NH Native Shocked, Disgusted at Cheshire Superior Court Security’s Behavior

December 23, 2011 by Ian
Filed under: Court, Issues, Update

Nemi Jones, a New Hampshire native, and inhabitant of the Keene area for nearly 20 years was in court this week when security agents attacked peaceful people and kidnapped them because they did not stand for the robed man. She was shocked and disgusted, calling the experience a “red pill”. Here’s her post about her experience from the Shire Free Press:

It’s been an eventful week in the Shire. Learn more here and here.

In response to John Q’s comment on a related post on FreeKeene.com on Thu, 22nd Dec 2011 @ 6:48 pm:

“Let me get this right; you guys went into the court house and harrassed this guys, taunted him and antagonized him, followed him around and wonder why they’re reacting to that?”

No, you don’t have it right at all, actually. Wednesday, peaceful people entered the Cheshire County “Superior” Courthouse to conduct business peacefully. These peaceful people were not rude, provocative, confrontational, or antagonistic toward anyone. They did not seek out conflict in any way, shape, or form.

Unprovoked, these people (and/or others) were treated by the bailiffs (CSO Tebo especially) in an appallingly biased, disrespectful, and completely unprofessional way. In the courtroom, clearly assuming the membership of his audience, Tebo raised his voice and shouted at half the quietly-settling gallery to be quiet (though court hadn’t yet convened), barked an order to remove hats, and ordered them stand when the judge entered, or leave.

Does this account conflict with your preconceived notions? I can relate. If I hadn’t experienced it first-hand, I wouldn’t have believed it either.

My jaw rarely drops, but CSO Tebo’s conduct in the courtroom on Wednesday was beyond the pale. In my shock, I must have missed another bailiff saying “all rise,” but in all honesty, I’m not sure I would have risen if I had. No court worthy of respect could allow or condone this sort of behavior from a person in its employ.

Before someone goes off half-cocked, allow me to clarify: I’m a native, not a “Free Stater.” I’ve lived in Keene for nigh on 20 years now. Arnold has presided over three adoption hearings I’ve attended over those years, and not once have I had any trouble (or needed to file a notice) when bringing electronics into the courtroom … a nod and a smile from the court staff, perhaps, but nothing even remotely like the security theater circus I experienced Wednesday. Afterward, I was physically shaking; I felt nauseous. It was truly disgusting.

I watched a bailiff block the exit of a peaceful person who wished to leave the courtroom. I watched this peaceful person ask the judge to intervene on his behalf. I watched the judge defer to the bailiffs, who handcuffed this peaceful person for failing to leave, then dragged him across the floor en route to jail. I later watched Arnold try to revise history for the record (and his image?) during this peaceful person’s hearing on a criminal contempt charge.

Let’s contrast and compare, shall we?

Not two weeks ago I entered the Grafton County Superior Court with the same equipment and credentials I carried with me Wednesday. Without filing a media notice or waiting for a judge’s ruling, I was allowed (yes, “allowed”) to keep everything I brought. The sheriffs running the security checkpoint handed me a copy of Tina Nadeau’s order regarding filming on court premises, and pointed me toward the clerk’s office. Before I’d been granted judicial clearance to film, I asked for clarification regarding filming in the lobby. The sheriffs at the checkpoint told me I’d be fine to film without judicial clearance, so long as I had the permission of those I was filming.

Reasonable, respectful, courteous. If people visiting a court are conducting themselves that way, there is absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t be treated the same way in return.

That said, Mr. Q, I wholeheartedly applaud the efforts of those working to get Arnold and his squad of Napoleon brutes on film. People in the employ of the court are not immune to accountability, and their silence should not protect them. If they feel uncomfortable, perhaps they should examine the role they played in bringing their discomfort to pass, and begin behaving in a way that doesn’t make them squirm and squall when sunshine is cast on their actions.

Bob Constantine

I've been to Grafton County Superior Court many times with Mr. Talley and while he may not have been the favorite media person of the Court staff / bailiffs he never got dragged around as has happened in Chesire County. In my opinion there is a real bias and a need for accountability in Chesire County Superior Court. Whether you like his work or not, the evidence points to the bias…in my opinion.
matt

"Afterward, I was physically shaking; I felt nauseous. It was truly disgusting"

I wonder how the older women who have nothing to do with any of this besides working in the same building feel – after having been ridiculed, bullied and harassed on their way to work this morning by Adam, Ian and Derrick? I don't see any videos of you Nemi with a font placed over you calling you "ugly" for all my friends to get a chuckle out of. A bully is a bully is a bully – even if they say they are peaceful.
blackie

Y'all really use the word "peaceful" too much. I'm just sayin'
Bob Constantine

Mat, you mentioned the ladies have nothing to do with it…That is a comfortable rationalization. They may be nice ladies, but it is inescapable that in a cumulative way anybody that participates in a system that relies upon the initiation of force "has something to do with it".

