Judge Howard Lane, filling in for our friend Burke, found Sam “guilty” today for driving after suspension in relation to this incident.
Sam raised a few objections regarding conflicts of interest and why Burke has not yet ruled on his previous case, but he played by the court rules for the most part (except for standing). Below is a cut-down video from the trial including Sam’s objections and a few other highlights:
And here is the longer, full trial video:
Is there an appeal in the works?
Next time, why don't you demand (not ask for) a jury before your trial, and use jury nullification during it. It's your right, you know (listed in the 6th Amendment [focus on "ALL criminal prosecutions"]).
You could try, Thomas, but they won't allow it on anything below a "class a misdemeanor". Doesn't seem to matter about what that pesky constitution says.
Word is there may be an appeal.
Sam you got balls. I've done some self representation in family court for parenting time with my kids. They do everything in their power to intimidate. It's sickening how the legal system works. The lack of justice is obvious. It is their game, their ball, their rules. Shut up, bend over and say "thank you sir, may I have another." Despicable. I hate any government that would allow this behavior. I'm so sorry dude, but you will not win. Divine intervention is humankind's only hope. Take care and thanks for the vid. It is nice to see someone reveal the… Read more »
Sam…you have publicly shown yourself to be a moron.
Be thankful that the judge didnt find you in contempt for wasting the courts time with meaningless objections and motions.
Get a life ass wipe.
Nothing new to see here…Just another display of Sam's incompetence and passive aggresive behavior
Why IHaveHadEnough, what an ugly things to say. We all have a life that we live just fine. The only ones needing to get a life are the people calling themselves 'government'. Why don't they just tend to their lives and leave us alone to live our lives? And you; how did Sam's actions affect you? Your life doesn't seem to occupy enough of your time, so you have to spend time here, talking smack about someone and something you know nothing about. YOU get a life. If you have 'had enough' then just go back to your life and… Read more »
I found his objections very resonable. The 'state' being the prosector and the judge is a very clear conflict of interest. Can anyone resonably indicate otherwise?
1. Sam, you are one tough fellow to be meeting these people on their own stomping grounds. Bravo.
2. I hope the website folks will develop an "ignore" button
@WYATT-SOCAL wrote:
"I found his objections very resonable. The ’state’ being the prosector and the judge is a very clear conflict of interest. Can anyone resonably indicate otherwise?"
Actually, those of us who are at least marginally sentient can REASONABLY point out that you are illiterate.
Comment by IHaveHadEnough October 24, 2009 @ 2:03 pm Sam…you have publicly shown yourself to be a moron. Be thankful that the judge didnt find you in contempt for wasting the courts time with meaningless objections and motions. Get a life ass wipe. And what is YOUR stake in the system as it is? Are you being paid to mooch off the taxpayers? (i.e. welfare reciepient, military, cop, gov't employee, etc) If so, what kind of honest and peaceful life do you currently lack? Sam works for a living and I doubt that your story could stack up even that… Read more »
Comment by AnAmazedReader October 24, 2009 @ 3:02 pm <blockquote cite="AnAmazedReader"> @WYATT-SOCAL wrote: “I found his objections very resonable. The ’state’ being the prosector and the judge is a very clear conflict of interest. Can anyone resonably indicate otherwise?” Actually, those of us who are at least marginally sentient can REASONABLY point out that you are illiterate. <blockquote cite="the dictionary"> illiterate: adjective 1. unable to read and write I'm confused as to the basis for the accusation that Wyatt-Socal is illiterate based on the definition of the word 'illiterate'. Oh wait, is this a legal term? In that case, it… Read more »
Yawn!!!!
GFY
Dear Smegma,
When an interlocutor can't even spell a simple word like "reasonable", one can reasonably question their literacy. Just as one could read your writings and reasonably surmise that you are a slave to the violent ravages of low self-esteem, and have thus latched onto one of many fundamentalist belief systems. A pity, that.
