Mastrophobes Outraged Over Topless Tuesdays
Four local women decided to go topless for this week’s Topless Tuesday, and there has been much outrage. It’s sad how intolerant people are of the human body and how repressed they are, still, by the puritanical past of this country. It’s also sad, how inconsistent they are – if men can go topless, why not women? If you have a problem with female toplessness, it’s all in your head. Humans are beautiful creatures, and should not be ashamed of themselves. This situation continues to develop, as Topless Tuesdays is intended to continue all summer long thanks to the heroic ladies who are standing up for equality! If you are offended by this event, you need to look inside yourself for the problem. This is about freedom and equality.
UPDATE: The picture in this post was taken by an anonymous photographer who sent us this censored version. I’m attempting to get the uncensored original, but I found it interesting the photographer censored ALL the nipples, including the males. Finally, in case you didn’t google it, Mastrophobia is fear of breasts.
Here’s the Sentinel story in full, but please click to read it on their site until they put it behind the paywall. As usual, the comments section is full of vitriol, ignorance, intolerance, and anger. Let them know how YOU feel. Here’s the article from the Keene Sentinel’s Phil Bantz:
Douglas Foster got an eyeful during his ride home from Keene Middle School on Tuesday afternoon.
Looking through a school bus window, the 12-year-old saw topless women standing in Central Square.
“My son came home and said, ‘Mom, have you seen what’s going on downtown?’ ” said Erin Foster, a Keene resident. “He said there were women downtown who have their tops off. I actually didn’t believe him. I had to see for myself.”
Foster rushed downtown in her car and, sure enough, there they were: women baring their breasts in public.
“I was irate,” Foster said. “My son can’t go into a store and buy a pornographic magazine, yet he can hop on his bike and go downtown.”
This was the second installment of a demonstration dubbed “Topless Tuesdays.” Many of the participants are affiliated with the Free State Project or an offshoot group called Free Keene.
After confirming her son’s report, Foster approached a city police officer who was patrolling the area and asked why the topless women weren’t being arrested.
“He told me breasts are not genitalia,” she said.
Going topless in Keene, and many other municipalities in the state, is not a crime.
An 18-year-old Free State Project member, Cassidy Nicosia, proved that point last August, when she strolled through downtown Keene topless and with a gun holstered to her hip.
Nicosia was arrested and charged with indecent exposure and lewdness, but prosecutors dropped the charges.
Under New Hampshire law, a person can be charged with indecent exposure and lewdness only if he or she exposes genitals, has sex in public, or performs any other “act of gross lewdness … likely to cause affront or alarm.”
However, towns and cities may enact ordinances that prohibit women from going topless in public. Keene has no such ordinance, but Foster is planning to change that if “Topless Tuesdays” continue.
After speaking with the city officer, Foster said she collected about 45 signatures from other residents who were walking downtown and decided they wanted to put an end to the topless demonstrations.
Douglas helped her gather signatures for a petition to enact a city ordinance banning the baring of breasts in public, Foster said. Douglas was worried that his 6-year-old brother would also be exposed to the situation, she said.
Foster said she supports the women’s right to demonstrate and go topless. She just doesn’t want it happening when her children are around.
“My biggest issue is that they were doing it when middle school let out,” she said. “I could respect what they’re doing, but they need to respect my family.”
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73 Comments on Mastrophobes Outraged Over Topless Tuesdays
Why is it when people censor photos they can’t be artistic about it. Like tulips for the women and carnations for the men….always just little dots and stuff…..
Beautiful people too. I mean that seriously, not sarcastically.
Humans are beautiful creatures. How long must we wait for Pants-Free Fridays?
We’ve definitely got our work cut out for us. I can’t wait to get to New Hampshire. We really need to reach 20,000 particiants ASAP so we can get some more reinforcements.
Pants free fridays? Hahaha. Oh, these liberty activists have balls. I can’t wait to get there. You’re my people.
This is so stupid and wrong. I’m all for personal liberty and freedom but exposing yourself is not right. There is such thing as absolute right and absolute wrong. This is an example of wrong. You are bringing shame to the movement with this smut.
Nice… The young girl on the far left next to Ricahrd Paul is ONLY 16!!!!!!
Vincent, what should be done about it? Should we have a War On Breasts?
When I lived in Germany, there were naked female breasts on billboards, television commercials and public pools. Nobody gave a flying FUCK!
