RAW VIDEO: Topless Equality Activist Arrested

August 23, 2009 by
Filed under: Copwatch, Hypocrisy, Issues, News, Police, Thuggery, Video 

Here’s the video containing Cassidy’s arrest for being female and topless in public. There are several videos of the scene in addition to this and all of them can be found on Free Keene Live.

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89 Comments on RAW VIDEO: Topless Equality Activist Arrested

  1. Atlas on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 4:41 pm

    Way to Cass!

  2. Renniks on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 4:48 pm

    Good going Cass! Glad they let you out and didn’t keep you in for the duration of the weekend.

  3. Jon on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 5:17 pm

    Way to go Cass. Now get 100 women and see if they arrest them all.

  4. Zeus on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 5:25 pm

    What’s tragic here is that the mental state of the State is so demented and obsessed with a desire to control others that they’d interpret “equality of freedom” not in letting peaceful people be free to do as they wish with their own bodies but to outlaw this act for all genders.

    “Oh, you don’t like it that we kidnap and cage women if they expose their chests eh? Fine. Now we’ll kidnap and cage the men too and double our revenue generation. Muahahahahah!”

    I wonder if there’s a law against the officer exposing his naked pate. That turns some people on so it must be some kind of sexual perversion. Someone better call the cops to do something about this before our moral fiber is shredded and society falls apart. Think of the children!

    In other news, gender-neutral burkas are now becoming highly-fashionable in America. Get yours NOW! Operators are standing by.

  5. revoke my freestate membership on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:15 pm

    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Just when you thought the freekeene group couldnt possibly act anymore childish, immature and delusional, they top themselves again!

    I am now convinced that there is really no hope left for this group. A reasonable public image and respect from the community is something that will never be achieved and failure is there obvious future.

    Official KOOK status for the freekeeners!

  6. The lord on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:21 pm

    More women should have pulled their shirts off at that moment they arrested her.

  7. specsaregood on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:24 pm

    “One of the most important purposes to be served by the equal protection clause is to ensure that ‘public sensibilities’ grounded in prejudice and unexamined sterotypes do not become enshrined as part of the official policy of government.”
    http://www.gotopless.org/news.php?item.3.1

  8. Mitch on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:28 pm

    The Ron Paul Forums are having some heated discussion on this if anybody wants to chime in and defend the activism – http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206977

  9. LSNL on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:31 pm

    re: REVOKE MY FREESTATE MEMBERSHIP

    Care to address any of the points made?

    Also, as far as I am concerned, there is no such “membership” to the FSP. If you’re referring to your NH “citizenship”, I’ll come help you move.

  10. Lpviper on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 6:51 pm

    revoke is an asstard who never had a membership and is probably another zany pseudonym for Ann.

    Cut it out Ann

  11. nick on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:01 pm

    I’ve seen two videos shot by Ian of this so far. I commend him for responsible camera work.

  12. Ian on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:11 pm

    Thanks, Nick. I’m not looking to pander. This was shot as news coverage.

    Julia was saying it would be fun to wear nipple colored pasties over her areola. Sounds like topless equality event #2 could be pretty interesting.

  13. Jeremy on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:34 pm

    I’m all for activism to smash state-erected barriers to equality. What was the result of this action? Was it successful, and if so what was its intended goal? Just curious what motivated people to choose this issue and this particular action.

    I don’t want to seem like a prude, but as an anarchist my personal inclination is to focus on building a popular movement to reject the state. I would not choose to participate in this act, but thanks to Cassidy for making it clear that she was not doing this on behalf of all anarchists or anything like that. More power to Keene.

  14. Russell Kanning on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:48 pm

    one of the bennies of this event will be to make some of the politically correct fsp members leave :)

    their crazy, they are zany, they are keeniacs :)

  15. Mike Gogulski on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:49 pm

    Jeremy: Slim short girls with bare titties are popular.

    Marketing, duh?

    Get a grip. Anyway, you can’t participate. You’re the wrong gender. Or something.

  16. charley hardman on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:52 pm

    even the anarchists are voting.

    funny as hell. thanks to whoever shot this (ian?) for not turning it into a “let’s stare at cassidy’s rack” diversion. well done.

    great to see women carrying. oh, and fuck the keene crime syndicate.

  17. Ian on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:58 pm

    Charley,

    It’s always pleasantly shocking to see you say positive things.

