Keene’s Motorhome Diaries Crew Arrested and Imprisoned

MHDIt went down this morning in Jones County, MS. Jason Talley posted this to MHD’s Twitter:

“We are in Jones County MS and @adammueller has been arrested for filming cops after they pulled us over.”
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Later, other posts to Jason’s facebook page revealed they were all arrested. After asking for details and hearing nothing, I called the Jones County Jail at 601-649-7502 and confirmed they have all been imprisoned.

Adam Mueller – Disorderly Conduct and Disobeying an Officer
Pete Eyre – Possession of a Beer in a Dry County
Jason Talley – Disorderly Conduct, Disobeying, and Resisting Arrest

The bureaucrats at the jail think they will be arraigned tomorrow, so if you live in Jones County, MS, you may want to show up to offer your help and support.

More as we know it on FTL tonight and here at Free Keene. Hopefully the guys will be out to tell their story soon at MotorHomeDiaries.com

Update 5/15: They are out.

  • http://jailedactivist.info bile

    But if you crack wise to his deputies, he isn’t going to have any sympathy for what happens to you next, nor should he have any. You have the right to remain silent, to have an attorney appointed, any statements you make . . . yada, yada. But you also have the LEGAL OBLIGATION to obey the lawful orders or request of the officers.

    Was telling Adam to turn off his camera a lawful order? Was deleting the footage and removing evidence of an encounter a legal action? What wise was being cracked? What evidence do you have that they acted out of the realm of their constitutionally protected rights?

  • Zeus

    What if the orders they give aren't lawful? Then what?

    As for obligations, legal or otherwise, how did they get that obligation? Did they sign a contract promising to obey? Because if they did, they'd be in breach of that contract and I'd agree. But if there's no contract or agreement of any kind, there's no obligation to do anything. Then it's just about angry badge-heavy men pointing guns or tasers at you and spraying you in the face with pepper spray because "you ain't respectin' their authoritah".

    That ain't about The Law. That's about power, control and Ego.

  • http://n/a Black Prince

    What evidence do you have that they acted out of the realm of their constitutionally protected rights?

    _____

    It isn't up to the law dogs to prove they acted correctly. It's up to those arrested to prove they did not. Right now you have defendents saying that they were abused. Maybe they were and maybe they were not. It's a he said, they said situation and that is what judges and juries are for.

    I can tell you if this comes before a Jones County jury, they are going to believe the law dogs. Jones County juries know the sheriff's department does not go around picking on people. They know people who let their mouths over load their ashes ALWAYS claim police brutality. They ALWAYS claim their rights were violated as an excuse for what they did.

    That may fly on either of the coasts of this nation, or in Washington D.C., but it isn't going to fly in Jones County. We've heard it all before. We didn't believe it then and we don't believe it now.

    These guys came through here with an attitude. For whatever reason, the law dogs pulled them over. They made wise cracks to the law dogs, refused to provide proper indentification, and pulled out a camera. The law dogs in Jones County have no patience for that, and none of the rest of us who live here do either.

    If you mouth off here, you had better be able to back it up or somebody is going upside your head with something hard, or, if they just don't want to get the uniform mussed up, they are going to hose you down with mace. They have ways to adjust that big city bad attitude. Just don't come aroung here crying about it when it happens. We don't want to hear it.

    ———-

    "As for obligations, legal or otherwise, how did they get that obligation?"

    ———–

    All citizens have the legal obligation to obey lawful orders by law enforcement. Where have you been? You are obviously the product of a public school eductaion. Mississippi schools teach pupils to obey the law. If your buddies had been taught that, and obeyed that, they wouldn't be in the pickle they are in now. Freedom has its limits. You can't go around telling law dogs to get bent and if you do that in Jones County, somebody is going to get bent and it is probably going to be you.

  • http://jailedactivist.info bile

    Seems to me obvious that removing evidence of an accused crime is an unlawful act. It's at least immoral.

    The only attitude they came through was that government officials are often abusive. Looks like Jones County officers proved them right. Most of the charges were dropped and those that stand are there simple because they need to justify arresting them in the first place.

  • Zeus

    I see your "law dogs" and raise you a trio of "freedom piranhas".

