Repealing Prohibition on Prostitution: Full Hearing Video and Press Conference

Elizabeth Edwards is a Free State Project early mover and elected democrat state representative who has heroically put forth the only proposed repeal of the prohibition on prostitution that I’ve heard of in my near-decade here in New Hampshire.

Were HB 1614 to pass, adults in NH would be able to trade sex for money without fear of arrest, prosecution, and jail. It does NOT create a regulatory structure (legalization) it just strikes the statutes criminalizing prostitution, and keeps in place prohibition on sex slavery.

It’s an excellent bill and surprisingly, everyone who testified on it, testified in favor. However, the cowardly chiefs of police did submit written testimony against it. Here’s full video of the press conference and the hearing in front of the Criminal Justice committee:

Will the bill have a chance the first year out? Probably not, but kudos to representative Edwards for putting it up for consideration. This is a conversation that people need to have at the state house about economic freedom and self-ownership. Stay tuned here to Free Keene for the latest.

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41 Comments

  1. A prostitute’s mode of interaction with a customer is far more moral than a “public servant”. A prostitute derives income from an interaction with his / her customers on a mutual basis. If you’re not interested in the services of a prostitute, they aren’t going to steal your house or put you in jail for not paying them. You simply don’t have an interaction with them.

    A public servant on the other hand derives income from a series of events that all have a government threat or a government gun behind it. It doesn’t matter if you want to use the so called “services” of a public servant, you must pay them or they WILL see to it that you are harmed until they get your money.

    If “normal people” acquired their customers thru threats of force, at the very least people would shun them, but the minute you become a “public servant” your immoral deeds become magically okay in the minds of the indoctrinated.

    The disconnect is real and so is the gun of the “public servant”.

  2. i’M 1000% ONBOARD WITH THIS BILL …I WAS AT THE HEARING AND signed that paper in support of it….. But what about that lady who said “outlaw poverty” imo that convolutes or muddies the message

  3. ok,a suggestion: when a rep asks a question put text of his/her name under him/her

  4. Prostitution will never be made legal in NH. Is this the only way freekeeners can get women? Do you think these prostitutes would accept bitcoin? Prostitution attracts crime and human trafficking.

  5. Seek professional help Bob – seriously. You’re pretty fucked-up in the head.

  6. David in keene, is David Crawford, a creepy person who got kicked out of free keene for creeping on girls. Hence the nickname, Creepy Crawford.

  7. Legalize and tax prostitution all over Northern America as soon as possible to cope with the crisis.

  8. CRAWFORD!

  9. “It’s an excellent bill and surprisingly, everyone who testified on it, testified in favor. However, the cowardly chiefs of police did submit written testimony against it.”

    LoL. Get a fucking clue, Bernard. The citizens of NH are not for this and never will be. Contrary to what you might think, most people don’t really care what you or any other person associated with you thinks about it.

    One more thing: those “cowardly” police chiefs are the only thing standing between you and people that may want to harm you – remember that. They strive to keep everyone safe, even despicable assholes like yourself.

  10. Bernard’s narcissism knows no bounds. Does he really think that any one of this elected officials actually care what he thinks about this bill or any other bill? He likes to pretend that he’s some sort of “player” in the NH state government scene, but actually he’s just another shit turd freetard with nothing better to do.

    It’s laughable.

  11. @Spike, okay I’ll seek YOUR help. Could you please take my comments point by point and explain where I’ve got it incorrect?

  12. David Crawford are you there?

  13. @Spike: “The citizens of NH are not for this and never will be.”

    You do realize that NH is one of the pornography capitals of America? Per capita, I think we actually have more porn production than California.

    So, the citizens of NH are already very accepting of people getting paid to have sex.

    Put a camera on a tripod and pay someone to have sex with you, then sell the video, and it’s perfectly legal. Omit the camera, and it’s a crime?

  14. I have no problem with this idea. It currently only hurts a small portion of the population who uses them, and not only that it would reduce the black market of sex slaves if made legal.

  15. to those of you who say that NH is “against” this, then why were the citizens of NH there to testify against it, why only police testifying against it?
    personally i think this is great, I think this is the best way to end trafficking.

  16. Heidi,

    Obviously you flunked math – specifically statistics. Do you really think a tiny group of people including a couple of freetards like Bernard really reflect what the majority of NH citizens want in regards to this bill?

    Seriously?

    The bill is DOA and will be tossed in committee.