That "just doing my job" mantra does not absolve a person of their allegiance to a flawed system. Even if "everybody does it" an accumulation of "wrongful behavior" cannot somehow make something morally right. it is wrong to force people that haven't harmed anyone to particpate in a system and then out of the other side of the mouth call it a "service". It is also illogical.
http://capitalismsmash.blogspot.com/ SMASH CAPITALISM

I agree, stop calling everybody a "peaceful person." It sounds stupid
Bob Constantine

Everybody isn't a "peaceful person". That's why it's important to make that distinction.
matt

Then Bob, by your (and Ian's) theory, a judge or bailiff in Miami could screw up, and since the "system" doesn't just stay in one building, that a janitor in a court's employ in Des Moines could/would/should be messed with as he/she walks into work. I get what you're saying – I just don't happen to agree that these people who do not work in the same room or have similar job functions should feel the wrath of someone else's decisions. Some woman who files papers all day and has no contact or knowledge of what occurs in other rooms in the court house is a much different animal and paygrade than a judge or bailiff. You got a problem with the bailiff? Fine. But there does have to be some modicum of respect for people, whether it is someone who has nothing to do with the events that pissed these three off, and those who make poor decisions that do affect others.

Ian and Derrick and Ademo are not peaceful. A peaceful person seeks true answers – a desire to have meaningful dialogue – is truthful when he speaks (his Merry Xmas greetings were not sincere at all) and wishes to treat others as he would expect to be treated. Calling people ugly and harassing them is not any of those things.
Chaz Munro

Bob Constantine on Sat, 24th Dec 2011 9:15 am

Mat, you mentioned the ladies have nothing to do with it…That is a comfortable rationalization. They may be nice ladies, but it is inescapable that in a cumulative way anybody that participates in a system that relies upon the initiation of force “has something to do with it”.

That “just doing my job” mantra does not absolve a person of their allegiance to a flawed system. Even if “everybody does it” an accumulation of “wrongful behavior” cannot somehow make something morally right. it is wrong to force people that haven’t harmed anyone to particpate in a system and then out of the other side of the mouth call it a “service”. It is also illogical.

—

"I only opened and closed the doors to the trains that carried the people to the concentration camps. I'm not responsible for their lives being ruined or ended."

These clerks are on the same team, as they are government. The same gang that has had swat teams, soldiers, and other assorted thugs, murder the innocent with impunity.

Do your stupid troll dance, Matt, while still absurdly begging to be taken seriously. You still worship power and do not care whether those in power are right or wrong, as long as they can keep down those who oppose their ways.

You and the insane government you support have become a sad joke, deserving of our ridicule, not respect.
matt

Aw Chaz – thank you….what kind of thread would this be without the concentration camp comparison. I've said it a million times before – your comparing the horror of the holocaust with freekeene is an insult to a holocaust survivor. It's about as overcooked as my responding with "don't like it here – then move". But I don't do that – because I have the brains to know it is overdone – STFU.

Clerks are on the same team….as with anyone in government? LOL. When's the last time you gave your postal carrier shit? How about the guy plowing the interstate? How about the guy raking leaves at a state park? What about people who collect welfare (Hi david-keene!)? What about the single mother who gets free milk and cheese…..have you gone and ridiculed her yet? What about the Doctors who work on cancer research who have government grants…..given them any shit yet? How about people up in Alstead who lost everything during our floods but received assistance from FEMA? Those sick murderous bastards! HOW ABOUT THE FOUNDER OF THE FREE STATE PROJECT, JASON SORENS, WHO COLLECTS A PAYCHECK FROM THE STATE OF NEW YORK FOR HIS INCOME AS A UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR. Gone and ridiculed him yet? Oops – what to do Chaz?

