Packed city committee meeting on mask mandate, supermajority unmasked.
Last night, the full council heard the proposal and made changes, ultimately passing the amended version 10-3 with councilors Michael Remy, Janice Manwaring, and former cop Thomas Powers voting against. In addition to ignoring the majority of the people of Keene who opposed this mandate, the ten councilors voting for the ordinance also ignored the 70% of Keene business owners who registered their opposition in a survey conducted by the Keene Downtown Group.
Prior to the final vote, councilor Michael Remy proposed making the mandate a recommendation, which the council shot down. Councilor Kate Bosely then proposed the ordinance target individuals for penalties instead of the businesses themselves, as the 2020 mandate did. Mayor George Hansel cautioned the council against Bosely’s proposal saying he thinks targeting the individual would make the ordinance unenforceable. Hansel said targeting of businesses is relatively easy and can be done by the goons in code enforcement, whereas to target individuals would mean that the police would be the ones enforcing the ordinance. Hansel may be aware the police are less than interested in enforcing it – at least according to two officers who told me that personally in the last year or so. City mob boss Elizabeth Dragon also recommended against Bosely’s proposal as it would require snitches to call the cops on a mask-free person and the city gang has no system to track the number of warnings given to people for violations, as Bosely requested the ordinance have a verbal and written warning be issued to the person prior to issuing a $100 ticket. However, councilors voted for Bosely’s amendment, 10-3, meaning individuals will be targets for enforcement instead of businesses.
70% of Keene Business Owners Against Mask Mandate
The ridiculous Keene city gang even says the mask must be worn by people playing indoor sports.
The new mask mandate does not apply to gyms or other businesses with memberships that are technically not open to the public. It also has a carve-out for medical exemptions and people aren’t required to produce documentation to prove it. The 2021 mask mandate ordinance goes into effect on Monday, December 20th.
As I recommended at the committee hearing, people who don’t want to wear masks need to refuse to obey this ordinance. It’s likely not going to be enforced, and if it is, then people who are ticketed should demand their trial. If convicted, they should refuse to pay the fine. Make these tyrants work for their convictions and don’t ever reward their thuggery by paying them fines. The worst that they can do is jail you for a night, but the judge will nearly always let you do community service instead of go to jail – as long as you’re willing to go to jail. This isn’t legal advice, just my experience.
Here is full video of the testimony in front of the PLD committee last week as well as the full council’s discussion, amendments, and votes from last night. Don’t miss the part where George Hansel actually begs people to wear masks “in their house over Christmas”. LOL – just say NO!
Was anybody really surprised that the council did the exact opposite of what the people wanted? These guys get elected by the very people that they pay off. It’s all the government workers who vote for more big government because they’re incentivized to do so. If we banned those who received money or other benefits from voting (teachers, government workers, contractors working for government, etc) the taxes and government would shrink in size and the elected would be more likely to do what was in the interests of the people as a whole rather than those they pay through theft… Read more »
This is awful. Planning to move my family from Germany to join the FSP early next year and have the Keene area as our top destination. This is very discouraging though. I guess the important question is, will the people comply and will it be enforced? I just want to be done with this crap.
Christopher: The people have not complied thus far, or at least those among us who resist. They lack the ability to enforce this bullshit. It’s something like a $100 fine, but that means you can take it to court and every stinking one of us will and they will usually not bother because they know it unless they’re trying to push back after we’ve claimed a win on the war (ie for 3 years they didn’t give us a single court date and dozens of tickets were issued in Keene- if you requested a trial they just dropped it- and… Read more »
Thanks so much for the response! It’s reassuring to hear that people are fighting tooth and nail and getting the desired outcomes. The progress from this active minority really does sound promising! And I can only imagine the last two years have sped up the migration for others like they have for me and my family.
Can you comment on Keene in general? I often see that it leans left but it seems like there is a solid Free State presence.
This is a good thing. Masks save lives. Do you want your fellow citizens to die from this extremely deadly disease? Do you not care? Masks protect your life as well.
