Record Number of Liberty Activists Call WKBK’s “Talkback”!
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The city councilors voted to steal some homes this week, so liberty activists turned out in record numbers as callers to WKBK’s “Talkback”, a show hosted by two councilors, Cynthia and Paula. This is the best episode so far. Activists pack the phones and when the statists get through all they have are their usual ad hominems and whining. Cynthia is clearly shaken by so many people pointing out that she and the other councilors were stealing, however steadfastly denies it by saying that it’s not stealing because it’s the law! Listen and be amazed, then mark your calendar for 9a-12p on Saturdays to join us for another listening and calling session in the Free Keene Chat and on-the-air on the Liberty Radio Network.
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28 Comments on Record Number of Liberty Activists Call WKBK’s “Talkback”!
It appears that Cynthia doesn’t like hearing that she helped steal homes from people.
BTW, those popel that get on the phone and say “this is supposed to be about local issues”; well, taking homes away from people in keene IS a local issue, what’s the problem?
You see, these people view us as “not from here”, so we’re not discussing “local issues”. It helps them sleep better at night, or something like that.
What melt down are they talking about? Did i miss something?
Cynthia showed her formerly subdued anger at freedom loving people this morning. It bugged her to no end that the people she haphazardly mislabeled as insignifigant came out in droves to prove her wrong.
They got outnumbered for the first time and she just couldn’t handle how it felt to her. The first time I called today she cut me off mid-sentence then acted like I was still on the line a few seconds later, speaking to a caller that had already been dropped.
This, I suppose would give the illusion to the listeners that it was me or any of the other callers she dumped had actually hung up on them. She lost her cool with more than one caller BTW.
I doubt that any radio station, no matter how hard up they are for talent, would deem to keep someone as unprofessional as Cynthia Georgina in the broadcast booth much longer.
Dan
DAN STEWARD, I think the dump and talk shit about the caller while acting like the caller is still on the line is a common talk radio tactic to make the host sound like more of an expert who is right.
Do any of you know how many people from outside Keene called the show?
I enjoy listening to these clips, so thank you Ian for providing them. I feel uncomfortable calling in from Colorado, but still like to hear how they respond to callers who advocate truly small government or no government.
I thought it was odd that the one lady said “I wouldn’t even know where to start to address these financial difficulties… but forcing someone to repaint there building is something we can really sink our teeth into”. So she is admitting that the government is virtually powerless to solve any real issues, and instead prefers to just nitpick about small issues that most people do not care about.
Wow, Cynthia really lost it there. Cognitive dissonance in action. I’m sure it upsets her for people to accuse her of stealing property…has she thought about how much worse the people having their homes stolen feel? I bet it feels much, much worse.
wow, finished listening to the whole episode. They are going to have to get call screeners because I don’t see how Cynthia can deal with that every week. She is going to start hating Saturday mornings.
Great job getting the pro-liberty viewpoint out! Week after week, they are showing how bankrupt their own position is.
Actually, no. The more you call, the more people there are who might be listening – drama sells – and up goes the advertising revenue for the show you target.
LOH
I’m not sure how what you said contradicts what I said.
I’ll have to make it a point to be a local caller calling in and make my weekly call a reminder of how it IS a local issue.
The woman complaining that Ian and Mark have their own outlet for their opinions and that this one is HERS is a textbook example of they lunacy we’re up against. She does not praise FTL as the successful CREATION of Ian and Mark, but as some magical object they are fortunate enough to have. Someone should clue her in that FTL is HER outlet too, should she choose to utilize it.
The question I have for Cynthia, would she group all similar opinions together and preclude them participating in the show? I think I’ll call in next week and give my name before I begin. Not because it “makes me feel important”, it’s just fucking polite.
John Delano:
I was one caller who called out of the area, specifically my home state of Michigan. I’m a Free Stater who’s planning on moving to the Keene area in a couple of years.
Cynthia and Paula’s demeanor with me on the phone was atrocious. The first impression I got from them was, “We don’t like you Free Staters calling into our show. Who cares what you think! We don’t wanna hear what you have to say. Yada, yada, yada…” That was screaming out of them, and you could read that perfectly.
