EXCLUSIVE: Free Stater Alleged to be Silk Road Admin, “Inigo”

The Silk Road

The Silk Road

Free State Project participant Andrew Michael Jones of Norfolk, Virginia was arrested in December of 2013 along with others accused of being the operators of the Silk Road underground marketplace. Andrew is alleged to be the longtime site administrator, “Inigo”. Thus far, almost all of the news headlines about the Silk Road arrests have gone to Ross Ulbricht, who is accused of being the infamous site’s creator and head admin, “Dread Pirate Roberts”. Andrew is accused of similar allegations as Ross, “conspiracy to commit money laundering, narcotics trafficking, and hacking” and is facing spending the rest of his life in federal prison.

While Ross Ulbricht was not offered bail, Andrew was able to get out on $1,000,000 bail thanks to his parents, who did not have anything close to that amount of money, so they put up their house and retirement incomes to secure a bond. His bail conditions include 24/7 house arrest at his parents’ house and being strictly forbidden from using any internet capable device. His girlfriend, Birdie, (who is also a Free State Project participant) is the one who reached out to me and she and Andrew’s family have set up a website to accept contributions to his legal fund, as they can use all the help they can get.

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Birdie and Andrew

Andrew’s mother, Judy Jones, 68, told me this about him, “He’s very bright, kind, generous and has always been an idealist. When he first told me about bitcoins, he helped me envision a world where the central banks are no longer in charge of money. If it were instead a peer-based monetary system, so much good can come from that. I have hope for a better world thanks to his generation (the Millennials).”

Unlike Ross’ case, Andrew does not face the “kingpin” charge. Plus, he has not been libeled with allegations of murder for hire, as Ross has. Hopefully, that will help with this fundraising ability. He has retained the services of attorney Samuel M. Braverman and the bill will likely be very expensive.

As have many activists looking at moving to New Hampshire, Andrew and Birdie made the pilgrimage to Keene in December of 2012 and came to visit Social Sunday. I met both of them there and truly hope he can get through this difficult time with the minimum damage possible. If Andrew did not administer the Silk Road, then he’s a man wrongfully accused, but if he did, he’s a hero. The Silk Road was (and is) the most important development to happen to the black market in our lifetimes.

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Donate Bitcoin to Andrew

It has reduced harm caused from unscrupulous dealers selling bunk product in the streets and has reduced violence by making both sides of each transaction anonymous, and separating them by distance. No one can get beaten or killed in a Silk Road transaction and the underground marketplace has a ratings system, ensuring the quality dealers are easy to identify. This open, yet anonymous competition for international business results in product quality and selection going up while prices come down from what one would pay on the streets. The Silk Road has literally saved lives, both of dealers as well as users who would have overdosed on bad street drugs, but instead were able to get good quality product from the Silk Road. If Andrew Jones was involved in the Silk Road enterprise, he should be given an award, rather than prison time. Of course, that would be in a just world that understands the insanity of drug prohibition, or any prohibition for that matter.

If you love liberty, please support Andrew’s defense by contributing via BTC or credit card/paypal (I just sent them a whole bitcoin.), and sharing this story via your favorite social media and online forums. Also, please share his defense fundraising site, DrewsDefense.org.  Finally, consider joining Andrew, his girlfriend, and Ross Ulbricht’s mother Lyn (she signed up at Porcfest!) and sign up now for the Free State Project. People who love liberty are moving to New Hampshire and getting active to build liberty-oriented community. Over 1,600 are here in NH already and nearly 16,000 are pledged to move once we reach 20,000 signers. We need you! Please read the Free State Project’s “Statement of Intent”, sign it, and start making your plans to move and get involved with the most exciting and successful migration for liberty in the world.  Stay tuned here to Free Keene for the latest on this case.

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93 Comments

  1. Judy Roman Jones

    Thank you so much for your support. It means the world to us!