    Thanks! Yes, I was the videographer.

  18. Zeus on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 8:59 pm

    I’m all for activism to smash state-erected barriers to equality. What was the result of this action? Was it successful, and if so what was its intended goal? Just curious what motivated people to choose this issue and this particular action.

    Activist Goal: Bring attention to the gender inequality of the LAW when it comes to baring one’s chest.

    Statist response: Men can do it because their moobs don’t turn on other heterosexual men. If a woman does it, then we have to kidnap and cage her because, goshdarnit, you just can’t trust a man to keep it in his pants. Why, if it weren’t for the LAW *making* people wear clothes, nude people would be fornicating in the streets and society would crumble.

    Recommended Experiment: Have a very passable M2F transgender person bare her surgically-enhanced chest. The state considers her to be male and males can bare their chests according to the LAW so it should be fine, right?

    Expected Result: The state, which already believes society is just one step away from total chaos at any given moment, will determine that as long as an appendage of flesh is tantalizingly feminine, even heterosexually-inclined males will go so mad with uncontrollable lust that they’ll fornicate with the transgendered in the streets, thus causing societal collapse.

    Of course, this nonsense never applies to the ones who make these rules up. They’re always the exception to the rule and everyone else is unstable and prone to becoming crazed maniacs at the drop of a hat.

  19. bigmike on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 9:15 pm

    Way to go Cassidy. This needs a good follow up.

  20. Vix on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 9:22 pm

    WOW some of those posts on the Ron Paul Forums posted earlier are hate filled and not anyone I would ever want to be associated with.

  21. charley hardman on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 9:41 pm

    WOW some of those posts on the Ron Paul Forums posted earlier are hate filled and not anyone I would ever want to be associated with.

    given that most of them adore the 2008$3Million bandit of “peace”, keep those expectations low.

    not a surprise that no whining opponent of her action even mentioned the “public property” problem.

  22. Anton Lee on Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 9:47 pm

    I don’t really know what people got out of the Ron Paul movement. I know that I got the beginning on an inner path to being free. Some people learned new hatreds or new ways to get others to see their hatred.

    Cass was brave, she stood up. I’m left with questions. When will I? When will you?

  23. RevDebbie on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:38 am

    Gotopless.org had a list of cities hosting gotopless protests on Aug. 23rd on their website. I sent them an email with a link to the video of Cassidy’s protest and received the following response from them:

    “Whoaw!!! Please give Cassidy our full support!!! What a strong woman! Please ask her to contact us as soon as possible. We would like to report every step of her battle to change this law.

    Sincerely yours,

    Nadinamour
    President Gotopless”

    Cassidy, they want to hear from you! Here’s Nadinamour’s email address: nadinamour@gmail.com . And here is their website: http://www.gotopless.org/ .

  24. Paul on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 3:25 am

    As I said in the first forum discussion on this issue, I think this “activism” was stupid and counterproductive, but to each his/her own.

    It is certainly true that if the roads were private property, as they should be, it wouldn’t be an issue. It would be up to the road owner to decide what to allow, and if a person didn’t like the policies of a particular road provider, they’d be free to patronize a different one.

    As it is, everyone is forced to pay for and effectively forced to use the current road monopoly system, and so conflicts along these lines will always arise.

  25. Puke on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 7:54 am

    The “Keene activists” as people label us are like the litmus test of the movement.

    Our silly actions help get rid of the useless cry-babies of the movement.

  26. Phssthpok on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 8:18 am

    It is NOT a violation of the NH statute for a woman to be topless:

    645:1 Indecent Exposure and Lewdness. –
    I. A person is guilty of a misdemeanor if such person fornicates, exposes his or her genitals, or performs any other act of gross lewdness under circumstances which he or she should know will likely cause affront or alarm.

    This is sexual discrimination pure and simple. The officers involved should be tried for criminal violations of Title 18 sections 241 and 242 USC.

    See also :

    New Hampshire Statutes
    TITLE LXII CRIMINAL CODE

    Section 629:3 Conspiracy
    Section 631:2-a Simple Assault
    Section 631:4 Criminal Threatening
    Section 633:1 Kidnapping
    Section 633:2 Criminal Restraint
    Section 633:3 False Imprisonment
    Section 643:1 Official Oppression

  27. SnowDog on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 8:38 am

    “I’ve seen two videos shot by Ian of this so far. I commend him for responsible camera work.”

