Suicide by Self-Immolation in Keene – Confirmed

Keene Police were not giving out much info, but there is a dead body out front of Cheshire Superior Court and a large amount of charring on the sidewalk in front of the courthouse. Police scanner recordings confirm this is a case of suicide by self-immolation. You can listen to the Keene police scanner here.

Makes you wonder what the court did to the poor guy/gal. More details as we learn them:

UPDATE: Here’s the Sentinel’s piece with comments from a witness.

UPDATE: Here’s audio from the police scanner feed after the man sets himself ablaze.

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61 Comments

  1. Glad you guys are doing what your doing but you are jumping to conclusions. "Makes you wonder what the court did to the poor guy/gal." Yea, maybe..

    Makes we wonder why people didn't see warning signs and try to help the guy before it came to this. Makes me wonder why we are cutting funding to mental health treatment across the country.

  2. IAN THE SPEEDYEST NEWS MAN!

    right on topa things

  3. 🙂

  4. It's what started the revolution in egypt. If this did happen because another judge violated another persons natural rights lets hope this death won't be in vain.

  5. 🙁

    You would never expect something this drastic, if it was done in an act of protest.

  6. Congratulations NH, you have become so corrupt and out of control that someone has made the ultimate statement and chosen such a painful way to die.

    The entire justice system, the judicial committee, and police who played a role in cornering this person should be ashamed at the result you have created. How many times in the history of America has this happened?

    Keene certainly be known for more than it's white steeple now. . .

  7. Its hard to believe the guy could be dead … :how long could a man be flaming before someone says "hey that looks outa place" …

    I mean …..thats a pretty big ash thing there… Doesn't it take long for a person to burn to death?

  8. @david-keene That a bit odd. Where could he have come from that people wouldn't notice he was on fire? Burning to death certainly isn't instantaneous. I can't imagine how painful it must have been.

  9. its right downtown people walking by constantly

  10. just went to the scene. Witnesses being interviewed by WMUR. All juggaloes. Reporter if it was related to Free Keene. I assume that would have explained everything, right? Don't expect any sort of meaningful dialogue to develop as to the series of cruel injustices that caused this man to reduce himself to ash.

  11. Sam,

    You're jumping to mile-high conclusions there. I think it's horrible to automatically turn this incredibly sad situation which no one knows ANYTHING about besides what was seen from afar into propaganda for personal agendas, which is essentially what you have just done.

    Placing blame merely hours after this happened is simply uncalled for. If you were truly concerned for the well being of others I would think you would be more sympathetic, and not merely use this person's suffering as a vessel for your own complaints. You have no idea what caused these actions, and unfortunately we may never know…but that doesn't mean you should automatically assume it has something to do with what you yourself stand for.

    That being said, this is an incredibly jarring incident, and I hope that we are able to find some answers eventually.

  12. Holy,

    It isn't hard to make that conclusion when he lights himself in front of the court house. I've met too many people in keene abused by the system, and quite a few whom I've felt would have done something like this to themselves….

    that said, I'd also feel uncomfortable using this to push an 'agenda' (I doubt sam was doing that), and think it may pay to sit back and evaluate this…

  13. @ holy canole:

    The poor man (or woman, details are slow to surface) ended their life ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE. He/she could not have made the their intended audience/fingered their abusers more clearly. Do you suppose they chose to do this as a thank you for the wonderful services he/she received? Sam is correct in seeing this spade for what it is, a victim of the city/state who was finally pushed too far. Take enough away from a person, they often see little choice but death.

  14. antijinogoist and Josh,

    I'm sorry, but it is simply entirely too early to make any assumptions. The details are completely vague. This person could have been protesting any number of things, or not protesting at all…we don't even know for sure if this was an intentional act. Additionally, as Ian pointed out in the first response…this person could have been mentally ill.

    Saying "the entire justice system, the judicial committee, and police who played a role in cornering this person should be ashamed at the result you have created" is 100% presumptuous…it is simply irreverent to this poor person to automatically start conflating your own personal beliefs with whatever it is he/she was trying to say, before we have had a chance to hear what that even was.

  15. Friend of mine was driving down Winter when this was happening. Before rescue was on scene. Stopped, tried to help – said there was probably a dozen people just standing around snapping pics and taking vids, not doing anything useful like trying to help or even calling it in. Ugly.

  16. Holy,

    I pretty much said the same thing. Just added that its not hard to draw that conclusion.

    Just trying to be reasonable. Not gonna use this to start a fight w/ you (not saying you are trying.)

  17. @Ian,

    The funding for mental health treatment is being cut across the country because the US government has around 120 trillion future liabilities and it doesn't have a plan to pay those liabilities. The fact is that the current US government is more poorly managed than any government in the history of the US. Ian, if you find a way to come up with 120 trillion, please let Obama know about it.

    That doesn't even include the trillions of dollars that the states have to come up with somehow.

  18. antijingoist,

    Alright, sorry….I thought you were insinuating that, since it may not be hard to draw that conclusion, it is the correct conclusion to draw.

    Glad you agree that we should wait and see…let this poor person's final point be made before we start making it for them.

