“Who’s a ‘real’ Democrat?” by Will May

Local Democrat Will May responds in the Keene Sentinel to the people trying to “out” Andrew Carroll as an “invader”:

There have a number of letters in the last month about libertarian Democrats, and how voters should “beware” of these candidates.

I am both amused and frustrated by these arguments.

The authors don’t seem to understand what the word “libertarian” actually means. Libertarians, for their information, want minimal government involvement in society. This means they generally oppose government intervention in the economy. They also oppose intervention in citizens’ private lives, as well as foreign wars of aggression.

If you’ll notice, this means that, though there may be times when they agree with conservatives, there are a considerable number of issues where libertarians naturally align with the left, including marijuana, gay rights, immigration, foreign policy, civil liberties, corporate welfare, and others. In fact, there are prominent libertarians, notably Will Wilkinson, arguing that libertarians should form a permanent alliance with liberals. This alliance has been branded “liberaltarianism,” and that’s exactly what some of us in Cheshire County have set out to do.

You would expect Democrats to be enthused by this influx of support. And, indeed, most have responded this way. Unfortunately, there are some who, due to narrow-minded ignorance and rampant fear-mongering, have decided that it’s their duty to oppose libertarianism in the Democratic Party. Apparently libertarians aren’t “real” Democrats.

Is that so? Well, let’s take a look at a few of these “real” Democrats. “Real” Democrat John Lynch vetoed medical marijuana and has pledged to oppose an income tax. (“Stealth” Democrat Andrew Carroll, on the other hand, supports medical marijuana and has refused to take the income tax pledge.) “Real” Democrat Bill Butynski opposes gay marriage and medical marijuana, and has been endorsed by Rep. Tim Butterworth. (“Stealth” Democrat Thom Simmons, however, supports gay marriage and medical marijuana, and has been endorsed by the Pink Pistols, a gay rights organization.)

If there is any systematic reasoning at all behind this categorization, I cannot see it.

I have therefore decided that I am not supporting real Democrats this year. Instead, I will support thoughtful and intelligent candidates who will vote with their consciences — candidates like Chuck Weed, Stephen Lindsey, Kris Roberts, Tim Robertson, Andrew Carroll and Thom Simmons.

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  1. I have a letter they said they were going to publish

    Um,I can tell you its very positive toward Andrew!

    It should be out imminently.

    I just hope i did him justice.

  2. I agree. I feel I have more in common with "liberals" than I do "conservatives".

    The main difference between liberal sand libertarians is that liberals are under the mistaken belief that a massive violent gang can help people. If only they could see the violence in the system. Without a government harming everyone there would be prosperity and equal rights and less environmental harm.

  3. yea………that's why i didn't like it when FTL spoke with contempt about liberal leftys

    Plus Ian and mark said "mass_____" blank rhymes with coals

    I don't think its very smart to alienate a whole state that is your neighbors.

    I would ask Mark and Ian to stop speaking of with contempt about "lefty liberals who LOVE big government"

    because that's crap and mass people ARE NOT!!!!!! "MASSHOLES" (i didnt even want to repeat it because i think its such bull crap but of course you guys grabbed onto it)

    MISTER "I JUST GOT HERE FROM FLA AND WANT TO DISRESPECT THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR" MANY OF WHOM feel somewhat of a affinity with libertarian stuff.

    But i guess if you don't want to grow your movement that will be the way to go.


  4. OK… completely agree with the post… I just have to ask one thing: Is his name SERIOUSLY Bill Butynski (Butt-in-ski)??

    Talk about someone destined for a political career!

  5. Oh, and he *IS* a Butt-in-sky alright. He sponsored legislation in the last session to OUTLAW THE SALE OF ENERGY DRINKS (like Red Bull!?) to minors, and to criminalize the possession of veterinary meds by non-vets for their pets. He is the epitome of the Nanny State….

  6. Wow. That's just sad.

  7. It's funny to me, as one who has all but stopped using the term "libertarian" due to all of the statists who refer to themselves as "libertarian", that Democrats would do the opposite, and alienate anyone who wasn't a statist freak.

    It may seem hypocritical, but I was told growing up that people in the United States valued freedom.

    I recommend checking out the World's Smallest Political Quiz http://theadvocates.org/quiz . Without regard for the results, and what you think of them, the political plane (Nolan Chart) rather than the false "right" vs "left" paradigm, can help cut through a lot of the confusion, and BS, most people are muddled in.

  8. I'm sure that's not really Ian quoting Captain and Tenile. (Teneel? Taneil? Whatever.)

  9. Tennille.

  10. Its a bozo named "rensorg"

    he also takes sames name

  11. its a bozo named "rensorg"

    he also takes Sams' name

  12. Hmm. Someone pro-freedom makes a grammatical error and it suddenly becomes such a big deal? Like the entire argument for liberty (as opposed to tyranny) hangs in the balance?

  13. Yeah, whoever's calling themselves "Ian Freeman" above is being quite a jerk.

    I think a rule on here against impersonating others would be reasonable. At least post nonsense under your own handle.

  14. That kid's got to be the ugliest fucking ginger in history.

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