Several libertarian activists gathered in Manchester recently for a “gun buyback” event where they attempted to persuade Manchester police to trade their guns for $25 gift cards. Organizers and attendees said they wanted to bring attention to police violence and “qualified immunity” which protects officers from responsibility for their actions. Kudos to Justin O’Donnell for being there and getting video:
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Good work guys.
LOL … yeah – good work. Ulbricht is going to prison for at least 10 years, regardless of what you freetard douchebags do or say.
Yep 1st day in Ross admits he set up the website and claims it was just an “experiment” and then claims he was framed by the anonymous person that he turned the website over to, which is how they caught him logged into the administrator’s page when he was busted.
Again … don’t confuse the freetard douchebags with the facts. The facts get in the way of their idiotic beliefs.
I own myself, regardless of what you say, scum.
I’ll bet you own yourself repeatedly in your Mom’s basement each day before the short bus comes to pick you up and drive you to that special school you attend.
Come to my place if you’re convinced that I live with my parents.
Can you delegate to others a right that you don’t have, shit stain?
You know what, short-bus-boy: you still haven’t told us what that means. Do you even know?
You’re the retard who doesn’t know that it means that if you don’t have the right to steal and murder, then you’re not able to delegate to others the right to steal and kill on your behalf. You really are incredibly fucking stupid.
I think you need to find another country to live in, because in this one (where I’m considered part of the majority of voters as compared to freetards like yourself) we are content with the way things work and don’t care what you think. It’s you who is incredibly fucking stupid, short-bus-boy. run along, now.
Yes we all know you love sucking government dick and swallowing every drop…that is painfully obvious. Do you get your kids in on it to? You know snowball your children with that salty seamen of the state?
It’s a rather sad statement that a pedophile like yourself would project in that way.
If it turns out that the majority of Germans wanted Jews to be killed for being Jews, would you say that the Holocaust was just, asswipe?
Oh, right … the epic struggles of the freetards are on par with slavery and the Holocaust. I keep forgetting that.
You’re the one who worships the law, regardless of how blatantly immoral it is, as if it’s something sacred, shit wipe.
just?????? You really are a moron. Why do you think the STATES went to war against Germany? because the people were bored?
You slavetards are the ones who proclaim that the law is sacred and must be followed regardless of how immoral it is.
Except it was what you call the statists & the slavetards that fought the Nazis and freed the Jews from the concentration camps proving my point that you are a moron. 🙂
And it was the Nazis who defended Finland and Romania from Soviet aggression, you fucking idiot, so incidental good can be found in just about any government. Have you heard the saying “A broken clock is right twice a day.” you feeble minded sack of shit?
So? your incidental good is an example of your broken clock. You destroyed your own argument.
That doesn’t change the fact that the as you call it “statists & slavetards” are the ones that put an end to the evil Nazi regime.
Once again, asshole, the Nazis did some good too, but that doesn’t nullify all the bad that they did. By the same token, USA-ians were horrible shitheads who did a bit of incidental good.
So you agree, the Nazis are the perfect example of your broken clock analogy, & it was a good thing that the “statists and slavetards” did the world a favor by defeating them. Thanks for admitting your mistake. 🙂
Thank you for admitting that the USA is morally similar to the Third Reich.
troll harder boy
Wish for the perpetual enslavement of mankind harder, asswipe, as the house of cards is coming down for good.
You’re not trying hard enough.
Apparently you’re not, since you’re the one on the losing side.
Lame, you’re an anarchist, you don’t have a side,
You need to put your high school text book down its embarrassing. No one was freed during WW2 the thug states survived and maintained their dominance over the idiotic tax cattle of the world. Both sides murdered civilians without care…man thank god they had governments to protect them. The Russians released more Jews from Nazi camps more than any UPSA slaves did. Ask England how they felt about the UPSA shielding Wernher von Bruan from his war crimes trial.
The only thing I need to do is ignore you, enjoy your life down the rabbit hole.
Then stop responding bitch
troll harder
What say you to the hundreds of thousands of people blown to bits by our carpet bombing, you think every single one of them was worth the end result regardless of whether or not they thought the Nazi’s were right?
I say the people to blame for the thousands of people that were blown to bits are the Nazi aggressors who are to blame for starting the war and putting their own people’s lives at risk.
