VIDEO: Meet Dick Tracy

August 27, 2010 by
Filed under: Laugh at the Aggressors, Video 

I was at the attorney genital’s office to support Ivy Walker in her hearing for “practicing law without a license”, but they would only let one other person into the hearing. I had questions, so Dick Tracy (really!) was sent to speak to me, but decided against it when he saw my camera. He then came out again several moments later only to repeat his earlier actions. Enjoy Dick in full HD:

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90 Comments on VIDEO: Meet Dick Tracy

  1. Bradley Jardis on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 2:21 pm

    He is actually a law enforcement officer with “arresting” authority:

    RSA 21-M:3 Attorney General; Deputy; Associates; Assistants. –

    VII. The attorney general may nominate, subject to confirmation by the governor and council, criminal justice investigators and consumer protection investigators within the limits of the appropriations made for the appointments, each of whom shall have statewide law enforcement authority, shall be a peace officer as defined by RSA 594:1, III, and shall serve for a 5-year term. Any person nominated for such a position shall be certified or eligible for certification as a police officer pursuant to RSA 188-F:26. A criminal justice investigator or a consumer protection investigator shall be removed if he or she fails to achieve certification or if he or she is decertified by the police standards and training council, otherwise a criminal justice investigator or a consumer protection investigator may be removed only as provided by RSA 4:1.

    http://admin.state.nh.us/directory/procSearch_internet.asp?FName=Richard&LName=Tracy&lstDepts2=&btnSearchPeople=Search+by+Name

  2. david on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 3:15 pm

    I liked what Ian said about “it doesnt matter what you want you are a public servant”
    (maybe not exactly) Regarding the taping

  3. JamesButabi on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 4:31 pm

    Its the whole transparency and accountability thing. Great slogans for political gain. When put into practice, they want non of it. Its awful hard to defend a corrupt system when you could be held accountable for it.

  4. rensorg on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 4:44 pm

    Nice to see you talk about accountability.

  5. Brodie on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 4:53 pm

    The attitudes of these people is just so despicable. They steal our money, and then laugh at us.

  6. Geoff on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 5:33 pm

    I love dick in full HD!

  7. KEENENATIVE on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 5:39 pm

    No comment at this time…

  8. Sam Dodson on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 6:18 pm

    Geoff – Downloading in HD makes it harder and longer to finally get dick.

  9. Paul on Fri, 27th Aug 2010 6:28 pm

    Allright, settle down folks .. making fun of a person’s name is not exactly high class.

  10. holy.canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 3:20 am

    ‘Attorney Genital’?
    Really?
    Necessary?
    Mature?

  11. Wes Sayville on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 8:01 am

    A closed mouth gathers no foot.

  12. KEENENATIVE on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 10:44 am

    “HD”= “hard dick”…(harder & longer)…/Sometimes, some snarky poster will cast a “PALL” over things!*grin*… “WELCOME TO FREEKEENE-where we “open mouth, insert foot, chew thoroughly”…Just like *READERS*”DIGEST”!…get it???…BWA HA Ha ha ha ho hum…///…BTW, how can a can of oil be Holy??? &, exactly how “mature” was Dick’s behavior???…

  13. Ian Freeman on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 1:41 pm

    Julia slipped up once and accidentally said “Attorney Genital” on-the-air once a couple of years ago and it stuck.

    It’s important to make fun of the people who aggress against others, and the attorney genital is one of those people. They hurt people – better to laugh at them rather than get angry, don’t you think, Holy?

  14. holy.canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 1:52 pm

    No, Ian, I absolutely disagree.
    I don’t think making fun of people is productive at all.
    Just because laughing at them may be better then getting angry at them, doesn’t make it a good thing.

  15. Paul on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 2:02 pm

    I agree with HC on this one.

    Actually, I don’t have a problem with laughing at politicians’ and bureacrats’ actions — but mocking names or titles is in poor taste.

  16. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 2:11 pm

    Paul,

    Yeah, there is definitely a difference between laughing at or about a politician when you are simply talking with friends (who hasn’t done that?) and publicly mocking them.

  17. Paul on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 2:20 pm

    HC, have you seen this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYpF5lizrrQ

    I think it’s a good example of mature, substantive humor — making fun of bad behavior (not names), and drawing attention to it, so it can be changed.