The reason I called into the show was to stick up for my fellow Free Staters who were being unfairly attacked for calling into the show, considering the attacks leveled at them were due to the activists’ complaints about the Keene City Council voting to steal people’s homes because people didn’t pay their property taxes. Why they didn’t pay those taxes is irrelevant, even though it could be that they either didn’t want to pay them or couldn’t afford to pay them. Either way, they didn’t pay, and they were being forced out of their homes by the city bureaucrats. It’s my understanding that many of those people who didn’t pay ended up ponying up those taxes at the last minute. And that happened a day after the city council voted to steal those homes.
Anyway, I called in to complain about how my fellow activists there were being censored for calling into the show, considering a number of listeners were complaining about the Free Staters’ calls and urged Cynthia and Paula to do something about them. Many of them hate the freedom message, and they want us to go away, because they love the state and they love to use the state to commit theft, even if it’s done for the good of society. They want Talkback to be a show about the love of statism, and they want no dissension from any caller, especially if the caller is right.
I pointed out that I heard the claims that Free Staters were disruptive at the city council meetings and how it was unfair of some of the callers were making us out to be like we’re evil and all anarchists. I even told her that it was unfair to lump all Free Staters in because we have the same viewpoint. Then Paula Phillips, Cynthia’s co-host, cut me off, trying to misdirect me at that point in the chat by asking me what my home state of Michigan was like and what my economy there was like. I thought the entire time, “What does that have to do with what I’m calling about? What’s your point?”. I didn’t say that to her, and I wish I had, but I ended up playing along to see where she was going with it. After we talked about that, I got back on point with regards to the statist callers’ complaints, and Paula cut me off again saying, “That’s the callers’ opinion; that’s not necessarily my opinion.”
Wait a second, Paula, didn’t you and Cynthia agree with the callers who expressed that opinion? You share those callers’ views, yet you say “that’s not necessarily [your] opinion”? What a lying hypocrite!
Then I was dropped from the show. Paula cut me off twice, and, although a part of me is pissed that it hapened, I’m glad it did because it shows how hypocritical, lying, and unprofessional these two women are on talk radio.
To be honest, Cynthia Georgina and Paula Phillips have no business being on a talk radio show if they can’t handle the Free Stater complaints while handling their statist caller complaints. They really suck at hosting that show, and they don’t have what it takes to host a talk radio show on a radio station’s airwaves.
That’s my opinion though. And that’s my story.
Actually, children, I think Cynthia “lost it” when she got tired of hearing ad hominem, tendentious, glib accusation about things like “stealing” and “violence”. You know, the usual greatest hits to which “Free” Staters wax onanistic. It really is like the dynamic between a 3 year-old boy and his Mommy; the 3 year-old keeps on provoking Mommy to get a reaction, Mommy finally reacts, and said 3 year-old derives some sort of perverse satisfaction from it. For evidence, you need look no further than the utter giddiness of so many of the posts on this thread. Yes, little boys, you made your bones: you got Mommy mad.
Do any of you have any perspective at all on how pathetic this is? We are talking about a once-a-week local call-in show on a tiny (1000 watts!), one-lung radio station. And yet your participation in it makes you feel somehow important. Wow.
AAR,
How is pointing out that taking someone’s house is theft “ad hominem”? Listening to the show, I don’t recall anyone using any ad hominem attacks (from either side).
How is it a “glib” accusation to note that when you take something that isn’t yours, it’s stealing? Rather than glib, it seems to be common sense to me.
Oh, there was at least one. You don’t remember the “It’s basically a high school early college mentality … these are basically people who have not accomplished anything in their lives … etc.” guy? Since, as we all know, once you accomplish something you realize stealing is ok.
I’m afraid that guy’s way overdrawn on his intellectual accounts, and the collection agency’s coming ’round — I think he declared chapter 11 on the air 
.
Actually, children, I think Cynthia “lost it” when she got tired of hearing ad hominem, tendentious, glib accusation about things like “stealing” and “violence”. You know, the usual greatest hits to which “Free” Staters wax onanistic. It really is like the dynamic between a 3 year-old boy and his Mommy; the 3 year-old keeps on provoking Mommy to get a reaction, Mommy finally reacts, and said 3 year-old derives some sort of perverse satisfaction from it. For evidence, you need look no further than the utter giddiness of so many of the posts on this thread. Yes, little boys, you made your bones: you got Mommy mad.
Says the ad hominem spewing hypocrite.
