In the controversy surrounding the TSA intimidating Free Keene blogger Meg McLain and removing her from the Ft. Lauderdale airport, someone’s lying, and we know who has a history of lying: The TSA. Yesterday they released some security footage (Video 1, Video 2) of the security area where Meg had her encounter with the TSA agents. The release of the footage was an attempt to make Meg look like she was telling lies, but the evidence points to TSA being the liars. What kind of security footage doesn’t have a timecode? There is no way to tell what happened between the two videos, and the TSA would obviously like us to believe they are contiguous. Regardless, the footage raises many questions about what Meg claimed in our interview with her on Free Talk Live, of which the YouTube video has received about half-a-million hits in a day’s time. Was she actually handcuffed? Did they rip up the ticket? Is the TSA showing us all the footage? These questions and more were asked and answered on 11/11’s Free Talk Live in the third hour, which I have uploaded to YouTube. Thanks to Meg for taking an hour out of her busy schedule to talk with us again to clarify what really happened. Here’s the interview:
Meg Addresses Tough Questions About TSA’s Video “Evidence”
"The government doesn’t own the airlines, or the airports, or us, or the sky, and has no right to force us to put up with their abuse in order to fly."
They don't force you. Get your pilot's license.
No one is forcing you to fly, therefore no one is taking your freedom away
The government doesn't own the airlines, or the airports, or us, or the sky, and has no right to force us to put up with their abuse in order to fly.
By your logic, they could put nude scanners at the entrance to every business, and say "since no one is forcing you to shop there, no one is taking your freedom away". They could put one at the entrance to your home, and claim, "nobody's forcing you to leave".
Wrong! If you and your neighbor want to trade, that does not justify some third party imposing their will on you.
Even from a constitutional perspective, they have no right to simply decide that your fourth amendment rights no longer apply when you enter an arbitrary area, or contract for a particular type of service.
I'm sick of people claiming their freedom is being taken away by the TSA. Until you can prove to me that the government is FORCING you to fly, you can take this whole "TSA is taking naked pictures and molesting us" bullshit and use it to show how free you are! How? BY NOT FLYING! Exercise you FREEDOM and choose not to fly next time. None of you morons have a leg to stand on when you yourselves are paying to put yourselves in such a "humiliating" situation. No one is forcing you to fly, therefore no one is taking your freedom away. And for that idiot who travels every week and claimed that poor little Meg's Fourth Amendment Rights are being taken away; prove it. FLYING IS NOT A RIGHT YOU IDIOT! She paid to put herself in that position. If she is so against it--get in a car and drive! What's that? It takes to long? Then shut the hell up and go through security. It's entirel up to you because you are FREE to make that choice. And, because YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE, you can't claim your freedom is being taken away. Can't you see how stupid that makes you sound?
I'm all about anarchy and freedom, BUT...her stories don't add up. She's a "shock jock" and wants to be famous, end of story. And since when is a tiny city in New Hampshire a hot bed for activism? Hilarious! And yes, Peter Griffin for president.
meg can you, show video where you were groped, instead of lying . There was in your fake video, a chap that went through the body scan and he got felt up, and was let loose.
You WERE NOT tramatized, or you wouldn't be posting the NEW FOUND CELEBRITY. This is a weak attempt to get your way, "you know", it's LIKE OMG FAKE".
I will admit, meg does sound very cheerful for the aligator tears woman that is so upset.
If so tramatized by the molestation, she would be alot less chatty.
And the host of the show is GREAT at asking leading questions.
Be sure to use words the GOVT uses, DISTURBING,UPSET,this is a joke.
The airports have more than one camera angle, Which you lot refuse to post!
So, I'm missing the part where the TSA was at the inteview. Did it get lost on Meg's luggage?
Sounds VERY one-sided to me.
Oh no, we are hurting the feelings of the fat-assed-goons and leeches-wannabe's!
Halloween is over, no more freakshows -- get lost and go back to molesting just your ilk.
The airlines and their customers can handle their own affairs without you blood-suckers butting in -- and it's none of your fucking business you perverts!