  18. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 2:28 pm

    Paul,

    I hadn’t seen that, but it’s great, for sure. The difference between that video and making fun of names is ‘smart humor’ vs ‘dumb humor’ I think. Also, the entire feel of the video is sarcastic and mocking, so it works.
    In this post, I feel Ian was trying to mix name-calling with serious issues—just not a good color on anyone, I don’t think. It only makes you look like a disgruntled person who isn’t well-versed enough on the issues to actually talk about them, or even make fun of them, so you have to resort to name-calling to make yourself look better. In my opinion.

  19. Ian Freeman on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 4:32 pm

    Holy,

    There’s no real issue in my video besides the typical lack of accountability for the violent monopolists. I fully admit I went for the easy joke.

    Also, I respect people as human beings until they give me a reason to not respect them. The people working for the attorney genital, (Dick is one of their “investigators”) are aggressors.

    Does a rapist deserve respect and not to be made fun of? How about a murderer? People in Dick’s position hurt peaceful people. As soon as Dick says he’s sorry and stops hurting people, I’ll stop laughing at him. Until it’s all I can do besides be scared of him and his ilk, and fear won’t get me anywhere.

    Dick is a criminal.

  20. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 4:45 pm

    Such integrity! I’d love to meet you and discuss this. Mc Cues at about 6:30?

  21. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 4:51 pm

    Ian,

    It’s not a matter of whether or not they deserve respect, it’s a matter of how you choose to present *yourself* A cheap joke about someone’s name is a reflection of your own maturity and how you handle things that upset you.

    Have you ever heard a politician, or really anyone serious, call Sarah Palin ‘Sarah Failin’? No. Why is that? Not because it might not be funny, or because everyone thinks she does great at her job…it’s because calling her that would make *them* look bad, and would only pointing out to others that she has a name that rhymes with another word–it doesn’t speak at all to her policies or any real issues that people have with her.

    It’s no more mature than a 3rd grade bully calling someone four-eyes. Does that accomplish anything? No.

  22. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 5:19 pm

    Holy

    Lighten up.

  23. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 5:26 pm

    Vince,

    Imagine how Free Keeners would react if I posted a blog called “Free Kooks” or something of the like. Do you think they would take it lightly and just laugh it off?No. Name calling doesn’t get you anywhere and it’s not respectful.

    It’s not a matter of ‘lightening up’ I’m just trying to show some people in Free Keene why many citizens think they are annoying and disrespectful. This type of blogging is certainly one example.

  24. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 5:51 pm

    You gonna be there tonight, Ian? I’m buying. Of course if there’s somewhere else you have to be, I’ll understand,

  25. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 5:53 pm

    canoli,
    you take EVERY LITTLE THING WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOO SERIOUSLY.
    YOU NEED TO TAKE A MAJOR CHILL PILL
    :-)

  26. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 5:58 pm

    I’m not the only one who found this pots unnecessarily childish, David. I wasn’t even the first person to mention it. Why am I the only one who is taking to seriously then? Obviously others agree with me.

  27. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:15 pm

    http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/f/l/2/Kim-Jong-Il-Successor.jpg

    Laughing at them is a non-violent way to challenge their legitimacy.

  28. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:25 pm

    How does making fun of their names challenge their legitimacy exactly?

  29. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:29 pm

    Making fun of them is a way to encourage people not to take them seriously.

  30. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:33 pm

    Soooo we shouldn’t take people with names that are easy to make fun of seriously?
    On what basis?

  31. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:36 pm

    No, we shouldn’t take people who threaten to use violence against peaceful people seriously.

    Making fun of them is a way to not take them seriously.

  32. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:38 pm

    Making fun of their actions, or policies or whatever may be a way to not take them seriously.
    Making fun of their names just makes it look like you have no basis for your arguments other than the fact that they have a funny name.
    Again, how does making fun of someone’s name challenge their legitimacy?

  33. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:41 pm

    Great Vince! Remember to remind Sam of that.

  34. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:47 pm

    Can we make fun of Ian for not taking me up on getting beer past his bedtime? I mean bed check time.

  35. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:53 pm

    Steve,

    I don’t think fighting fire with fire ever gets you anywhere.

  36. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:54 pm

    Tweedlee Dumb and Tweedlee Dee-tainened, between 6pm & 6am.

  37. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:55 pm

    canoli,
    are you always contrary?
    Like if we was to say “the Nazis was very very bad people”
    would you like argue ” they was NICE!”
    ?