  • http://n/a Black Prince

    It's always a SUPRISE when the real world jumps up and smacks you in the mouth isn't it? One of the best places outside of Texas that I know of that will do that is Jones County, Mississippi, but you can say that about almost ALL of the old south.

    Look fellas, I wasn't there and don't know the facts, but neither were you. But I live here and I know some of the sheriff deputies. I go to church with two of them. They are nice guys. Both are black and THEY KNOW all about police abuse because they lived under it when Jim Crow was around here. They will BE THE LAST ONES to do anything like what is aleged here.

    I have been stopped by all of the various law dogs from the highway patrol (really you don't want to mess with in Mississippi) the Sheriff's Dept, the constable and the city cops. All have been civil and even polite. But I do what they say and am not argumentative. I don't disrespect them and even though I am usually older, always address then as sir or mamm. It is expected in the south and it is common courtesy here for everyone no matter who you are.

    When I travel into other states and get pulled over by their law dogs, I am ALWAYS super courteous to them. Just show them that you are who you say you are and that you are doing what you say you are doing. Don't get anxious or uptight because that is an immediate profile thing that will trigger their attention on you. And DO NOT get out with a dam camera!!

    This is all common sense to those with any brains at all. It's just that this isn't common sense in many parts of our nation any more. If you don't have any common sense, you ought to stay home.

    It's your call, but when you get smart with the law dogs around here, you just handed them the ball so be ready for what comes next. But if I were any of you, I would either avoid Jones County, or be nice when I am there. Oh, and even though it is a photogenic area, leave the camera and any attitude in the motorhome and get out with your ID in your hand because that is probably the first thing they are goiong to ask for. If you have it, most of the time you are home free. if you don't have it or show it, get ready to go down town to the jail..

  • Dan Patrick

    I don't see where any of the MHD guys were being impolite. In every video of Pete's interactions with police officers, he's always been respectful.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PDqIMvJXdY&fe

    If the guys were planning on being rude to the officers then why would they have insisted on filming the encounter to "make sure everyone is accountable"?

    Black Prince, I know you're new here but we're all experienced in the realm of law, politics, and action. We're choosing to take these actions because we know that electoral politics and the sham of a justice system have failed. When the good officers of the South were ordering blacks to sit at the back of the bus and standing in the way of black students from integrating, should they have just prostrated themselves before the law? Or was it heroes like Martin Luther King Jr and Rosa Parks that stood in defiance of the law that catalyzed social change?

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Ah yes "Black Prince". You'd better bootlick the cops, not stand up for any of your rights, and be a good little serf, otherwise you'll get shot or thrown in a cage. That's very American of you. Liberty, freedom, rights? Who needs them?

    Sounds like a bunch of violent cowardly scumbags you have for cops.

    Apparently in your disgusting distortion of Christianity, if someone tries to videotape you, or has a beer can, you throw them in a cage, if someone doesn't put their own hands behind their back for you, you pepper spray them, and if someone reaches into their pocket, and has an accent you don't like, you shoot them.

    Real Christ-like attitude you have there. I can just see Christ pepper spraying someone because they didn't say "sir".

    Myself, I don't pepper spray people, throw people in a cage, or kill them, when they don't lick my boots. You see, I respect the rights of my fellow man. I actually want to live in a free country, and have no interest in being a petty tyrant, like your cops.

    If it were up to you, we'd still be boot-licking the redcoats. "Yes Mister Redcoat. Whatever you want Mr. Redcoat! You know I do whatever my masters tell me, Mr. Redcoat. I just love how you shoot anyone who gives you lip, Mr. Redcoat"

  • http://n/a Black Prince

    Black Prince, I know you’re new here but we’re all experienced in the realm of law, politics, and action. We’re choosing to take these actions because we know that electoral politics and the sham of a justice system have failed. When the good officers of the South were ordering blacks to sit at the back of the bus and standing in the way of black students from integrating, should they have just prostrated themselves before the law? Or was it heroes like Martin Luther King Jr and Rosa Parks that stood in defiance of the law that catalyzed social change?

