BREAKING: Cantwell Denied Bail, Called Danger to Community Due to Computer Secrecy Knowledge

#FreeCantwell

First they came for the racist assholes…

Christopher Cantwell is not a nice guy. In fact, he used to carry a business card around that had this tagline on it: “Anarchist Atheist Asshole”. At least, that was back when he was a libertarian anarchist. Now he’s become the very thing that he then hated – a total statist. Several years ago, Cantwell changed from being a crass libertarian comedian – who never showed any racist beliefs – into a racist podcast host that then made a splash of publicity when VICE focused on him after his participation in the Charlottesville conflicts.

Along the way, whether as part of the libertarian migration to New Hampshire or later as part of a group of despicable NAZIs and other assorted white nationalist types, Cantwell has always been a polarizing figure and has caused schisms and drama withing whatever movement he put himself. This is one of the factors that leads people to believe that Cantwell himself is a federal agent. Having spent many hours with him over the years, I don’t believe he is a federal agent.

One thing’s for sure, Cantwell did do a lot of talking to federal agents in the last few years, and he allegedly even admitted to them having sent the messages he’s now been charged with sending via the Telegram chat app. The FBI raided his house last month on two felony charges, one of “Exortionate Interstate Communications” and one of “Threatening Interstate Communications”. Here’s the two-page indictment. In it, Cantwell is accused of sending the following message to someone over Telegram: “So if you don’t want me to come and fuck your wife in front of your kids, then you should make yourself scarce Give me Vic, it’s your only out.”

The feds are arguing that this is a rape threat. Beyond the fact that Cantwell didn’t say he would rape the woman, a little background and context is important to know. According to testimony at the detention hearing in federal court in Concord NH, the as-yet unrevealed “victim” in this case never complained to the feds about the message, but he did post it publicly online where a federal agent on the West Coast spotted it. The supposed victim is allegedly a member of an internet hate group called “Bowl Patrol”. The group is named as such because they worship the sicko church shooter Dylan Roof and he apparently had a bowl haircut. A Manchester police officer who works closely with the FBI testified that the “Bowl Patrol” was targeting Cantwell’s podcast phone lines with awful calls and allegedly hacked Cantwell’s website. That led Cantwell to attempt to discover their identities and to the chat where he threatened to have sex with the man’s wife if he didn’t give up the identity of the “Bowl Patrol” leader, “Vic”.

Chris in Simpler Times, Acting as Security for the Hallowkeene Dance Party in 2014.

Cantwell’s racist views are despicable, but the “Bowl Patrol” people may be worse, if that’s possible. Either way, it’s just white hate group members fighting with each other. If they are busy infighting, they can’t be out doing publicly awful things. Rather than just let the white supremacists have their internet spats, the FBI used the fact that Cantwell trash-talked someone on the internet – free speech – to charge him with felonies for which he faces up to 25 years in prison.

That’s twenty-five years for the level of trash-talking that goes on all across the internet, every day. Cantwell’s persecution here is an attack against freedom of speech and also served as an excuse to take his computers, flash drives, guns, and drugs. There’s no doubt that he has a ton of bad karma out there waiting for him for the things he’s said and done, but that doesn’t mean he belongs in prison. Yes, he’s a rude guy with a big mouth and terrible, disgusting ideas, and that’s why he’s a perfect target for a government attack on freedom of speech.

In Pastor Martin Niemoller’s famous poem from 1946, Niemoller wrote:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

In 2020, first they came for the “Crying NAZI”. I don’t agree with what he says, but I will defend his right to say it. Cantwell is a target because not only does he have views that good people will detest, he’s also detested by people who hold similar views to his. Not one single supporter was at his bail hearing. He may still have a small fan club on the internet, but according to the federal government, he doesn’t have much money in the bank.

However, Cantwell does know about cryptocurrency and internet privacy tools like Signal and Telegram. The agent who testified, Brett Fernald, explained that Cantwell used bitcoin and that bitcoin could be used to hide money and was anonymous. Though that’s not true – bitcoin is completely trackable. It’s Monero that’s a privacy coin. Anyway, according to the robed woman called a “magistrate judge”, Andrea K Johnstone, in a nine-page detention order, Cantwell’s computer knowledge is one reason he can’t be allowed out of a cage even with severe restrictions like gps tracking and even being disallowed from the internet, to which the defense was readily willing to agree.