A group of gangs got into a fight with another group of gangs. Why does this happen? POWER. The United Police States of Americas involvement in WW2 had nothing to do with morality or saving Jews give me a break.
Of course he would, isn’t it obvious? He’d probably also agree that since a majority of people prefer filet Mignon to a pile of shit that we should force everyone to eat filet, or that most people aren’t allergic to peanuts that we should scrap all the allergy warnings, or that since most people prefer hamburgers over granola we should just toss all the granola eaters out of a plane @ 3k feet with no parachute, the strong will survive right? Asaninery I say!
Do you know anything about parallel reconstruction? Ask your dog he probably has a better idea than you.
No, no … my dog is more educated than you. I’m a little bit smarter than my dog; however, we both agree that you are a low-life pedophile douchebag.
So please tell what parallel reconstruction is Sammy… show us those smarts.
Parallel reconstruction is a conspiracy theory tards like you use when you want to discredit incriminating evidence.
Here is something for you to suck on enjoy cattle.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/8/napolitano-parallel-reconstruction-an-edifice-of-l/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/07/uk-dea-irs-idUKBRE9761B620130807
Now go back to sleep.
Thanks for confirming what I said tard.
Anytime evidence is presented you tards will claim it came from some secret investigation.
How can a website that deals in fake IDs be called honest?
Don’t tell me liberty activists are defending fraud now.
The Silk Road is honest in the sense that vendors advertise what they are selling and the customer receives what he expects. There’s no fraud alleged on behalf of the site itself.
Derrick you’ve done a good job of not answering my question. The owners/administrators of the website knowingly dealt in selling fake IDs which is fraud. Fraud is not something that liberty activists can defend which is why I assume you avoided answering my question.
like derrick pointed out before, you’re wrong. the silk road was a website used by 3rd parties to make private sales. people sell illegal things on facebook. should facebook be liable?
My question had nothing to do with 3rd parties Steve. The owners/administrators are the ones that were caught dealing in fake IDs. Try again.
What gives the government the right to enforce a monopoly on the sale of IDs?
Moronic question since they don’t have a monopoly on the sale of IDs. Try again.
The state does have a monopoly on issuing IDs, dumbfuck.
When are you going to man up and explain how merely possessing a fake ID harms anyone.
List our what they are charging him with you might be amazed of what is not on the list.
No … people try to sell illegal things on Facebook, and Facebook shuts them down as they find them. A huge difference.
Actually, a fake ID is no more fraudulent, in and of itself, than a Halloween mask.
It could be used for fraudulent purposes, of course, but could also be used for neutral or beneficial purposes.
I don’t know what universe you live in. Forged government documents are most definitely fraudulent.
If you’re saying engaging in fraud can be used for beneficial purposes you just gave police officers all the justification they need for sting operations and operations that liberty activist would consider as entrapment.
So, actors are all engaging in fraud, in your world? I saw an actor claim to be the President!
Anarchists keep telling us how their mythical society will work with ratings agencies serving as a clearing house to establish people’s reputation so other people know whether or not people can be trusted to honor their contracts and to hold them accountable.
What you’re telling me is that all any criminal in your mythical society has to do if he isn’t happy with the reputation he receives from the rating agency is go out and get a new fake ID because it’s no different than getting a Halloween mask.
The free market has provided, and will continue to provide, ways to unambiguously identify individuals, dumbass.
Hey dumbass the next time you get pulled over for speeding try using your company ID card and see how that works out for you.
So now you’re admitting that the state has a monopoly in the area of IDs, in that for some situations, you’re forced to used a government ID.
Producing and/or possession of forged government documents is a crime, buddy. I know that might be a bit over your head, but go look it up and see for yourself. As an added bonus try not to move your lips when you’re reading all of it, unless of course you need to sound out the big words.
Why don’t you cite the appropriate statute, then?
http://www.udetc.org/documents/FalseIdentification.pdf
Now read and STFU, loser.
Your proof is a document which disproves your claim? There’s a whole section in there going on about how it’s usually impossible to prosecute producers of fake ID’s because it’s not illegal to do so. They then go on to describe how states have tried to make the ID’s harder to fake, since they can’t outlaw it.
Your brilliance knows only one bound. Unfortunately, it’s an upper bound, and it’s quite low.