  38. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:56 pm

    Hi Steve,

    If you look for my posts, you’ll see that I did just that. I was appalled by Sam’s actions in “cupgate”.

  39. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:59 pm

    David,

    I hold strong beliefs on what is effective communication. I’m not going to accuse Ian of doing something, and then condone Steve for doing the same thing….

  40. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 6:59 pm

    “Again, how does making fun of someone’s name challenge their legitimacy?”

    Again, making fun of them is a way to not take them seriously. Not taking them seriously is a challenge to their authority.

  41. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:04 pm

    I still don’t see how you can connect a silly name with illegitimacy.
    There’s no logical connection between having a silly name and being a bad person.

  42. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:05 pm

    Vince,
    sam got pissed at a jerk interfering with the video …
    being “appalled”
    is like being “appalled”
    at nature……..
    I guess all you people who seem to throw stones at Sam
    are PERFECT
    “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”
    all yall are goofy
    sam did fine :.was he gandi?
    no
    was he mike tyson?
    no
    he did F’ING fine
    …..and Canoli, you seem to be BLIND to James’ sins in this situation and all you do is cast stones at others
    enough already
    I guess you.canoli, are perfect perhaps we need to follow canoli and we will be F’ing perfect

  43. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:07 pm

    :-)

  44. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:10 pm

    David,

    Have I even mentioned James and Sam on this board? I don’t think so….

  45. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:10 pm

    Sorry, I didn’t spell your name right, Tweedlee Dee-tained between 6pm & 6am. My bad.

  46. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:11 pm

    canoli,
    ok
    :-)

  47. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:13 pm

    :-)
    my bad then canoli
    :-)

  48. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:13 pm

    “I still don’t see how you can connect a silly name with illegitimacy”

    Making fun –> not taking seriously –> challenge to authority

    David,

    I’m not perfect. But I can control my temper. Yes, James was being a jerk…and you might even say he is equally culpable. That said, we need to set a good examples.

  49. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:17 pm

    Vince,

    Whatever you say. I’m just trying to let you know that making fun of people for something as silly as their name really only ends up making *you* and your arguments look bad and illegitimate.

  50. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:17 pm

    I get it David. It’s ok for you or Sam to be violent, but not others. Wonder how Sam’s exgirlfriends feel about that. Oh, wait, Sam said she hit his hand with her face. Must be true. Oh, poor Tweedlee Dumb.

  51. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:21 pm

    deleted

  52. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:23 pm

    Holy,

    Thanks for your input. :)

    But seeing these supposed sacrosanct politicians made fun of was one of the ways I came to the ideas of liberty. It helped me to see that there is nothing special about these people.

    In other words, it worked for me.

    Anyway, sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying :)

  53. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:26 pm

    Remember to bring it up at your next Quaker meeting.

  54. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:34 pm

    Vince,

    To each his own, I guess. And as I said before, there’s a difference between making fun of someone with friends, and making fun of them when you are trying to make a public statement.
    I know that many people in Keene don’t take Free Keene seriously because a lot of what Free Keeners do often involves mocking or belittling other people, rather than focusing on actual issues.

  55. Vince on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 7:54 pm

    Holy,

    I suppose that people will do the things that were most effective in communicating the ideas of liberty to them. For me, making light of them really got me to change the way I viewed the folks in power, so that’s why I look at it as effective (and I’ve used it effectively to convince people I know as well). I suppose that’s why approaching it from lots of different directions works best. Some approaches work well for some, and other approaches work best for others. There are plenty of posts here on Free Keene that use logical argument. This is a chance to laugh a little at this scary people.

    A joke isn’t an argument. It’s a joke. Be careful Holy, you might laugh!

  56. holy_canole on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 8:00 pm

    Vince,

    Fair enough. I’m not going to say I agree with you but I can see your point, and I think saying simply that it makes you laugh at them is a much better explanation then saying ti challenges their authority.

  57. david on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 8:07 pm

    steve,

    I ,unlike you it seems,don’t have video of the life of sam and his gf.
    on the other hand i DID see the video of the interaction with James
    so that’s what i talk about
    I guess you where a “fly on the wall” well sam and his gf ….whatever.
    I would say to you to focus on the interaction with james
    seeing as we have video of that
    but again
    i guess you were a fly on the wall well sam and his gf had arguments
    bottom line
    Don’t talk about what you know NOTHING ABOUT
    and i don’t want to hear your “he said she said ”
    In court that’s called “Hearsay” and and its irrelevant and immaterial

  58. Steve on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 8:23 pm

    I didn’t know this was court. I’m just going by what Sam wrote on this blog, and then Ian took down. Hey Ian, beer sure tastes good out here. How’s the Dungeons and Dragons?