    Ironic! I thought the purpose of the demonstration was to emphasize that there is no difference between men and women; and that it’s of no consequence, and not irresponsible to show or view women’s breasts.

    “Thanks, Nick. I’m not looking to pander. This was shot as news coverage. ”

    Even the supports of this event think it’s pandering…

  28. Ian on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 9:03 am

    Shooting her breasts would have distracted from what she was saying, and would likely have disqualified the video from Youtube.

    If it’s any consolation, I wouldn’t have focused on a man’s penis if he was doing a full-nude protest. It’s simply not necessary to the video content.

  29. adam on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 9:41 am

    Lets see here…let her be free in her own skin she was born with. Or throw here in a cage?

    How is this any different than making a woman cover her legs and face?

    It is disturbing how violent people will be towards others just because they dont want to see nipples.

  30. B on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 12:38 pm

    I support Cassidy in what she’s doing as well as all of those activists who are pushing for true freedom. However, I would like to give the following food for thought… and I’m sure there will be those who disagree.

    Please focus the in-depth legal questions on the laws on those responsible for their creation and judgement thereof (i.e. judges, lawyers, any other bureaucratic public position of office), not on the officers themselves. They’re charged with enforcement of the law and on-site interpretation. They are not lawyers. They put their lives on the line every day to protect others for very little compensation (I know this becuase I was pursuing a LEO career for a while). They don’t become officers for the money. They do it to protect others (MOST of them do, there are a couple of bad seeds out there, don’t judge all by the actions of the few). The officers are not the enemy, it’s the judges, lawyers and lawmakers, etc.

  31. thinkliberty on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:15 pm

    Who will save us from the American Taliban?

    Not the police. They just do as they are told, like good little pigs. Give them the taxpayers slop and they will do what ever you want them to do. — Like kidnapping little girls. (as this video shows)

    Not the military — they don’t fight or die for freedom in america.

    Look like the Anarchist are the only fighting the American Taliban.

  32. charley hardman on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:24 pm

    They’re charged with enforcement of the law and on-site interpretation.

    the usual nuremberg defense (“not my fault; it’s my ‘job’ to be an asshole”) crock of shit. they aren’t charged with anything; they do it 100% willingly.

    They put their lives on the line every day to protect others for very little compensation

    it was only recently that the badged criminals in the goonited states even cracked the top ten highest fatality rate occupations (at #10). when computed using an hours-based method, they get right back out. according to the fedgoon BLS, trashmen have more dangerous jobs. at least do your sanctimonious selfless “sacrificial” dance for them first… then fishermen, loggers, aircraft pilots and flight engineers, structural iron and steel workers, farmers and ranchers, roofers, electrical power workers, and truck drivers. all of those jobs have higher fatality rates than the psychos you worship. your pet pro sadists are nearly tied by cab drivers and construction workers.

    far from being saints, badged criminals self-select into those goon jobs because they get off on pushing others around with impunity. that is their reward. oh, and they get paid via stolen wealth and the racket they enforce.

    (I know this becuase I was pursuing a LEO career for a while).

    self-stamped psycho. shut your disgusting worthless trap.

  33. Matthew on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:25 pm

    B,

    I don’t understand how it’s more respectful of the cops to treat them as mindless, law-enforcing automata instead of intelligent beings who possess their own reasoning abilities, value systems, and self-determination.

  34. Mark Herpel on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:35 pm

    I’ve seen that girl dancing at the club next to the airport under the name Tiffany! Someone needs to buy here some implants.

    This is the most pathetic attempt at getting noticed I’ve ever seen, I feel sorry the Police have to waste their time on this garbage. Loser…..

    Mark

  35. Ian on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 1:54 pm

    Youtube has already removed one of the videos for a TOS violation.

    I have responded with the following email:

    The video you have disabled was a live news report of the scene of the arrest of a topless woman. It was shot specifically to not pander and any brief nudity is clearly not gratuitous, so I’d like to know more specifically why it was deemed inappropriate.

    I do not expect to hear back.

  36. Zeus on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 2:00 pm

    I feel sorry the Police have to waste their time on this garbage.

    They wouldn’t have to “waste their time on this garbage” if they weren’t out enforcing a bunch of dumb laws in the first place, now would they?