The feds also argued at the hearing that Cantwell can’t be relied on to make it to court and cited the fact that he was drunk while on bail in Virginia, despite the fact that he never missed a single court appearance. When Cantwell was informed he was wanted on a warrant for his actions in Charlottesville in 2017 he took a week to turn himself in. Cantwell’s public defender pointed out that he wanted to acquire an attorney before turning himself in, which he did do. However because Cantwell didn’t IMMEDIATELY turn himself in, the prosecutors submitted that was a reason he wouldn’t show up to court.

Political Prisoner, Christopher Cantwell

Political Prisoner, Christopher Cantwell

Though Cantwell says he was acting in self-defense in the Charlottesville fights, he took a plea deal on assault and battery charges and that was brought up as evidence of why he’s a supposed danger to the community. That’s despite the fact that Chris has since kept to himself and his apartment in Keene since 2017 and that prior to that he was not known for any violent acts.

Further, they made him out to be meth-crazed lunatic. He may be a lunatic in his beliefs, and who knows what role his meth use several years ago had in forming his current racist mindset, but he’s been off the meth for a long time. A drug screening when he was arrested in January only showed cannabis use, according to the evidence in the case.

During the hearing, Johnstone, overruled every one of the defense’s objections and in her detention order agreed with the prosecution’s ridiculous assertions that Cantwell is somehow a danger to the community. In the order, She cited also his legal possession of over a dozen various guns, including one found inside an unlocked case magnetically attached underneath his car. Johnstone even parrots the prosecution’s point that somehow this was a danger to the school across the street from his apartment.

The guns, alleged threats, drugs, bail violation, plea deals to violent crimes, were all cited by Johnstone as factors, but most critically it seemed that it was Cantwell’s knowledge about internet secrecy techniques that is really keeping him behind bars. Johnstone wrote, citing another case on the matter, US v Savader:

given the defendant’s demonstrated facility with computer technology, it would be all but impossible to fashion terms and conditions that would eliminate defendant’s access to… certain electronic files that could be used to threaten victims

Now the case moves to trial, ostensibly set for April. The federal government has already spent likely tens of thousands of dollars on the court hearings alone, not to mention who knows how much more money on investigating Cantwell over years. After all that money and effort, some internet trash-talk between despicable people is all they have to go after him on. If Cantwell is convicted here, he’ll be a proverbial canary in the coal mine. The federal government would like to get a conviction here so there’s a precedent set for prosecuting people who say ugly things. Who will be targeted next? Maybe some trash-talking teens on an Xbox or Playstation online video game?

If you’d like an in-depth discussion of my experience attending the detention hearings, please listen to this episode of Free Talk Live. This link will start you where the topic comes up. Stay tuned here to Free Keene for the latest on Chris Cantwell, political prisoner. #FreeCantwell

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30 Comments

  1. #FreeCantwell!

  2. #FreeCantwell

    We already know whose next: Anybody who advocates freedom. I won’t say I like or don’t like Cantwell. I nor anybody should have to apologize or have shit assumed about them for stepping up and defending freedom regardless of who the victim is. Whether it’s a rapist, a murder, a kkk member, a priest, a politician, none of it matters. Don’t stand up for the most detested people and you will be next in line for the chopping block. There is plenty of evidence that they are targeting freedom-loving people via immoral behavior.

    Scaring somebody into committing a felony is fucked up and yet they do it routinely to those whom advocate cryptocurrency. Selling crypto isn’t a crime, but they damn well don’t care. They will buy some crypto a handful of times and then come out as a cocaine and heroin kingpin halfway through a transaction upon which you would reasonably fear for your life should you do the legal thing and immediately halt the transaction.

