The City of Keene’s Hall of Shame

December 14, 2009 by Sam Dodson
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The Homeless – They’re easy to marginalize and blame for their situation. With the economy in a tailspin, the dollar facing hyperinflation, the FDIC billions in the hole, a commercial real estate bubble ready to pop, lending restrictions tightening, Obama spending money like the Weimar Republic, and over 2,000 banks expected to fail next year, unfortunately many more may end up joining them.

It is said the compassion of a society can be measured in the way the poorest and most misfortunate are treated. So after regulating, licensing, and taxing this community out of prosperity, now this unfortunate element of society; this unintended consequence; stands as a black mark the city’s bureaucrats are working to erase. Take an honest look at how government helps the poor who don’t go along with the welfare program:

(Video for Part 2 below)

I’m sure Dale Pregent, Mayor would love to hear your thoughts on this issue:

(603) 357-9805
mayor@ci.keene.nh.us

bil

Is this the regular military coup,or a differant military altogether? While I am in favor of the overthrow of the present regime[no,not the Obama presidency,the entire system]I was not aware of any eminent military coup,and have been preparing to go it alone.

As for the homeless/welfare system just being a job bank for government stooges,yes,it certainly is.It has become a profitable industry for some. —bil
libertydrew

to those who are focasing on the beer and cigs stfu they have that freedom whats wrong with that and their only homeless because the gov says they are we may soon all be between the gov bankruping everybody and the soon to be fake food shortage and all the land their about to steal you could be next they don't need gov help what they need is to learn homesteading skills and be able to build a proper home like a log cabin but we all know the gov wont allow that that would be to good for them they should allow them to raise chicken an rabbits maybe get some goats grow a proper garden build a root cellar and learn safe foraging technics we all should know how to survive well off the land maybe the community can come together and start to permaculture the land for everyone to use i know the gov wont allow this but how will they stop people from making seedballs and just start tossing them around NH is the free state right? don't ask do and to all the activist out there how about instead of getting arrested run for office and change the laws just a thought yeah you might have to play by their rules for a little wile but if you can get the right positions filled you can change the rules we as a country need to stop thinking of only ourselves and start looking out for each other or we are all doomed
libertydrew

ps srry about no punc was a little peved by sum of the freedom haters. but feel better now:) here are some extras …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
PaulO

<q cite="">to all the activist out there how about instead of getting arrested run for office and change the laws</q>

Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win. Ian attempted to run for Mayor. People that come to this website try different approaches to gain liberty. So far, it would appear civil disobedience has had the biggest effect. How many people were smoking marijuana during the 420 events? Although there were arrests made, I'd say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected. And Rich actually tasted a little bit of liberty, as did many of the others at the events.

Another example: A large group went to a rally at the statehouse last winter in support of the sovereignty bill. When it didn't pass, a few of the supporters boo'd the legislators. Some of the crowd were open carrying guns. The reward for this attempt to work within the system is now guns are not allowed at the state house. That attempt to work within the system has actually restricted liberty.

Now, I'm not going to say, "Don't try to work within the system." I think everyone should try to do whatever they think is best as the motivation and energy will come easier if you're following what you believe in. And who knows, maybe it is possible to get more people elected to the state house and really fight those attempting to curb the liberties of the people of New Hampshire.
libertydrew

"Nick Ryder ran for City Council. He did not win.""I’d say the overall time investment by Rich Paul in courts/jail will be less than Nick spent trying to get elected.

ty for responding. this is my point all these people show up in support of smoking pot which is good because #1 it's ridiculous to ban nature

#2 it's only being used to enslave us

and the list can go on ,but why when you have a chance to do it right no one has the time.if we want change we are going to have to work hard at it. the powers that be are deadly serius about enslaving us,and have billions of dollor's to do it.now you guy's in keen have an exellent oppertunity to make a change and it's not just the mayor's office that needs to be ran for. how about running for sheriff that is the most powerfull possision which require's a clean record i'm sure.and buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in town. yes you should have the right to smoke weed,but there are those that dont want the recless behavior that comes with it.this just give the enslaver's more power.that energey would be more effective getting more people with clean records elected. that is the only way change is gonna happen. these people in power now don't care how many people get put in jail it's all money to them. prisons get paid on how many beds are filled. and i don't mean to offend but we all need to pull are heads out of our a**'s and understand the enemy.we are faceing the most greedy corrupt people on the planet who have unlimited resource's. it cant be done buy sitting in a park smokin weed they need to be removed and laws changed term limits given and corperate influance removed ond outlawed.
PaulO

Yes, we agree on what outcome we want. The question is, what is the easiest way to get it? I honestly do not know.

