Free Staters Derail Nashua Minimum Wage Hike Rally

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Today there was a rally in Nashua to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. They thought it would be a quick, one-sided media circus to portray the wage hike as an issue with unanimous consent. They thought wrong.

I ventured down to Nashua with a party of counter-protesters including Free Keene bloggers Rob Mathias and Wendy French to make sure both sides of the issue were accurately represented. What we found was a bus full of big government advocates completely unprepared for a turnout of actual concerned citizens.

Our impromptu happy little gaggle of activists made up a full quarter to third of those in attendance, and this made the rest, who had planned on a rally without dissent, visibly minimum2uncomfortable. Once the press conference was over we were swarmed by reporters itching to catch the underrepresented other side of the story. One of them couldn’t believe we were just concerned citizens and not “with someone.”

We also ran into a friendly local who worked nearby and stopped in to have his voice heard. He was happy to see that he wasn’t alone in fighting for liberty in the Granite State.

It’s important to note that when it comes to making a difference, 90% of the battle is just showing up. The encroachment of the state relies on its opponents just staying home and not getting involved. Make the time, show up, and make a difference for liberty.

 

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37 Comments

  1. It is a good thing to destroy the free speech of unpopular groups, especially those on the left..

    Like what happened to good effect at the end of the Weimar Republic.

    I am confident that with tactics like this, your side will win in the contested nation of America.

    Well-done!

  2. how did they destroy anyone’s free speech?

  3. What they derailed was a one-sided discussion and they brought the other side of the argument to the public square, thus offering actual balance. I didn’t read anything about disrupting the folks who wanted to raise the minimum wage or anything like that.

  4. ^^See Troll TaxiManSteve

  5. Trololol!!!

  6. By not holding your own anti-minimum wage rally; and instead poisoning this one…

  7. Where were they bussed in from?

  8. When you write stories like this, using the headline and language presented here, and then it turns out that 4 people went and stood in a spot you look like clowns. Use honest language and honest headlines to present facts and then argue your position.

    The hyperbole free staters engage serves only to make them look silly. The solution to the very serious global issues will not be addressed by silly people.

    It’s my opinion that Ian specifically but many others as well view their silly rhetoric as an industry above all else. There is easy money to be made peddling to those attracted to their so called movement. Kudos to them on identifying a ripe market of rubes.

  9. They were doing some bus tour all over to raise the wage laws.

  10. No free speech was destroyed. The ideology was merely challenged. Protestors should never whine about being protested. I like how when westboro baptist tries to protest others show up to protest them. Don’t you?

  11. Proponents of a $10.10 per hour minimum wage ought to be ashamed of themselves. They are probably a bunch of spoiled liberals who have never tried to live on $10.10 an hour. The minimum wage should be at least $150 per hour, but anyone who honestly cares about eliminating income disparity ought to be advocating for an across-the-board minimum wage of $500 per hour. It’s too bad the author didn’t out the organizers of this rally by name for their clear rejection of wage fairness.

  12. If there is another change for a counter demonstration some signs could read along the lines of “Why not $150 an hour?” or “We demand $500 an hour!” It might come off as passive-aggressive but it would really challenge some cognitive dissonance IMO.

  13. Counter-protesting evil groups is legitimate speech, and does not destroy theirs.

    Given that the minimum wage is one of the most racist laws out there, counter-protesting it is similar to counter-protesting the Klan and other hate groups.

  14. I’ve read this twice and I don’t see any dishonest language. It refers to “a party” of counter-protesters, and a “happy little gaggle” plus one “friendly local.” Nowhere does the author imply any more than five people were counter-protesting. You complain because they “stood in a spot.” Is standing in a spot dishonest? You complain about hyperbole. Where’s the hyperbole? They even describe the main protesters as “a bus full” so there’s no danger of thinking the counter-protesters outnumbered the main protesters. And you go so far as to call them “silly” for peacefully and civilly exercising their constitutionally protected free speech rights.

