Three Free Staters arrested in three days. Russell Kanning, Jim Johnson, and now Big Mike.
This morning Manchester cops acting on a piece of paper from Nashua PD threatened to break down a door, then pointed guns at the peaceful occupants inside Big Mike’s home as they arrested him on “disorderly conduct” allegedly from the 420 crackdown weeks ago in Nashua. Subscribe to Porc 411s for the latest on all three activists, and visit the Free Keene Forum for discussion.
Here are the raw videos that Joe in Manchester was able to take as the MPD agents kidnap Big Mike. Part 1 is here and here’s the more interesting Part 2:
According to a reliable source, the police in NH can enforce warrants outside their “jurisdiction”, so a warrant from Nashua can be enforced by Nashua PD traveling to another county or city and can also be enforced by whatever the local PD is, or the staties. In short, they can get you anywhere you are, no matter the politically designated land mass. It is currently unknown how many others will be arrested. I’m awaiting a call back from Raymond McDannell, a lieutenant in the Nashua Police Department and their media liaison.
What a bunch of violent scumbaggery. Mike didn't do anything but say things they didn't approve of. He certainly did not disrupt business, nor was there a complainant — most importantly, this is weeks later, so an arrest is utterly unwarranted anyway. This is political, plain and simple, and the NPD should be ashamed of their behavior.
Certainly this had nothing to do with protecting persons or property.
If they wish to utterly lose all popular respect, or support, they are doing exactly the right thing.
They don't care what we think because they don't have to. Their cash and orders all come from fedgov & DC. Your "local" police are a federal occupation army and there's no accountability and nothing that can be done about them until structural political change occurs, if it ever does.
They care what people think. If they don't, it's incredibly foolish of them.
I think this is an appropriate time to refuse to process, or go on a hunger strike, if someone wants to take that step. I think these things should only be done on cut and dried cases, where the abuse is obvious.
Obviously it's easy for me to say, and what a person is willing to risk is up to them. I'm just saying I think it would be tactically effective, to draw attention to this.
[Art.] 8. [Accountability of Magistrates and Officers; Public’s Right to Know.] All power residing originally in, and being derived from, the people, all the magistrates and officers of government are their substitutes and agents, and at all times accountable to them. Government, therefore, should be open, accessible, accountable and responsive. To that end, the public’s right of access to governmental proceedings and records shall not be unreasonably restricted.
NH Constitution, Bill of Rights
Kinda like Nazis
Naw, let's not be hyperbolic. It's wrong, and an abuse of power, absolutely, but unless they're planning to gas Mike, they're not Nazis.
No, Paul, they are not Nazis. They are cops…often, cops are worse.
Cops take orders from those in power or angling to take power. Round-ups of political opponents is serious business. It's also criminal behavior, to put it mildly.
The Gulags of New Hampshire are filling up this weekend. This is what happens when you don't OBEY the masters wishes.
Cops are not worse than nazis, not even especially bad cops. Yes, it's serious business, and yes, it's criminal behavior, but last I checked they are not gassing millions of people, nor will these political prisoners be executed. Again, reality is bad enough, let's not use hyperbola.
Paul, let me ask you one simple question. If you are being "gassed" do you think your last thoughts will be along the lines of "well, at least they only are gassing me" or do you think you'll be thinking "dammit, why do they have to gas me?" Murder is bad Paul, killing, looting, raping, pillaging, all bad. Whether the victims are one at a time or in holocaust numbers, all bad. Ask the World War 2 era Soviet people (course, you'd have to dig 'em up) if they were gassed. Hell no, but 26 MILLION got dead in World… Read more »
We were comparing the actions of these cops, in the video, with the actions of nazis. These cops have kidnapped innocent people. They have not murdered them. Therefore, they're not as bad as nazis.
And, I firmly disagree with the soldier/cop comparison. Watch the wikileaks video and tell me that's anything but evil. US soldiers have not been used significantly for anything defensive for at least 60 years.