I do know it appears to be extremely difficult to get elected to any office in Keene running on a liberty campaign. It is a left-leaning city. The representatives from this district tend to be Democrats who look to the government for solutions. Nick running for city council isn't the first to try. I hope he'll try again and get more success as he gets gains name recognition. My point is: there are people trying to get elected to offices in Keene right now.

If I could snap my fingers and get folks elected to city positions, I would. If I could snap my fingers a second time and have those elected remove draconian measures, I would. The problem is, it's not that easy to get elected nor to actually do anything once you're in office. I personally don't think it is impossible, but I can understand why people might think so. It takes more than a clean record. Much, much more. At a minimum, I would say it takes years of building name recognition within the town and getting people to know who you are. Unless you are wealthy (or a fabulous fundraiser) and can afford to speed up that process.

People do civil disobedience for a lot of different reasons. Some do it in hopes of recruiting more liberty activists. Some do it to draw public attention to an issue and/or the gun in the room. From those I've talked to, I'd say most do it for reasons of integrity as they simply view much of the taxation and restrictions as immoral.

If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to work within the system, I'd recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect.

Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law. You know how many activists it took to do the 420 events? Two. It started with just two people but garnered a lot of public support. How much good could two people have done in the same amount of time trying to work within the system?

<blockquote cite="">buy just hanging out smokin pot in public is not going to win the respect of the other freedom loving citezens in townI completely disagree. It may not win the support of many older voters or government workers, but it definitely wins the support of young, freedom-loving individuals. Most of the people involved knew nothing of FreeKeene.com but they do love freedom.

Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He's selected by a city official.
libertydrew

–"Some people like yourself say those at the 420 events should use that energy to try and change the system without breaking the law."–

srry if i gave the impression i was against the 420 event ,i'm not.my point is why cant that event be use to better organize to get one of your own elected.maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker's in a positive manor. i don't claim to know the answer.just really tryin to give something to think about.

–"Oh, and the sheriff position is not elected. He’s selected by a city official."–

that's weird because most county's in u.s. this is an elected position if not run for the seat that hire's the sheriff i know it's not easy if it where we would be a free country:)

–"If you are looking to be surrounded by those trying to work within the system, I’d recommend checking out the Concord/Manchester area. Of course anyone is welcome in Keene, just make sure you know what to expect. "–

i really don't know how i'm supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker's

anyway keep up the good work

drew
PaulO

<blockquote cite="">maybe do like the open carry clean up,except have it open smoke clean up or somethin positive like that it might at least make the cops feel bad about arresting people wile the rest of the community see toker’s in a positive manor
Ah, yes, I misunderstood. My apologies. I do like this idea. Maybe someone (or you!) can start this initiative.

<blockquote cite="">i really don’t know how i’m supposed to take this comment. if i come off offensive in anyway i apologize i just thought free people where free thinker’s
I misunderstood where you were coming from. Sorry.
theKINGofKEENE

Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position…Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote…
libertydrew

"Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position…Still, considering that only about 10% of voters actually bother to vote…"

lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff
PaulO

[blockquote]Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position[/blockquote]My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0
[blockquote]lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff [/blockquote]

Sounds like job for someone like yourself!
PaulO

Trying this again.

Sorry, PAULO, in NH, County Sheriff is an elected position

My mistake, was confusing it with Chief of Police: http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=2151.0

lol then it should be easier to get some one elected. who wants to be sheriff

Sounds like job for someone like yourself!
libertydrew

lol maybe when i move there and start meeting people i will. i think you might have had to be a resident for at least a year though. some free stater must be interested. it's the most powerful position. get that and the chief has to obey.:) even the mayor cant tell you what to do. the constitution is your only law you have to obey.