How is dealing in fake ID’s “fraudulent”? If the buyer and seller both know what is being traded, then there was zero fraud.
fake
1. prepare or make (something specious, deceptive, or fraudulent):
to fake a report showing nonexistent profits.
Right, fake ID’s can be used to defraud, but buying and selling them is not fraud. No fraud takes place between the buyer and seller of the fake ID. I can have a photo ID of myself with Elvis Presley’s photograph on it. To buy, sell, or own it is not fraud. Passing the ID to someone to verify yourself as being Elvis Presley would be fraudulent. Buying it or selling it, again, not fraud. What you’re saying is akin to saying something illogical, like “guns kill people, so people who own guns are guilty of murder.” It’s stupid, and… Read more »
You’re trying to reason with a mentally retarded individual.
Yeah, and we’re getting really tired of responding to you.
That’s because you don’t like getting trounced.
If you don’t have the right to steal, then how can you give someone the right to steal on your behalf?
No … you stated it yourself: we’re trying to reason with a mentally retarded individual, short-bus-boy.
Do they make you wear a helmet when you ride that bus? Do you like licking the windows?
How many times per week do you perform fellatio on politicians?
You first. How many times per week do you bring young boys home to your parent’s basement and do gosh-knows-what with/to them?
How many photos of democide do you jack off to?
Fake ID’s are fraudulent by their very definition
/head desk
“I can have a photo ID of myself with Elvis Presley’s photograph on it”
A photo ID of yourself with someone else’s photo on it?
Are you an idiot or a comedian?
I can have a fake ID with my name and Elvis’s face, or vice-versa, or Elvis’s face and name, or some other name and face, and there’s nothing fraudulent about that unless I go to use it and represent myself as someone I’m not.
OK you answered my question you’re an idiot.
Do you sincerely think that merely having a fake ID on your person is creating a victim?
Who is the victim when a 20 year old uses a fake ID to get into a bar?
The bar owner that loses his liquor license because your drunk 20 year got into a fight and the police found out he was underage, that’s who. I’ve seen it happen.
I’m done responding to your moronic questions & insults, you’ll have to find someone else to troll.
What right does the ruling class have to intervene in voluntary, peaceful commerce?
You didn’t answer state hater’s question Justin. You were asked “who is the victim?”. In your narrative, the bar owner peacefully sells a beverage to a 20-year old. That 20-year old gets into a fight. But, instead of one crime, there’s now two crimes. First, there’s the actual crime – where a 20-year old targets his victim in an unprovoked attack; next, there’s the state-manufactured crime – where the state has declared that only people of a certain age may drink. As you like to say, Justin, there are two sides to every story. You’re argument (of course) is based… Read more »
Drac,
You got lost. I did answer the question. You just didn’t like my answer. My answer is based on real life, something that actually as a direct consequence of someone using a fake ID and I have no desire to chase you down rabbit holes to argue about hypotheticals.
Justin. While I’m well-aware of the realities of the situation, I still wonder why you (and others) insist upon ranking such hypotheticals over actuals. Your answer to every question always ultimately dwindles down to the same premise – we must do what we’re told or else. And if our masters also choose to provide an argument that such laws makes us safer (or prevents fraud in your example), well then that makes the law even more justified. Still, you are correct. I’m not satisfied with those answers. But that’s because I prefer reason over force, something I’m sure Aristotle also… Read more »
Drac you’re still lost.
My answer was based on a real life actual and it was YOU that wanted to debate a hypothetical.
Debate? Is that why you’re here?
I have no interest in debating with you, Justin. That would be a waste of time. And as you elegantly put things, I don’t care what you think. I’m just examining your thought processes and trying to learn more from you. So far I’ve learned that you prefer the hard realities of force over reason. Unfortunately, that’s all I’ve learned. Maybe you’re just not a good teacher.
Drac you say you have no interest in debating me and then you contradict yourself by repeatedly hitting the reply button and debating me.
You do know that makes you look like an idiot right?
I’m just exchanging ideas with you, Justin. Yet you persistently continue with the insults. Civil discussion is just unthinkable to you isn’t it? What exactly are you afraid of, Justin? That you might be wrong? Would that be such a disaster?
The projection in you is strong.
