by AnAmazedReader

November 25, 2008 @ 8:27 pm

“To my captors”

Goodness, the narcissism, the grandiosity! What bitter torment hath our noble savior endured during his endless, excruciating stay in a minimum security prison! What slings and arrows hath he suffered at the hands of an officialdom made corrupt by all that is that is wrong-thinking, savage and venal! SUCH a hero.

W-W-Wait a minute; you mean he caved in after three days? Three Days? THREE DAYS?

So much for principles. But they sure do sound convincing when you mouth them. Isn’t that all that matters?

Comment by Zeus

November 26, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

W-W-Wait a minute; you mean he caved in after three days? Three Days? THREE DAYS?

He’s got more street cred than you do at this point. How long were YOU in for? And what was the charge, public douchery?

BOOYAH!

Comment by AnAmazedReader

November 26, 2008 @ 10:25 pm

Zeus,

When confronted with such literary eloquence as yours, one is easily tempted to simply sit back in awe. Yet once the aesthetic intoxication begins to lapse, it occurs that your mode of expression is quite common among the many arrested adolescents who form the metaphorical backbone of this site. Particularly when a situation arises that reveals the extent to which you and your academically-unaccomplished peers are truly full of shit.

Your talk-show Jesus bleats on constantly about how we must be willing to pay the price true liberty demands. The history books are replete with examples of such sacrifice; in that context, 93 days in a county jail would be mild. And yet after all that brave, vain talk, it only took three days for him to knuckle under and actually apologize to a judge whose authority he had previously said he didn’t recognize? Gosh, Zeus, what can that mean? Is your deity nothing more than a pile of words? And if He’s an empty suit, what does that say about you, and your own commitment to the cause? Is it possible that you’re “all talk” too?

Let’s face it, the question on the table isn’t how many days in jail those of us who would’ve complied with a city ordinance regarding an old couch could have withstood. The question is: if you’re going to talk the talk, shouldn’t you walk the walk? And if you don’t, what sort of credibility do you have left?

That’s OK Zeus; you can try calming your bruised feelings by spending an hour alphabetizing your collection of canned and dried foods.

Cheers,

Amazed

Comment by Zeus

November 26, 2008 @ 10:35 pm

Public douchery it is then. Thanks for clarifying.

Comment by AnAmazedReader

November 27, 2008 @ 10:58 am

Zeus (now THAT’S an ironic-yet-revealing screen name in your case), the world stands awestruck in the face of your wit and originality. It’s really something (or at least you seem to think so). All you’ve got, I guess. Anyway, since you’re linguistically-compromised, here are some handy mnemonics to help you during those many hours spent organizing your survivalist gear:

A is for “Addled”
B is for “Boeotian”
C is for “Commiserable”
D is for “Ditz”
F is for ……..

Comment by ANAMAZINGEGO

November 27, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Goodness, the narcissism, the grandiosity! When confronted with such self-aggrandizing pretentiousness as yours, one is easily tempted to simply join the ego-stroking lovefest!

Come now and let us inflate our dainty little heads with witty and original phrases like “literary eloquence”, “aesthetic intoxication” and “linguistically-compromised” from the Book of Webster.

After that we shall have tea and crumpets before visiting “the bad side of town” where we shall berate the academically-unaccomplished peasants by showing them our GPAs… written on our derrieres! Oh what a lovely time we shall have lambasting the wretches of society! The very thought makes want to giggle like a schoolgirl!

Comment by AnAmazedReader

November 27, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

My Dear Egostroker,

What a fantastic view into your psyche! The intellectual and class resentment, the illusion of being oppressed, the anger, the fetid whiff of homophobia! You are an absolute miracle of nature; somehow, you are able to get up every morning, even as you choke on the bile rising within that results from your sense of abject failure. Most people would just kill themselves.

In awe,

Amazed

Comment by ANAMAZINGEGO

November 27, 2008 @ 10:43 pm

Oh don’t sell yourself short, Amazed! You’re a MUCH better stroker of ego than I! You’ve been stroking yours all over this website!