To the REAL liberty lovers out there, you guys need to act quick to figure out exactly what you want, because the anti-freedom forces are mobilizing. If we don’t tell them what we want we’ll never get it. And as far as I am concerned, this seems like a battle of the commons.
It’s not just a 420 celebration anymore. Those were attempts to repeal bad legislation. But pistols and breasts are completely legal, for now, so exercising those rights in public cannot be the means to an end, they are the end in themselves. UNLESS the end is to privatize the park. And that, I believe, should be the mantra. If you don’t like it, PRIVATIZE IT. So, I think we need to be making the point loud and clear, privatize the downtown Keene central park. Then we need to figure out exactly how to privatize it, highest bidder, homesteading, what? If we don’t do that we are wasting a perfectly good opportunity to privatize that park.
@vincent: You seem to think the customs of your tribe are laws of nature. Get over it.
@seth: there are things afoot in that direction. I am hoping to find an activist to start selling soda in the square from noon to 4:20. There is somebody else who may set up a jewellery booth
The answer to the question of “why”, is simple. We must bring attention to this issue by any means necessary. Breasts attract people. That attracts media. The big question is will we get big enough to be uncrushable before we are crushed. That depands on whether people get their asses out there. The more the safer.
Once we get up to 100 or 150 people, we can also start marching down to the jail on any day where there is a Marijuana arrest. This may include shutting down Main Street for 10 or 20 minutes if we are enough to do it.
Rich,
I’m with you, however you need to monitor the public image carefully. The saying ‘more bees with honey then with vinegar’ is true.
You say, ‘hopefully we can shut down main street for 10 or 20 minutes’ sounds like something that would make people look at us in a negative light. A good image is important.
Next Tuesday signs, “Make parks private!” “Parks need privacy!” lol as you show off your chests. If you are going to offend people, make sure they understand the reason or they’ll look at you like children rebelling for the want of rebellion rather then logic and reason.
@Rich “420 Guy” Paul
What makes your opinion for indecentcy more relevent than mine?
I will reiterate……there is absolute right and absolute wrong…….this is wrong
The women going around topless is fine, but man, those guys should keep their shirts on. 
Comment by cyberdoo78
. . . you need to monitor the public image carefully. The saying ‘more bees with honey then with vinegar’ is true. . . .You say, ‘hopefully we can shut down main street for 10 or 20 minutes’ sounds like something that would make people look at us in a negative light. A good image is important.
. . . If you are going to offend people, make sure they understand the reason or they’ll look at you like children rebelling for the want of rebellion rather then logic and reason.
The major impediment to liberty over the past forty years has been the polite, kind, neighborly natures of its proponents. That positive attribute has made freedom activists their own most effective opponent, by allowing it to be turned against themselves as both a weapon and an agent of censorship.
Power-mongers will take offense at anything that threatens what they see as their rightful place as the masters of the rest of us. That means that no pro-liberty argument can ever be made without offending somebody.
Liberty will only succeed if we can finally get those degenerates to be made angry enough to start thinking: to finally recognize both the ethical bankruptcy of their beliefs, and the pure futility of trying to maintain them. Eventually, they’ll come, as I did, to the painful realization that they can only rightfully be angry at themselves.
Of course that article starts with “THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!”
Because by the time I was in middle school I had certainly never seen human breasts. I like any boy of the 80′s or 90′s had Nat. Geographic.
Any kid with access to a computer has seen waaaay more than just an exposed breast.
Censoring like that image seems utterly idiotic. Why would one voluntary censor ones own work? Is the photographer concerned about the prudes being offended?
Rarely has any one who was well behaved made history.
Next thing you know we’ll be hearing that this photo constituted child pornography.
Its difficult to think when you are angry. In fact when people are angry they tend to not be able to think at all. Go piss someone off real bad sometime and ask them just as they are about open a can of whoop on you, ‘quickly what’s 2 times 2.’ Fair to say that the information won’t be processed at all.
I see your point Sam, however I disagree with your assessment.
My paradigm shift took only 6 months going for gun-ho statist to libertarian. Understand I was at the point where I was ready to start becoming one of those wielders of power myself as a city assemblyman. Another six months later I had moved from libertarian to anarchist. I’d say it happened fast for me and I don’t believe that my results are normal.