Considering we’ve all learned and embraced the Golden Rule taught in most kindergarten classes and statists like yourself refuse to do the same, I’d say our mental and societal progression is leaps and bounds beyond your own. If we’re children, you’re still infants.
In Other Words: Na-Na A-Boo-Boo.
The Golden Rule (just in case you’re unaware — which is highly likely) is also known as the “Ethic of Reciprocity” and it means “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” To simplify, it means no hitting people or taking things that don’t belong to you.
Do any of you have any perspective at all on how pathetic this is?
What, that you’d go to all this trouble to post ignorant statist ad hominem attacks in post after post all the while avoiding addressing the philosophical points we make? Yes, I’d say that’s indubitably pathetic.
We are talking about a once-a-week local call-in show on a tiny (1000 watts!), one-lung radio station.
So if there was a similar show on a similar station spewing ignorant hate based on race or gender and advocating violence on peaceful people, that would be okay too? If that seems like an apples and oranges comparison to you, congratulations: You are entirely devoid of any understanding of the philosophy of liberty whatsoever.
And yet your participation in it makes you feel somehow important. Wow.
You mean like your participation (and I use that term loosely) here makes you feel? Yeah. That’s “wow”, all right.
Goodness, it’s so easy to strike a nerve with you folks. Why all the shame-evinced anger? Ah, yes; because on a certain level, you know that your adolescent rage has had absolutely no significant effect. The vast majority of Keene’s citizens consider you to be whack-jobs, and your presence hasn’t changed our city or state governments in the slightest. You follow the government’s rules and laws dozens of times a day, day in and day out. Strangled by your intellectual and temperamental impotence, and clearly not feeling good about it. You know you’re at a complete dead-end, but like the tantrum-seized child holding his breath, you can’t let go of it. The whole drama simply means too much to you; your ego would shatter without it. So you sip your thin, compensatory gruel and bark out wild generalizations and exaggerations that make less addled people look over and say: “My, that’s really bizarre. And sad”. Which just starts the cycle over for you again.
On the other hand, you are certainly creating the greatest monument to rhetorical onanism seen in these parts for a long, long time. Congratulations(?)
To ‘AnAmazedReader’:
I think you demonstrate in your posts exactly the problem the Free Staters are pointing out:
“Actually, children, I think Cynthia “lost it” when she got tired of hearing ad hominem, tendentious, glib accusation about things like “stealing” and “violence”.
AnAmazedReader, please answer this question, does the government use violence against people who disobey them, even if they have done no actual harm to anyone?
Further, your characterization of us as ‘children’ really exposes your beliefs about the state. Thomas Jefferson, someone who is revered by liberty advocates for what he wrote, (though not so much for what he did), penned the famous words in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal” and are endowed with “inalienable rights”. Please tell the readers of this blog how that idea is consistent with your view that
“It really is like the dynamic between a 3 year-old boy and his Mommy; the 3 year-old keeps on provoking Mommy to get a reaction, Mommy finally reacts, and said 3 year-old derives some sort of perverse satisfaction from it.”
I don’t want to live in a society that thinks the government is their ‘mommy’ and we are but children to be ordered about and punished for disobedience. Don’t we at least have the pretense that the government is our ‘servant’ and the source of political power is ‘we, the people’? The problem seems to be that people who hold views like yours are inconsistent. You accuse us of having ‘tantrums’ but then post emotional rantings without ever addressing the substance of our arguments, which is that it is wrong to initiate force upon a peaceful person who has harmed no one and upon whom you cannot prove an obligation to obey.
Either you advocate an orderly, just society or you advocate theft and violence by the strong and powerful; you can’t have it both ways, that’s really bizarre.
AnAmazedReader: Your ignorant embrace of state coercion and violence is perfect for recruiting new Free Staters to the cause and, specifically, convincing them to choose Keene rather than Nashua, Manchester, Portsmouth or elsewhere.
In every post you evince the ineffectiveness of Free Staters and yet, it is the actions and beliefs of the Free Staters (most of which you don’t comprehend) that drive you to post your incendiary drivel. I’d call that a effective enough.
Please do keep up the good work. There will be dozens and dozens of us swarming the hillsides before you know it. Summer is going to be fantastic.