  37. AnAmazedReader on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 2:54 pm

    Let’s see Ian, the hero of “Couchgate” (you remember, the cause for which he was willing to spend as much time in jail as necessary, and then caved after 36 hours?) stroll down Main Street without any clothing covering the lower half of his body. Besides proving that his interest in this form of “protest” isn’t yet another manifestation of his sexism, it might provide an insight for unfortunate onlookers as to the source of his interest in guns.

  38. Ian on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 3:22 pm

    A. I have no significant interest in guns.
    B. How am I sexist, exactly?

  39. IceTrey on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 3:28 pm

    You’re argument is stupid. Men can go shirtless, women can’t. NOBODY can go bottomless.

    I totally support her protest. The only objection I have is that 99% of people aren’t model quality hot. The real reason people want them to be covered up is not because they will turn guys on but because they are gross. Go to a nude beach sometime. By the time you’ve seen your 100th pair of saggy granny titties you’ll be wishing they would put something on.

  40. Zeus on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 3:36 pm

    Yes, Ann, you’re so right as usual. The law allowing men to bare their chests in public while women are forbidden to do so is EXACTLY THE SAME as the law that says women can bare their vaginas in public but men can’t bare their penises.

    What? They BOTH can’t bare their genitalia? But Ann equated these situations as being identical so it must be true.

    What do you mean her inane drivel is just a not-so-subtle attack on Ian? That can’t be true because she wants to see his penis…

  41. AnAmazedReader on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 4:27 pm

    So, let me get this straight: the law or code prohibiting exposed genitalia is to be obeyed, but not the one prohibiting women from going topless? Who knew that you folks have such a passion for following New Hampshire law? It’s enough to make a person think that all the verbiage and all the stunts are simply rhetoric and childish acting-out.

    And Zeus, you’re speculating about a desire that could theoretically be fulfilled, but only with the assistance of special equipment; things like magnifying glasses, electron microscopes and the like. Vewy, Vewy complicated, little man.

  42. Zeus on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 4:52 pm

    So, let me get this straight: the law or code prohibiting exposed genitalia is to be obeyed, but not the one prohibiting women from going topless?

    You falsely equated one situation as being identical to another. I addressed the inequality of your much-revered laws in those situations. That you imagine that minor revelation as advocacy for obeying any of those laws is puzzling. I can only assume you pulled that inference out of the aether as you do with many of your other arguments.

    People should be free to do as they please with their bodies on their own property so long as they aren’t harming others.

    Maybe if your local slavemasters would stop trying to fool people into believing that “public land” isn’t a euphemism for “land that is appropriated and controlled by government”, the people in the clip would be doing their activism on their own property.

    As for you viewing Ian’s penis, you’ll have to negotiate with him directly. Perhaps he’ll include a free or discounted mooning.

  43. Russell Kanning on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 5:01 pm

    this gets funnier and funnier

  44. Outraged! on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 5:12 pm

    Ive seen that girl dancing at the club next to the airport under the name Tiffany! Someone needs to buy here some implants.

    This is the most pathetic attempt at getting noticed I’ve ever seen, I feel sorry the Police have to waste their time on this garbage. Loser…..

    Mark

    This girl that looks like she is 13 years old dances at a club with those little ant bites??? LOL!!!

  45. Lpviper on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 5:19 pm

    I didnt see the part with the breasts but the girl was cute, I thought

  46. Marc on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 5:30 pm

    Congrat Cass… You are my hero…
    You can sue the city and win as the law it is not constitutional.. and be $25,000 richer for being right! Get a civil right lawyer and be the one to change the world… Bravo!
    Marc mletou1@gmail.com

  47. Kevin on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 5:52 pm

    Kudos to Mr. Mike for asking logical, cogent questions of the arresting officer! Too bad you didn’t call the required three times so Cass could win the coveted award! Perhaps an exception should be made, or maybe you could call later?

    We love you Cass! And everyone else who participated.

    K

  48. AnAmazedReader on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 6:24 pm

    Zeus,

    It’s truly amusing to observe someone who reflexively sees enemies around so many corners talk about “liberty”. What must it feel like to live in such a psychological prison? You rail and rage against all the things you imagine are oppressing you, and yet at the end of the day you’re stuck with yourself, your limitations and the life you’ve made. Damn.

  49. Dan on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 7:21 pm

    Truly inspiring. Thank you Cass!