    They have done it to others who advocate open access to copyright-free legal case information. People like Aaron Swartz. They attacked Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht for advocating free markets. They attacked Wikileaks and founder Julian Assange for publishing information the government and many politicians didn’t like. They went after Nobody (formally known as Rich Paul) in an effort to disrupt the Keene activist center. The FBI raided Free Talk Live in an attempt to ruin the reputation of a nationally syndicated radio show that had just two weeks prior criticized the FBI for hypocritically distributing child porn while claiming child porn hurts children. Maybe that’s true, but then the FBI IS HURTING CHILDREN! Don’t dare call out the head banging hypocrisy of the FBI though! Ohh no. And you know actual child porn was never even found because it never existed. They just lied to justify a judge issuing a warrant. No arrests were ever made. But you darn well know that the main guy behind FTL had his reputation run through the mud. What’s even crazier is they intentionally wrongly associated people AND didn’t even go for the guy who’d actually criticized the FBI. No, cause they knew what or who they really needed to attack. It wasn’t the person being critical of them. It was the man behind the underlying operations and what better way to do that then conduct a raid spewing out his name in a real effort to maliciously drag a key figure in the freedom movement through the mud and mislead people. To give them a reason to write off everything ever said and force disassociation via fear of retaliation by others who don’t get that the FBI is nothing but the biggest most immoral gang in town.

  3. caused schisms and drama withing whatever … I know it’s “within,” not withing.

    Yes, cantwell is a moron but I don’t want him locked up. Mentioning the kids seeing this event was in bad taste too.

  4. Ian – I liked the first half of your article. The second half I am not sure where you are going. Cantwell is a dangerous person. There is a difference between free speech and out right threats. You should know this better then anyone Ian. How many times have you been threatened? How many times have you called the police because of those threats? What is your response to people who receive these types of threats. Don’t be a hypocrite.

    What Cantwell has turned into is totally despicable. He is part of a hate group. He marched with them at a rally where a peaceful demonstrator was run over and killed by one of these nazi degenerates for exercising her first amendment rights. Cantwell also sprayed someone in the face with pepper spray. He is despicable. Why did you kick him out of freekeene? Wasn’t he exercising his first amendment rights? Did he say things that were contrary to your own?

    Cantwell talked himself into jail and hopefully prison for a very long time. What do you think the hate group he belongs to is going to do now that they know he was trying to shake down one of their members?

    He’s in a lot of trouble and he did it to himself. Now he has to suffer the consequences of his actions.

  5. idk…i remember him expressing a real dislike for pot…maybe he changed or was in a room where people where smoking

  6. there’s a million threats online every single day…Mark has a whole webpage of them, then Cantwell makes one and now the sky is falling…the rest of the time “oh we can’t do anything about that” even when they outdo Cantwell 20 times over

  7. Good afternoon, Jumping Jacks. You’re a moron. Let’s break down why, shall we?

    “Cantwell is a dangerous person.”

    Stick it where the sun don’t shine, wanker. Are you actually trying to make the case that Cantwell is more threatening than mask-wearing mentally-ill communists who swing flashlights and bicycle locks at people, or try to set them on fire with makeshift aerosol can flamethrowers? All Cantwell did was fling a few insults at someone over social media.

  8. Let’s continue.

    “What Cantwell has turned into is totally despicable. He is part of a hate group.”

    Wonderful qualifying statement, bootlicker. You’re so strong, beautiful, and brave for standing tall against racial extremism just like most everyone else around here.

    “He marched with them at a rally where a peaceful demonstrator was run over and killed by one of these nazi degenerates for exercising her first amendment rights.”

    Love this qualifying statement also. Except for the part where you lied about those antifa demonstrators being “peaceful.”

    “Cantwell also sprayed someone in the face with pepper spray.”

    Yeah. While defending himself from a “peaceful demonstrator” who was swinging a flashlight at him. Why’d you neglect to mention that part, tool?

  9. And finally.

    “Cantwell talked himself into jail and hopefully prison for a very long time.”

    Spare us your self-righteous horseshit, jackoff. Especially when there’s real hoodlums out there like Deandre Harris who are treated with kid gloves and remain free to walk the streets.

    https://wina.com/news/064460-deandre-harris-gets-no-time-for-violating-bond/

    “What do you think the hate group he belongs to is going to do now that they know he was trying to shake down one of their members?”

    I see. So you don’t know jack squat about the FBI’s charges against Cantwell, now do you? What a surprise. Why bother to have an informed opinion about something when it’s way easier to let rags like “The Daily Beast” and “CNN” form your opinions for you, right?