I can recall a time I would have been in a line with the gun polishers ready to join up and start killing government officals to over throw them. However, killing people isn’t the answer, not when the state wields far more effective killing impliments, that’s how angry I was. My anger didn’t help me think too clearly.
In the same manner, getting the people at large(not the government people) angry at you I think causes a re-enforcement of their belief system, because its all they know. After all Gandhi wasn’t all up in their faces, Dr. King didn’t get all up in their faces. Some of his followers might, but they felt the same thing we all felt when we find out government is evil and all this time we have been supporting evil.
These folks the ones who are angry at us for our stances, for our activism, we aren’t winning them over with our speeches, our debates, our words, because they are too angry at our actions to think straight. Evolution takes time, it takes love and peace, not conflict for the sake of conflict.
I understand why Rich Paul added this to his activism, his followers were dying off because no one really cared they were smoking pot in the square, at least not enough to do anything about it. This too, not enough people care about it to keep doing it, since no one will get arrested for showing their boobs. What’s next….I hate to say it because it really is cheezy, full nudity, at least that would be breaking ‘rule’. Course there is sex in public too, that would be something to crow about.
I’ve said my piece, I’m not going to say anymore about it. In a few weeks, it’ll still be nothing. I think more and more people really are turning the corner where this isn’t such an issue due mostly to the younger generation not caring. How many kids take pics of themselves out of dress and text them to their boyfriend. Its like anything it takes time.
Love and peace to you and yours.
“Douglas was worried that his 6-year-old brother would also be exposed to the situation, she said.”
Wow. This tyrannical mother has even infected her poor 12 year old son with her irrational fear of bare breasts. As if kids weren’t screwed up enough already with school and religion.
I’m sure they’ll grow up with a perfectly healthy attitude towards human sexuality.
It is amazing how there are so many irrational and absurd fears in the comments of the original article about people just trying to be free and be left alone…
As a Christian and someone who grew up in a conservative family, I can’t help but wonder about this: What exactly is the problem with bare breasts? Why such a stigma? Is it just tradition? or “TRADITIONNNNN!!!” as sung in Fiddler on the Roof (I love that movie)?
I mean, historically there’s been no absolutes when it comes to nudity, even here in the USA and New England. Wasn’t so long ago that a woman showing a bare ankle was highly suggestive, and later bare arms.
I was reading the wikipedia page about history of nudity and it had this gem: “until the beginning of the 8th century, Christians in Western Europe were baptised naked.”
Why is it today we have such an obsession with bare breasts?
This isn’t an attack on anyone. It’s mostly a question I’m struggling with myself, if anyone who is opposed to topless women can help me understand.
If there is nothing wrong with breasts, why are the photos touched up to cover part of them?
Are some parts (the areola) bad but the rest of the breast is OK?
How inconsistent is it that you show all in public but not on the internet?
I completely agree that there is nothing wrong with anyone being topless, but why mess with the photo. Sends a mixed message.
That’s what I get for putting info about the photo at the bottom of the article. I have now moved it to the 2nd paragraph. The photo was sent anonymously to us in edited form. It is the only picture available at this time.
From the article, “if men can go topless, why not women?”
Really, you have to ask? I thought it was obvious, they have boobs, men do not. Please quit trying to make this a gender neutral issue, it is not. It is about whether or not people should be allowed to show their genitalia in public. And I do not think it is good public relations to go around showing your genitalia.
@Brodie: breasts are not genitalia. Buy a dictionary. Genitalia are the organs of reproduction. The presence or absence of breasts has no bearing on one’s ability to reproduce.
By the way, both men and women have breasts, including nipples and mammary glands (yes, men can actually produce milk). Women’s are just somewhat larger, on average, due to high levels of estrogen in their bloodstream.
Given that your entire set of claims seems to be based upon a lack of knowledge of basic biology, your conclusions are rendered false.
@MaineShark
My point is that I think it is poor public relations. I have nothing wrong with the nude human body or people showing it off and going completely nude. But don’t sound stupid and claim that there is no difference between a woman’s chest and a man’s chest. That’s like saying ovaries and testicles are the same. They aren’t. And boobs are generally considered sexual, whereas a man’s chest is not. So please accept my apologies. Genitalia seemed like the best choice of words.
There /isn’t/ any practical difference, other than that the /average/ woman has larger breasts than the /average/ man.
Just like the /average/ man is larger and stronger than the /average/ woman.
Discriminating against women’s breasts is pure sexism, just like saying that a woman can’t do X because women aren’t strong enough.