    ________

    That was 40+ years ago. That was BEFORE most of you were born. I am 67 years old and as black as the inside of a cow. What do you think I have been doing all those years? Do you think I am not experienced with the law?

    I worked for Charles Pickering when he was Jones County Prosecutor. I carried a gun and a badge in Jones County for 27 years. I LIVED those things that you think you know all about and I saw what the politicians did to the most upright, honest, good man I've ever met when he was appointed to the 5 Th Circuit Court. They lied about his record and no one in the media went so far as to check it out to see the truth.

    His life, and the lives of his family, was in constant jeopardy for YEARS in Jones County because of what he did to right the wrongs being done in civil rights. Sam Bowers, whom I also knew very well, and the KKK had an open contract on him and he NEVER knew when he drove down some county road that a load of buckshot wasn't going to come through the windshield. His cattle were shot standing in their pasture and his prized bird dogs were poisoned. He and his family received constant threats and all hours of the night.

    It wasn’t the black people who changed the south and Jim Crow; it was white people like Charlie Pickering because they were the only ones with the power to do it. If it were not for MANY white men all across the south like him, we would still have Jim Crow. Martin King gave it national attention, but it was men like Pickering that actually did the dangerous work in county courthouses all across the south and every one of them paid a high price for doing it. Charlie is STILL paying a high price for having done the right thing under great duress and he get’s absolutely no respect for it. It’s no wonder more people don’t want to stick their necks out to do the right thing if these men are an example of how the public rewards them for doing it.

    Don't lecture me on the law you arrogant know-it-all. That is the problem here: you guys think you know all about this and what happened. You are young Turks and you are invincible. There is nothing like coming face to face with a Jones County law dog in any if their versions, to wipe that smirk off your face and most of them are going to be black now days so don’t even think about yelling discrimination or police abuse. That dog will not hunt here anymore. It’s only in places like you are obviously from who don’t know what has changed here. Don’t even come around here trying that worn out reference to the bad old south and all the wrongs done back then. It is long gone and everyone here knows it except you.

    I’ll leave this discussion with this, you guys should either stay out of the south, or you should learn some manners. Manners and courtesy are the grease of civilization as my grandmother used to say; they make things work smoothly, and she was right. Manners will get you much further than an attitude any day, and manners may help you avoid going to jail.

    Paul, I will pray for you. But I am not going to be held responsible for what you do; only for what I do. YOU are going to have to answer for what you do and I am confident that God will judge you fairly.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Prince,

    I appreciate your role in segregationist south. I am grateful for your efforts, and the efforts of all who worked to end the evil of jim crow. We all owe them our thanks, for wiping that awful stain from this country. I am always impressed with people who risk their personal safety in order to stand up for their rights, and fight injustice, like MLK, rosa parks, and many others throughout this country who have not received their level of recognition.

    I agree that each person is responsible for what they do. What I am saying is that it is immoral to use violence against someone because they are disrespectful. Also, many of the things you refer to as disrespectful are not so at all — videotaping for example. Public officials should be held accountable.

    What I am saying is, it's wrong to use violence on someone who has not harmed anyone — to pepper spray, jail, or shoot a person who has not committed any act of violence is evil behavior. Don't you agree? My moral beliefs certainly wouldn't allow me to use violence in this way, and I absolutely would consider it a violation of Christ's teachings.

  • Michael Garcia

    It's funny that this black prince fellow is protecting and defending the moral character of the violent thugs in his area police force and condemning the non violent behavior of our friends at the motor home diary. It's sad that he came from the civil rights era where brave activists were battling a truly dangerous battle and now advocates and defends thuggery now that "his," people are in charge.

    That's why I believe many people that hold onto the liberty philosophy reject working through the system because they know what happens when people acquire the monopoly use of violence.

  • AnarchoJesse

    BlackPrince, the Lord your God and Savior demanded that you hold Him as King, and follow His only Son on earth, the Prince of Peace, as the only rulers of your life.

    You've propped up these idols of policemen and politicians, and you've evidently forgotten God, and His infinite Love, which He wisely decided to share with all of Creation.

    These kings on earth are damaging your relationship with the Lord, a relationship that is supposed to be built on Peace and Love, and shared with the rest of Creation. The Lord warns us of such associations– 2 Corinthians 6:14- Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.