    Reply
  2. Matt Roach

    I’m happy to hear of this. In my opinion, this is PROOF that the Silk Road folks are some of the best that civilization has to offer!

    Reply
  3. slappy

    lol, silly government! I’m Inigio, and I am not a member of the FSP. They better let that poor guy go.

    Reply
  4. Bane

    Our society will eventually incarcerate every single one of you fucking degenerate drug dealers and freetards. Drugs are a scourge on our society and anyone that encourages or participates in dealing drugs should be made to pay a heavy cost for doing so.

    Reply
    • Greg

      “our society”

      Says it right there. The individual matters not to fascists like “Bane”.

    • Bane

      So Greg, tell me: we should not prosecute people who break the law? If you think drugs laws are unjust, then work to change them, although I can tell you that no one really gives a fuck what people like you think.

    • ZombieUSAVoters

      Who’s law?

    • NHnative

      It was once a federal crime to help escaped slaves. Everyone who participated in the underground railroad was committing a federal crime. Would you support the enforcement of those laws too? Throw Harriet Tubman in jail?

      Here’s an idea: grow a conscience of your own. The opinions of politicians are not the definition of right and wrong.

    • Bane

      Saying that your issues with drug laws are on par with slavery shows the absolute ignorance and sheer arrogance of the freetard movement.

      You’re pathetic.

    • Jake Witmer

      Pathetic is any “man” who lets others make their moral decisions for them. Such a person is actually more of a dog than a man. Lower animals are capable of obedience, it takes a man to have a valid moral hierarchy.

    • Bane

      Jake – thanks again for taking time away from masturbating to images of little boys you found on the Internet to post your message. Do your parents know what you’re doing down in their basement all day?

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Can one break a law that does not apply to them? Doesn’t your conclusion that one has broken a law imply the presumption that the law applies to them in the first place? Is there any evidence proving “the law” you speak of actually applies to anyone in the geographic area of New Hampshire?

    • Jake Witmer

      People like yourself are Nazis plain and simple that’s what the Milgram study proved. In fact similar sentiments were echoed all around Germany in the 1930s if you don’t like the law change it until then to the gas chamber with you. But to be raised in America and have that viewpoint you have to be a special kind of stupid.

      And what is the most legitimate law that actually counters your view? The sixth amendment to the constitution references the common-law. Under the common-law all criminal offenses must have what is called a corpus delicti: injury and intent to injure a specific named party.

    • patrick tetreault

      Well I must be a special kind of stupid then also cause the laws like DUI and others do effect others in some cases tragically so that being said anyone who is against the state providing us with roadways that are safe for us all to pass over is absolutely 100% a moron!

    • Jake Witmer

      Yep, you really are an unphilosophical moron. In the rare case that someone is harmed by reckless driving (failure to exercise control over one’s dangerous vehicle), then that is, in fact, a crime with a valid corpus delicti, because there is then INJURY. The intent portion of the corpus is “willful negligence” …to be decided by a proper JURY. It isn’t that hard to learn how this country was constructed.

      But don’t feel bad, most “libertarians” don’t understand this either. All it takes is functional mirror neurons; basic human empathy. That’s apparently asking too much of most anti-American “Americans.”

      And as for the roadways, if you really think that people wouldn’t pay far less than 1/1,000 of the taxes (and debt) they currently pay to voluntarily finance the roadways, then you’re a fool.

    • Bane

      LMAO … that is absolutely NOT what “corpus delicti” means, you fucking moron:

      Corpus delicti (Latin: “body of crime”; plural: corpora delicti) is a term from Western jurisprudence referring to the principle that a crime must have been proven to have occurred before a person can be convicted of committing that crime.

      Leave the law to lawyers, dipshit, because you don’t have a clue.

    • Bane

      LMAO … that is absolutely NOT what “corpus delicti” means, you fucking moron:

      Corpus delicti (Latin: “body of crime”; plural: corpora delicti) is a term from Western jurisprudence referring to the principle that a crime must have been proven to have occurred before a person can be convicted of committing that crime.