I fly every week, and I have watched as TSA agents yelled about some citizen to each other. In one specific event, an agent proclaimed loudly (yelled) "prosthesis!" to some other agents, who then proceeded to "go over" a poor octogenarian looking dude in a wheelchair as if he were the biggest threat to national security they had ever seen. They were nice and kept calling him "Sir", etc., but the guy was totally violated and humiliated, no matter how kindly they tried to treat him.
This irrationality, though performed in homage to equality and security, is still irrational. This violation, though attended with a polite color of law, is still a violation. I welcome the end of the TSA, which I expect to live to see.
Rock on Meg. If you remembered imperfectly, it is understandable considering your obvious fear I saw on the video during your lonely, brave opposition to the violation of your Fourth Amendment rights. The video shows a terrified martyr opposing the raw force of State. If you remembered imperfecly, it is
quite immaterial to the abusive nature of the virtual strip searches and all too real gropings of a government that has lost respect for the social contract that limits it. The TSA violated and humiliated you in front of other citizens. Their own video shows it.
You are a brave girl for standing up to tyranny. Next time you will be stronger and wiser. Next time, you won't let them change the subject.
Meg, I’m a TSA officer and to say your story has holes is a gross understatement.
You lied throughout your first interview and than when the video comes out you lied about your lies and these chumps interviewing are either completely naive or completely moronic or in all likelihood, both.
She trips through this second interview even though its friendly fire, its obvious that she was brought from one point to the next in a continual video.
She didn’t stop in the middle to be handcuffed for a few minutes and then brought to a 3rd area. Once handcuffed, she would’ve been brought directly down to the LEO’s station and her involvement with TSA would’ve been over at that point.
Meg refused to go through the body scanner. And then you wanna know what happened?? Meg refused to have anyone screen her with the only other way we are able to screen passengers and that’s with a standard pat-down.
So guess what, no screening equals no flying and that’s all that happened to poor, poor lying lil Meg.
Wait until she has to back up some of these ridiculous claims.
Your 15 is over meggie.
If she would have spoken truthfully from the start then no one would have questioned her experience. Instead she exaggerated and embellished. This is the result.
I don't see the white pants lady in the first video, at what time can you see her? Also her behavior indicates that she's with tsa or police, so it's not surprising she'd still be around.
This is a whole other issue, but if this is the best they can do for surveillance ... it's atrocious.
Exactly, lady with white pants talking on cell phone is in both videos. Which indicates perhaps the videos are nearly seamless.
According to her, scott, there is space and time missing in between the two videos. Really, the bulk of her account isn't confirmed or contradicted by the footage we've been given.
After reviewing the cc video it appears that Meg may have embellished her story somewhat. If so, she should admit.
I appreciate and accept the "freedom-loving folks" living and moving to New Hampshire, but I question the carnival and circus atmosphere some bring as that seems counterproductive.
"Let the freedom-loving folks be, in NH — you got the rest of the (49 pieces of the) shithole to spend the short rest of your delusional lives in, playing real-life mortal S&M games with the TSA, FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, NSA and other deranged perverts."
I've lived in NH longer than most people in this group, as have most people in Keene. Why don't the 'freedom-loving folks' find somewhere else?
Why can't Jill & Bob & Rob & Slob & Wallace & holy & the rest of boot-lickers and brown-nosers pack their crap and get the fuck out?
Let the freedom-loving folks be, in NH -- you got the rest of the (49 pieces of the) shithole to spend the short rest of your delusional lives in, playing real-life mortal S&M games with the TSA, FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, NSA and other deranged perverts.
At this point, I don't think either source is reliable. Meg's statements (at least some of them) have been shown to be inconsistent with the video footage, and the video footage lacks time stamps.
I don't think it's fair to come to any concrete conclusions until we see the time stamps, but I *also* I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Meg was exaggerating the situation, seeing as the videos released have already shown that to be pretty true.
@ Ngdgt, did you listen to the radio show from last night? She said she was handcuffed in the screening area that the TSA didn't release video footage of. Meg was trying to get her video camera/cell phone/whatever so she could record what was going on, they wouldn't let her and handcuffed her to the chair for a couple minutes. I'll just assume it was during that time that she wasn't able to wipe her tears from her eyes -- unless you think she was lying about crying, too? Of course we won't know if she's telling the truth unless TSA releases all the video footage, but half of the time she spent with the TSA was off screen. To claim she was lying because TSA won't show you all of the footage of her being handcuffed seems far fetched. If the TSA has nothing to hide, then they should release all the footage.