    Not only that, but 1 Samuel warns us hold of holding kings before God– 1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel: 'Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee; for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not be king over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, in that they have forsaken Me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. Now therefore hearken unto their voice; howbeit thou shalt earnestly forewarn them, and shalt declare unto them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.'

    Tread carefully, because you seem to be leaving the path that God in His infinite wisdom has laid out for all of His children.

  • http://alongsidenight.ar.to/ Jim Davidson

    "i wish you all the best of luck in your pursuit of 'liberty'."

    We don't need your wishes, "voice of reprehension" we make our own liberty. Luck is just another foolish superstition. Go to the devil, you slack mouthed lily livered authoritarian filth.

  • http://alongsidenight.ar.to/ Jim Davidson

    "You be respectful and civil and if you get smart, you go to jail and that is where you ought to be."

    No, that's wrong, that's evil, and it is also mistaken.

    Rather, the cops can be respectful and civil or they can be killed. There's no reason to treat cops like anything but highway robbers. There's no sense to being polite and courteous to them, and get pepper sprayed just the same. Your authoritarian attitude is disgusting.

    The people do not serve the police. The police, allegedly, are there to respect, serve, and protect the people. If this point is no longer clear, then why shouldn't people simply run the cops down, shoot them in the face as soon as they approach, etc.?

    There is no contract here. There is no agreement. There is only the offer of civility. Your pigs pepper sprayed our friend without provocation. So, I say, next time I'm in Jones County, I won't give them the benefit of the doubt.

    I travel in a deadly weapon – a car can move very rapidly. I carry deadly weapons. And I am a deadly weapon. Your police depend on the kindness of strangers and our forebearance. Tell me I belong in jail, and I'll tell you exactly what your pigs can expect.

  • Zeus

    Violence only begets more violence, Jim. That path only leads to self-destruction.

  • http://alongsidenight.ar.to/ Jim Davidson

    "Maybe hapless strangers ought to mind their manners when they wonder off the road in Hooterville and for SURE, they had dam well better do it in Jones County or they are going to JAIL."

    Listen, filthy authoritarian whore, our friends didn't wander off the road. They were on the Interstate.

    Don't close the interstate, let us come to you, in force. You live in a wood house? You might think about being less antagonistic.

  • Dan Patrick

    Jim, you're one scary mofo.

  • http://alongsidenight.ar.to/ Jim Davidson

    Why thank you, Zeus, how considerate of you to mention.

    And whose life is it that I'm on a path to destroy? Mine, right?

    Everyone has choices to take, Zeus. You choose for you, I'll choose for me.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    I also do not approve of violence.

  • Lpviper

    Jim is right. And Jim will probably die at the hands of armed thugs wearing fancy costumes. And as he says, it is his choice.

    I can think of an example when I was traveling the interstate in my RV and it broke down. I got it off the e-way but unfortunately ended up in a median on a two lane state highway. It was a bad spot, but the van was dead and it wasn't gonna move. A local cop pulled up behind us, gave us the light show, and started harrassing my wife and my mother-in-law in the back of the van. Then he came up front to start in on me, where I was busily ripping electrical parts out of the engine bay to go have them checked. This guy comes up to me and says 'Sir! Sir! You can't have your van parked here! Sir! You need to move your van!' Well, I was already in a pissy mood (obviously) so I wheeled on this jerk and yelled in his face, 'Well, SIR, the van won't start and it isn't going anywhere! So either MAKE A USEFUL SUGGESTION or LEAVE ME ALONE!!' Dick move right? Prolly get tased, right? Nope. Dude instantly changed his whole tune, apologized to me, and PUSHED my RV with his police cruiser to the parts store! When he was done, he asked if he could please look at my ID because he smashed in the front of his car on my tow hitch. I agreed because dude was obviously gonna hear it.