  59. Ian Freeman on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 10:10 pm

    I’m the first to admit I went for the lowest common denominator with my joke.

    Of course his name’s “Dick Tracy” and he was acting like a dick. Had he not, it’d have been much more difficult to make fun of him.

    It was a perfect opportunity. I couldn’t resist!

  60. Ian Freeman on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 10:12 pm

    People make fun of me all the time. Take Steve with his lame curfew jokes, for instance. At least the dick jokes actually got a few laughs.

    I don’t play D&D Steve, but I do play Magic the Gathering. How about you?

  61. Lpviper on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 11:23 pm

    I play red. Nasty old red with Fork and Fireblast n such. One of these days I’ll sit across a table from you, Ian

  62. Chaz Munro on Sat, 28th Aug 2010 11:52 pm

    When you are striving to remain peaceful against the state, humor is one of your best tools to use.

    I should offend the state, they offended me first and keep continuing to do so.

    http://www.nolanchart.com/article5739.html

  63. Chaz Munro on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:05 am

    How to Make Government Look More Illegitimate

    What you can do in your everyday life to knock down these pillars of sand Big Brother erects in his (dis)honor.

    by Chaz Munro

    We get better treatment by those who actually care about our satisfaction, from the people that work at bagging our groceries than we do from our grossly mis-named “public servants”. Most folks complain under their breath if at all, but now the mess government has accrued has become way too big to sweep under the rug. Big Brother has irked everyone and in a big way. It has become glaringly illegitimate to everyone.

    Uncle Sham was not content to just devalue all our money and order us to smile and be “good citizens” while he smacked us around. He was not satisfied snooping in on our phones and emails, snatching our property, and ordering us around.

    No good people, he had to take it up a notch and pile numerous insults onto the ever growing heap of injuries done to you and me. I feel the tipping point will be that piece of plastic in your wallet when you go to your bank’s ATM and it tells you “sorry pal, your worthless money got swiped from you”. Wait in line at IndyMac or WaMu if you like, but you’re going to real disappointed when the teller informs you that not only was your account cleaned out by two-bit charlatans with ill-intent, but the real kick in the head is that you’re going to be billed for this fiasco.

    Mr. and Mrs. America (and presumably all the ships at sea) are finally in a spot where, if Libertarians care to educate them of the facts, they can have just as much open and useful criticism for government meddling in their lives, as average Libertarians have done so all these years.

    From there the finger can finally be pointed in the direction that our lapdog media has refused to have the backbone to tell us: at Government itself. We may readily let people know in a way that can be easily digested by average Americans, that what we’ve been telling them all along is exactly on target: Government is illegitimate.

    Just how do you go about making government illegitimate? When you break it down, it really just means letting ordinary people see what is mostly obvious to them:

    I like a good joke, it helps break the tension and is great for allowing folks to feel easy in the presence of bad news. Russians “toppled” plenty of statues of Lenin, Marx, Stalin and other fatheads and despots with a handy joke. They exposed their dictators and wannabe tyrants with humor and the ridicule they deserved.

    Leviathan bites us all deeper than many of us realize because it has abandoned its only legitimate task of defending our rights and properties and has instead gone out of it’s way to do the opposite of it’s well defined mission and steal those same rights and our property.

    I find that even in my everyday activities at the store when counting out (what passes for) money at the checkout, I can plant a seed in the minds of the clerks. “I went to a public school so I don’t know to count, but I think that I gave you the right amount”.

    Sure, people will be instructed to blame capitalism for America’s woes, but people have been had too often in way too short of a time. I have a keen sense that people will connect the dots and make up their own minds. Traditional news outlets have been losing their grip on people’s minds for some time now.

    If the president did anything to help the situation (by accident of course) he showed us the filthy cold underbelly of big government. He rubbed our noses in it and told us that if we were good Americans who did no wrongdoings we need not fear the onerous Patriot Act and it’s vile mission to scoop up citizens to feed the savage meat grinder of the U.S. Penal System.

    There are other things we can do to thumb our nose at government. Form a small group of people who share your concern. You really need at least 4 or 5 members just to keep from being perceived as a bunch of “loners”. Contact your local media and call a press conference (free publicity for your group).