      Leave the law to lawyers, dipshit, because you don’t have a clue.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      2. “In every criminal trial, the prosecution must prove the corpus delecti, or the body of the crime itself-i.e., the fact of injury, loss or harm, and the existence of a criminal agency as its cause.” People v. Sapp, 73 P.3d 433, 467 (Cal. 2003) [quoting People v. Alvarez, (2002) 27 Cal.4th 1161, 1168-1169, 119 Cal.Rptr.2d 903, 46 P.3d 372.].

      3. “The corpus delecti rule requires that the corpus delecti or the body or substance of the crime charged be proved independent from the accused’s extrajudicial confession or admissions. The corpus delecti of a crime consists of two elements: (1) the fact of the injury or loss or harm, and (2) the existence of a criminal agency as its cause. [citing] People v Jennings, 53 Cal 3d 334, 279 Cal Rptr 780, 807 P2d 1009, 92 CDOS 2576, 91 Daily Journal DAR 4222, reh den. cert den (US) 116 L Ed 2d 464, 112 S Ct 443…People v Pensinger, 52 Cal 3d 1210, 278 Cal Rptr 640, 805 P2d 899, 91 CDOS 1514, 91 Daily Journal DAR 2504, mod 53 Cal 3d 729a, 91 Daily Journal DAR 4745 and stay gr (Cal) 1991 Cal LEXIS 3318 and reh den. cert den (US) 116 L Ed 2d 290, 112 S Ct 351, 91 Daily Journal DAR 12909, reh den (US) 116 L Ed 2d 821, 112 S Ct 923; State v Pullos, 76 Idaho 369, 283 P2d 590; People v Friedland (1st Dist) 202 Ill App 3d 1094, 148 Ill Dec 415, 560 NE2d 1012; Brown v State, 239 Ind 184, 154 NE2d 720, cert den 361 US 936, 4 L Ed 2d 360, 80 S Ct 375; Joseph v State, 236 Ind 529, 141 NE2d 109, 69 ALR2d 824, cert dism 359 US 117, 3 L Ed 2d 673, 79 S Ct 720; People v Aiken, 66 Mich 460, 33 NW 821; People v Gould, 156 Mich App 413, 402 NW2d 27; State v Simler, 350 Mo 646, 167 SW2d 376; State v Hill, 47 NJ 490, 221 A2d 725; State v Robinson (App. Scioto Co) 83 Ohio L Abs 259, 168 NE2d 328; State v Brown, 103 SC 437, 88 SE 21…there must be sufficient proof of both elements of the corpus delecti beyond a reasonable doubt.” 29A American Jurisprudence Second Ed., Evidence § 1476.

    • Adam Hartman

      Drug warriors should be hanged for the public good.

    • arniel

      What a pathetic excuse for a human being.
      Willing to enslave and murder his fellow man for doing things he doesn’t approve of to themselves.

    • Bane

      It’s against the law, you moron. We have laws in our society and everyone must answer for their crimes. Go find another country that’s more to your liking if you’re not happy here.

    • Keene Common Good Alliance

      “It’s against the law, you moron.”

      Exactly! It’s a bad thing to justify breaking a law just because you don’t like it. It’s a tragedy that today law-breakers and criminals like The Underground Railroad gang, Rosa Parks, M. Gandhi and others are celebrated as heros.

    • Bane

      Not the same thing, you ignorant fucktard.

    • Zachary Yates

      Could you explain how it’s not the same thing? I don’t understand.

    • What's the frequency, Kenneth?

      He can’t, because it actually is. What really convinced me about his position, though, is that he called you a fucktard. 😉

    • Jake Witmer

      You keep claiming that the moral principles behind proper civil disobedience don’t apply without offering any evidence. Could this be because your mindless and servile? It certainly appears that way.

