Power-Hungry Judge Threatens Courtroom and Jury in Ross Ulbricht Trial Over Jury Outreach

Jury Nullification Outrach Outside Ross Ulbricht Trial

Jury Nullification Outrach Outside Ross Ulbricht Trial

Liberty activists are reluctantly backing down from their jury outreach projects outside the Manhattan federal courthouse, but not because an insane robed person threatened the entire courtroom and jury over the activists’ signs and pamphlets yesterday afternoon. As reported here yesterday, the federal gang is pulling out all the stops to prevent jurors from accessing information about jury nullification.

They dismissed jurors who admitted to seeing signs or looking at activists’ fliers. However, that wasn’t enough for the woman in the robe, Katherine Bolan Forrest. Philly liberty superactivist James Babb explains:

Evidently, despite the millions of dollars spent and incalculable power of the state, Judge Katherine Forrest feared that a few folks with pamphlets could upset their steamrolling operation. As predicted, a juror with a conscience and knowledge of their power terrifies these petty tyrants. The billboard campaign and the pamphleting op were referenced on multiple occasions. Selecting an uninformed jury became a top priority for the prosecution and their subservient judge…

Free Keene Bloggers James Cleaveland and Jay Freeville Outside the Ulbricht Trial

Free Keene Bloggers James Cleaveland and Jay Freeville Outside the Ulbricht Trial

Basically, she decreed that if the independent volunteers didn’t stop informing jurors of their right to nullify unjust and misapplied laws, she would “annonymize” the jury, bussing them in from a secret location, blocking their contact from the outside world. Of course, the jurors won’t be told that they are being “protected” from a 100% factual pamphlet about their indisputable rights. Instead, they will thank the judge for protecting them from a dangerous crime boss. Experts have confirmed that this is a credible threat…

After careful consideration, we have decided to postpone the pamphleting operation until the hostage is recovered safely. However, the offending judge will not be forgotten. She will become accustomed to dealing with informed jurors. We will not be intimidated. We will not abandon our mission. Forrest’s grumpiness confirms what we already knew. They are scared of the truth. They fear for their house of cards.

Pamphleting at this court will resume at a later date. The kiosk ad campaign will continue. If you want to help expand it, you can participate here.

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55 comments
Quisno Rodonovich
Quisno Rodonovich

Oh by the way its good to visit a site which can allow you to understand the problems in this nations narrative, for the federal government hire people to take any to task who may have ideas which can grow within the minds of the masses . this first site explains the divisions going on in this nation and the world It took several years to compile so as to allow most of the people to understand our plight. http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm In it you will see how Georg Hegel could take arguments and always put them into more perspectives thus defusing any debate. Saul Alinsky on the other hand made the rules for radicals so that governments could always make the people feel lessor in their abilities to comprehend the issues. The issues? you and my freedoms and the dissolving of a Republic and turning it into a fascist dictatorship.

justintempler
justintempler

Joshua Dratel, an attorney for the defense, explicitly disavowed the jury nullification protesters outside. “People think they’re helping the defense, but they’re not.” Ross's attorney must be a tyrant too :)

Doug Nusbaum
Doug Nusbaum

Perhaps you could just dump the kiosk and have several people handing out fliers :-) Discretely of course

justintempler
justintempler

Doing it discretely defeats the whole purpose of their activism.

RadicalAwesomeDude
RadicalAwesomeDude

The religion of Statism demands that we follow the legal scriptures of the religion regardless of how stupid or destructive: From Abe Lincoln's speech known as the "Lyceum Address" (1838) http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm "Let reverence for the laws, be breathed by every American mother, to the lisping babe, that prattles on her lap--let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in Primers, spelling books, and in Almanacs;--let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political religion of the nation; and let the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues, and colors and conditions, sacrifice unceasingly upon its altars." "But I do mean to say, that, although bad laws, if they exist, should be repealed as soon as possible, still while they continue in force, for the sake of example, they should be religiously observed." Ross is just another attempted sacrifice on the altar of the "State(s)", the deity/deities of the government religion.

Sammy
Sammy

Thanks for taking time away from jerking off to images of young boys and playing XBox* to post your thought-provoking messages. Much appreciated. *An assumption on my part, but I'll bet I'm real close.

Ed
Ed

That Lincoln guy should have been shot.

Sammy
Sammy

If you think a law is bad, but I think it's good - then who gets their way? In the mind of a freetard, there is this self-defined aura of divine manifest destiny that somehow qualifies them to judge which laws are good and which ones are bad. The rest of us just go to the ballot box and deal with it that way - you know - democratically. Oh, right: freetards don't like democracy because they get all butthurt when they don't get their way. Aww ... poor freetards.