    Have a certificate, and add a cheap frame printed awarding best public servant (one who does most to work him/herself out of a job). And of course don’t forget the worst ones awarded titles of “rudest”, “most dishonest”, “most clueless”, etc.

    While it’s still legal to do so, educate your friends, casual acquaintances and the like. Try strangers on the street if you’re feeling especially friendly and show people by example how to make public employees look like total schmucks at every possible opportunity.

    This is our land, we belong here and keep their bellies full, not to mention paying their union dues and allowing their utilities to continue flowing without interruption. They should be eternally grateful to us for that, not mistreat us.

    We’re keeping these pampered layabouts employed when if they were actually paid for their “real value” they were to us, the whole gang of jack-booted thugs would be rummaging through dumpsters for scraps thrown out by the genuinely productive populace.

    Since the taxes used to pay them are extorted from us under implied threat of force, a picture of an armed moocher shouldn’t be too difficult to paint in the minds of the everyday throng to fill in the blanks of a petty despot or his vile underlings.

    Don’t waste too much of your time trying to convince those incapable of learning the truth, instead move on to the next. Street arguments are for suckers. Some people are just too averse to looking at what is ugly or seemingly inconsequential to them. When some wild eyed bureaucrat goes ape on him or her they’ll remember your chat.

    Look at it in terms of letting as many people in on what is actually happening to them. Have fun with it and share with the masses that ridicule and bad public relations are exactly what these government employees both fear and deserve.

    When government stays out of yours and others lives, you are freer, to the degree of just how much you are able to keep them at bay. Good luck to you on your mission, my friends.

  64. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 7:09 am

    No Ian, no ‘magic’ games for me. I live in the real world. And I am not making fun of your curfew. I am making fun of you. You are the one claiming the state is not legitimate. Yet you give them legitimacy by agreeing to their demands. And I’ll bet making a joke about your name did get a few laughs, just not by your followers who can’t see how much of a hypocrite you are. Hey, look! It’s after 6! You are ‘freeman’ for another 12 hours. Too bad it’s daylight. People might see you for who you really are.

  65. Chaz Munro on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 9:24 am

    Steve mindlessly blurted forth the following absurdly cruel nonsense, on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 7:09 am

    No Ian, no ‘magic’ games for me. I live in the real world. And I am not making fun of your curfew. I am making fun of you. You are the one claiming the state is not legitimate. Yet you give them legitimacy by agreeing to their demands. And I’ll bet making a joke about your name did get a few laughs, just not by your followers who can’t see how much of a hypocrite you are. Hey, look! It’s after 6! You are ‘freeman’ for another 12 hours. Too bad it’s daylight. People might see you for who you really are.

    No Steve, you are playing games with Ian. Just because *you say so* does not make it anything close to what is truth. Nobody made you the final arbiter of what is and isn’t so. What you are doing is trying to place Ian in a cage, yet you lack the guts to actually do so yourself. You even believe you can goad or trick him into walking into that prison cell.

    That is because you have deluded yourself into believing that you can entrap people who are much smarter than you are. How’s that working out for you, so far Steve?

    Nope, what you want is to enjoy the violence the state employs against human beings that live in your midst while you sit back and cackle to yourself in rapt glee at the harm done to them. All the while you will in the front of your mind, tell yourself that you are a good person. Tattoo this on the inside of your eyelids, Steve:

    Ian goes up against people who do not follow their own rules, they constantly change these same rules to always favor themselves and their friends, and hamper those who do not play along. He wants to earn a living doing a radio show, not sit in a dank dungeon eating lousy food while you laugh at him for falling for your bullying tactics.

    You don’t have to agree with what he does or believes in as you are obviously nowhere near as smart as you only dream yourself to be. You are still free to watch the cruelty of your UFC wrestling on television, cheering on the pretend violence against other people. You can do this because you will eventually be able to benefit from the future freedoms liberty activists will gain for you, regardless of whether they have your blessings now or gratitude once they are achieved.

    Yes, Steve it is all too obvious where you stand on this, yet I will counter your vile hatred for your fellow beings with absolute pity for you for being the way you are.

  66. holy_canole on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 9:32 am

    I resent the sentiment that no one is truly smart unless they believe in what Ian/yourself believe.