    Seriously, JohnR, I find the freestaters as annoying as anyone when they’re engaged in antisocial shenanigans and I support criticizing them when then happens, but when they do things properly, as clearly they did here, and then someone like you complains “use honest language” and “hyperbole” then you taint all opponents of freestaters with the negative impression you make of yourself as a whiny spoiled child who just wants attention.

  15. “Poisoning?” Lol. How many people were hospitalized for this poisoning? I’m pretty sure poisoning is a crime. If you have information about a poisoning, perhaps you ought to alert the authorities, not to mention the victims. Talk about hyperbole!

  16. Did the free staters obstruct the progress of those demonstrating in favor of a minimum wage increase? Did the free staters upset the stability or composure of those rallying in favor of a minimum wage increase?

    I would argue that given it was four of them standing quietly in one spot, one would have to answer no to my above questions. If one were to answer no to the above questions then a headline that reads, “Free Staters Derail Nashua Minimum Wage Hike Rally,’ is at best hyperbole. They were present but hardly a disrupting or derailing force.

    When you write, “Our impromptu happy little gaggle of activists made up a full quarter to third of those in attendance…” you are using language typically reserved for estimating crowd sizes when a head count would not be possible or would present difficulties in accuracy. If there were four of them then it would be simple arithmetic to calculate either a “full quarter to third” given there would be around a dozen people in attendance. An article on how only a dozen people showed up at a pro-minimum wage rally would demonstrate how little support exists for raising the minimum wage.

    Your attempt to ascribe positions to me that I have not stated and you do not know that I hold is a well understood tactic. You are disingenuous when you go on to call me out on the false narrative that you created. Show me anything that allows you to arrive at this statement, “And you go so far as to call them “silly” for peacefully and civilly exercising their constitutionally protected free speech rights.” My words are plain as day and you will not find anything close to that here.

    When you wrote this, “The minimum wage should be at least $150 per hour, but anyone who
    honestly cares about eliminating income disparity ought to be advocating for an across-the-board minimum wage of $500 per hour.” Is that hyperbole or just genuine silliness?

  17. You realize that one of the creators of this site endorsed the above mentioned “troll” for school board in the last election. Ian asked that people engage in bullet voting for TaxiManSteve. Unless I am mistaken I believe the SWL in question is in fact the same person.

  18. That is indeed me… Taking on ensconced educationalcrats or jolly bus-loads of Free Staters crashing minimum wage supporters’ rallies.

    Now, I move on, to take on some sacred elephants in my hometown.

    Chow!

  19. “A quarter to a third” ? LoL … my buddy was covering the event for a local rag and he said there were 3 or 4 of you there. funny how he didn’t see the need to interview any of you fruitcakes.

  20. $150 / hour? Julia – you’re an idiot.

  21. Did the free staters obstruct the progress of those demonstrating in favor of a minimum wage increase?

    Did the author claim to have “obstructed progress?” No, and no.

    Did the free staters upset the stability or composure of those rallying in favor of a minimum wage increase?

    Did the author claim to have “upset stability” or “composure? No, and no.

    Do you know what “derailing” means? It’s a railroad metaphor. The tracks go in one direction, and when a train is “derailed” it goes in an unintended direction. The organizers of this demonstration wanted it to be a quick, one-sided media circus to portray the wage hike as an issue with unanimous consent. The event did not go in the direction they intended, hence it was “derailed,” thus the word “derailed” is a perfectly apt description of the events. Surely you’re not going to claim that you thought the author was talking about a literal transportation accident!

    Therefore your assertion that “If one were to answer no to the above questions then [that] headline..is at best hyperbole,” is not only false, it is itself hyperbole! Your attempt to ascribe positions to the author that he had not stated and you do not know that he holds is a well understood tactic.

    Show me anything that allows you to arrive at this statement, “And you go so far as to call them “silly”…My words are plain as day and you will not find anything close to that here.

    I give you, your own words:

    The solution to the very serious global issues will not be addressed by silly people.

    Really, JohnR, either you’re not paying very close attention to what you yourself are writing, or else you think the readers of this blog aren’t paying very close attention to what you are writing.