Oh wow … that was a whole lot of incomprehensible nonsense. You’re a fucking moron.
Notice how Drac ignores my argument that describes a real life actual and then proceeds to construct his strawman to argue against.
It’s possible he’s not a moron, it could be simple dishonesty or cognitive dissonance.
Oh no … he’s definitely a moron. I mean, c’mon: isn’t it obvious?
Yes, in that case, the bar owner was victimized… by the State, not the 20-year-old.
No, he was victimized by the actions of a 20 year old punk that used his fake ID to lie his way into bar. I don’t know how you come to the conclusion the bar owner was victimized by the state, that liquor license is a contract between the bar owner and the state, if the bar owner violates the terms of the contract, he loses his license. The bar owner pays a LOT of money for that liquor license, he knows what the terms of the contract are when he applies to get that liquor license. You do believe… Read more »
LoL … douchebag.
Where’s your answer, cowardly shithead?
The bar owner and staff, you oxygen thief. They get caught, goodbye liquor license.
Justin, you have the patience of a saint. Why even take their questions seriously and engage in a debate? It’s not like these are valid statements or premises they’re making. No one outside of libertard land contemplates this nonsense or considers it even remotely logical or sane. It’s like arguing against someone who claims the world is flat.
That and the fact that their reasoning skills and scatological ad hominem attacks tell me they have the intellectual capacity of 15 year olds.
I like exposing their ignorance so they don’t multiply.
I find posters like state hater (that are so over the top you could almost mistake him for a Poe) amusing.
You fucking imbecile, the bar owner would not suffer in the absence of your god, the state. You’re so fucking stupid that you’re obviously unable to chew gum and walk at the same time.
Not true. If it is a forged government document (driver’s license, passport, etc.) just the mere possession of it is illegal in and of itself.
Your argument is like stating I can possess heroin, but only when I decide to shoot it up is it illegal. More idiotic freetard nonsense.
No victim, no crime, asshole.
Cool, could you just point out where in any federal or state statutes it states that sentiment? Or perhaps in any of the foundational documents upon which our legal system is based?
See, you idiots keep saying that bumpersticker bullshit like it means something to people. It doesn’t, most certainly not to people who actually matter.
Can you delegate to others a right that you don’t have?
Can you create a right that you don’t have or refuse to follow a law you don’t agree with?
Moron.
Of course you can refuse to follow an unjust law, scum sucker.
Or in your case: bad father, big asshole.
Be a real man and try to enslave other people on your own, without getting your mentally retarded coproach heroes to do it for you.
That’s not how our system works, freetard. Like I’ve stated before: find another country to live in.
I don’t care what the evil shitheads whom you worship say. They don’t own me, and I don’t take orders from them, fucker.
Right, right … whatever. You just keep thinking that, little freetard, if it makes you feel better.
Like I said, if you’re so adamantly opposed to self-ownership, then try to enslave us yourself, like a real man.
According to you, you’re already enslaved internet tough guy.
You fuckers are losing.
Right, right … whatever. You just keep thinking that, little freetard, if it makes you feel better.
Actually, yeah you do. You have to follow our laws or face the consequences; it’s as simple as that. So maybe you and Jeb and some of the other half-wit freetards can run around in the woods and pretend you’re some sort of “sovereign” Jeremiah Johnson types who answer to no man, but we all know what the truth really is. That’s the most hilarious thing about you freetards: you all talk a good game until reality comes along and punches you right in the fucking mouth; then you’re paying fines and/or doing jail time just like anyone else convicted… Read more »
Address Just M.’s points, imbecile.
The real fraud is the government passing itself off as the only entity that’s entitled to issue IDs.
Before you troll, you 1st need to learn not to say something stupid that proves to everyone that you’re a complete moron.
Government is NOT the only entity that is entitled to issue IDs. Your supermarket, your health club, your school, your bank, the company you work for, etc etc…. are all entitled to issue IDs There is no monopoly on issuing IDs.
When a fake ID changes hands, who is the victim?
When a gun changes hands, who is the victim?
Moron, merely possessing a fake ID does not constitute fraud, just as merely possessing a gun does not constitute murder.
Fucking loser. Fake ID’s are illegal. I know that means nothing to an incredible shitbag douche like yourself, but there it is.
You’re bitching about someone encroaching on a government monopoly.