  67. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 10:00 am

    Keep the blinders on, Chaz. Your ‘liberty activists’ have done nothing for me, and I doubt they ever will. I just like to point out the total bullshit you guys portray yourselves as. Someday, perhaps, you will learn that we are part of a society. There are rules, and there are acceptable ways of behavior. And I agree, my behavior on this blog isn’t the best. Tough shit. When someone does the exact same type of thing you and your group does, you lose it. Total hypocrites. You like to throw around names like Ghandi and MLK and Rosa Parks, as if it will give some sort of legitimacy to your movement. It doesn’t. They were TRUE freedom fighters. 100 years from now they will still be remembered. Your group will not. They affected change. Real change. If you don’t like the society you are in, work to change it. Or move. I here Somalia has no government rule, might be a good place for you. But just because others don’t agree with you and you don’t get your way, it doesn’t make you right. Yelling it thru a bullhorn doesn’t make it any more true. Just because someone has a talk show doesn’t mean they have anything real to say. Saying it over and over again may convince you and some of the more feeble minded of it’s validity. Not me. Truth is truth, and bullshit is bullshit. For some it is easy to distinguish, for others, not so. I don’t know about you, but I know Ian is full of shit. The emperor has no clothes.
    And Chaz, I don’t mindlessly blurt anything.

  68. Ian Freeman on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 10:39 am

    Oh Steve,

    You busted me! Now everyone knows I’m a coward!

    Except that I’ve already admitted as much publicly multiple times. Here, I’ll do it again, just for you:

    I do not have unlimited courage. I have pushed my civil disobedience activism to its current set of limits. I don’t want the consequences of what further disobedience would mean, not at this time. That means I’m a coward. I’m not proud of that fact, but it’s true.

    Also, “Freeman” is a name I’d like to grow into – I don’t actually believe I am free. That’s why I moved here – I’m seeking more freedom. So are a lot of other people, and they aren’t my followers.

    Though you are wrong about something, Steve, and it’s a pretty big something. Society has many definitions, certainly, but Ballentine’s 3rd Edition law dictionary defines it as follows:

    A voluntary association, sometimes a corporation, organized and existing for the mutual benefit of its members in patriotic,
    religious, charitable, or professional pursuits

    Your society is not voluntary. I did not choose to enter it. Your society is based on coercion against peaceful people. I have chosen to join another society, the Shire Society. Our society is based on consensual interactions between human beings, and yours is not. That’s the truth, though you are welcome to deny it as much as makes you feel good.

  69. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 11:06 am

    Society–noun
    1. an organized group of persons associated together for religious, benevolent, cultural, scientific, political, patriotic, or other purposes.
    2. a body of individuals living as members of a community; community.
    3. the body of human beings generally, associated or viewed as members of a community: the evolution of human society.
    4. a highly structured system of human organization for large-scale community living that normally furnishes protection, continuity, security, and a national identity for its members: American society.
    5. such a system characterized by its dominant economic class or form: middle-class society; industrial society.
    6. those with whom one has companionship.
    7. companionship; company: to enjoy one’s society.
    8. the social life of wealthy, prominent, or fashionable persons.
    9. the social class that comprises such persons.
    10. the condition of those living in companionship with others, or in a community, rather than in isolation.
    11. Biology . a closely integrated group of social organisms of the same species exhibiting division of labor.
    12. Ecclesiastical . an ecclesiastical society.

    Well, Ian Freeman, this is where you live. Just because ‘voluntary’ is in one definition, doesn’t mean it is the only definition. Your ‘Shire Society’ is here, a subset if you will, of this society at large. That is the truth. Deny it if you want, but it is the truth. Rules and ways of behavior apply to you. Like I said, move your society to Somalia if you wish. There are no other sets of rules there. But you do choose to live here. You just don’t want the rules that you don’t like to apply to you. If you aren’t part of this society, then why are you trying to change the rules of it? Just ignore them and go on your merry way. Don’t subject yourself to petty things like that.
    No, you just like to make waves and get attention. Good short term tactic, but in the long run, you will be forgotten. As will the Shire Society.

  70. Ian Freeman on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 11:49 am

    Steve, I’ll support whatever methods lead to a voluntary society. If that means working within the system they force me to be in, then that’s fine.

    All roads lead to more freedom.

    You makes some big predictions there, Steve. Plus, you don’t know much about me – I don’t much like attention – that’s why I didn’t name my radio show The Ian and Mark Show. I look to garner attention for ideas, not for myself. Liberty deserves attention as does the idea of moving to NH and Keene.