Ann
Hi Ann! Sorry, I can't think of a response for you that doesn't include the word 'retard', so I'll skip it. Since I'm here though, I will say that you are a nasty, vindictive person. I still wonder why you are here, but I've already asked, so we won't hoe the same row twice, ok? Your assertion that a person who misspells a word is illiterate is totally asinine, and has no basis in reality. Some of the smartest people I know simply aren't worth a shit at spelling. Actually, I do have a question for you today. Who knows,… Read more »
C.MUNRO…
Actually I have a pretty satisfying life. Self made business owner, I built and live off what I started and made thrive. Free to do what I want on my piece of the state. Shoot, swim, hunt…
I just like to stop by here every once in a while to satisfy my comedy cravings and laugh at the idiot ramblings of you clowns.
Ann, thank you for your response, and taking time to type out my whole nickname! smeg IS actually short for smegma, which my friends gave to me as a nickname from a combination of: my name being meg, a spinal tap joke, and a birthday gift from a porn shop. unfortunately i can't agree with your 'low-self esteem' assessment of me, cause i'm kick arse 😉 i can however admit that i am a human, just as susceptible to propaganda as any other. while i believe my morals to be my own, i could have been fooled into thinking that…… Read more »
What business would that be? I'm sure people would love to ostracize your business knowing how violent and angry you are about peaceful people living freely.
You may be upset about your masters abuse of your life, but don't blame innocent people – they did nothing to you, why do you hate them so much?
Poor LP, Sad to say, debate with you is akin to the proverbial shooting of fish in a barrel: "Most ‘liberty activists’ are just individual people who want to be left to make their own choices for themselves regarding their wealth, bodies, etc." Typical Freekeener talking point idiocy, in this case positing the absurd idea that the absolute and total independence of human actions is possible, and that a person's single-minded pursuit of his/her own wishes should always remain unrestrained. Or if you do think there are instances where such restraint is necessary, who decides, and how is said restraint… Read more »
What would you say to an agorist like me who doesn't act out publicly and believes in black market activities? I don't hurt anyone and I respect property rights; should I have violence acted against me? And I think I can answer your question on statism. You are a statist if you believe in a monopoly government, or, a situation where one organization has sole control over an area and uses violence to prevent competition, regardless of what its business involves. There are Ron Paul style libertarian folk that talk about getting rid of 95% of the current government functions,… Read more »
that explains AnAmazedReader's comments here!
who shoots fish in a barrel? you already got the fish into a barrel, why shoot it? all that does is ruin your fish dinner.
then again, those who love to torture for tortures sake might find appeal in it.
shooting fish in barrels… a long enjoyed past time of sadists and cartoon hillbillies.
I am amazed that ann is still here full of hate, if you are convinced that we are stupid why waste your time posting here?
Maybe it's because you worship the state and the law?
Tell all your friends (if you have any) and your parents about this site ann, so they can read your comments.
@Smeg wrote: "what i’m not okay with, is someone telling me my morals are wrong, their morals are right, and punishing me for not believing the same as them." By this "logic", sanctions for engaging in religiously-based human sacrifice are illegitimate, because they would punish the "sacrificers" for acting on their sacred beliefs. How about religious/culturally-based honor killings? And of course one could easily compile a very long list indeed, at various levels of gravity across a large spectrum. Look, it's clear that you're not very curious or "well-exercised" intellectually, and that thinking through things is not your strong suit;… Read more »
"By this “logic”, sanctions for engaging in religiously-based human sacrifice are illegitimate, because they would punish the “sacrificers” for acting on their sacred beliefs." Yes. It may surprise you to know that there exist people in this world that don't want to run other people's lives and whatever rituals they want to participate in they are welcome to, as long as nobody is being forced to participate in them. My religion is my religion. Unfortunately, your religion (statism) is basically you and your cult telling me what to do, which you have no right to do. I'm not saying you… Read more »
'…positing the absurd idea that the absolute and total independence of human actions is possible, and that a person’s single-minded pursuit of his/her own wishes should always remain unrestrained. Or if you do think there are instances where such restraint is necessary, who decides, and how is said restraint enforced? Now it’s your turn to come up with an utterly fantastical non-solution.' Such restraint is only necessary in cases where someone is violating the rights of another without provocation. Otherwise, the watch words are 'Leave people the hell alone, Ann' '…“At what does a person become a so-called Statist?” (you… Read more »
And stop picking on meg, you're prolly just pissed cuz she's cuter than you are
lol
Talk about stupid laws-would you need a hunting or fishing license to shoot fish in a barrel? And yes,why shoot them if they are already in the barrel,you will just ruin the barrel.And it is nice to see that XrazorwireX is a fellow agoristit really frees one up to realise you can be free by living in the statist world as little as possible.Although I have to admit [confess?] to random acts of sabotage when they arise.I suppose that may be why the more public displays get to me-if they know who you,then they know who you are! —bil
Let's not have any relevant comments on here, OK? I want you all to just engage in name-calling, insults, and slurs, regardless of their relevancy to anything outside yourselves…///…Far as I know, this is the first time we've seen Howard B. Lane, jr., in action in Kangaroo court. He's much more competent than Burke, & can actually feign judicial temperment for 1/2 hour, even 1 hour at a time…How many objections did he over-rule, Sam? Did he rule in your favor on *ANY* of them? I didn't think so. It may be clearer in the short video – I'm assuming… Read more »
When I move to Keene I'm starting a black market guild in a basement somewhere. It's not too revolutionary but you gotta start somewhere; maybe I'll get to the point where you can buy a car or something like that off me, no paper trail / taxes.