Identify theft I have a problem with. A Fake ID who cares. Tell me how a fake ID is going to harm you Sammy and your college educated dog?
Craigslist is rampant with prostitution and stolen goods,
… which they are constantly vigilant against and remove those posts as they find them – huge difference.
It only takes missing one so shouldn’t they be held liable as an accessory? How about HSBC and all the drug lord account they still hold hmmm? I can go on facebook right now and get a hooker how come they are not in jail?
There are young boys who troll Facebook as hookers? Lucky for you, right?
So should the stock holders and corporate officers of Facebook go to jail? If they miss one the are still an accessory right? I cannot get too upset with you Sammy, your one of those people that if the law was written that you had to clean a dogs balls with your own tongue you would do it with a smile.
Hi Derrick: was it possible for terrorists to traffic in drugs and firearms across borders on the Silk Road site?
You should write your congressmen and tell them to arrest the craigslist creators and operators. Murder, prostitution, drug dealing, and the sell of stolen goods regularly occurs on this site yet for some reason they are not in jail…. Sure they may try to remove them but it still happens so why not punish them for it?
“The prosecutors are well funded and working within a system where they are on the same side as the judge.”
Bernard … STFU. You’re a complete moron.
You’re the pathetic piece of shit who’s proud to publicly proclaim that you’re owned by others.
Does your Mom know what you do down in the basement all night? What time does the short bus pick you up in the morning to take you to the special school you attend?
My parents must own a really large house for me to be in their basement from one thousand miles away, retard.
Go ahead and continue bragging about how you’re proud that you’re owned by others, you limp-wristed piece-of-shit.
My my my, not very libertard of you, making gay jokes? You’re definitely 15 years old.
Shit-for-brains, we stand for the right to say whatever we want.
“you limp-wristed piece-of-shit.”
I guess that means you won’t be attending Buzz’s Big Gay Dance Party @ PorcFest?
There’s no connection.
“NH liberty activists have been doing jury rights outreach for years and defendants at trial in New Hampshire have been able to raise jury nullification as a defense, ”
Um, no – they haven’t. There’s what you freetards think is the truth … and then there’s the truth:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/24/jury-nullification-law-gutted-by-new-ham
Go fuck yourself, Bernard.
Uh, yeah they have been allowed. I’ve seen it done in multiple trials. Maybe that will change since that supreme court case, maybe not. Guess we’ll see.
Seen what done? No one in the State of NH has ever been found not guilty because of jury nullification. Now with the NH Supreme Court stating there is no such thing as jury nullification, the point is moot. Once again, you freetard douchebags get pwned.
You’re wrong:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12892-new-hampshire-jury-nullifies-major-felony-marijuana-case
And just because the Supreme Court gutted the law in no way means that a jury cannot still use jury nullification, it simply means that the judge will no longer be obligated to inform the jury of their right to nullify. Or at least that is my understanding.
The jurors have always had the right to nullify so now that the judge is no longer obligated you are right back where you started.
The problem is jurors are ignorant of the law and if you want to change/fix the situation then it’s up to you activists to educate people BEFORE they ever get picked to serve on a jury.
It also means the judge can set aside a jury’s verdict and issue a directed verdict if he/she feels they are attempting to employ nullification. Game, set, match. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 … STFU.
Not true. A directed verdict of guilty is not allowed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_verdict
Authoritarian scum like you are getting pwned left and right, from little things like irreparably brainwashed people of the older generations dying of natural causes every single day (and being replaced by newborns who will grow up to be voluntaryists), to big things, like coproaches being forced to drastically cut back on victimizing people in NYC after two of them were shot and killed.
Is it true you dress up in a police uniform and pay people to spank and tell you what a naughty policeman you’ve been?
You’re just another Internet Warrior … all talk, no action, no brains, no life. What a joke.
I’ve defended myself in real life many times, unlike you, slavetard pussy.
Right, right … of course you have. Slapping someone on the hand and then prancing away is not considered “defending” one’s self, tinkerbell.
Maybe we can discuss it somewhere in Keene.
NY City where every 210 feet has someone protesting something. No one even notices them anymore.
Morons, the silk road was nothing but a front for drug trafficking. By the way, I’m guessing you have a day off from work, Lol, I know I’m supporting you aren’t I.
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