    • Bane

      Given your propensity for masturbating to images of young boys you found on the Internet, where do you find the time for anything else? Do your parents know what you’re doing in their basement?

    • ZombieUSAVoters

      Bane is the kind of guy who would turn the run away slave back over to his master BECAUSE ITS THE LAW. Again who’s law Bane? Show me where I signed up for this crap. Grow some balls and stop being afraid of people.

    • Bane

      You live in this country, you abide by its laws. You don’t get to “opt out”, you ignorant douche.

      Leave and go somewhere else where things are more to your liking – if you can find it.

    • Hallie Jo Miller

      It used to be against the law for black people to sit in the front of busses, I’m sure Bane would have been there holding a dog or firehose to protect his precious laws.

    • Bane

      LoL … Get a clue, you stupid cunt.

    • Jake Witmer

      Stanley Milgram proves that he would have. Unless you stretch credulity to suggest he’d have been one of the dissenters. LOL!

    • patrick tetreault

      That is as simple as it gets I always hear from Free Staters I didn’t agree to this or I don’t agree with that, well then move somewhere else none of us agree with all laws or ordinances but Bane is right when enough people tell their reps and senators they want them changed then it can happen! Just arbitrarily not following laws is not the right way! Comparing todays laws with the civil rights mistakes of the past is just plain stupid you people gotta be smart enough to find this society you wish to create somewhere other than Keene it should be obvious by now you people are not wanted here because of the way you act!

    • jeb

      HOW’S THAT WORKING WITH MEDICAL MJ AND MJ DECRIM? Oh yeah, that’s right, despite the people’s wishes, there is one despotic tyrant holding it up in NH so she can continue getting campaign donations from police and prison worker unions. It doesn’t work as you say it does and anyone who’s actually tried to effect change knows this. Also, the federal gov’t is totally disregarding the will of the people on this, even in states where it’s been put to a vote and legalized. Just write your representative to change the world sentiment is about the most naive thing I’ve read today. Why don’t black people just write their reps so police will stop harassing and shooting them?

    • Bane

      Move to Colorado or Washington State, then – the people in NH don’t want MJ fully decriminalized.

      I just love how freetard morons like yourself act like selfish, spoiled children. It’s amusing and sad at the same time.

      “Despite the people’s wishes” ? Which “people”? Where are the angry hordes of citizens marching on the statehouse demanding the governor decriminalize MJ? I’m talking about real citizens – not the rag-tag contingent of freetards and other freeloaders with nothing else to do all day.

      The “people” don’t want it – “you” want it. Big difference.

    • jeb

      The people do want it though. It keeps passing the house (the people’s house), with support from both republicans and democrats but our tyrant governors are too addicted to that sweet campaign cash from the cops, to let it through.

      And, for all this talk about non-productivity, what do you call trolling an “irrelevant” blog? I pay a lot in taxes, probably more than both of you. I don’t use the public schools here, my kids are homeschooled. I’m not on welfare to any extent and I’m looking to buy even more property in this state.

    • Bane

      They can override her veto, dumbass, if there are enough votes – so obviously the people DO NOT want it badly enough.

      And btw: your kids are homeschooled with oversight by the state, so don’t pretend you can just do what you want – you can’t.

      You’re a moron.

    • jeb

      Oh, so you’ve witnessed my children and their homechooling program and the registration thereof? Just because you found an RSA that states that I must do something doesn’t change the fact that they are simply words written on paper and I can assure you that there is no state oversight of my children’s education. Nor will there be at any point.

      Moron.

    • jeb

      Again, I don’t follow your rules. I’m not registering my children with anybody. Now you’ll call for my imprisonment, right? People like me belong in jail. How dare I take full responsibility for my own children and their educations. How dare I educate them in a non socialist fashion for 1/20th the cost of public ed. in Keene, How dare I provide them with a better education without your permission.