If a given women is strong enough, then she can do that thing.
Unless you’re going to establish a cup size rule, and apply it equally to males and females, you’re engaging in and supporting sexism.
I don’t understand why people think bare breasts are so “wrong”. The human body is beautiful, and if men are allowed to walk around topless, so should women.
My breasts are not pornographic, and not made for the eyes of lovers. They are a harmless, life-giving part of my body. I am biologically engineered with breasts to feed my child, not to gain attention from suitors.
Society has perverted what women’s breasts are seen as to enforce puritanical thought processes. The idea that woman is inherently a temptress, and all actions by her are to lure in the unsuspecting, innocent male. That’s ridiculous. And we need to stop teaching our children this; enforcing these narrow-minded ideals, and using the gun of the government to get what we want. Anyone should be able to look at a woman topless in public and barely think about it, the same way it is with men. It happens, and it’s not a big deal.
Men who think this is “wrong” are obviously insecure with their testosterone levels, and are offended that breasts don’t belong only to them. If a woman would willingly take her top off in public, it’s not a private ownership of his partner’s body. Sorry boys (yes, you cannot call yourself a man if you fear breasts), but women don’t belong to men anymore, and that’s not about to change. Get over your insecurities, all your traditions, and prejudices, and throw them out the window. (Pssh, and y’all call females emotional…)
Women who fear breasts are submissive cowards. Your body belongs to you, and only you. You can feel free to do what you want with it. Same with anyone else out there. Women who feel they lack control in their own lives (such as in a relationship, where they have been conditioned to be submissive), try to control other people’s lives. Why don’t you teach your children that breasts are wonderful (wherever they might be)? They fed them when they were infants (if you breastfed), and are a beautiful part of the human body.
Breasts may be an attractive feature of the body, but no more so than a pretty face, or well-toned arms. That purpose is secondary.
I hope my son will see breasts while he’s out walking around town when he’s older, and just say, “Whatever.” It’s not a big deal.
Murder has always been wrong, and will always be wrong.
If you think bare breasts are wrong, you’re an ignorant asshole.
“Anyone should be able to look at a woman topless in public and barely think about it, the same way it is with men. It happens, and it’s not a big deal.”
Seriously. I’d be more likely to notice what clothes someone /is/ wearing (and hence, where a weapon could be concealed) than what clothes he or she is /not/ wearing. Plus, what clothing someone chooses to wear often says a lot about who he or she is.
@Cassidy
I agree with your position, but you are wrong on a minor point. Permanently enlarged breasts are a trait particular to the predominantly bipedal Homo genus, while lactation is not. Biologically, their shape seems to be a primarily sexual development.
Of course, since the same could be said of full lips, that’s no reason to forbid their display.
Cassidy,
You’re wonderful.
And I love you.
@Richard:
Morris’ theory is only one particular theory. It’s not shared by many other researchers.
But yes, it’s also irrelevant, as there are plenty of other characteristics that are regularly displayed, which are even more obviously linked to sexuality.
@MaineShark: I wasn’t endorsing Morris’ hypothesis, only pointing out that a uniquely human female breast shape in the context of universal primate lactation is at least moderately strong evidence against the shape being primarily driven by offspring sustenance needs.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean it necessarily has to be sexual.
Some support the theory that it’s indicator of health (which would help attract mates, but not in a sexual manner – healthy females are a better “catch,” biologically-speaking). There are many other theories, as well.
OMG, the Human Body! The Horror!!!! The Horror!!!!
(Geez, some people get so worked up over nothing. Must be their government education/programming.)
Thanks Girls! And Go, Go, Go! 
I’d like to bring up the point that not even one of the ladies topless at last Tuesday’s event was a freestater. Every one of them was a Keene local.
Yes,and everyone that disagrees with my opinion is an ‘ignorant a-hole’.We now have this homily posted twice here.If that is the best you can come up with,maybe not wearing your shirt really IS the only way to get your message across.And it doesn’t really offend me,like your future grown-up son,I see all this and say ‘whatever’.To each his or her own. —bil
wtf kind of tribe are you talking about? if you enjoy complete freedom, i should, in my own personal mind, deem anyone seen naked in front of my 2 children, be shot dead on the spot. hows that for your “freedom”. oh wait, but your going to comment against this, its okay, thats your freedom. but then , as i said above, that can be MY freedom(of course, if there are no abolute rights or wrongs). and then, for no absolute right or wrongs, you might as well kill your children and eat them, cause its only wrong if you think it is, right?
what if hitler was right then?