  50. Jim Liberty on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 7:34 pm

    Anyway, I really don’t see what Ann’s problem is. It is inequality, sexism, and stupid. Put it this way, if there was an Officer down call, the cops would’ve NOT arrested Cassidy. If there was a natural disaster (a flood?) and Cassidy was helping sandbag the town and her shirt ripped, but she kept working, no one would’ve been alarmed or arrested her. I would like to think even the prudes would’ve admired her moxie.
    So, it’s a stupid, sexist, VICTIMLESS, outdated, rule that needs to go away.

  51. Zeus on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 9:09 pm

    It’s truly amusing to observe someone who reflexively sees enemies around so many corners talk about “liberty”. What must it feel like to live in such a psychological prison? You rail and rage against all the things you imagine are oppressing you, and yet at the end of the day you’re stuck with yourself, your limitations and the life you’ve made. Damn.

    You think that’s amusing, you should try listening to some of these deluded worshipers of the state who think “1984″ is a how-to manual for success and who spend hours projecting their own failure of a life by arguing with abolitionists on internet messageboards and telling them (quite ironically) that wanting freedom makes them deranged and pathetic.

    Oh wait, you’re one of them. Oops.

  52. Vitruvian on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 9:22 pm

    Cassidy: I didn’t stay in Keene long enough to meet you, but I wish I had had that privilege. You possess a rare courage, and this act will surely inspire others (both men and women) to join in this, the grand struggle against authority.

    Oh, and to the sexists and statists in this thread and elsewhere: Die in a fire.

  53. interested observer on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 10:54 pm

    I would like to know why “AnAmazedReader” reads this site. It’s obvious he/she disagrees with most if not all of the posts on it.

  54. Jim Liberty on Mon, 24th Aug 2009 11:25 pm

    It’s funny that Zeus brought up 1984. I’d just finished reading it and came over here to see what was going on, and (of course) felt compelled to post. The math question was 2+2 and it freaked me out! I could just picture O’Brien zapping me for answering correctly. And along with Charley’s post, it was just very surreal. (for a sec I almost answered 5)

  55. Jessica on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 12:23 am

    You are rediculous!!! how can you justify coming down on a police officer who is merely doing his job. He is not the law maker. You should spend your time and energy lobbying the right people and the right places. You’ve just made an ass out of yourself and I promise you will look back on this and hope this video has disappeared. Of all the inequalities going on around us, you choose the one where we can’t show our tits? Way to go!!! loser

  56. D on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 12:50 am

    Hey Jessica, how many things have you done for woman’s equality?

    I think you’re the loser. Any feminist would support cass’s choice. YOU are the loser. Now go back to your sexist bubble you collaborator…

  57. SamIam on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 12:53 am

    You should spend your time and energy lobbying the right people and the right places. You’ve just made an ass out of yourself

    Slave on Slave violence, is perhaps the saddest thing I see in the liberty movement.

    Jessica – have you ever thought massa wants you to use his system to change things because he remains in control?

  58. Zeus on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 1:19 am

    “Did I not tell you just now that we are different from the persecutors of the past? We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out.” – George Orwell, 1984, Chapter 2

  59. Sam A. Robrin on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 8:39 am

    Comment by interested observer:
    “I would like to know why “AnAmazedReader” reads this site. It’s obvious he/she disagrees with most if not all of the posts on it.”

    In my youthful days of trendy liberalism, I’d read available venues ( no websites back then, of course)similar to this one with an inexplicable fascination. I realize now that I recognized the truth in them, albeit subconsciously, and was beginning the painful process of admitting my own faults as prelude to accepting it. It’s difficult, but worth the effort for the better person you become.

    And for those people complaining of “ant bites,” or that “99% of people aren’t model quality hot,” if you’ve never learned to appreciate the endless variety of sizes and shapes and colors and textures and flavors available in the vast panoply of the feminine form, I can’t censure you any more than your own attitude automatically censures itself.

  60. blargity on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 8:59 am

    aaaaaaaaand youtube has removed it, even though the EVIL SCARY NEED TO BE CENSORED BREASTS arnt even in a single shot.

    wtg youtubes.

  61. Justin on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 9:56 am

    Great job being free Cassidy!

    Too bad the agents of the State couldn’t allow the rest of your town to view that wonderful spectacle: a human acting to spite the oppressive, monopolistic, unjust, and mechanically prudish State.