  19. @george,

    thats bullcrap.

  20. As for not doing anything, it is far more cruel to rescue someone in the process of burning themselves to death. That is unless there is some unknown paradise that comes with being a severe burn victim, self-inflicted or otherwise. I say it is is within reason and logic to jump to the conclusion that this unfortunate soul was victimized by the so-called justice system. If they simply wished to draw attention to themselves, the town square, or the middle of the road would have been a better venue. The location was chosen for a reason and it is no disrespect to the departed to see the message he or she was clearly intending to deliver. To tell yourself otherwise is a stunning kind of willful denial about the reality of the world we live in. Odds are that if a note WAS left on the courthouse door, it was far too damning and was disposed of.

  21. Furthermore, it is the worst kind of hubris and the tragic flaw of compassionate people that allows them to grant themselves the moral authority to intervene when somebody chooses to take their own life. As I see it, that is the ultimate denial of self-ownership.

    Thích Qu?ng ??c, perhaps the most notable example of protest by self-immolation, also was left to be consumed by the flames. What I find most saddening is the immediate reaction on the part of WMUR that it MUST involve a Free Keene member/Free Stater, the implication being that deceased would thereof be an anti-government nutjob pulling another one of their stunts and therefore diminish the meaningfulness of their death.

    May he or she find the peace in death others clearly denied them in life.

  22. Josh,

    I'm not telling myself otherwise…I'm not telling myself anything. I'm waiting to see what type of information will come up before I form any sort of opinion. No denial there, simply allowing time for the person's message to surface, rather than immediately assuming he/she was protesting something I myself would protest.

  23. "perhaps the most notable example of protest by self-immolation, also was left to be consumed by the flames. What I find most saddening is the immediate reaction on the part of WMUR that it MUST involve a Free Keene member/Free Stater, the implication being that deceased would thereof be an anti-government nutjob pulling another one of their stunts"

    so it's ok for you to make assumptions based on the conclusions you have drawn, but not for others? Assuming that this is someone who is anti-government and/or part of the Free State movement is no more presumptuous than the things you have said to be 'within reason and logic' about why these actions were taken.

    (for the record, I would agree that WMUR should not jump to conclusions…I just don't think you should either)

  24. Alleged.

    I haven't seen anything I regard as constituting proof that a self-immolation occured. It's all circumstantial.

    I remain skeptical. Just because Ian says something happened, or just because the cops say something happened, does not mean it happened.

    Where's the proof?

  25. nor is it time to start crying about who is speculating what and becoming the speculation police towards what the other members of the peanut gallery have to say about it.

  26. I'm not crying about anything…I'm stating my opinion on the matter, and the events which have since transpired.

  27. Witnesses, Evan. A charred corpse on the grass a short distance from burn damage to the pavement. Smoke, the smell of fire in the air. Don't be juvenile.

    Holy Canole: A point well made and considered. What I was displeased with is the implication that dis-satisfaction with the justice system is unique to a particular group of ideologues, namely "Free Staters", when frankly it is a rage that is mounting globally.

  28. "Holy Canole: A point well made and considered. What I was displeased with is the implication that dis-satisfaction with the justice system is unique to a particular group of ideologues, namely “Free Staters”, when frankly it is a rage that is mounting globally."

    A perfectly valid point, which is why I agreed with you that WMUR shouldn't jump to conclusions about who this person was/what they were involved with. Same as I don't think people should jump to conclusions about what he/she was trying to do by taking this action.

  29. Hopefully, this person detailed the reasons for their action and the media will do the right thing and release this information, regardless of the light it casts on the individual or any social institution.

  30. I agree…but until then (or until a reasonable amount of time has passed) I plan on simply going off the information given, not inferred.

  31. I'm going to speculate:the guy got his parental rights taken away.

    I wonder which judge made his decision.so many unanswered questions

  32. FTL board global moderator (and gossip monger) John Shaw says: "THIS PARTICULAR MAN MIGHT HAVE BURNED HIMSELF TO DEATH. That is what we are talking about in this thread. Someone definitely burned themselves to death. I've heard it may be this Seamus fellow.

    I don't understand the point of any of the other stuff you are talking about. It is not relevant to this thread and if you start attacking this guy and it turns out that he died in protest on the Keene courthouse driveway because he wanted "To participate" and help the Free Keene movement in some messed up way you're gonna look like a giant fucking asshole.

    I'm just saying'"

    At least John has the decency to wait until the smell of burnt flesh and gasoline, drifts off to Nova Scotia, before his Ayn Rand gets turgid enough to see if the dead comrade left him his Porcfest ticket.

    Then again, maybe Sam is back to scarf them up.

  33. Usually self-immolation is done as some form of political protest, regular suicidals choose quicker and less painful methods. Now we'll just have to wait and see what it was for.

    If it was for some silly little thing, then part of the blame could well fall on the freeststists who have created an echo chamber wherein trivial things such as vehicle registration, and parking fines are seen as grave violation of human/natural rights.

    It will be a good lesson on the dangers of allowing oneself to get lost in the twisted worldview that freestatists hold.