Quite frankly, I’m offended that some people think it’s acceptable to tax away my earnings to pay for their pet programs, to restrict how I can spend or invest my money, and to support smoking bans & other behavior-control laws because they believe *they* know what’s best. So it’s great to see these brave ladies pushing the other way, in a pro-liberty direction.
The control-freak types are squirming over something like this? Good.
I would rather see protest against the taking of my hard-earned money,and against the waste of the same,than to see a movement devolve into the rights of women to go topless.If they had the right,would this be a big blow to liberty?Is this the most egregious wrong in Keene that needs to be addressed?Find a real cause to fight,trust me,it feels better. —bil
If you want to see those protests, then stage them. Have at it.
Who’s stopping you?
There ain’t only /one/ issue to be addressed, here.
Another item worth mentioning: Vermont has no “indecent exposure” law. It’s perfectly legal to walk down the street, buck naked, if you like.
Despite some line on a map, “society” in Vermont is very similar to “society” in New Hampshire.
Oddly enough, Vermont’s society has not imploded due to public nudity (and we’re talking actual nudity, not just exposed nipples). The sun still comes up in the east. Cats aren’t chasing dogs. Children aren’t getting jobs and taking their parents to school every morning. Life is pretty much the same. If you were dropped in any random town in either place, you wouldn’t know which side of the line you were on without doing some research.
So, really, the doom and gloom is just silly. Nudity won’t make the world collapse. Children won’t turn into sex fiends. Marriages won’t dissolve. There’s no demonstrable harm. Just prejudiced folks who are offended that others behave contrary to their prejudices.
But I really doubt anyone does walk down the street nude in Vermont, do they?
Yes, they do. You can end up with whole crowds of nude people in city parks on hot days.
There was a lot of it going on in Brattleboro last year.The only one I know of to get in trouble was some guy washing up in a puddle in a parking lot,he spent a lot of time getting certain parts real clean,and it was considered indecent.Though I do think they enacted some sort of restriction about nudity in the downtown area.Lots of nekkid folks up along the West River,though.
And as for the other protests,I already am ,have been for many years,and will continue to do so.But I have found it more effective to work in a less public way.But it has gotten me pulled out of line at the airport many times.No matter,I am not in any hurry. —bil
Oddly enough, Vermont’s society has not imploded due to public nudity (and we’re talking actual nudity, not just exposed nipples). The sun still comes up in the east. Cats aren’t chasing dogs. Children aren’t getting jobs and taking their parents to school every morning. Life is pretty much the same. If you were dropped in any random town in either place, you wouldn’t know which side of the line you were on without doing some research.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that the world would come to an end if people could walk around nude. Again, I am perfectly fine with people walking around nude.
Yes, they do. You can end up with whole crowds of nude people in city parks on hot days.
Whole crowds huh? What, like maybe 1% of the population? A few days a year? And the rest of the days they wear clothes? Wow, that is such an important liberty issue to make a big deal about.
Oh, I’d say there are a lot of days, other than inclement weather.
Sort of like how most folks use their guns. Go to the range once or twice a year, and otherwise leave it in the safe. Guess that guns aren’t an important liberty issue, because only a few actually carry them on a daily basis, eh?
Because the only reason to have a gun is for entertainment purposes right? And going nude in public is anywhere close to as important as being able to defend one’s right to defend yourself, right?
“Because the only reason to have a gun is for entertainment purposes right?”
To most, yes.
Not to me. But I’m that small minority you whose rights you don’t think are important.
“And going nude in public is anywhere close to as important as being able to defend one’s right to defend yourself, right?”
Not to me. To someone else, it is. To that individual, not being forced to wear clothing is just as important as not being forced to go without a gun is, to me. To someone else, being able to smoke pot in public is the most important issue that exists. To someone else, not having taxes removed from his paycheck is the most important. To someone else, being able to build his house the way he wants it, without code enforcement and zoning interfering is the most important.
You don’t get to set others’ priorities.
“But Joe, your activism should revolve around what *I* consider important! *I* am the arbiter of importance, now heed my words! You women and your freedom to act as equals – that is meaningless. Get back in the kitchen and put that burkah on!”