    • Bane

      All of you freetards eventually have your day in court for thinking you can just do what you want … it’s inevitable. Looking forward to seeing you there.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Thats great I wish every parent would do the same.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      What is the “state”, factually speaking, that has “oversight”? An idea in your mind or is there an actual physical referent to this term, the “state”? When you use the term “the state” in such a context, to what are you referring?

    • Jake Witmer

      He’s referring to the sociopaths that run for office: all the people who want authority the most, and can least be trusted with it. He loves those punishment-loving authoritarians, and sucks up to them.

      As such, he’s totally and completely un-American, and any of the Founders would have shot him as they would a rabid dog: to put him out of his own misery. No doubt, if he were born in 1900s in Germany, he would have extolled the virtues of Hitler, etcetera. He is someone who has disavowed logic and reason in favor of worshipping power.

    • Bane

      Are you threatening to shoot and kill me, Jake?

      Thanks for taking time from jerking off to images of little boys you found on the Internet to post your messages. I’m sure everyone appreciates them.

    • Jake Witmer

      Fuck off and die, you authoritarian idiot. …As if you knew what the intelligent Anericans of any state wanted. No, you can only argue for those of equal low intellect.

    • Bane

      LoL … Come make me shut up, Jake – come all the way to NH and make me. You’re a real tough keyboard warrior, aren’t you? I’m so a-scared LoL. Bring the rest of your half-wit family as well to help you, douchebag.

    • patrick tetreault

      I’m all for being in control of your own body but think about the argument here for a minute! Drugs what can possibly be good about having the right to use them freely? Why can’t we just be happy without them are they really needed to function? I think not it’s tough to convince the millions of non users what would be good about them! How stupid do you people sound saying oh it should be legal to posses and use drugs! I keep asking this question over and over again and non of you freestaters answer: Why if this country is so bad and you don’t agree with our laws and you know you are the minority why then don’t you find another country to call home? We need productive people here who want to work and pay taxes not bums who want to fight every law they don’t agree with! Remember nobody just sat around and said hmmm what laws can we just invent to piss off the people these laws were all put in place because their was some type of problem or obvious reason why it was needed. I know this allot more people than you think are growing very tired of your antics here in the SHIRE as you call it! trust me stop free Keene is the least of you peoples worries they are a very small group that is very active. You peoples actions are very un-American at times and while I believe in our Constitution and your rights to free speech I also believe that the abuse of your rights to harass other people just because you can will end up being a major problem that nobody wants or needs! So go to Canada or Mexico or anywhere you want and see where your defiance of their laws you don’t like gets you cause we all know the defiance of the laws and the lack of respect for those who took the oath to uphold them here is 2 easy on you! I find it so funny how you people hide behind the Constitution and laws when you need them but choose not to acknowledge or follow the ones you don’t like! I don’t think we have what you need here maybe you people could buy an Island somewhere and have no police schools or fire dept’s just like you want combined with no laws or taxes and then we would find out if all these great things you people want creates the perfect society and we could all try to beg you for your acceptance of us into your wonderful happy place, or maybe we will be happy to stay home!

    • jeb

      I’m a native. You leave. I like it here and my new friends are awesome. You should leave now while it’s still bearable and your chains are securely fastened because those chains are disappearing and you don’t seem too enthused.

      And regarding drug policy, you’re asking the wrong questions. The question you should be asking is; How much harm has the prohibition of drugs caused to our economies, societies and families? How much more harm can it do (border violence, where do cartels get their money, where did al capone get his money)? Why on earth are you so attracted to people using violence on your behalf against people who do things you don’t personally enjoy? Why can’t you leave you neighbors alone and let them pursue their version of happiness and their American dream?

      You are just nosy busy bodies the way I see it.

    • Bane

      But you don’t like it here. You’re bitching left-and-right about “unjust laws” and other moronic topics that the vast majority of people in NH could care less about. You don’t like our laws: then either change them or leave.