  17. Flint: “You do realize that NH is one of the pornography capitals of America? Per capita, I think we actually have more porn production than California.”

    LoL. There you go again making up shit again – unless you can provide legitimate cites for your claim, which i strongly doubt.

    Moron.

  18. @MikeAB: I’d be happy to… as soon as you provide cites for all the claims made by the folks on “your” side. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    But I’ll toss you a bit: the reason California has so much porn production is a CA Supreme Court case, CA v. Freeman. It held that paying someone to have sex on film did not violate the prostitution statutes, because free speech was paramount. In 48 states, no such ruling exists, and paying someone to have sex is still considered to be prostitution. California and one other state have Supreme Court rulings stating that paying someone to have sex is not prostitution, as long as it is being filmed. I’ll give you one guess as to which other state has an equivalent ruling.

  19. heidi – The people who spoke for prostitution are scum. If you have a daughter would you allow her to prostitute? It will never pass.

  20. Flint – Another Wikipedia info fest? Prostitution is illegal in all 50 states. Nevada only allows it in a couple of counties. You need to put your pecker on hold unless you go to Nevada, Even your pathetic attempt to say filming pornography is not illegal, is a lie. Cities who have allowed this to go one are passing condom laws and other laws when it comes to filming pornography.

    By the way, here is your fearless leader Ian Bernard with his approval for children having sex with adults.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSixDLrGlw

  21. @Jumping Jacks: You’ve been caught using Wikipedia to pretend that you know things on multiple occasions. That doesn’t mean anyone else does the same thing.

    And then you attempt to claim that it’s illegal to film pornography? How, precisely, does pornography get produced, then?

    Some of us actually have functioning brains, and learn about subjects before speaking on them. We actually know the laws, read the court cases, and do research. Of course, that’s because NH actually matters to us, since we actually live here; you’re just an Internet troll who knows nothing about NH, as has been repeatedly demonstrated when you make claims about car insurance being mandatory, or our oldest and most famous radio station being “fake,” et cetera. Or that producing pornography is legal, here (it was in all the major papers in the state when that ruling was handed down). Anything a NH resident would be expected to know about NH… you don’t.

  22. Where did you go Crawford (David in Keene )?

  23. He’s busy taking new photos of him posing in his underwear to post on Facebook.

  24. Flint – Here we go with the excuses again. Why don’t you take some ownership in what you say? Do you honestly believe all porn is legal? If you do there truly is no hope for you.

    You said, “Some of us actually have functioning brains, and learn about subjects before speaking on them”. No, most of you don’t. and continue to make fools out of yourselves.

    Every time you lose an argument, you go for false facts and name calling. Just think about it, your mother could be out their as a prostitute being screwed by other freekeeners and scum. But that shouldn’t bother you because you want prostitution legal. You are truly tetched.

  25. “I’d be happy to… as soon as you provide cites for all the claims made by the folks on “your” side. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander”

    That is the answer of someone who just literally makes up shit and cannot back it up.

    NH is not the porn capital of the country, FlintDouche. Epic fail.

  26. ” it would reduce the black market of sex slaves if made legal.”

    LMAO … Making prostitution legal in NH would reduce the black market of sex slaves? Really?

    Do you even know what sex trafficking is? It is kidnapping young women (or men) and sending them off to Eastern Europe or the Middle East to be sex slaves. It is irrelevant if prostitution is legal or not in NH or any other state.

    That has got to be one of the more idiotic comments I have seen out here in awhile.

  27. No one is going to testify against it, because that is the default condition for something like this – not desired.

    To all those who are worried that prostitution will be made legal in NH … you’re worrying about nothing. It’s never going to happen.

    The chick who proposed this ridiculous bill is going to be a one-term wonder, I can tell you that.

  28. @Jumping Jacks: You’re not even making sense. No one said “all porn is legal,” or anything close to that. For example, pornography involving minors is illegal.

    What was said is that pornography is not considered prostitution, here. in 48 other states, it is. NH and CA are the only states where producing pornography is not legally-equivalent to prostitution. Hence, a lot of pornography is produced in those two states.

    “Every time you lose an argument, you go for false facts and name calling.”

    You’re describing yourself, as usual.

    “Just think about it, your mother could be out their as a prostitute being screwed by other freekeeners and scum.”