    Besides, only time will tell whose predictions about society are right. Considering there are thousands of liberty-minded people moving to New Hampshire, I know where I’m placing my bet.

  71. Chaz Munro on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 11:56 am


    on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 10:00 am Steve doth took advantage of a sale at Hannafords on Mindlessly brands, artificially smart flavor of Blurted Forth:

    Keep the blinders on, Chaz. Your ‘liberty activists’ have done nothing for me, and I doubt they ever will.

    That’s what I expected out of you, Steve. As Rich Paul would say, “If you’re happy and you know it, shake your chains”. Do you remember what I had clearly and succinctly explained to you in my last message? No?

    It does not matter if you give us your blessings now or even your gratitude later. It also does not hinder my cause if a slave refuses to realize his enslavement. Enough have chosen to cast off their chains, to make a positive difference for liberty. You mistakenly believe that I & others are messing with “the community”. It is not mean to refuse to let government be mean to people, no matter what ridiculous spin you put on it.


    I just like to point out the total bullshit you guys portray yourselves as. Someday, perhaps, you will learn that we are part of a society. There are rules, and there are acceptable ways of behavior.

    And again you know what is but are in such deep denial about it that it is beginning to make you appear supremely dense. We are not against rules, we are against rulers. What sickness allows thinking people to desire anyone to lord over them? I really do pity you being so scared of your independence from others who would otherwise dictate your every move in life.


    And I agree, my behavior on this blog isn’t the best. Tough shit. When someone does the exact same type of thing you and your group does, you lose it. Total hypocrites. You like to throw around names like Ghandi and MLK and Rosa Parks, as if it will give some sort of legitimacy to your movement. It doesn’t. They were TRUE freedom fighters. 100 years from now they will still be remembered. Your group will not.

    And now you think that you can predict the future based solely on your prejudices against freedom activists. If you pair that with your absurd support of a system based on violence, then it is no wonder that you would have a big problem with peaceful people doing brave things that you just simply have no stomach for.

    They affected change. Real change. If you don’t like the society you are in, work to change it. Or move. I here Somalia has no government rule, might be a good place for you.

    Live Free or Die. We belong here if anyone does, and if we don’t then it is you that needs to leave first. Get some help packing if you still feel that way, that is unless it is *you* that is the hypocrite.

    But just because others don’t agree with you and you don’t get your way, it doesn’t make you right. Yelling it thru a bullhorn doesn’t make it any more true. Just because someone has a talk show doesn’t mean they have anything real to say. Saying it over and over again may convince you and some of the more feeble minded of it’s validity. Not me. Truth is truth, and bullshit is bullshit. For some it is easy to distinguish, for others, not so. I don’t know about you, but I know Ian is full of shit. The emperor has no clothes.

    You omitted that the emperor is not Ian Freeman and never was. You have a nasty habit, Steve of accusing us of what instead *you* are.


    And Chaz, I don’t mindlessly blurt anything.

    And yet you mindlessly blurt it all out anyway. You laughably believe that this is some island that you can just vote off people you don’t like with no intellectual involvement at all, act as though you are speaking for a majority of the community. You don’t even realize that the “community” is made up of individuals who for the most part are quite good with what the activists do.

  72. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:03 pm

    Good odds? And the population of Keene and NH are? You will be done far before this society is. And no one will care about you or your voluntary society. Sometimes people who yell the loudest (bullhorn, radio show, websites, protests etc..) have the least to say.

  73. Paul on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:08 pm

    Like I said, move your society to Somalia if you wish. There are no other sets of rules there.

    Actually, there are lots of gangs of men with guns trying to rule over other people, in Somalia, just as there are here.

  74. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:15 pm

    Chaz, sounds like you’re not getting enough ketchup.

  75. Paul on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:17 pm

    Just ignore them and go on your merry way.

    They’ll throw you in jail, if you don’t send them cash to spend on blowing people up all around the world, and give to their corrupt buddies in investment banking, industry, or bureaucracy, etc.

    It’s sad and a little funny how desperate you are to excuse the behavior of a bunch of men and women who literally threaten to hurt people in order to extort cash from them. Who literally lock people in cages who possessing a plant without their approval, or for trading with neighbors without their say-so.