Is the video provided from the court or sam? If it was sam's video camera how did he get it in there?
Can someone tell me why Sam's license was revoked by the State of Texas? DUI? Non-payment of a fine? Too many points? This seems like a very relevant part of the whole ordeal.
Mothy,
The video is by me. Sam also had a camera in there.
How did we get them in? Carry them.
If you're asking why they were allowed, cameras have always been allowed IN court if we filed motions in advance. The lobby is still off limits if juveniles are around.
Also, if Sam knew his license was going to be revoked in a week for 4 months it makes a little more sense why he was so content to sit in jail as those weeks ticked by while not having a valid license.
License, license, license. Where was his permission from the masters to travel?
Meh
Amazed, You're intellectually bankrupt and dishonest. You still have not my questions here: http://freekeene.com/2009/08/14/courtroom-disobed… yet despite your utter inability to defend your belief system, you feel the need to continue to toss cheap insults and make snap psychological judgments of others. It is interesting that you use the word "fundamentalist" as an insult, which Webster defines as: "a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles". It's quite appropriate, since you apparently have no principles at all. Thank goodness for those fundamentalist abolitionists, who were able to look at a society based on slavery… Read more »
Just fucking COMPLY why don't you. Goddammit Sam, look how uncomfortable those bureaucrats are, don't you feel bad?
FEEL BAD? For a bunch of bureaucraps??? Hey, pay-back is a bitch! I'm sure it was just a coincidence, but this morning, I saw Howard B. Lane, jr., in a local convenience store. I said, "Hi, Howard!"…I can't read his mind (it's closed!…), but I think he is both ashamed and embarassed to see me. At least, that's what I hope!…(you know, Sam, you did have old Howard reeling back into the ropes a few times. Wouldn't take much "coaching", to go in the legal ring and *KICK ASS*!…Seriously!
XRAZORWIREX-I already have one of those running here-also in Vt.The MV rules are real easy to get around.No taxes if you work it right. —bil
Sounds like alot of fun, bil.
Actually it is-although I do it more for fun than profit.Stretching the rules to the breaking point.It is like the rule about paying taxes-it is the duty of everyone to ensure that you don't pay any more taxes than nessessary.It just depends who does the defining! —bil
I think Jay's questions deserve more attention and require an answer from Sam if he wants support. I don't know enough about the circumstances around the revoking of the license so I don't know exactly what Sam was hoping to accomplish when I'm pretty sure he was aware of the revoking and why. If I were the judge, I would have tossed the case out as a waste of my time and sent Sam on his way because I don't see what a revoked Texas DL has to do with driving in new hampshire and maybe that was the point… Read more »
Thomas Pynchon made the quite cogent observation that if you get people asking the wrong questions, the answers are truly meaningless. The question that deserves the MOST attention and requires an answer BEFORE taking up the minutiae of the case is why, in a land whose motto is "Live free or die" we tolerate 'bears' who claim non-existent 'authority' ("All men are created equal…") and maul people who have harmed no one, but had the temerity to disobey their 'servant' masters. Give me the answer to THAT question, friend Observer, and then we can see if there is any relevance… Read more »