Where I live (Ontario, Canada) it is legal for women to be topless in public. There were cries of indignation when the law was first passed and predictions that hordes of women would be running around showing their breasts. In truth few women do so even those who strongly believe in the right and it is really no big deal for those who do. It is an individual decision. In fact there is a news show out of Toronto (Naked News) who frequently do man-on-the-street interviews while topless. Many fashions of today, especially swimwear place emphasis on the breasts and in many cases expose just about everything other than the nipple. This of course draws attention to them and raises curiosity about what is hidden. It is my experience that when fully exposed breasts are commonplace (yes, I am a nudist) the curiosity abates, the exposure becomes natural and the woman is seen more as a whole person. Believe it or not when this happens people spend more time looking at one another’s faces than their bodies. Fear of the breast is not rational and I have heard stories of discrimination against women breastfeeding even when most of the breast is covered. Society will not fall apart simply because a few women choose to be topless in a non-sexual way and for those who equate breast freedom with sex that is your problem not the woman’s.
Get back in the kitchen and put that burkah on!
Who here has suggested that women are inferior? Who here thinks there should be “public” property? The only reason this is an issue is because it is public property.
But Joe, your activism should revolve around what *I* consider important!
I would think adults would have mature discussions about what should be the priorities for bringing about liberty. I have yet to really see my point addressed, which is that women going topless in public is really a pretty moot point, because once all is said and done, probably few women will do it anyways, and those that do will probably do it rarely. So if your priorities are to make a big stink about something pretty trivial (in that it is a liberty that would be rarely exercised, and not exercised at all in a free society), be my guest. Just don’t expect my support.
Seems like the prudes are the ones making a stink. We’re just enjoying a nice day in the park.
“Who here has suggested that women are inferior?”
Anyone suggesting that women should be under some obligation that men are not. Both have breasts. Both have nipples. If women are to be required to cover theirs, then something is being taken from them; they are being made less than men.
“I have yet to really see my point addressed, which is that women going topless in public is really a pretty moot point, because once all is said and done, probably few women will do it anyways, and those that do will probably do it rarely.”
Your baseless assumptions as to how many will do it are moot.
Many men go topless in the summer. Eventually, I expect that just as many women will. Maybe a bit less (women with large breasts often want the support of a bra, even if they don’t care about exposure). Maybe a bit more (women who wear a bra all day at work may want to go unfettered as a way of relaxing). I can’t think of any rational reason to imagine that women would be any different from men in regards to exposing their chests, absent restrictions.
I guess I just don’t understand the point? The free stater group has already polluted what used to be a beautiful common with their pointless protests to legalize marijuana. When are you guys going to understand that what your doing is pointless, it sends no positive messages what so ever. You want to smoke pot and play with breasts stay home, get high and watch some red tube. I am a respectful women that believes the human body is beatiful but my 11 year old nephew does not need to see a guy fondeling his girlfriends bare breasts on the common after school. Explain to me what is the point? The only thing being accomplished is convincing the citizens of Keene that your group is even more immature and pointless than we all already thought you were. Get a real cause already and stop harassing the cops who can’t change a thing! For politcal activists you guys sure are pathetic!!!
I can’t think of any rational reason to imagine that women would be any different from men in regards to exposing their chests,
Because it can hurt. And again, in a free society, it would be a moot point, because there is no public property in a free society. This is not about liberty. It is about trying to change societal norms, nothing else. Don’t deceive yourselves into thinking this is about liberty.
@Rheannon:
How can a protest with the intent of ending marijuana prohibition be pointless? You know, when you mention the point of the protest in your description?
Do you think before you type these things?
@Brodie:
“Because it can hurt.”
What can hurt whom, exactly? Other than that guy in Britain who got suffocated by his girlfriend’s breasts during sex, I can’t think of a case where exposed breasts hurt anyone…
“This is not about liberty. It is about trying to change societal norms, nothing else. Don’t deceive yourselves into thinking this is about liberty.”
Liberty is not politics only. Anti-liberty societal behaviors are anti-liberty, and deserve to be addressed by liberty activists. For example, I would defend a “white power” group’s right to hold a protest in the same place. But I would also be there protesting against them, most likely. The “societal norm” they support is anti-liberty, and I would oppose it, peacefully.
The organization whose site I run supports all reasonable attempts at topfree equality for women, as Cassidy and others know. We’ve been around for 13 years.
Good luck.