I’m glad Keene made the right choice. This is best for the health of the community.
Hopefully Keene will also mandate vaccines for all businesses. No unvaccinated person should be able to participate in society.
Get vaccinated and wear your mask. We can save many lives this way. Don’t be selfish.
That’s nice, MSL. Say, if this disease is so extremely deadly and stuff, then why do we need to be tested to see if we have it? Oh, and if masks work, then why the six feet social distance? Oh, and if both those things work, then why the lock-downs? Oh, and if all three of those things work, then why the rushed experimental vaccines? Oh, and if the vaccines work, then why the no liability clause? Anyway, didja hear the latest news? Turns out the CDC was busted twice recently for rewriting their guidelines with the help of the… Read more »
Just emailed the clerk. Apparently no one reads the real science on the inefficacy of masks: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/do-masks-actually-work-the-best-studies-suggest-they-don-t/ar-AANfurl
And here:
https://brownstone.org/articles/why-mask-mandates-should-be-immediately-banned/
Never going to put a mask on for these fools. I think it’s important to comment so that others know that there are more out there that think like they do. Resist the stupidity.
In this case, I agree with Free Keene. It was also bad strategy to invite public input and then ignore it.
Yeah. Totally, LFoD. just like when the FDA added a warning label to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines about myocarditis and stuff, am I right?
Anyway, you better not be trying to switch sides or something. Cuz we’re an exclusive club, tool. No libtard weirdos allowed, got it?
No danger of that. I am a conservative and a rule follower. KK’s insane utopia doesn’t work for me. No schools or police or driver’s licenses ? What about people who can’t afford private security ? What about somebody who hurts, rapes, or murders a child ? The guy in Wisconsin who drove his car into a crowd killing 6 and injuring dozens. Cool with that ?
So dumb and poorly thought out.
So you’re a conservative and a rule follower, huh LFoD? Dang. That sounds fantastic. Almost makes everything you say just that more compelling. No really. I mean that. Anyway, while you were busy watching Buzzfeed videos to learn everything there is to know about libertarians and how they look at things and stuff, I decided to click on both of Nathan’s links and guess what I found out? Turns out that everything you libtard weirdos have been telling us about masks is total bullshit. Weird, huh? Oh, and guess what else? Looks like this holiday season Omicron is coming to… Read more »
Are you a student overwhelmed by your online course? Believe us, you are not alone. In this era, students are constantly struggling to study, whether online or on campus.take my class is growing exponentially as the coronavirus pandemic continues. However, students face many problems and no one can rely on them. No more.
A mask is like a talisman or rabbit’s foot. The religious fervor of the mask cult is strong.
For some reason though covid hates soccer players. I kind of get it, I mean soccer is so boring.
I continue to be astonished at the utter selfishness of Free Keeners/Free Staters. But this reality is not being lost on the average NH resident, whether all you liberty people realize this or not.
You knew this was going to pass because it was being promoted by buzzkill Randy the Nanny who feels the need to create quality of life ordinances that no one wants. As for Dr. Cruisearound (sp?), he writes the Keene council only, not Swanzey, Marlborough or other neighboring towns. So, it is good to know COVID has been contained within Keene city limits. The Dr. is totally political and not a science driven, and that scares me about CMC services.
Victoria Parmele: I live in Germany. There has been a non-stop medical mask mandate for well over a year. Compliance is well over 90% where I live and we are experience the highest number of cases EVER. If masks worked, we wouldn’t still be having this discussion because COVID would be over and done with. You have learned to view freedom and personal responsibility as selfish. We see your position as selfish; forcing others to partake in a ritual which they don’t believe in in order to make you feel safe. Emphasis on that whole FORCE thing. No one cares… Read more »
Here we go again. There are two variants of Covid infecting people. Just the other day, it was reported the USA has a covid death toll of over a million people. Keene isn’t the only one stepping up mask mandates. There are a number of cities the same size and larger than Keene that require masks. Covid is making another strong appearance and this is a public health issue. None of this is to make you feel safe. It’s to help cut down on the potential of infecting others should you be a carrier. Get used to it. This is… Read more »
Christopher – Am tired of reading the FSP scripts on liberty – You hit all the expected points 🙂
There’s some medical communists here that apparently think they own our bodies and that they can force vaccinate us against their fake virus. Good luck with that idea comrades as forced death jabs will lead to a civil war as it’s a line in the sand for many people including myself, and please remember that in any war, there’s always casualties on BOTH sides. But forced vaccinations (and thereby population reduction) for all is definitely a major goal of the evil ones behind this whole worldwide Scamdemic!!!