  22. Please read what I wrote. I said $500 per hour would be preferable. That’s far less than Jamie Dimon receives in salary and compensation, so it’s still probably low, but it at least would be an appropriate improvement.

  23. Merriam Webster defines “derail” as follows:

    transitive verb
    1. to cause to run off the rails
    2 a : to obstruct the progress of : frustrate
    b : to upset the stability or composure of

    You asked the following questions:

    “Did the author claim to have “obstructed progress?”
    Did the author claim to have “upset stability” or “composure?
    Do you know what “derailing” means?”

    The answer to all of the questions is yes. See the above definition if you require any more clarification. Did you think the word choice on those questions I asked was random? Considering you have acknowledged that they did not do anything that meets the definition of “derailing” we are in agreement on what took place at the rally.

    Merriam Webster defines “hyperbole” is as follows:

    “language that describes something as better or worse than it really is”

    If we are in agreement, which your own words now clearly indicate, that no “derailing” took place then my original point on “hyperbole” stands.

    I wrote, “The hyperbole free staters engage serves only to make them look silly.” The hyperbole is what makes them look silly. See the above definition on “hyperbole” if you require any further clarification. You would somehow have to claim that hyperbole and “peacefully and civilly exercising their constitutionally protected free speech rights,” are one and the same. Are you claiming that those two things are one and the same?

  24. touché

  25. Please read what I wrote: you’re an idiot.

    Jamie Dimon is the chairman of a large bank. What is with you people that somehow someone working at Starbucks as a Barista is worth the same amount of pay as a bank chairman?

    Get a clue.

  26. My buddy was there covering this “event” for a local newspaper. He said the FS’ers did nothing more than just stand there and were ignored for the most part. Hardly a “derailing” of the event. LoL … idiots.

  27. LoL … no they didn’t. The article quote some of you as individuals and not part of any “movement”. Not once is the FSP mentioned in the article. You’re a joke.

  28. If you’re such a fan of income disparity and wage-injustice, then maybe you should be out there holding a sign along with the keeniacs. Sounds like you guys are on the same page when it comes to oppressing labor.

  29. That’s even better, since we didn’t mention the FSP at all. And we didn’t come as FSP participants anyway… we came as concerned individuals on purely our own initiative. Which makes it seem like exactly what it was: the people’s voice. 🙂

  30. We were the entire audience. Literally, everyone there who wasn’t bused in. And even counting them, we were still at least a quarter.

  31. When I got counter protesters at the 4:20 Rally, I figured we had arrived. My stating my dissent does not destroy your free speech. It counters ideas with ideas, and may the best ideas (those of liberty) win. It is only when the response to speech is violence that the line is crossed. Although you are wrong about minimum wage, and in your ignorance advocate policies that spread unemployment and poverty and force jobs overseas, I will fight to the death for your right to protest … and for our right to counter-protest.

  32. By intimidating others…. Clearly you weren’t invited; and Nashua is a big city… Many other public places to go… Instead of getting in the face of these pro-labor people… Labor has had to face repression, official and private for decades and decades… So every laborite feels the legacy of fear, even through we are the ones called “thugs.”

  33. You can counter-protest all you want, and I will counter-counter protest by calling you and your associates lackeys of our corporate overlords!

  34. You can do so. But I rather think that the “corporate overlords” benefit from high unemployment, since they are the ones who have huge established businesses. Since they have huge resources, they can do things like replace people with machines and move their operations overseas when the minimum wage goes up. But a mom and pop shop has to lay of employees or even go out of business, if they are not turning much profit to begin with. So the minimum wage kills jobs in marginal small business by putting them out of business or forcing them to cut back their operations, and also kills jobs by requiring businesses to replace people with machines or move their operations overseas. Why do things get produced in China rather than here? Because it is CHEAPER THERE!

  35. 5 disorganized people? You look like a bunch of aimless reactionary right-wing tea party pundits instead of an organized coalition of people who want to create awareness. Do yourselves a favor and take a seat.

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