  10. A word in defence of the decision: history is replete with people stockpiling weapons, before they go do mass killings…it’s like mass killer101…also, another rule of mass killer 101 is, threatening to do it…more, white supremacists are often guilty of violence..oh! drug abuse…that’s one…so lots of the boxes are checked with monsuier Cantwell… probably the judge doesnt want to have the “oops” …if she let him go and something bad happened

  11. he’s angry…(another box checked)

  12. David Crawford.

    For reasons yet to be adequately articulated, the FBI stands by the notion that threatening remarks made by certain people are “jokes,” while those made by people like Cantwell are not.

    For example, in a tweet a little over a year ago, CA State Rep Eric Swalwell threatened gun owners a with a rain of nuclear fire should they resist any future gun restrictions. Yet no one in the FBI has ever even once considered charging Swalwell for that remark. Weird, huh?

  13. The fucked up thing is that cantwell wasn’t locked up for violating bail, so whatever bs the persecutor argued was just that bs. Not to mention the unlocked gun issue could have been resolved by prohibiting him from having unsecured guns. BUT even that does not make sense unless it is illegal for people to have unsecured guns. Being security aware is also a terrible excuse to lock him up when is also clearly not illegal. Even what he is charged with is highly questionable and a stretch of an argument given it requires some seriously delusional reading into the statement that was obviously not a serious statement to begin with let alone a threat of violence.

  14. maybe he is a political prisoner..I don’t know what Ian says it for. But its probably political correct to lock up a raging racist.

  15. kk – Cantwell is a convicted felon. He cannot have any kind of gun. I would tend to think Cantwell somehow hid some of his firearms he already owned before being convicted the first time.

    Cantwell is locked up because he is a threat to anyone around him. He is unpredictable, more than likely an alcoholic, may be a drug user and refuses to adhere to his bail conditions.

    Cantwell has been kicked off of youtube, and many other web hosts, not to mention a state.

    I suggest you look up why this guy is in jail ad what it’s all about. The government didn’t waist money hunting him down. If you call it a waste, then people need to refer to all the silly traffic tickets freekeeners would fight in jury trials. Tell me that wasn’t a waste of money.

  16. He isn’t charged with firearms charges

  17. Regardless of what anybody thinks of him,
    the charges against Cantwell in Charlottesville were completely bogus, as are these current charges.

    FYI, the plea deal Cantwell took in Charlottesville, which he was pressured into taking after spending months in jail and under house arrest, for the “crime” of defending himself and other Unite TBE Right marchers gainst ANTIFA with pepper spray (since when is selfdefense a crime?), and being threatened with more time and an unfair jury trial, he took a plea deal which banned him from Virginia for 5 years, but which ALLOWED for him to keep his guns.

    Saying that you will have sex with somebody’s wife is NOT a threat. Note that he did not use the word rape. Also note that the person he said this to was part of a group which had been harassing him for months prior to this. Also, note that Cantwell waa arrested 7 months AFTER he posted this comment, and he never even attempted to have sex with this man’ wife.

    I do not agree with everything Cantwell says or does, but it should be clearly apparent that these are politically motivated attacks based on trumped up charges.

    A moral stand should be taken that it is wrong to lock people up on false charges, even if you have disagreements with somebody, and even if that person makes rude/offensive comments.

  18. Andy – Cantwell was never charged with bogus crimes. There was enough evidence to prove him guilty.

    “Saying that you will have sex with somebody’s wife is NOT a threat. Note that he did not use the word rape”.

    Apparently the words he chose were enough to cause him being charged. I know if someone was threatening to rape my wife I would be quite concerned.

    “I do not agree with everything Cantwell says or does, but it should be clearly apparent that these are politically motivated attacks based on trumped up charges”.

    What would anyone get out of charging Cantwell with “bogus” charges? Virginia has lots and lots of skinhead, and neonazis. Why would anyone pick on Cantwell just to post “trumped” up charges?

    This has nothing to do with free speech. This has to do with Cantwell not following his probation requirements, making threats, and a host of other charges that are not politically motivated. He did it to himself.

  19. “Apparently the words he chose were enough to cause him being charged. I know if someone was threatening to rape my wife I would be quite concerned.”

    So concerned that you’d be willing to wait over half a year for government officials to finally swoop in and save the day? Dang, Jumping Jacks, your wife sure is lucky to have someone like you around, isn’t she?