And BTW, if they were recording video where they did the pat down, then Meg-types will start jumping around about being video taped while being patted down. And call it pornography, and all sorts of things. You know this is true. You can't have it both ways.
"Nope. Fail. I’m calling people out for not being brave enough to take a stand on their position. It’s easy to call people out from behind a wall. It takes actual courage to stand up for that in which you believe."
How does not knowing their e-mail or their address make what they're saying somehow less credible? They *are* taking a stand...that doesn't mean they have to tell you who they are.
You seem to be advocating for privacy in Meg's case, why not now? Where's the line?
She claims that the handcuffing (implying that she couldn't reach her face, etc), occurred during the period in between videos.
I can't know whether what she says is true, but it's not inconsistent. The videos, with no time stamps, no audio, and horrible angles, show nothing conclusive (well, other than what we already knew, that the TSA, like most federal bureaucracies, is full of waste, with lots of people standing around idle and collecting fat paychecks -- and that only people who let themselves be nudie scanned or groped by government agents will be allowed to fly, in this so called "land of the free")
"How about addressing the obvious problems with the TSA footage? It proves nothing but the government’s inherent ineptitude. And your ad-hominem attacks have done little to convince people of your case.
As such, I claim that you are liars. I’ve got about as much “proof” as you do."
Guy, don't make a fool outta yourself, especially since you've posted a picture of your mug on here. People see you on the street, they goin be like 'OMG it's that idiot from the internet!!' Do you not think the video effectively proves that she was able to wipe her tears when she said she couldn't? Does it not prove that the full body scanner was being used constantly, when she said she was the only one asked to go through? Does the video not prove that she was never cuffed to any chair like she claimed she was?
You know, I want to believe that in her distress she got the details wrong, but I cannot believe that she would confuse being able to wipe tears off her face, and not being able to do so. This, I must say is a lie, with the intention of lying.
Meg, you know it's time to drop the issue when majority of posters on your own blog are calling you out. And please explain, if you will, what exactly the lack of time stamps prove? it has been said before, you're grasping at straws.
now you’re discrediting other people for keeping their personal information private?now you’re discrediting other people for keeping their personal information private?
Nope. Fail. I'm calling people out for not being brave enough to take a stand on their position. It's easy to call people out from behind a wall. It takes actual courage to stand up for that in which you believe.
Which is also why I'm not afraid to call myself, and my site, a "bad Christian." I'd rather be honest and take a stand than a coward.
"Really, Jill and Raw Bob? I like how you won’t post with your email address or websites. What are you hiding from? Are you scorned TSA employees?"
So you're complaining that Meg's privacy has been invaded by the TSA, and now you're discrediting other people for keeping their personal information private?
Really, Jill and Raw Bob? I like how you won't post with your email address or websites. What are you hiding from? Are you scorned TSA employees?
How about addressing the obvious problems with the TSA footage? It proves nothing but the government's inherent ineptitude. And your ad-hominem attacks have done little to convince people of your case.
As such, I claim that you are liars. I've got about as much "proof" as you do.
Meg, you're a liar. Just come clean and speak the truth. You've grossly exaggerated what happened to you and you're doing a disservice to everyone. Yes, the TSA sucks, but you're the one who's lying. And, to cite the lack of a time code as evidence that the video is fake is ridiculous.
No, releasing the video definitely wasn't in her plan and thus all the media coaching on FTL last night and very few "tough questions."
They take her OFF camera where she's surrounded by, obviously, hostile folks and remove the timecode. THIS is "evidence"??? You can't even see anything in this footage. It would be useless for keeping track of my pets!! This is how they "combat" terrorism? With molestation and crappy footage of their "effort"?
Bollocks. Total Bollocks.
The TSA's releasing the video wasn't part of your plan, was it Meg?
You are a liar, plain and simple
"In the controversy surrounding the TSA intimidating Free Keene blogger Meg McLain and removing her from the Ft. Lauderdale airport, someone’s lying, and we know who has a history of lying: The TSA. "
We're talking about who is lying in this situation. How is your point (above) relevant?
Meg McLain is a liar. And so are you.