    It’s not that she was topless: it was that she was happily disobeying, and anyone could see that the World wasn’t ending, there wasn’t chaos, and the Emporer was naked. So they brought in the goons to put an end to the show.

    It’s not about nudity: they’ll gladly give you a license to be nude in any number of similarly licensed facilities, and gladly allow men to be entranced by the nudity. Anything at all goes, as long as you remember to jump through their hoops.

    As soon as you disobey, the State must “do something”, lest the rest of the slaves get smart ideas.

    OH YEAH: YouTube is a Statist patsy now; they knew there was no nudity, it was removed for political reasons.

  62. Ian on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 10:05 am

    I have replaced the video with the Qik.com original and removed the “Youtube Live” option from the right side menu.

  63. Dikaiopolis on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 10:13 am

    The young woman is confused, so are all of you who post comments that agree with her broken reasoning.

    There is NO constitutional right for a woman to go topless. This should have been obvious to you all, since the same people who wrote our Bill of Rights also supported decency laws. The argument that such a right exists is thoroughly fallacious, based on a misunderstanding of what ‘equality’ means in legal language.

  64. Ian on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 10:32 am

    I think you have confused some of us with people who care about what their constitution says. Besides, the constitution was written allegedly to control the government, but clearly it did nothing of the sort. All it is now is an old document signed by dead men.

  65. Greg on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 10:34 am

    Dikaiopolis, who cares about the “Constitution”? Certainly not the people in control of the government; they violate it with impunity every day. Hell even if they didn’t, some piece of paper drafted by a bunch of self-appointed elites hundreds of years ago is hardly the end all and be all of what it means to be “free”.

    In other words, your appeal to authority won’t work here.

  66. Jon on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 12:17 pm

    @Dikaiopolis

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    The CONstitution does not give anyone rights. It’s supposed to limit government. You are born with your rights and can choose to use them or lose them. Citing the CONstitution for anything, unless you’re a gov. employee, just shows how brainwashed you really are. Or maybe you are a gov. employee.

  67. Lpviper on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 2:01 pm

    I’ve read the whole Constitution and it doesn’t say anything about the federal government establishing a dress code.

    It also does not ban this power from the states.

    So a given state could conceivably legislate this, or in other words a gang of criminals who claim to ‘represent’ you can force their ‘morality’ on you at the point of a gun.

    That’s what it gets down to. Those who wield power will wield it to try to make the world fit their image of what is ‘right’ or ‘moral’ or even ‘ethical’.

    What is unfortunate about the current paradigm is that people who agree with the legislation of morality vote to impose their views, and juries are not taught to throw these cases out of court if they find the ‘law’ distasteful or improper, and subjects of the government are looking to minimize their involvement with government and so are willing to ‘cut a plea deal’ with the gang.

    Until more of the people realize what being free is, and honor their neighbors’ choices, and act in their own lives to defend not only their choices, but those that their neighbors make, the oppression of the masses and harrassment of the few who are awake to logic will continue.

    This ‘system’ that forever pits us against one another, clawing for the biggest piece of the (stolen) pie, or looking for the ‘most’ or ‘best’ rights, or even using the invisble gun to scare obedience or ‘moral behavior’ (think of the irony!) from the masses is just sad to watch in the news and sad to think about.

    I am noticing that liberty is having a way of enabling itself. No one has harmed anyone during any freedom activist’s demonstration (except cops kidnapping and locking people up) that I have heard about in New Hampshire. People living freely, not hurting anybody, and yet the state is expending their blood money to chase after these obviously peaceful people?

    This will not endure. The people will tire of it and insist that their money stop being wasted and activists left alone.

    Which is exactly my goal in life. To go about my business and be left alone.

    Keep it up, tyrants. Your zeal will eventually be your downfall.

  68. Lpviper on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 2:22 pm

    Oh, and to those who would call the police because there’s a naked girl walking down the street with an armed escort, a couple questions:

    1. What harm was being done you?

    2. How will you quantify your damages?

    3. What service would you be summoning police for?

    4. What would you have done to the ‘offender’?

    5. What would you consider fair restitution for the damage done to you by an 18 year old woman without her shirt on?

    6. Wouldn’t looking the other way and ignoring her, or having the courage to confront her and ask that she respect your sensibilities, presence of children, whatever, be a more moral choice than calling out the thugs to haul her off and hiding in your house?