  20. Kay Kay, m’kay? – There is more to this story the what is written. He tried to scam money from one of his former nazi party friends. Don’t you think the club would want to get revenge for doing that?

    He made the threat of “f#cking” someone’s wife in front of their children.. That is a threat and not a 1st amendment statement. He’s going to go away for a long while. Should he get paroled, he can’t have guns. All his guns will be taken by the police. He’s not supposed to have any because he is a convicted felon.

    Cantwel has demonstrated he cannot follow the rules of his probation.

    Ian has never spoken to anyone in Cantwells circle so a lot of what he was saying may not be correct.

  21. “There is more to this story the what is written. He tried to scam money from one of his former nazi party friends.”

    Dang. You really don’t know shit about this case, do you Jumping Jacks? Cantwell wasn’t trying to scam money from anyone. He was trying to acquire information so he could dox a lying “Bowl Patrol” shitbag calling himself “VM.” Christ. You could at least try and inform yourself before posting your stupid opinion about something, can’t you tool?

    “He made the threat of “f#cking” someone’s wife in front of their children.. (sic) That is a threat and not a 1st amendment statement.”

    Give it up, tool. I’ve heard worse shit come out of my niece’s mouth while playing “PUBG.” And don’t forget that half-a-year wait before the FBI bothered to act. Bill Cosby could have raped a hundred bitches in that span of time.

    “Cantwel (sic) has demonstrated he cannot follow the rules of his probation.”

    Again with the uniformed opinions. Cantwell wasn’t arrested for a probation violation. Thanks for playing, though. You have any more idiotic things to say, tool?

    “Ian has never spoken to anyone in Cantwells (sic) circle so a lot of what he was saying may not be correct.”

    Doh! Looks like you do. Read closely, tool, I didn’t get my information from Ian. I got it from the FBI’s own indictment – which you obviously didn’t read. Tell us, tool. How can you have an opinion about something, negative or otherwise, when you don’t even know what it is you’re talking about?

  22. free joe brown. joe brown did worse and if they came for him, they will come for us. they already did for cantwell because he never spoke up for joe brown

  23. You guys got nukes up there at “the shire” to protect yourselves from obvious traitors like Judge Johnstone, cause she’s just the tip of a very ugly spear. Humanity, as a whole, is an unstable life form, and exists in a permanent state of war Mr Freeman. Hundreds of competing political, economic, religious and cultural systems all after the same set of finite resources. Here in the USA, this reality has been suppressed as a disarming tactic to facilitate the exploitation we “atomized individuals” are experiencing now. What “freemen” need are military-based “shires” not pseudo-hippy intentional communities predicated on some abstract concept of personal freedoms. They don’t exist, and the Cantwell case is an excellent example. You better arm up, build state of the art military systems and fortifications, complete with your own factories, mills and farms.

  24. Kay Kay, m’kay? – Again your childish rants and raves show your immaturity regarding this article.

    “He made the threat of “f#cking” someone’s wife in front of their children.. (sic) That is a threat and not a 1st amendment statement.”

    “Give it up, tool. I’ve heard worse shit come out of my niece’s mouth while playing”.

    That is rather disturbing to hear.

    The rest of your immature blow offs just fall on deaf ears. You have proven you are a neonazi and you have no moral compass to speak of.

  25. “Again your childish rants and raves show your immaturity regarding this article.”

    What an irresistible argument, Jumping Jacks. Will you be using that for your dissertation defense, as well?

    “That is rather disturbing to hear.”

    Is it really, though? Because it begs the question: Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between a joke or a threat, or are you just pretending you don’t like the FBI is?

    “The rest of your immature blow offs just fall on deaf ears. You have proven you are a neonazi and you have no moral compass to speak of.”

    Dang, tool. You really got me good there. How will I ever get over such a brutal slap in the face?

  26. Kay Kay, m’kay? Yawn…………………………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  27. Oy gevalt, Jumping Jacks. I’m just frothing at the gash with all your sexy talk.

  28. Jumping jacks needs to get a life.

  29. Funny how the fbi doesn’t seem to find the time to go after all those blacks on Twitter who love to threaten to rape and kill white people.

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