    Moral of the story is, bending over and playing kissy ass isn't necessarily gonna get you anywhere. Sometimes acting like you're a man and you have a pair will help you more. (Don't be offended, ladies, you have a pair too, just a different pair)

    I don't like violence either, and I have no plans to use it unless in self defense, but more people who are just plumb fed up like Jim might make the cops think a little more about the way they treat people, you know? And I think the way the cops are going, and the way they are taking to treating people, the more people will end up feeling like Jim does. There is no way to stop this, and decrying it and getting all faint over it ain't gonna change it.

    Jim, think about your family before you go on the offensive. That's all I ask. And if they took your family from you and you've nothing to lose, may God help them, because I know you won't.

    Thanks

    Andy

  • Zeus

    Then again, maybe Jim or you or whomever is an Agent Provocateur, attempting to instigate violence in order to satiate their hunger to beat, tase and kill us all in a witch hunt? How the hell does any of us know?

    So I recommend peaceful resistance until the time for peace is done. Each man decides that for himself. For me, now ain't the time. If you, however, want to die in hail of gunfire and help them smear us all due to your behavior, that's your prerogative.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    Good story, Lpviper

    Although he almost certainly won't hear me, I want to say thanks to that cop — who seems to be a real public servant, and those who are like him.

    P.S. I absolutely do not believe in any violence.

  • Lpviper

    Yeah, pretty good for an 'Agent Provocateur', eh?

    Easy, Zeus. You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar.

    Another funny aside: I said that to somebody one day and he said, 'Oh yeah? Well, I betcha you'll catch more flies with shit than either of those!'

    That really made me think

  • Lpviper

    And Zeus, I said I don't condone violence, and I don't, but I know what that anger feels like. I felt it again today when I saw that picture of Sam in the Sentinel.

    Self defense only. Self defense only. I have to repeat it to myself because I am a creature of emotion, as are we all, and I thought I presented the idea clearly above.

    However, no matter how clearly an idea is given, there will be those for whom the pain is too great, and they will lash out. I cannot condemn these people, I can only give them love and compassion and try to talk them out of it.

    Thanks

    Oh, and I forgot to mention that I appreciate what you do for liberty and I am a loyal listener and viewer of Free Minds content. Keep up the good work!

  • Jacob

    Black Prince has got to be one of the better and more dedicated trolls I've ever seen on the internet.

    Bravo, sir. Bravo.

    To the rest of you: Stop replying to what he's saying. He's being a dipshit on purpose, and solely because he wants to get a rise out of you. Don't get your panties in a bunch over a guy who pretends to be an idiot.

  • Yizmo Gizmo

    So what happened with the charges?

    Are they all gone and if the charges were so

    insubstantial as to crumble into thin air why isn't the sanctimoniuos DA

    filing false arrest chrages against those cops?

    You can't be a tough-on-crime county

    unless you also go after corrupt police.

  • http://jailedactivist.info bile

    They dropped all but one charge per individual. You can read about it on the MHD website: http://motorhomediaries.com

  • Roger Hermann

    These thug cops should be the ones in jail. It seems the good people of Mississippi are suffering with these Gestopo like morons. Hopefully the Sheriff will end up with a law suit and in the unemployment line or prision where enemies of Liberty belong.

  • Rob Andrews

    I'm a pretty staunch libertarian (and Libertarian), and I have openly stated that some civil rights violation took place in this incident as best I can tell based on the available facts.

    However, I seriously doubt that the law enforcement officers involved knowingly/intentionally violated laws or intended to deprive these guys of their civil liberties.

    I've encountered a lot of law enforcement officers in Mississippi in my over thirty years as a resident here. By and large, I have found the vast majority of them to be pretty straight-forward individuals with a service mentality.

    I believe in the cause of documenting and correcting abuses of our legal system, but am nowhere near calling the LEOs in Mississippi a bunch of jackbooted thugs.

    I hope we can help cultivate a system in which good cops on the beat can focus on the work of helping our society maintain a basic sense of order in which we can freely exercise our civil liberties without fear.

    Rob Andrews

    Communications Director, Libertarian Party of MS

  • Lpviper

    'However, I seriously doubt that the law enforcement officers involved knowingly/intentionally violated laws or intended to deprive these guys of their civil liberties.'

    I respect your position and your opinion, sir. But the statement above is, to me, fantastic. If these men are that ignorant or stupid then they do not need to be in the job they're in.