    Part of the process of being free is realizing that you are responsible for providing yourself and your kids with a proper environment, and that forcing people to behave in the way you think proper is not the right way to do this.

  69. thinkliberty on Tue, 25th Aug 2009 4:52 pm

    @DIKAIOPOLIS

    “The constitution” is a worthless piece of paper that the government shows to idiots to gain support.

    I did not sign or agree to be bound by the constitution. It does not give or take rights away from me. It’s nothing more than a old piece of paper. It’s also made from a plant that is “illegal” to grow in the US.

    I just wrote down on a piece of paper that you have to give me everything you own. I am going to call it the law. It will be our constitution and it does not give you any rights. You HAVE to follow it. Or else!!!

  70. Pete Eyre on Wed, 26th Aug 2009 11:59 am

    Awesome! Probably one of the most benign actions possible – no victim and as Cass pointed out, why the difference in the application of the “law” based on gender – yet it demonstrated the force the State relies upon. If you don’t do what they say, even something as simple as putting on a shirt, they’ll put metal bracelets on you and put you in a cage.

    Wish I could’ve joined y’all! Soon!

  71. Justin on Wed, 26th Aug 2009 12:52 pm

    greek guy: “There is NO constitutional right for a woman to go topless. This should have been obvious to you all, since the same people who wrote our Bill of Rights also supported decency laws. The argument that such a right exists is thoroughly fallacious, based on a misunderstanding of what ‘equality’ means in legal language.”

    While I agree with the other commentators that the Constitution does not create rights, the US Constitution does indeed include the 9th Amendment which codifies “other unenumerated rights” that may not be abridged. In this category courts have found rights to ‘privacy’, rights to free association (to an extent), reproductive rights, and even the right to ‘travel’. So even according to their own (the US gov’t) case law, a right does not have to be listed within the text to be protected: the individual only has to have a significant interest in keeping the claimed right, and show that it is not unlike other rights.

    In this case there is probably more specific precedent dealing with “the right to breast-feed” in public, and with equal gender rights protection. Just because the US constitution doesn’t specifically list a claimed ‘right’ doesn’t even mean that the US courts won’t protect that right from infringement by State governments.

    If you’re going to attack the activism, at least get your theory straight before you start spouting off.

  72. Ar the pirate on Wed, 26th Aug 2009 3:41 pm

    I would have enjoyed this video a lot more if I could have heard Cassidy and the officer and not Barskey’s non-stop commentary.

  73. Number6 on Thu, 27th Aug 2009 1:09 pm

    A peaceful women was standing with some friends and two people in gang uniforms forceably took her freedom away. She was harming no one, they initiated force against her.

    Whatever you think of their reasons, even if you think she was being childish – they were violent while she was peaceful.

    This is what the liberty movement is supposed to be about. Highlighting that, showing the violence they resort to against peaceful people, and supporting those brave enough to put themselves in the way of such violence.

    Oh, wait, liberty, violence against people who are peaceful, standing up for equal treatment … that’s all far less important than not seeing breasts in public.

  74. Brad on Thu, 27th Aug 2009 7:40 pm

    What’s probably more pathetic than this decline into the muck is the FSers’ responses to anyone who disagrees with them, or tries to point out their folly. If these people were trolling, I could understand the frothing responses, but they are trying to have their say, and the FSers really let them have it. I have tried to see your side of it, but the FSers are losing me.

  75. Zeus on Thu, 27th Aug 2009 7:52 pm

    Brad,

    Which part is losing you? The part where men can walk around without shirts or the part where women who do the same thing will be kidnapped at gunpoint, thrown in a cage and be forced to pay a small ransom in order to be set free?

    The inequality and injustice of the law (a law the officer could not cite and just assumes to exist, mind you) is cut and dry here.

    And don’t even get us started on where the obligation to follow such illogical rules even comes from…

  76. Lpviper on Thu, 27th Aug 2009 8:23 pm

    There is no such obligation unless you signed an agreement binding you to the rules.

    Come on ‘social contract’ people, Zeus is gonna eat your lunch

  77. Number6 on Fri, 28th Aug 2009 4:35 am

    Brad,

    You don’t think, perhaps, that accusations of “declining into the muck” to describe what to me looks like a fight for equality and defense of a peaceful women who was imprisoned for harming no one, could lead to some of that frothing?

    I understand you think the presence of breasts changes the equation in some way. Good, got that point. Don’t take part in the effort. No problem, not every action is for everyone.