I could give a rat's ass if you take me seriously or not; don't like what I have to say…?….GOOD – have yourself a good cry over it – I'm only none too happy that it irritates you enough to even bother replying. You're as looney as the other dumbfuck on here who is infatuated with replying to me.
http://capitalismsmash.blogspot.com/ SMASH CAPITALISM

@Matt- Theres a big difference in the types of gubmint workers. Only some actively help enforce the gubmints stupid laws. Those are judges, police, court security, code enforcement, tax collectors, etc. Then theres all the rest that just do regular public services that somebody has to do. Like DPW and the snow plow drivers and the water main workers. So i wouldnt blame all those other people for the gubmints actions. Court clerks though, id say their responsible, in part at least. I even work in a building that the gubmint occasionally uses as a jail
Bill

Thank you Smash, You just confirmed Matt's point. The majority of the people being harassed in the parking lot had nothing to do with what happened in the Courtroom the day before. Leave the innocent's alone!
CandyinBerlin

Chaz was named after the stuffed that oozed out of his brain when he was born. Macaroni and Chaz.
Anita

@Matt — you hit the nail on the head. And another thing — the phone calls to the court offices referring to staff as "Mindless Minions" is a disgrace. Hope those of you who partake in that kind of harassment are proud of that display also.
david

The nay sayers are only nay sayers because it hasn't happened to them or theirs YET!

Key word : YET.

The nay sayers only care when it happens to them or theirs.

The activists have others in mind.

The nay sayers are glad of activists when it happens to THEM OR THEIRS.

Then the nay sayers love the activists and look at them as saviors.
matt

Sorry to disappoint you Welfare David – but if I went into a court room, I would simply stand if asked – BIG FUCKING DEAL – so…..I shall continue to be your new favorite expresion – a "nay sayer". And even if I didn't stand, the judge, not knowing me wouldn't probably give a shit. And why wouldn't he know me? Because I don't run around town like a fool videotaping people, screaming at cops, telling 10 year old's outside of their school that school sucks, encouraging high school kids to smoke pot (and handing it to them – as seen on freekeene vids) – etc….etc…..etc………etc……………etc……………….

The activists have one thing and one thing only on their minds – being pricks. Each of them want to be the next Alex Jones – and it's laughable, because it isn't ever going to happen. If people really liked the idea of these same individuals doing this, why then….out of the MILLIONS of people in this country, are there only the same 10 people doing it? Even youtube hits are abysmal – there are more hits on GTA 4 gameplay vids.
Bob Constantine

Matt for the record I didn't ever say if I find it acceptable to mess with people going to work, you assumed that. However if you were to go just a little deeper on your thought, is it okay for ANYBODY to mess with somebody else that prefers to be left alone all the while leaving others alone? Please answer that.
matt

That really depends Bob. My answer in general would be "no" – but I also recognize there are circumstances where it *may* be necessary. Is it okay if I want to be left alone and sit silently past closing hours at the library all night? No – someone is probably going to have to mess with me to move me along. Is it okay for me to have a picnic in the median of an interstate? Probably not – I would expect someone is going to come and mess with me. When AnarchoJesse decided it to be a good idea to dig up Central Square for a "community garden" – I thought it perfectly acceptable for police to tell him to stop. And so forth ————-
Bob Constantine

Matt you bring up a good point, it is an excellent argument for private property wherein the person(s) that pay for and own something set the rules concerning the use of it.

For the record I like libraries, and would be wiling to fund a private one but unwilling to jail you or anybody else for refusing to pay for a public one that you chose not to use. How about you?
matt

I know a lot of people who haven't paid taxes in years and years. None of them have been thrown in the clink – so – I don't really know. Also – my argument, for lack of a better term, were all examples of publicly funded properties – none of them are private. I don't have a problem with paying taxes. I enjoy not having to worry about the roads being salted/paved, or 'hoping' someone will fix a water main break, and that trained EMT's are ready to go if myself or others suddenly keel over etc. Taxes aren't going anywhere – no matter how many times Ian and crew want to sit when a judge walks into a courtroom – lol. I, like so many others, keep an eye on tax rates and vote on the issues at hand – I happen to support this way of living.
david

"matt" ,

what makes you think I'm on "welfare"?

Don't make up cashier stories and ebt cards that didn't happen(like you did last time)..

That is why you have a fake name and say made up stuff.

"matt" just likes making things up.

I await a real answer(which he doesn't have), not a made up lie(from someone with a fake name).
david

You're a small town gossip "matt" who if he doesn't know stuff about someone he makes it up and you can't even use your REAL name while doing so.
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theKINGofKEENE

All joking aside…not too long ago, there were MORE Federal Civil Rights lawsuits pending against the Cheshire County Jail, that ALL 9 OTHER County jails…

This was BEFORE Rick Van Wickler(L.E.A.P. member…)…

think about that…

I am only trying to EDUCATE you punkfucks…

Can you tell how close to the end of my patience rope I am with you kids…???…….

;(
theKINGofKEENE

"matt", david-keene lives on Social Security, not "welfare", and it's "EBT card" now, NOT "foodstamps"…

same difference, tho…