Sammy
Sammy

And regarding your ridiculous notion of "jury nullifcation": If, in the opinion of the judge, the jury has rendered a verdict based upon nullification, he/she can issue a directed verdict - especially at the Federal level. Game, set, match. So STFU, Bernard. You and the rest of the Free Keene Douchebag Squad are just pissing into the wind.

justintempler
justintempler

Apparently too technical for you too, at least Sammy tries to understand which is more than we can say for you.

state hater
state hater

How many gallons of tyrant semen have you swallowed so far?

TaxCattleShephard
TaxCattleShephard

Aww did little Sammy get upset.. go tell it to your fucking dog bitch.

Sammy
Sammy

Since you are obviously a pedophile, I'll bet you know a lot about public schools.

RadicalAwesomeDude
RadicalAwesomeDude

Ya the thing is these pathologically narcissistic cult leaders don't want to just admit that the whole jury theater is a dog and pony show which is what it would amount to. They want it to make it look like a real trial happened where a case was actually proven. Just turning it into such a blatant sham could undermine the faith of the cult's adherents(the source of income for the wizard priest in the harry potter robe).

justintempler
justintempler

Sammy, As much as I usually agree with you, you are wrong about directed verdicts. Directed verdicts can not be used to overturn jury nullification. A Directed verdict can only be used to override a guilty verdict.

Drac Vermell
Drac Vermell

The fact that you support a judge's opinion of guilt or innocence over that of a jury's in a criminal trial says a lot about your character Sammy. If judges could make verdicts without juries, then what would be the purpose of juries? Audience participation? The purpose of juries is to protect the accused from the depredations of the state, not simply to determine the accused's innocence or guilt. Still, Sammy, you are correct. Although the legal practice of directed verdict has been replaced by the concept of Judgment as a Matter of Law (JMOL), this concept has been used historically to confine juries to the province of fact-finding, and thus flout any attempts made by juries to nullify laws. Logistically, trial proceedings require that the prosecution move for a JMOL prior to the verdict. Should the motion be rejected and if the jury should return a verdict of not guilty, the prosecution can then move for a Judgment Notwithstanding Verdict (JNOV). This allows the judge to re-examine his previous rejection of the JMOL motion and (possibly) override a jury's "not guilty" verdict. This is a perverse interpretation of the 7th Amendment, but then you can't expect criminals to follow the rules, even the rules they write themselves. I don't believe that these motions will ever be used by the prosecution in Ulbrecht's case. They won't have to, since trials at the federal level rarely consist of jurors knowledgeable about their nullification rights.

JonnyBGood
JonnyBGood

That wind is blowing in your direction.

TaxCattleShephard
TaxCattleShephard

Okay that it was too technical for Sammy...he went to a public school after all.

Sammy
Sammy

Looks like you're the one that's upset, Mr. Diddler.

Sammy
Sammy

" reluctantly backing down from their jury outreach projects outside the Manhattan federal courthouse" Translation: "I don't want to go to a real jail here in NYC. They're real scary down here - not like in Keene."

state hater
state hater

Translation: "My name is Sammy, and I'm a demented piece of shit who spends his time on a pro-liberty blog advocating for the enslavement of mankind."

MaineShark
MaineShark

To those capable of reading, the article is very clear that it was the judge's threat to harm the jury by cutting them off from contact with the outside world which prompted the nullification advocates to take that action.

state hater
state hater

Tyrants deserve to hang from lamp posts.

Jason Free 123
Jason Free 123

Sammy is Youtube troll ArrestAJudgeKit aka Terry Nemmers

Ed
Ed

Sammy deserves to hang from a lamp post.

state hater
state hater

Since you think that laws are sacred, you must think that segregation laws were great before they were overturned.

Sammy
Sammy

I'll meet you on the common, Ed; come see if you can try. You had better bring some friends to give yourselves a fighting chance.

state hater
state hater

It's hilarious that you flag-waving shitheads brag about how free 'Murricuh is, while simultaneously fighting tooth-and-nail to have the state punish people for doing things that make you butthurt.

Quisno Rodonovich
Quisno Rodonovich

Drac Im just a mining engineer, and am like a squirrel trying to find a nut. I have dedicated my life to finding answers not more questions. debate is like a scalpel which slowly peals away each layer of BS to get to the real truth.

state hater
state hater

That may have something to do with their knowledge that they'll be victimized by the state if they don't use the state to resolve conflicts, you idiot.