    However, when you start using words like ‘folly’, ‘declining into muck’, to describe the actions being taken by those for whom this is important … don’t you think it’s a little disingenuous to complain when people react to it?

    I don’t know you, but I’m going to guess (correct me if I’m wrong) that since you are on this forum you are interested in the liberty movement. How many times in discussions with people not involved in the movement have they used words like silly to you? How frustrating is it to hear the issues you think of as important, basic to human rights, being dismissed as childish or folly?

    How much more frustrating must it be for that same kind of response to come from people who are part of the movement? How lonely it must feel to see the issues you care enough about to put yourself in a position to be handcuffed and your liberty taken … only to see people you thought had your back belittle your effort?

    You may be right about the frothing. And it probably isn’t the most constructive way to work. But I hope at least you can see why, even though you disagree with the particular circumstances here, the response is as emotional as it is.

    Cassidy, for what it’s worth, thanks for being far braver than I’ve been so far. Thanks for being on the front line.

  78. Zeus on Fri, 28th Aug 2009 4:46 am

    There is no such obligation unless you signed an agreement binding you to the rules.

    LPV is right. When it comes to stuff that’s yours i.e. your body, your clothing, your labor, and so on, no one — not even if a billion people say its okay — has the right to tell you what you can or can’t do with it so long as you aren’t harming others or damaging stuff they isn’t yours.

    Come on ’social contract’ people, Zeus is gonna eat your lunch

    I can’t eat their lunch, LPV. That would be stealing. :)

  79. Peacemaker on Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 10:42 am

    Brad, if the FS’ers are losing you, then you never got it the first place.

    Try this: What percentage of an individuals’ life should they be allowed to own?

    OR:

    I’ll agree to not initiate the use of force/violence against you if you’ve harmed no one (no victim = no crime). But would you do the same? Apparently not as it looks as though it’s still impossible for you get past all the government brainwashing (political correctness) you live by.

    (Democracy = 2 Cats and Bird deciding what’s for dinner.)

    PS: Try thinking for yourself sometime and you will set yourself free.

  80. Joe on Tue, 8th Sep 2009 1:20 pm

    Typical red-neck morons from New Hampshire… The officer was very patient with people who are obviously just out for attention ,.. or in other words,. out to ” cause alarm”.. What a joke they are.. Not to mention the fact that she is ugly and has horrible boobs,.. but I digress. They wanted attention and they got it..I commend the Officers from Keene for being very professional with a group of simple minded retards..

  81. charley hardman on Tue, 8th Sep 2009 1:27 pm

    obviously just out for attention ,.. or in other words,. out to ” cause alarm”..

    just for you, joe.

  82. Joe on Tue, 8th Sep 2009 1:51 pm

    wow.. Hardman,.. Im surprised you were able to even find a dictionary in your outhouse..how can I argue with your pure brilliance.. You sir, are a GENIUS and once again prove my point that people in Keene are about as smart as a hammer..

  83. Zeus on Tue, 8th Sep 2009 1:56 pm

    Says the guy who makes a post containing nothing but ad hominem attacks and unsupported statements. Yeah, that’s a sign of superior intelligence all right.

  84. charley hardman on Tue, 8th Sep 2009 2:02 pm

    once again prove my point

    here (requires reading, however).

  85. the kingof keene on Sun, 4th Oct 2009 9:35 pm

    Um, I just realized. If it’s not too late…I *NEVER *DID* get to see her boobs. Only *BEFORE* she took her top off…I *DO* remember thinking, DAMN! I wanna see them little BEAUTY-BREASTS!…can anybody post any photos of them???…Thanks!

  86. Carmen Cusack on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 7:15 pm

    Hi,

    Great job, soul sister!

    Do you have legal representation? I’m not licensed to practice law in your state, but I will provide free legal research (all the way to the Supreme Court if they grant cert.) on the issues for any pro bono att’y or public defender that you get. When do you go to trial?
    Write Me!!!!!!!

    Carmen
    Carmen@AhimsaArt.com

  87. charley hardman on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 7:51 pm

    not licensed to practice law in your state

    surprisingly, no “license” required in NH for this case, even if it still existed.

  88. Delroy on Mon, 26th Jul 2010 1:07 pm

    Ok, so if a pair of breast can cause “concern,/alarm/panic” they must be spooked very easy.

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