Individuals should be judged on their own actions. What these cops did is evil, abusive, and corrupt, but it's nothing close to Nazism.
Check this out, Paul.
"The Gestapo — Geheime Staatspolizei, Secret State Police, was the official secret police of Nazi Germany.
Secret police forces are associated with totalitarian regimes, as they are, by definition, used to support the political power of an individual government or regime rather than upholding the common rule of law."
Look at that — defenders of the regime! A perfect match..
Paul, WW2 was not a movie. Despite the Hollywood version, 26 million Soviet people got dead. 6 million gassed vs. 26. Which is more? It's not a question of were Jewish people targeted or were Nazis bad. Hell yeah, on both counts. But when one demonizes like Hollywood and the Tube makes it out, well, some things are neglected. I'm still waiting for the blockbuster showing how the Soviet people kicked the shit out of the Nazis. It was them you know. It wasn't the US, the UK…and it sure as shit wasn't Tom Hanks. It was the Soviet people.… Read more »
I'm not stuck on numbers. The point is, the men in the video did not murder anyone, as the Nazis did. Kidnapping is not murder. It's that simple.
Wow. I almost typed that I couldn't believe this was happening but then again, it is 2010 in police state usa. Just got up to speed from Smeg – redic. My thoughts/support are with y'all.
Paul, the man on the video of the one home raid knows he's on video. Cops kill far more citizens than citizens kill cops. Why is it cops hold the big funerals, the ones with the bagpipes, the ones which block traffic wherever I've lived. They do it repeatedly. They do it whenever (which is RARE) one of them catches some fatal bullet or whatever. And they do it on my dime. I'm the one stuck in traffic who could care less about one of them versus the number they slaughter. There's a reason many of us call them pigs.… Read more »
It is starting to look just like East Germany. I know…. Trust me, I know!
John, I agree with you. I'm just saying, they're not Nazis. To use that term will make listeners discredit your valid points.
The men that checked the papers, put signs in windows, that handed out arm bands, that evicted, that enslaved, that rounded up and documented, that tatooed, that seperated families and forced people in train cars: were not the same men that gassed and shot the people that were sent in front of them.
But the dead people got there by a bunch of men just doing their job.
Cops are just doing their job.
Back on 4-2-10 I offered an opinion and warning that the courts/judges were not to be trifled with in Nashua. Well, I guess I understated it. Is it to far fetched to think that the courts and the police are together targeting those that may disrupt the City together? Arrest them, trump up whatever charge you want – get them in front of a judge that will find whatever ruling he wants – contempt is a good coverall – to get them in jail. This is not Keene here people. Different rules, no tolerance and a real game of hardball.… Read more »
Oh, let me add….Paul is right…..Nazism was wrong, this statism is wrong too.
But you are comparing firecrackers with atomic bombs and calling them both explosive. You will lose support if you keep throwin gout the Nazi thing too much.
Maybe just use the blanket term…fascism.
Re: Kdus
Yep, the excuse is the same. But, the evil is not as severe.
PAUL, you're a fucking NAZI, OK? I actually do agree with you in a purely acedemic sense, but remember, what were the Nazis called during 1900 – 1920???…*CHILDREN*!…Paul, the worst Nazi ever, was a helpless little baby once upon a time…These cops are Nazis, Paul, that's all there is to it. *COPS ARE NAZIS*…The Jewish lobby/Zionists have watered down Nazism, anyways…"Never Again"? What a fucking joke! *IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN*!…&, COPS ARE NAZIS!…so, just deal with it, Paul.
Comment by itsbigtimenow April 19, 2010 @ 6:37 am Back on 4-2-10 I offered an opinion and warning that the courts/judges were not to be trifled with in Nashua. Well, I guess I understated it. Is it to far fetched to think that the courts and the police are together targeting those that may disrupt the City together? Arrest them, trump up whatever charge you want – get them in front of a judge that will find whatever ruling he wants – contempt is a good coverall – to get them in jail. This is not Keene here people. Different… Read more »