Zeus (quite the compensatory nickname you’ve adopted there, eh little guy?),
“Your ignorant embrace of state coercion and violence is perfect for recruiting new Free Staters to the cause and, specifically, convincing them to choose Keene rather than Nashua, Manchester, Portsmouth or elsewhere.”
Wow, all with my little postings? Actually, probably not; you’re just imagining things again. Your paragraph is simply another one of your self-serving constructions that allow you to rant meaningless linguistic totems like “coercion” and “violence” in a reflexive Tourette’s-like stream. A necessary outlet for all of your frustration and pent-up rage, no doubt. Failure must be a bitch, particularly in those moments when the denial filter is weak.
“In every post you evince the ineffectiveness of Free Staters and yet, it is the actions and beliefs of the Free Staters (most of which you don’t comprehend) that drive you to post your incendiary drivel. I’d call that a effective enough.”
Yes, you would call it effective enough, because this is the center of your tiny world. You certainly haven’t had any tangible effect on the real world that exists outside this odd version of Dungeons and Dragons of which you and your compatriots are so enamored (by the way, “Free Staters”? What’s with the label? Are you admitting that you are a group? I thought there were “no groups”, only “individuals”). Although perhaps you’re right; I can’t comprehend your actions and beliefs. After all, anyone reading your posts soon realizes that they have entered an intellectual realm so dense and inscrutable as to make the intricacies of the human genome seem like child’s play. You truly are that brilliant. Which should prevent you from whining as much as you do when someone calls you on your bullshit and the way you fling it at people. But you won’t, because you can’t; you’re a bit of a rage-a-holic, little Zeus.
“Please do keep up the good work. There will be dozens and dozens of us swarming the hillsides before you know it. Summer is going to be fantastic.”
I haven’t the slightest doubt that you’ll assess this summer as being fantastic, no matter what actually happens. For example, Sir Ian of Couch goes through months of vain parading about the stand he is making for what he calls liberty, and then pays his fine and apologizes to a judge after less than 48 hours in jail. Yet that was a victory, a great moment for the cause. You’re trapped in a brittle quasi-theological bubble that disdains reality. The whole construct – the buzz words, the worn-out catch phrases, the exaggerated analogies – exists to protect a wounded ego (this takes no great insight; you’re terribly obvious and transparent, Zeusy). You’ll do whatever you need to do to keep the bubble intact; no matter what happens, it’ll all be good, because you so desperately need to believe it’s so. Just like the 25% of the American public that believes George W. Bush was a great President. It’s an old, sad song.
Zeus (quite the compensatory nickname you’ve adopted there, eh little guy?),
Were you to see or hear me, you would think otherwise. Nice subtle jab at the size of my penis. Do you think about that often?
Your paragraph is simply another one of your self-serving constructions that allow you to rant meaningless linguistic totems like “coercion” and “violence” in a reflexive Tourette’s-like stream.
Says the man who refuses to challenge us on our philosophy and instead sinks to the level of disparaging the size our penises.
Coercion and violence are only “meaningless liguistic totems” to a man incapable of comprehending or discussing the most simple of philosophies.
A necessary outlet for all of your frustration and pent-up rage, no doubt.
Rage? Yes, I am often outraged at immoral statists like yourself who believe theft, fraud and violence are fine things so long as they are written down on paper and called The Law. I have nothing but contempt for your actions and unashamed support for the philosophy of “Might Makes Right”. You are a reprehensible and despicable parasite, feeding on the misery you cause others.
Failure must be a bitch, particularly in those moments when the denial filter is weak.
You sound like an expert on it.
Yes, you would call it effective enough, because this is the center of your tiny world. You certainly haven’t had any tangible effect on the real world that exists outside this odd version of Dungeons and Dragons of which you and your compatriots are so enamored
Keep chanting it like a mantra if it helps to soothe your fragile ego and your desperate need for us to fail.
(by the way, “Free Staters”? What’s with the label? Are you admitting that you are a group? I thought there were “no groups”, only “individuals”).
Groups are simply abstract mental collections of individuals. Much like the “solar system” is simply an abstract description used to describe various planets that have the sun’s gravity in common, the one thing that ties all Free Staters together is an agreement to move to New Hampshire and actively work toward creating a government that at it’s very maximum, exists only to protect the life, liberty and property of the people.
How they go about that (or beyond it) is up to each individual. Some choose politics, some choose civil disobedience and still others choose educational outreach. Some are anarchists, some are minarchists, some are voluntaryists and others are free marketeers.