What a fantastic view into the vast depths of your intellectual narcissism! The smug superiority, the illusion of being clever, the angry, fetid whiff of self-love!

You are the pièce de résistance of the state indoctrination system; somehow, you are able to get up every morning and, discovering you have absolutely nothing better to do with your life, you scour the internet and make asinine posts espousing your intellectual greatness.

Most such people would either be too busy on Wall Street getting a handout from those who actually produce things with their minds and labor or yelling at subordinate peons in some temple of bureaucratic excess!

Bravissimo!

Ever the Dark Mirror of Truth reflecting back at you,

-AMAZING!
(say it with flair!)

Comment by John Galt

November 28, 2008 @ 10:04 pm

Amazedreader,

Everyone has an interest when they write to this site. You have me wondering what your interest is in these discussions. There must be a reason why you don’t (dys)function like the usual troll that gives up after a day or two. What gives?

Just what stake do you have in the current power structure, those fools with an overactive lust for control over others?

You a cop/fed/gov’t employee? Paid instigator or an informer desperately hoping to incite violent speech so that you may point the finger at freedom loving people?

Show some honesty and courage instead of sniping at Free-Staters from the shadows.

Perhaps it’s just that you have a very unhealthy level of strange adoration for the state that is 100% undeserving of yours or anyone else’s love. If so then maybe you are possibly the victim of an unrequited love towards it. The state has way too much contempt for you or anyone else to actually love you back.

I can think of absolutely nothing more undignified than an obsession like that. The joke’s been entirely on you all of this time. How about that?

With Liberty,

John Galt

Comment by BigDongJohnson

November 30, 2008 @ 12:21 am

Dear Ian,

You are a pathetic drama queen. “to my captors…” seriously, get a life. Ooh, ooh, the big bad state won’t let me keep a dirty couch on my lawn! What violence. And I didn’t have a chance to question the whole world at my trial. Again, get a life. Love it or leave it loser!

My Johnson is big, urs clearly isn’t!

–
BigDongJohnson

Comment by Zeus

November 30, 2008 @ 12:30 am

Apparently the economy has gotten so bad the circus is letting the pinheads go to save money.

Nice to see they’ve been finding jobs as internet trolls though.

Comment by CasualObserver

December 2, 2008 @ 6:53 pm

I don’t check this site very often, but this conversation actually made me laugh a couple of times… I’m inclined to agree that the letter was over-dramatic, but “Public Douchery” (personally I prefer “douchebaggery”) does not even begin to describe those posts. Amazed, how many hours per day, on average, would you say you spend writing posts on internet forums? Good Lord, find something productive to do with your time.

PS: Ego, your first post absolutely cracked me up.

Comment by elkheart

December 3, 2008 @ 1:41 am

Earlier this Fall, here at Keene State College, (note: Sorry, all you anarchists, *THEY* call it “State”, ), Mr. Van Wickler gave an excellent powerpoint presentation about the “Drug Wars”, and L.E.A.P. Many students and interested members of the Public attended. As part of *ALL OUR* efforts for more peace, safety, & freedom, a new local Campus chapter of “SSDP”(Students for a Sensible Drug Policy) was formed. We are meeting Weds., Dec 3, at 9PM, in the Student Union. Interested members of the Public are welcome to attend. Look for the notice board at the foot of the stairs. ~thanks~.

Comment by elkheart

December 4, 2008 @ 11:25 pm

Again, dept. of redundant corrections, again. In Post# 77071 above, I’m sorry for seeming to imply any causal link between Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, and the formation of a KSC chapter of Students for a Sensible Drug Policy. They are independent organizations, linked coincidentally in space & time only. Jumanjville/Keene is still the town I most love to hate, & most hate to love. Being literally born on Campus can do that to ya, doncha’ know???…Hey, it’s a nativity thing, alright???*grin*…~e~…