    All of the arguments you make about “community” could easily be applied to jim crow, slavery, or any of a number of evil laws in the past. Hindsight’s 20/20 — at the time, civil rights activists were extremely unpopular. One Atlanta poll put support for jim crow at 90%. These were not men and women vastly different from us. We’re made of the same stuff as they.

    To be frank, for most people, the only reason they support MLK or Rosa Parks is that they’ve been taught from a young age to do so. I’m betting if you’d lived then, they’d also have scared you, as people trying to upset “the community” or “the rules”.

    I don’t agree with all of the activism chosen. You mention some — loud bullhorning, certain behaviors in the square, etc.

    But the cause is legitimate, if you’re willing to think honestly about it. The behaviors of the men and women calling themselves “government” do not meet basic moral standards.

  76. Chaz Munro on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:20 pm

    Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:03 pm used up even more of his well stocked supply of mindless blurt to bring you a message from his sponsors:

    Good odds? And the population of Keene and NH are? You will be done far before this society is. And no one will care about you or your voluntary society. Sometimes people who yell the loudest (bullhorn, radio show, websites, protests etc..) have the least to say.

    We get it, the message means nothing to you while you constantly stretch for more of your bizarre reasons, to explain why you feel so. What is immediately noticeable about you is that you have a hard time distinguishing the goofy popularity content inside your head from what exists in the real world, outside of your mind.

    You are the judge of this game you play, where you have your weird fantasies of being some Simon Cowell character, ripping apart a performer because your delicate tastes were offended.

    This is the real world, Steve and people who delight in the violence inherent in the system, still look down their nose at you. You are cattle to them to be milked for your labor.

    You may now feel free to get over yourself.

  77. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:22 pm

    Wouldn’t this be a good time for a nice piece of rhubarb pie?

  78. Chaz Munro on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:37 pm

    I’ll bring the chocolate raspberry flavored coffee beans & the grinder.

  79. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:44 pm

    Ugh. How ’bout candy cane coffee instead?

  80. Paul on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 12:55 pm

    I’ll bring the powdermilk biscuits in the brown bag with dark stains that indicate freshness. :D

    Gotta love Garrison. I think it’s impossible to be stressed out or unhappy while listening to that show. Best enjoyed at night on your porch when the power’s out, using a battery operated radio, with a cold drink, watching the storm roll in.

  81. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 1:18 pm

    Paul, I’m starting to find you very attractive.

  82. david on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 1:39 pm

    canoli,

    you wanna be a free stater dont you?
    YOU WANNA BEEE A FREE STATER…..
    iM GONNA HYPNOTIZE U INTO BEING A FREE STATER
    you know you want it
    your close i can tell
    :-P

  83. Bradley Jardis on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 5:56 pm

    canoli,

    you wanna be a free stater dont you?
    YOU WANNA BEEE A FREE STATER…..

    I was born and raised in New Hampshire and I am proud to refer to myself as a “Free Stater.”

    Why?

    Because I don’t believe in using violence against peaceful people.

    iM GONNA HYPNOTIZE U INTO BEING A FREE STATER
    you know you want it
    your close i can tell
    :-P

    Actually, my path towards being a “Free Stater” was a process of de-hypnosis.

    Government indoctrination centers taught me that it is alright to be violent to peaceful people so long as enough people agree with it.

    Learning about freedom, liberty, and the “Non-Aggression Principle” helped me shake the hypnosis-induced belief that victimless-crimes are a good idea.

  84. Paul on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 6:10 pm

    Thanks steve, but I don’t swing that way, and I’m married.

  85. david on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 6:57 pm

    oh

  86. Steve on Sun, 29th Aug 2010 8:11 pm

    That’s what they all say, Paul.

  87. FREE KOOK on Mon, 30th Aug 2010 2:43 pm

    HOILY-CAN-OILY, Man-bat! Looks like another FREE KOOK…must be that fucking jerk who calls himself “keenenative”! I’m going to KILL YOU, keenenative!…

  88. keenenative on Mon, 30th Aug 2010 2:43 pm

    No, I’m going to kill *YOU*, “free kook”…

  89. theKINGofKEENE on Mon, 30th Aug 2010 2:45 pm

    Well, it looks like “keenenative”, & “freekook” are going to try to kill each other…I’ll post who the survivor is…See what you started, “holy_canoli”?…Are you proud of yourself, now?

  90. theKINGofKEENe on Tue, 31st Aug 2010 8:52 pm

    ..4 an even 90.\

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