    Of course, all this depends on what caused this, so you freestatists best keep your fingers crossed.

  34. @bigScrotum

    Cry more.

    Whoever you are, you're an asshole.

  35. We do not know it the person was a "Free Stater", someone that had a court judgement go against them, a mentally ill person who did not know what they were doing, or a landscaper who was smoking too close to a can of gas. Whatever happened it's a tragedy that someone had to die that way. I think everyone need to shut up and wait for the facts to come out.

  36. Given that the front page of this web site is dedicated to liberty-based issues and this article is posted there, why wouldn't one assume that the free state movement supported/condoned/applauds this type of action? This may not even be political in nature.

    I also understand why people would assume the free-state movement was involved, due to their sometimes bordering on radical and usually irrelevant demonstrations.

    This really is a tragedy, whether it was a mentally ill, emotionally devastated, or a politically misguided individual.

  37. If it was for some silly little thing, then part of the blame could well fall on the freeststists who have created an echo chamber wherein trivial things such as vehicle registration, and parking fines are seen as grave violation of human/natural rights.

    A grave violation of human/natural rights? No. That's simply your twisted perspective conjuring up a strawman as usual. Activists oppose these things because, despite being minor violations of liberty and parasitic revenue generation for the state, they are unjust and immoral.

    Activists recognize that where the state takes an inch, they'll take a mile. This is an historical truth… Government doesn't ever stop in its encroachment once it finds an "in". It grows like a cancer, killing minor liberty after minor liberty until entire "organs" of liberty are infected and begin to die off.

    If these minor state aggressions against liberty can't be stopped, what hope is there when the infringements truly are grave violations of human/natural rights?

    At that point, speaking out will be much too little and far too late.

    It will be a good lesson on the dangers of allowing oneself to get lost in the twisted worldview that freestatists hold.

    Yes, how dastardly and sinister it is that they should believe every living person has a right not to have their life, liberty, labor, or property usurped and dominated by corrupt, immoral, parasitic would-be tyrants.

  38. As usual scrotumbag and ng..whatever,

    Have caustic remarks all the while accusing others of the foulness they perpetrate.

    I have a question:Why are people linking "free staters" to this?

    I read the article , where is the attribution besides out of the mouths on non credible trolls?

  39. Its crazy to torch yourself……but it DOES make a splash you have to say that ..

    As far as " "Immolation" thats a fancy word.

    Um.

    someone who torches them self in public …and cause your self so much pain in public .

    wow …

    they will probably bury it on the back pages so that keenes' puritan country newengland charm doesn't get messed up.

    We have to find out who that was and why.

  40. I just went by the courthouse (at about 8:00 am today)

    and they were hosing down the spot where it happened .I could still see the black spot .

  41. Holy cow, the majority of you believe that if you wander across a person in flames you should just let them burn? I get – and support – a person's right to end their own life. But unless you actually witness the person setting themselves on fire, how can you possibly differentiate between a horrific accident and an intentional self-immolation?

  42. Absolutely, a statement about the ABUSE of Fathers which occurs everyday in this abortion clinic of justice. Everyone associated with this holocaust against the family should be ashamed of themselves. But how could they? They do this to Fathers EVERYDAY. They burn their relationship with their children and homes and incomes EVERYDAY. And for what? For MONEY (kick backs from Feds on every child they separate from the primary income producer) and for the anti-father radical feminazi agenda which adherence to is required to for employment in this building. Also required for GAL's and Visitation Center employees associated with this building. RIP fine soldier, your sacrifice will not be in vain.

  43. So it's my "twisted perspective" that allows me to bear with these minor injustices and not feel the urge to barbecue myself? Is that what you're saying Zeus?

    Thanks, but I'll take my worldview over yours any day.

    "Government doesn’t ever stop in its encroachment once it finds an “in”."

    This is factually untrue, the government has deregulated trucking, airlines, phone services… so on, just off the top.

    See Zeus, your freehippie rhetoric may work when you're participating in the freehippie circle jerk. But when you come out and play with the big boys you'll get exposed as the ignoramus that you are. Maybe the reason the FSP is such a failure after a decade is because its most vocal proponents are so painfully incompetent.(you, Ian, the LOT bunch…)

  44. This is really sad! Nobody even knows yet, why this poor man took his own life. Yet, here we have people trying to attach this tragedy to their own personal agenda's. "I think he did it for this reason", "I think he did it because of that". For all we know, he could have been an Illegal Alien, distraught over being deported again, or protesting the upcoming addition to the Court House. Maybe he was mentally ill and had no concept of what he was doing. To blindly attach this to causes that it MIGHT (or might not) be related to, is just self serving. NO guess is a reasonable guess. We need to keep our minds open for the input of FACTS.

    Why don't we put aside our agendas for a few minutes and just reflect on the tragedy of this loss of life.

  45. of coures i was RIGHT AS USUAL : FAMILY COURT/DIVORCE

  46. Even a broken clock is right twice a day David. But I seriously doubt you speculated correctly without any outside information or prior knowledge.

  47. @ng,

    It's called a educated guess.

    key word EDUCATED.

    your key word is ignorance

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