      Oh, btw: since people like you are in the extreme minority in NH – you would have better luck getting pigs to fly then getting laws you don’t like changed. Bye-bye, freetard.

    • jeb

      BTW….We are changing them. Court precedents are being set, laws are being changed legislatively and protests are now common occurrence. That’s why people like you are bothered enough to post here everyday. If we weren’t having an impact, you wouldn’t bother.

    • jeb

      I also don’t license my dog and I burn fires without permits and during the bans. Come and get me. Make sure you spend millions in pursuit of “justice” on this one.

    • Bane

      If I lived near or next to you, I’d just come over and slap the shit out of you for burning during bans – that would solve the problem. It’s obvious you’re just another one of these selfish freetard asswipes who could give a shit about anyone else. Eventually, the law catches up to freetards like yourself and justice is done.

    • jeb

      Internet threats for the win. If I’d only known you were such a big tough guy, I would’ve abandoned my principles long ago.

      You’re an idiot and pulling a stunt like around here might get you shot.

    • Bane

      Really – shot? LoL. Bring it, douchebag. You fucktards seem to not realize that the other guy might have a firearm as well – and is probably a much better shot than you.

    • jeb

      Really? So now you’re going to run up in my yard menacing with a firearm over a fire pit and I’m the one that belongs in prison? I am a scourge on society? You’re bat shit crazy if you’d really do something like that and you’re lucky to be alive today if that’s how you really behave. Give it go and see what happens.

      I don’t believe any of it though. That’s why you do it here not in the real world. You don’t have the balls.

    • Bane

      What laws are being changed? You douchebags are having NO impact – none. You’re the laughing stock of NH.

    • jeb

      Knife ban has been repealed. A law was passed allowing business to give their education portion of their property taxes to education charities rather than the gov’t schools. Med MJ, despite there still being no legal way to aquire it (thanks maggie hassan). Jury nullification has been added to jury instructions. Just to name a few.

    • Bane

      “Jury nullification has been added to jury instructions.”

      Um, no – it hasn’t. The bill might have been signed, but I was seated on a criminal case in Manchester this year – no one said anything about nullification.

      “Knife ban has been repealed”

      Only certain kinds of knives and that was at the urging of other groups not affiliated with the FreeTard Project.

    • jeb

      The lady that introduced the knife ban repeal legislation, Rep Jenn Coffey, is a libertarian and Is either part of the FSP or a very close friend to many of the participants.

      Also, if not given the instructions to nullify, it gives the defendant, if convicted, the ability to appeal the case to a higher court.

      You are probably the dumbest, most misinformed motherfucker to ever post here.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      If that were true you wouldn’t bother.

    • Jake Witmer

      Making fun of Americans who favor property rights and individual freedom! Wow! The government schools really eliminated what little brain you were born with!

    • Bane

      Interesting, considering I went to private schools my entire life. I know you’re working with only one set of genes, Jake, so I’ll cut you some slack. Did you marry a sibling as well, just like your Mommy and Daddy did?

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Who cares what is legal or not? The real question is: are there any facts proving constitution/ legislation/ political laws actually apply to anyone?
      Or is this belief in those scriptures purely faith based? If your laws are religious scriptures taken on blind faith, then what gives you the right to violently force your religious scriptures onto others who are not adherents to your state religion?

    • patrick tetreault

      I seriously don’t care how you want to justify your belief the laws in this state or country don’t apply to you people or anyone for that matter if what you’re saying were even remotely true there would be nobody in our jails! I wonder how much you people would seriously want there to be no laws just think about that for a little while! You Liberty freaks wouldn’t last 2 days on an Island all together with no laws the peaceful road you supposedly speak of would be littered with trouble and peace would be the last thing on you peoples minds! You people are just so full of crap it makes me sick! Just keep breaking laws and using the argument that they don’t apply to you and please let me know how it all turns out! Meanwhile i’ll just keep obeying all of them and stay out of jail and the papers! I know your way is better because the other 99.9% of the population sure do it your way right?