Sammy
Sammy

You do realize your statement is an implied threat of violence against a Federal Judge, right? I wonder how big-and-bad you would be if they came to arrest your ass? I think the statement "screaming and crying like a little girl" probably sums it up.

state hater
state hater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio (1) There's no imminent lawless action inherent in the post, since "deserve" is a far cry from "I/we will go ahead and do this right now." Hell, people can say that Obama deserves to be tried for war crimes, found guilty, and executed, and, legally, nothing can happen to them. (2) No specific person is named (you'll notice, dumbfuck, that a singular noun isn't even used, with "Tyrants" instead being referred to).

Bevin Chu
Bevin Chu

Isn't it funny how clueless apologists for government bullying such as "Sammy" invariably prove the very point they attempt to disprove?

state hater
state hater

Sammy the retard did self-pwn pretty badly. :P

justintempler
justintempler

What's funny is many state haters are the 1st pansies to go running to law enforcement for protection when the shit hits the fan. i.e. Chris Cantwell, David Crawford

Sammy
Sammy

Funny how - when it suits your needs - you freetards run for cover under the very same laws and system that you supposedly despise. What a bunch of ignorant, hypocritical douchebags.

Sammy
Sammy

Of course they do. Guys like Crawford and Cantwell are a couple of losers who are all talk and no action, running to law enforcement after creating problems for themselves by running their mouths. It's just a matter of time before Karma catches up with those two douchebags.

justintempler
justintempler

I think Crawford is too much of a pansie to get himself into trouble, Cantwell on the other hand is an attention whore that acts 1st and thinks afterwards and it's just a matter of time until he ends up in what FK refers to as the Keene Spiritual Retreat B&B

Sammy
Sammy

Not me personally, but for doing things that are contrary to our laws. The only people butthurt are ignorant freetards like yourself who run around and spout nonsensical phrases like "no victim no crime". Does your Mom know you're up past your bedtime, btw?

jeb
jeb

Being the toughest tough guy in the comments section of FK is like winning the Special Olympics; You're still retarded. Ol' Sammy acting hard on internet again. Anonymously, no less. He'll meet you in the common when he's done watching my little pony, Ed. Bring your friends and make sure you all fix on your brony tails for him.

Sammy
Sammy

Finally the key word: "Overturned". No law in this country is set in stone. If enough people want change and our elected leaders have the political will to make that change then it will happen. You freetards piss everyone off with your juvenile, self-aggrandizing bullshit, hence you don't get anywhere. Everyone is laughing at losers like you and could care less about your idiotic point of view.

Sammy
Sammy

Jeb: the product of two siblings who in turn married his own sister and perpetuated the half-wit bloodline. Given that family bloodline of yours, you are undoubtedly intimately familiar with issues related to the Special Olympics.

Quisno Rodonovich
Quisno Rodonovich

This is just for you Sammy!!! Didn't Thomas Jefferson say that the blood of Tyrants and citizens feed the tree of freedom from time to time? Am I now included in this group of Implied violence?? "You who censure others censure yourselves " Daniel Boone . Oh! and freedom and justice are only words you the people must precipitate them. it wouild seem that there are 4 boxes the speaking box the voters box the jury box last but not least is the patch box. If they were around today the 3% of 1776 would tell you that words have power but actions speaks with more power. Now where are we at? You who profess your power? well heres a site which will enable more power to you the true holder in due course http://utah.gov/ltgovernor/docs/CDC-AGLandsTransferHB148SummaryInteractive.pdf this is spreading like jury nullification So now where are we? we dam sure aren't in Kansas and the OZ has been shewn for the lack of clothes he possesses I work in the lands Board of Idaho I place myself where my mouth is. We have the eyes and ears of our newly elected representitives. This tyranny is real people.you people must wake up

Sammy
Sammy

"representitives" ? LoL. I'll bet you place yourself where a lot of other people's mouths are as well, Internet Warrior. Two things for you: 1. Learn the proper use of English grammar and punctuation; 2. As part of #1, learn how to spell.

Quisno Rodonovich
Quisno Rodonovich

Sammy you understood what I said so in your embarrassment for what you said you attack like an animal too bad for I feel you do have worth if only to yourself. Oh and you never answered the question posed to you. remember I understand the 12 rules of Saul Alinsky also, dont make me use them to show what your up to. OK?

Drac Vermell
Drac Vermell

Please excuse Sammy's boorish nature, Quisno. He's unable to control himself. Women and the rest of the world ignore him, so he trolls here for the purposes of emotional validation. It's important to remember that Sammy is also very sensitive about his intelligence. Even though it's two standard deviations from the norm, it's that it's below the norm that makes him so angry. This is the reason why he hates spelling errors so much. Unlike most adult readers, he must sound out each word individually in order to comprehend them. Improper spelling just makes that task more difficult for him.