    Not really, no. She’s a wee bit old for that, and I’m rather certain she would not choose “scum” for clients if she wanted to engage in such a business. (interestingly, your assumption that “mother” equals “of an age to engage in prostitution” tends to imply that you are extremely young)

    As far as the implied question of whether I would be offended by a family member engaging in prostitution, I would not. It’s a skilled trade, no different from being a plumber, carpenter, mechanic, doctor, or any other. Skilled trade is skilled trade. You exchange use of your physical and mental skills for money.

  29. @Eddie: “That is the answer of someone who just literally makes up shit and cannot back it up.”

    No, it’s the answer of someone who is sick of others doing that.

    “NH is not the porn capital of the country, FlintDouche. Epic fail.”

    I said “per capita.” Reading comprehension failure on your part, eh? I’d repeat your “epic fail” comment, but that’s not “epic” – it’s just pathetic.

  30. Flinty, yah fruity libertard, when will you learn.

  31. And when will you learn to use proper punctuation when you ask a question, Bsizzle? Yet again you’ve shown up empty-headed in a contest of wits.

  32. Ok Flint, so back it up – where did you get your “per capita” numbers?

    You can’t, can you? Eddie’s correct – you’re just making shit up .. again.

    What a fucking tool.

  33. Flint – Again with the lies and excuses. You have no argument. You said “But I’ll toss you a bit: the reason California has so much porn production is a CA Supreme Court case, CA v. Freeman. It held that paying someone to have sex on film did not violate the prostitution statutes, because free speech was paramount. In 48 states, no such ruling exists, and paying someone to have sex is still considered to be prostitution. California and one other state have Supreme Court rulings stating that paying someone to have sex is not prostitution”

    It sounds to me like you are saying porn is legal in every state.

    You said your mother wouldn’t prostitute herself. Got news for you, prostitution doesn’t seem to have an age limit.

    You said “As far as the implied question of whether I would be offended by a family member engaging in prostitution, I would not. It’s a skilled trade, no different from being a plumber, carpenter, mechanic, doctor, or any other. Skilled trade is skilled trade. You exchange use of your physical and mental skills for money”.

    You are a liar and then some. You are very pathetic to compare a crime ridden, drug selling, human trafficking, disease spreading, prostitution the same as a carpenter or doctor. Which way does your moral compass point. Right now it’s pointed to your zipper. You are very pathetic and stupid. You need a serious tune up. Go see a psychologist. The great thing is no prostitution will ever be allowed in NH.

  34. @MikeAB: We already covered that. Start backing up your own claims, and you’ll be in a position to make demands. Until then, the massive backlog of unsupported claims puts you in no position to demand anything from anyone. Just because you constantly make things up does not mean that anyone else is doing the same.

    @Jumping Jacks: Repeating your lies doesn’t make them true. And calling others liars at the same time that you’re lying just makes you look stupider than usual.

    It’s already been solidly demonstrated that you should be institutionalized as a threat to yourself and others. Your paranoid delusions, alone, would be sufficient cause for involuntary commitment.

  35. All draccc has for a come back is my punctuation! Hey, draccc, how is. This,? Is ” this -any: better!?!? Fucking pathetic!
    Sincerely, Mr Grammar. ….”^,!

  36. “We already covered that. Start backing up your own claims, and you’ll be in a position to make demands.”

    So in other words, Flint: you just made up your claims and have nothing to support them. You’re no better than the people you accuse of doing the same thing.

    “According to PornHub, in 2013 the states that spent the longest average time on their site were Mississippi (11:47), Hawaii (11:36), and Arkansas (11:32). In contrast, people in Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire had the shortest porn-watching sessions (at 10:00, 10:01, and 10:02, respectively). ” http://facts.randomhistory.com/pornography-facts.html

    So your claims are not true. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. You really need to step up your game, Flint.

  37. Excellent, Bsizzle. I can always count upon a temper tantrum to come from you with just the mildest of prodding.

  38. @AlanJ

    Flint was referring to the production of pornographic material, Alan, not the popularity of it. Even if you had missed that specific word, the point that Flint made regarding state authorities applying prostitution statutes to the production of pornography should have made this clear to you. It looks like Flint’s game is just fine, Alan. Maybe you should consider stepping up your own game by reading your opponent’s arguments more carefully first before attempting to construct such clumsy straw man arguments to refute them.

  39. What draccc is trying. ,to say/ is he likes=_^ g#etting. * prodded, where?
    Maybe he#” tell us… He will / probably come ^ back with,, a homophobic joke $_ or comment. Path^€etic #!!!

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