Of course, I’m not sure what the point of asking the question is since a philosophy of nonaggression, self-responsibility and true liberty is not only entirely lost on you, but utterly abhorrent.
Although perhaps you’re right; I can’t comprehend your actions and beliefs. After all, anyone reading your posts soon realizes that they have entered an intellectual realm so dense and inscrutable as to make the intricacies of the human genome seem like child’s play.
Yes, the Golden Rule is very tough to comprehend. For some people, it takes all the way until First Grade to really get a good grasp on its complexities.
You truly are that brilliant. Which should prevent you from whining as much as you do when someone calls you on your bullshit and the way you fling it at people. But you won’t, because you can’t; you’re a bit of a rage-a-holic, little Zeus.
Call us on our bullshit? You’ve done nothing of the sort. You haven’t once challenged us on our beliefs or engaged us in serious philosophical discussion. You don’t even know the first thing about the philosophy of liberty, only that you resent us calling your favorite statist radio show on their bullshit and outing them for what they are: Supporters of violence and theft.
I haven’t the slightest doubt that you’ll assess this summer as being fantastic, no matter what actually happens.
And here you subtly cast aspersions, claiming us to be liars. Fortunately, there exists a thing called history and historical precedent has shown that more and more people are attending our events each year and more are moving every week to New Hampshire on a much more rapid pace than previous years. You can hide under the covers and deny it all you want but that won’t change reality.
For example, Sir Ian of Couch goes through months of vain parading about the stand he is making for what he calls liberty, and then pays his fine and apologizes to a judge after less than 48 hours in jail. Yet that was a victory, a great moment for the cause.
Like all collectivists, you take the actions of one person and try to hold responsible hundreds of individuals who had nothing to do with it.
You’re trapped in a brittle quasi-theological bubble that disdains reality. The whole construct – the buzz words, the worn-out catch phrases, the exaggerated analogies – exists to protect a wounded ego (this takes no great insight; you’re terribly obvious and transparent, Zeusy).
Sounds like you’re describing yourself, Amazey. Since you don’t seem to comprehend the first thing about us, maybe you’re projecting your subconcious beliefs about yourself onto us?
You’ll do whatever you need to do to keep the bubble intact; no matter what happens, it’ll all be good, because you so desperately need to believe it’s so.
Yep, that’s some heavy duty projecting right there.
Just like the 25% of the American public that believes George W. Bush was a great President. It’s an old, sad song.
I would have imagined you’d be one of them but it sounds like you’ve embraced the other side of the statist coin.
As if it makes a difference.
In the end, government gets bigger, more expensive and more intrusive. Freedoms decline in the name of “security” or “safety”. And you become more and more a slave.
And government is run almost entirely by Parasites, those who suck the life out of the Producers, the people who provide useful services and products and labor to the world for fair and honest compensation.
“Let’s start a war and make the taxpayers pay for it!”, says one.
“I want to research the possibility of a farm co-op being successful! The taxpayers can pay for it too!”, says another.
“But won’t they get sick of you nickel and diming them for things they don’t want?”, says a page.
The politicians laugh. “Ha! They can’t do anything about it.”, says one. “I’ll just blame the other side of the aisle, make promises of reducing taxes or helping the poor and the fools will re-elect me again next year!”
“And if they don’t pick him, they’ll pick me!”, says the man from across the aisle. “Either way, we get to live large on their dime and they’ll never, ever be able to stop us.”
“After all, what’re they gonna do… say no?”.
The room erupts with laughter.
Actually, AnAmazedReader the couch incident was a success even though I did supplicate myself in order to be released from jail.
Partially as a result of the couch situation, the Keene area became a hotter destination for early movers and the activist population has tripled since, with more on the way.
Say, are you one of the callers to Talkback? Your demeanor here is very similar to a repeat caller to their show. Are you the Dartmouth guy?
See, I figured him for the Dartmouth guy too. Same sense of smug intellectual superiority.
I notice that there’s no response to my post…..
Obonosis: That’s because your post is logical, to the point and philosophically sound. No way he’s going to touch that with a ten-foot pole. He’d rather wax poetic about my penis and talk about how much he hopes we fail so he can continue to suckle on the teat of government while they do the actual dirty work of destroying lives and stealing things.
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