Drac Vermell
Drac Vermell

Oh, and I forgot to compliment you in my last comment, Quisno. That was a great catch with your mention of Saul Alinsky. A lot of libertarians are either unfamiliar with or have outright disdain for Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals", preferring to reap persuasion through reason rather than through deception.

Ian Freeballing
Ian Freeballing

Two thoughts on this Quisno: that land belongs to the American people, not Utah. This proposal has as much chance of success as Ian Freeman being elected President. Don't get me wrong, the PDF is very pretty, well designed, written, etc. It will also never, in a million years, happen. And I am thankful for that. Second, libertarians should enjoy their brief moment in the sun as it's about to disappear like a fart in the wind. (If it even registers to that degree.) Now that Republicans have control of congress, you're going to see all this talk of tyrants and revolution and fascism disappear. This rhetoric was mainly driven by tea-party morons who couldn't handle the idea of a black man in the Oval Office. So, again, enjoy it while you can.

Quisno Rodonovich
Quisno Rodonovich

Ian first off let me say thankyou for your response . there isnt one penny difference between the 2 parties. Because of federal mandates created by the 14th amendment and the A1871 organic act now the federal government can own land. The commerce Clause allows the federal government to set its policies. We are still a Republic therefore we are, if we so want to be, State citizens. but our court systems are now set up for the 14th amendment. no rights only allowances. Barron VS baltimore shows you that we are citisens within our States not from within the federal Government. Thus land belongs in holding within the state structure for the peoples uses. This part has went unnoticed. As a mining engineer my job is fighjing with EPA? (EPA is a UN agency not U.S.... That leaves DEQ State quality control. You say that the states should not have the land >?>> Well on this land that the Federal government controls are the debts they have made in our honor upon our shoulders as they sell our land to foreign countries. AKA Hage VS Forest service. As in that suit the foraging animals of that ranch strayed into an area that the Forest service had sold the lands to the Emerites of the Saudi as well as the water. the Judge found for the plaintiff becuase foraging animals need water and cant tell the difference. If the state cant hold that land for the interests of their people then you have a socialist fascist dictatorship as only governments hold lands away from the people. and allow Corporations to buy and sell those lands this is just a start illl let you answer.

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  1. […] to mark the beginning of the trial of Ross Ulbricht, the accused operator of the Silk Road. Judge Katherine Forrest did not like the jury rights advocacy happening outside at all. The fliers apparently made it to some of the potential jurors, so she dismissed the jurors who saw […]

  2. […] According to jury rights activist James Babb, “Basically, she decreed that if the independent volunteers didn’t stop informing jurors of their right to nullify unjust and misapplied laws, she would “annonymize” the jury, bussing them in from a secret location, blocking their contact from the outside world. Of course, the jurors won’t be told that they are being “protected” from a 100% factual pamphlet about their indisputable rights. Instead, they will thank the judge for protecting them from a dangerous crime boss.” […]

  3. […] According to jury rights activist James Babb, “Basically, she decreed that if the independent volunteers didn’t stop informing jurors of their right to nullify unjust and misapplied laws, she would “annonymize” the jury, bussing them in from a secret location, blocking their contact from the outside world. Of course, the jurors won’t be told that they are being “protected” from a 100% factual pamphlet about their indisputable rights. Instead, they will thank the judge for protecting them from a dangerous crime boss.” […]

  4. […] According to jury rights activist James Babb, “Basically, she decreed that if the independent volunteers didn’t stop informing jurors of their right to nullify unjust and misapplied laws, she would “annonymize” the jury, bussing them in from a secret location, blocking their contact from the outside world. Of course, the jurors won’t be told that they are being “protected” from a 100% factual pamphlet about their indisputable rights. Instead, they will thank the judge for protecting them from a dangerous crime boss.” […]

  5. […] right for jury nullification as a last ditch effort for Ross have some sort of defense, the judge threatens to have jurors driven in after media blackout which would only have made jurors more skeptical […]

  6. […] nullification outreach in front of the courthouse. As a result, the tyrannical judge in the case threatened the jury with sequestering if the activists didn’t stop their free speech. After a meeting with Ross’ mother, Lyn, the activists agreed to back […]

  7. […] nullification outreach in front of the courthouse. As a result, the tyrannical judge in the case threatened the jury with sequestering if the activists didn’t stop their free speech. After a meeting with Ross’ mother, Lyn, the activists agreed to back […]

  8. […] person. As for (B), Forrest allowed irregularities by the prosecution in the Ulbricht case and denied the jury important information that they would need in order to make a fair decision. This amounts […]

  9. […] person. As for (B), Forrest allowed irregularities by the prosecution in the Ulbricht case and denied the jury important information that they would need in order to make a fair decision. This amounts […]

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