Victoria, why are triple vaxxed people still getting “covid” though ? Why are athletes and many other people having heart problems ?
Why are many politicians caught out partying without wearing a fear mask and then acting all mask pious when the cameras are rolling?
Say Victoria, don’tcha think it’s pretty selfish of you to want to force people to take vaccines that have a risk of crippling them with acute myocarditis just so you can feel the warm and fuzzies of not getting infected with a disease that 99.8% get over with without a hitch? I sure think it is. Bob does too. I hope you have an apology ready for us and stuff. I’ll take bitcoin too if you have it. After all, Christmas is just around the corner. Guess what else, Vicky? Can I call ya Vicky? Turns out Germany isn’t an… Read more »
I hate to say it, but this is evidence that Free Keene has not had that great an influence on Keene.
Is jury nullification a viable option here?
I love to say it though. Free Keene dipshits can’t even stop mask mandates, let alone have New Hampshire declare independence from the U.S. lol
Yes, and Talk Show host Phil Valentine spewed similar anti-vax nonsense. He also put his chances of dying from Covid at “probably way less than 1%”.
After being hauled into a critical care unit in July, Phil said that he “regretted not being a more vocal advocate of the vaccination”.
Sadly, Phil received his Darwin Award on August 26.
Like, Phil, almost all Covid patients at Cheshire Medical are unvaccinated and most express the same regrets.
Your deadly germs via a disease epidemic.. Are a aggression to me
ipso facto
a violation of the NAP..
Thus the mask mandate is a must
There is no contagious virus. To understand what’s making some people sick, watch this video. And the main thing killing people in hospitals are the deadly hospital treatments, mainly the deadly drugs they use like remdesivir. And when the hospitals kill you, they blame the virus of course.
https://rumble.com/vlonug-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines.html?fbclid=IwAR1EANivwfwwj9y-dKFtpXVuSgJUYguTBQfK7exMUHOmSAN-ixoi1ONd4p0
I have a solution to the anti-maskers: wear a mask and there will be no need for mandates.
The anti-maskers are the cause of the mandate.
People that refuse to wear a mask are what make the *mandate a necessity.
Had they worn a mask *voluntarily*,
there would have been no need for a requirement.
John.. Shush, the adults are talking
To the issue of selfishness.
Is it selfish to not want your grandmother to die?
I don’t want my grandmother to die; am I being selfish?
My view is that the anti-masters are sort of being selfish, but they’re being stupid selfish, because they’re going against self-preservation.
Vaccines only work for the people making tons of money from them. Manufacturers must love the legal immunity too. Forcing people to get vaccinated is a violation of the N.A.P. Oh look! Another soccer player just keeled over! Masks don’t work, unless you are fearful, ignorant and in need of a binkie. Then they might work. Fearful people demanding government (the poster child for N.A.P. aggressions) force others to wear masks, is a violation of the N.A.P. It could be argued that vaccinated and masked people who still get covid and then pass it onto others are violating the N.A.P.… Read more »
To: Flatulenting the curve.
You aren’t a person to be taken seriously.
^That is stating the obvious
🙂
David,
You know a mask won’t save you if you have an adverse reaction to the gene altering jab and / or the bazillion lifetime boosters. right ?
You know right on the box of some masks they admit the mask doesn’t protect from covid, right ?