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Beyond naked assertion, or “some guy said so” do you have any actual facts or evidence supporting the conclusion that “the laws of this state” are legally binding and apply to an individual just because they are in the geographic area of NH? Is your conclusion that they apply founded on any actual facts, or is it just blind faith in “some guy said so” or “some guys said so”? I notice in your rant you failed to produce any actual facts to support that conclusion. Do you have any or not?

    • Jake Witmer

      Good heavens, you are STUPID. By your same argument, we should still have alcohol prohibition and the loss of property rights, human life, and human freedom that accompanied it. Of course, since you lack principles of any kind, you cannot judge laws on their own merits, and blindly follow false authority.

    • Bane

      Hmm … you’re from Alaska. That means that – more than likely – your parents are siblings and you’re a genetic half-wit. That make sense, actually, given your comments here. Run along and let the people with two different sets of genes have a conversation, asswipe.

    • Jake Witmer

      “but Bane is right when enough people tell their reps and senators they want them changed then it can happen! ”

      Ah yes, more whimpering that we have to accept illegitimate authority until we can outvote it! That precious chestnut!

      But apparently you’re a completely illiterate mentally-enslaved idiot! If you weren’t, you’d know that even the biggest- government of the founding fathers argued that unjust laws should be DISOBEYED and then NULLIFIED by the jury (people against Croswell, 1804).

      Of course, you stand against the spirit of rebellion that this country was founded on. Too bad it’s not principled opposition, but “servility by default.”

      …I was looking for more of a fight.

    • Bane

      “illegitimate authority” ? Say who – you? LMAO.

      Jake – get a clue and find a state/country that is more in tune with your juvenile, naive view of the world. This is our state, and douchebags like yourself aren’t going to change it.

      You’re not even from around here, you pathetic asswipe. Run along and let the NH people discuss the issues – and you can fuck off.

    • jeb

      You do have a right to put whatever you want in to your own body so long as you are not harming another person. It is a civil rights issue because my body belongs to me, not the state and therefore they have no business in deciding what substances i may consume or not. There is a reason that the federal gov’t saw it necessary to amend the constitution to institute alcohol prohibition and it is because they didn’t have the authority to prohibit any product unless they amended the document from which any powers they did have were derived.

      Not to mention that police are using drugs (specifically MJ) as an excuse to violate peoples rights (specifically the right to be secure in ones home, automobile, computers, cell phones and other effects) in every community across the nation and disproportionately using it to target young black men.

      And the NH RSA regarding residency specifically states that you can claim residency in any state for any reason.

    • Bane

      “It is a civil rights issue because my body belongs to me, not the state and therefore they have no business in deciding what substances i may consume or not.

      You can certainly consume whatever you want, but if you’re arrested with substances that are illegal under current law then you will be prosecuted. Just because you think otherwise doesn’t make it so.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Fallacious appeal to violence.

    • Jake Witmer

      You’re nothing but a Nazi, and a simpleminded one at that. Every single person arguing against you here can fully understand your idiotic “arguments” (which are less complex than a beta male’s submissive whimpering). But you can’t grasp a single one of their counter-arguments.

      You’re the only one here who s defending “might makes right” and conflating that with an argument in favor of civilization. Milgram destroys the argument for simple pyramidal “obedience hierarchies” in his book, “Obedience to Authority.”

      Now fuck off and let the adults have a conversation, dickhead.

    • Bane

      oooooo “Nazi”. You poor pathetic asswipe.

      Jake – get a clue and find a state/country that is more in tune with your juvenile, naive view of the world. This is our state, and douchebags like yourself aren’t going to change it.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      So then would it be fair to say that the whole basis of your argument is “Because I/we said so”, and if we don’t just have blind faith in “because we said so” then your whole argument falls apart, or do you have any actual empirical evidence proving any political laws apply to anyone?