    I suspect, however, that they knew damn well what they were doing

  • Rob Andrews

    I agree that whether willfully/knowingly or ignorantly, they did something wrong in this process, as I've stated frankly in a few posts.

    The meat of what I was trying to convey in my last post was that I hope the tenor of our ongoing discussion be healthy and productive.

  • http://ringingliberty.com Paul

    I agree with not attributing the actions of these cops to all those from Mississippi. However, in your rush to moderate sounding rhetoric do not sacrifice the truth.

    These cops assaulted, pepper sprayed, falsely arrested, and abused the person and property of three people who had not harmed anyone. On that day, they showed themselves to be jack booted thugs, and they deserve to not only be fired for it, but personally sued.

    We have no lack of people in this country who are willing to parlay with evil to appear politically correct. We have a lack of people willing to speak the plain honest truth. These men were highwaymen, thieves, and kidnappers, and if anything, their imagined self-righteousness makes it worse. The badge gives these men a special responsibility to help and protect the innocent, not a special exemption from the moral law which applies to each of us.

  • Rob Andrews

    Yes, the actions you describe are unconscionable and should be vigorously addressed.

    All law enforcement officers are bound not only by basic morality but by oath to defend us with badge and gun, not to use them against us.

    I openly support administrative and legal action.

    My urge that opponents of civil liberties violations represent their points of view in the best possible light should not be misunderstood as bowing to injustice in any way.

  • http://libertytiger.blogspot.com LibertyTiger

    "However, I seriously doubt that the law enforcement officers involved knowingly/intentionally violated laws or intended to deprive these guys of their civil liberties."

    Rob, I'm from Memphis and I've had plenty of experience with MS law enforcement. Perhaps they do have a "service mentality" when dealing with "suit-and-tie", church-going, State-bowing Mississippians. But the fact is, if you're young, black, or an outsider you're very likely to be treated with disrespect or even violence. The fact that a law enforcement officer wouldn't "knowingly" violate someone's liberties is hardly a defense. They certainly wouldn't give me the benefit of the doubt if I didn't know all their silly rules about dry counties and traveling with firearms. Knowing the law and what citizen's rights are is part of their fucking job. If they're ignorant of the law or rights they should be retrained or fired. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, even for a law enforcement officer.

  • Ranger

    I find it odd that the people who are always whining about being videotaped by "big brother" find it useful when it suits their purposes. As to who erased the video I can't help but wonder if maybe these three guys erased it themselves because it was self incriminating.

    Being from Mississippi I just want to say "Yall come back now ya hear"!!!

  • Dan Patrick

    Ranger, They're going through a process to have the video restored using technical data recovery methods.

    I'm pretty sure that you can see the difference in the government using surveillance to invade a person's privacy and a group of documentarians or the press videoing the procedures of government agents.

  • Ranger

    Yes Dan I know the difference. I don't think being a documentarian gives you any special rights when you are stopped by the police. I don't like either very much. You know what's funny is that Mississippi is actually one of the most free states in the country in gun laws, worker rights, education and anything you can think of. But these bozo's seem to want to paint us as the opposite. I think all this is grandstanding for the sake of publicity sothey can sell a stupid documentary and make money and be famous. where are these guys from anyhow?

  • Zeus

    Actually, Mississippi comes in 22nd on personal freedom but 30th on economic freedom according to the recent Mercatus Center report on Freedom in the 50 States.

  • Dan Patrick

    Ranger, I doubt that fame-chasing is the case. If it's the case then they're taking a really round-about way of getting there because they've got a resume as long as your arm of activism in the liberty movement.

    I don't think that being a documentarian gives you special rights. I think that everyone has the right to record the police. In this country, that right is supposedly protected by the 1st Amendment. I also believe that people have an absolute right to arm themselves as is supposedly recognized in the 2nd Amendment, however even in a state like Mississippi there are more gun controls than I would like.

    I know Pete is from Virginia. Not sure about Jason and Adam.

    Since you're interested, I'm from Alabama.