Did you see my previous comment? 🙂
That’s cool, Karl. That’s cool. Anyway, I don’t know if you’ve thought about this much, but there’s one thing the Free Keeners could do to put a wrench in the works – refuse to comply. You know, just like the fine folks of NY are doing right this minute? Even the cops there are refusing to enforce Gov. Hochul’s mandates. Pretty cool of ’em, huh? Oh, and LFoD? Didja know that in South Africa, 1.7% of COVID cases in the current Omicron wave are being hospitalized compared to 19% in the previous wave? Oh, and they’re also saying that the… Read more »
These are facts that make me wear a mask:
1: A mask *will catch some of the spit from flying out of my mouth! : FACT!
2: A vaccine, it is well known and universally accepted, will diminish the severity of the disease. FACT
And
3: I like wearing a mask and am glad it isn’t frowned upon like it use to be…
None of these is a submission to “the man” you fricking wackadoodles
“Can you comment on Keene in general? I often see that it leans left but it seems like there is a solid Free State presence.” Christopher: Sure can. Keene does lean left, but cities and towns in New Hampshire have limited powers. They can’t just pass any ordinance they want. It’s often the case that they will pass something that isn’t actually legal and the moment it sees a court room goes bye-bye assuming it even gets that far. Ordinances aren’t law. Laws in New Hampshire have to authorize the ordinance first. So for instance years ago New Hampshire passed… Read more »
Why do you write so long
David, You should be free to wear a mask if you like on your own face. Hang it on your car mirror and let it marinate in the unholy air teeming with killer germs!!! Oh no!! . Extra points if you wear it in your car and look very very seriously at the people laughing at your good sense. You know better than them!! Those fools!! Breathing air, what dolts!!! Free to obsessively wash your hands, stare fearfully at the unbelievers plotting to kill Grandma if you like too. Free to gasp and obsess over the people standing 5 1/2… Read more »
Here’s my written testimony that I sent in to the Mayor and the full council before they voted for mask tyranny. They can’t say they didn’t know as I’m sure many of us besides myself tried to educate them with some truth. As the saying goes though, there is no cure for stupid!!! Dear Honorable Mayor and City Councilors, Having heard all the public testimonies from last Wednesday, I completely agree with all those that presented religious, medical, and constitutional reasons why masking (like vaccinations and other medical interventions) should never be made mandatory, whether the illegal mandates come from… Read more »
To whoever that was that said my name, after my last comment:
I generally don’t read peoples comments if they are too cowardly to put a real name to what they say.
Because of that: I saw that you said my name at the start of your comment, but didn’t bother reading all the stuff after that.
Please refer to my previous comments; as I’m certain! that whatever you said is addressed there
Hey John,
Brevity is the soul of wit. Nobody is reading that long winded crazy shit, lol
Don’t be so sure that nobody is reading it Ghost of Karl Marx. I post it for those who might want to read some truth, not for those like yourself, who foolishly reject truth outright as they have no love for truth.
That;s right David, keep your head firmly planted up your ass, your mask will save you!
Use government to make others put their head up their ass too!! Good slave!
Does it a vaccine greatly diminish the life threatening symptoms of COVID-19 ?
YES!
Does a mask block spit from from flying out of your mouth?
YES!
So yes, those are good things to do to make the disease go away.
Masks are unhealthy and can’t protect anybody from a fake virus.
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/2021/12/masks-arent-just-ineffective-theyre-dangerous/
you guys aren’t posing arguments
I have heard all the ersatz “arguments” that you all cling to.
And what it boils down to is : “i want to do what I want to do and you cant stop me”.
You cling to so called arguments that are subservient to a childish mentality : “I dont wanna and you cant make me”
So the rabbit hole links come and the ad hominems (last two posts)
Hey Karl, guess what else? Turns out that Omicron, which is significantly less dangerous than earlier variants, is now being used as a cover for vaccine failure and as an excuse to roll out even more mail-in voting initiatives in swing states. Boy, it’s really looking like you libtard weirdos are gonna have to use every trick in the book to get keep power through 2024, now aren’tcha? Good luck with that, by the way.