(No offence, but it’s “Mastophobia.”)
On occasion,I support a site that also advocates the right of women to be topless in public.However,I don’t require that others also look,willing or not.Do people really feel this is a big issue in this country,or is it just something else to make the average citizen upset with any cause associated with it? Sometimes I am reminded of the old police game during the student anti-war protests,infiltrate and discredit. —bil
Who’s requiring anyone to look?
That’s just asinine.
I will reiterate……there is absolute right and absolute wrong…….this is wrong
There is reasoned ethical argument and there is unsupported unilateral declaration of morality. This is unsupported unilateral declaration of morality.
I find unsupported unilateral declarations of morality indecent – and worse yet dangerous. Please refrain from doing dangerous, indecent things like this in the future, for the sake of the children if not for my sake. Thank you for your peaceful cooperation.
Without arguing the case either way, that baring of breasts in public is good or bad, or whether ‘people are beautiful’, I must say I find this group of folks perhaps the upgliest group of folks I can recall in the near past. Just plain fugly. Pleeeease, go home, wash up, exercise, be good to yourselves…
“Who’s requiring anyone to look?”
Your choice of location is forcing many to look.
I can’t help wondering why nobody is commenting on Matt’s comment:
“The young girl on the far left next to Richard Paul is ONLY 16!!!!!!”
Does nobody care that children are not only being exposed to this, they are also being exposed IN this???
Maybe I AM just an ignorant asshole………….
“Does nobody care that children are not only being exposed to this, they are also being exposed IN this???
Maybe I AM just an ignorant asshole………….”
You said it.
It’s her body. And it’s up to you to prove that she’s actually a child. I’ve met 16-year-old adults, a number of times. I’ve met 40-, 50-, and 60-year-old children too many times to count.
I’ve met her, and she’s no adult. Did anyone bother to ask her age? Or were they too busy objectifying her body to care. Sad day when your cause depends on half naked children.
“I’ve met her, and she’s no adult.”
Given all that I know of you from your posts here, I doubt you’re in a position to make such a determination.
“Did anyone bother to ask her age? Or were they too busy objectifying her body to care.”
Yes, because that’s the only reason someone might not ask her age. The fact that it’s none of their business couldn’t possibly factor into it, eh?
Folks who are are all “on” about “social mores” should probably understand that asking women their age is generally frowned-upon in this culture.
“Sad day when your cause depends on half naked children.”
Sad day when that’s all some prevert can see.
Kate has more courage than most people could only dream of. Who cares how old she is? She is brave and bold. I’m proud to know her.
So anyways, someone was saying how they knew so many women that would like to go around topless. And so far, the most women that have been out topless, in a town of I would guess 10,000 adult women, were 4, and then this week there were none. So far, it does not seem to be a very important issue for most women to me. I could be wrong.
I counted 2,but that was just at my house.I am sure there were others if you know where to look.Try Keene State on Friday night,always something going on there.:) —bil
16 is legal here in Britain, so I have no problem with it. No point to your arguing anyway, you can’t change eachothers /opinions/.
Brests, tits, boobs what ever you want to call it. Boobs are sexual objects. In a porn in mostly all porns you see a man sucking and licking a womens brest and she is moaning in pleasure. You dont see the women sucking or licking a mans nipples or breasts. Women are able to feed there young not men women we are not equal we are different and is that so bad. Perhaps Gwen is a women wanting to be a man therefore fighting for topless equality. Breasts are different and unique no two are the same and bare breasts bouncing down the street are hard not to notice and make people uncomfortable because they are and always will be sexual. so people stop being so rediculous and just admit men like breasts and women like the attention they receive from there breasts. as well as the pleasure felt during sex when attention is paid to them.
Yeah… no men like having women play with their nipples. Someone’s totally lacking in knowledge of human sexuality.
Male and female breasts are biologically identical. All the same structures are there. Give a man hormones, and his will start lactating. A woman lacking the proper hormonal balance will not lactate.
Breasts are breasts, whether on a male or a female. The only difference is that the average female breasts is larger than the average male breast. Just like an average male is taller than an average female. Should tall people be banned?
Just remember that most of those porn people are trained actors.A lot of what seems like moans of pleasure are groans of pain.After working with some of the people from Vivid Video on a documentary on the porn industry,you see it is not all fun and games.But breasts are certainly considered sexual objects in this society,like it or not. —bil
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