  • Ranger

    I knew you had to be from the deep south. You seem to have more sanity and character than some of the nut cases I've read posting here. It's my first time. I've never heard of these guys. I'm from the area in question and It made me bristle a little when I heard about this on FOX. It just seemed very out of character for this area to have a cop do something like they are describing. In fact, the last time I was stopped in Jones County (for running a stop sign off the I-59 exit ramp) the officer not only didn't give me a ticket but requested that I pray for him at church that day! I'm serious! I was running late for church and told him so, but I was courteous and honest.

    I actually consider myself a libertarian but only of the Biblical sort. You know there is a difference between true liberty and anarchy. Some people here don't seem to know the difference or that there is a difference.

    I thought these guys were from Canada and was wondering why they wouldn't be worrying about taking issue there. Libertarian there is a buzz word for homosexual and I was suspicious that it might be here too.

  • Zeus

    "What we've got here is… failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it… well, he gets it."

  • Ranger

    I knew that post would bring em out the woodwork.

  • Dan Patrick

    Ranger, I don't remember who said it but there's a quote: "There might be two libertarians that agree on everything, but I'm not one of them."

    Like all thing, we're human and subject to the whims of human opinion. As long as we can agree that people should be free to do what they want so long as they don't harm anyone else, then we're on the right track.

    You might be interested in checking out a libertarian radio show, Free Talk Live. One of the hosts is the owner of this website. They're on 6 nights per week http://listen.freetalklive.com
    The concept of the show is that you can call and talk about anything. A lot of people here are listeners, but you'd be more than welcome to call in and give your thoughts.

    They're also on in Tupelo and Vickburg, but I'm not sure if you can get those in Jones County.

  • local

    Black Prince writes:

    " Do you think I am not experienced with the law?

    I worked for Charles Pickering when he was Jones County Prosecutor. I carried a gun and a badge in Jones County for 27 years. I LIVED those things that you think you know all about and I saw what the politicians did to the most upright, honest, good man I’ve ever met when he was appointed to the 5 Th Circuit Court. They lied about his record and no one in the media went so far as to check it out to see the truth.

    His life, and the lives of his family, was in constant jeopardy for YEARS in Jones County because of what he did to right the wrongs being done in civil rights. Sam Bowers, whom I also knew very well, and the KKK had an open contract on him and he NEVER knew when he drove down some county road that a load of buckshot wasn’t going to come through the windshield. His cattle were shot standing in their pasture and his prized bird dogs were poisoned. He and his family received constant threats and all hours of the night.

    It wasn’t the black people who changed the south and Jim Crow; it was white people like Charlie Pickering because they were the only ones with the power to do it. If it were not for MANY white men all across the south like him, we would still have Jim Crow. Martin King gave it national attention, but it was men like Pickering that actually did the dangerous work in county courthouses all across the south and every one of them paid a high price for doing it. Charlie is STILL paying a high price for having done the right thing under great duress and he get’s absolutely no respect for it. It’s no wonder more people don’t want to stick their necks out to do the right thing if these men are an example of how the public rewards them for doing it.

    Don’t lecture me on the law you arrogant know-it-all."

    Charles likely didn't bother you with his political responsibilities to the Bushes..

    Pickering was Jones Co. Attorney when the decision was made to not prosecute Sam for the murders of the three voting rights activists in Philadelhia Miss. Likewise when Vernon Dahmer was killed for registering Blacks to vote.

    As Federal Judge he protected the Jones Co. legal system by throwing out a case against them. Savannah Ramsey sued them for setting a dog on her inside the police station. His grounds was that she had not proven that the City(Laurel, capitol of JC) is responsible for the actions of an officer.

    He was a patriot protecting the good law officers. Good people who worked to protect those "brave freedom fighters"(Contras) by protecting the airplanes returning from Honduras after delivering non-lethal aid. Protecting the coke,

    I don't feel Reagan knew but certainly Oliver north, Daddy Bush did. We voters put these good leaders and their law in power.

    I agree that co-operating with a lawman is smart and talking to his honor will tend to bring it out. Their jobs depend on not violating the law. With them as with everybody I hope to appear as a good old nigger–someone who doesn't act like he's above other folks and has some years of experience

    Please respond, let's go to town where it's legal to possess a beer and have one