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      What is this “law” you speak of? Is it just an idea in your mind, or is it an actual physical item? If it is a real physical object, is the “law” a solid, liquid, or a gas? How much does it weigh? What color is it?

    • Jake Witmer

      The common law is a means of optimally applying a libertarian law (which prohibits force and fraud), based on the average of EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE from randomly-selected jurors. It’s what America was based on.

    • Jake Witmer

      It’s not against the common-law you moron. Additionally Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson both favored jury nullification of law in cases where there was no corpus delicti. So unfortunately it’s actually you who stands against Western civilization, and “the law.”

    • Bane

      Oh no … Jake is calling me names. Jake – get a clue and find a state/country that is more in tune with your juvenile, naive view of the world. This is our state and douchebags like yourself aren’t going to change it.

    • Keene Common Good Alliance

      Spot on! People who sell and consume drugs like alcohol, nicotin, caffeine should be incarcerated for life!!!!

    • Saryn

      Oh no alcohol, cigarettes and caffeine are ok because the government says they’re ok! Anything the government says must be the truth! You guys are super dumb for thinking for yourselves and disagreeing with our benevolent overlords. You should be sent to jail for life just for thinking such blasphemy! how dare you question the law! Some guys in suits made those laws! We must obey…

    • ZombieUSAVoters

      What society?

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Democracy is a system by which a minority special interest violently imposes its agenda on the majority. The notion that democracy is majority rule is one of the biggest myths of statism.

    • Jake Witmer

      You’re confusing corrupted “elections only” truncated views of democracy with properly-defined democracy. Proper democracy works really well, and includes all democratic limits on government power, including jury trials and widespread private gun ownership.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Talking about political democracy, elections basically. The political system.

    • What's the frequency, Kenneth?

      Interestingly, I guess that doesn’t matter much to me, because in either case, some are using force against others, and it wouldn’t matter if the “winners” outnumber the “losers,” as it wouldn’t make it moral.

    • RadicalAwesomeDude

      Right but it just goes to show how these political theories like “democracy” “constitutional law” “statutory law” “legislation” are purely conjectural and not actually founded on facts/evidence or any sound principals of science logic or reason, and how they are essentially self-contradictory. Maybe the significance is mostly academic but people really do kill each others because they believe in this stuff, so showing the logical inconsistencies I think is important because people really are brainwashed by this stuff. The more inconsistencies and contradictions you can draw out the better case you can make that the “State” religion is basically a superstition that has been handed down since it is completely unfounded(not supported by factual evidence). Instead of examining the facts and then drawing conclusions from the facts statism insists we start with the conclusion and then basically disregard whether or not the facts support the conclusion.
      So the myth is that political democracy is “majority rule”. A simple scientific inquiry as to the actual facts proves this to be false. In political democracy you almost NEVER get a “majority” to vote on ANYTHING.

    • What's the frequency, Kenneth?

      I suppose it would be the majority of those whose votes are counted rule, and that would only apply to a strict democracy, whereas, with a republic, the voters only get a ruler, not necessarily what they want. Nonetheless, the idea that the majority opinion should rule is based a logical fallacy anyway (argumentum ad populum.)

      Needless to say, there are many problems with “this voting thing.”

  5. Jake Witmer

    I love how often moronic collectivists actually label themselves appropriately. Bane was a nihilist collectivist who reduced society to a state of animalism in the latest Batman movie. And of course bane is defined as a disease, scourge, pestilence, or blight on something (in this case, society).

    So actually, the mindless authoritarian ranting in favor of servile obedience to unjust authority (below) is appropriately labeled.

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    • Bane

      Oh no … Jake is calling me names. Jake – get a clue and find a state/country that is more in tune with your juvenile, naive view of the world. This is our state, and douchebags like yourself aren’t going to change it.

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