Last night there was a DUI checkpoint in Manchester, NH. Some activists caught wind about the event and created signs to warn drivers to divert their paths. Dozens of activists participated, and probably hundreds of drivers were saved from unwanted interactions with police. Some people handed out “Know Your Rights” cards to passers-by on the street. I took video throughout the night to document this effective activism. One of the highlights of my night was rolling through the traffic stop with James “Robin Hood” Cleaveland. The checkpoint begins 5 minutes into the video. Here’s how it went:
Another great moment happened when James came back to speak with the Captain on foot. Although the police wouldn’t interact with him, James preached like a pastor from the sidewalk: “What if this isn’t about safety? What if this is about control?” he asked the police, who stood in stunned silence.
Full playlist of all DerrickJ’s raw video from that night:
Preaching to a police officer violating your right might be comical, but how useful is it? Most likely, either the officer already knew he was being a bad person by violating his oath and the Constitution and didn’t care, or he completely disagreed with you on the subject.
On the other hand, the sign holding was awesome. Great work, sign holders!
The purpose of debate is not to convince your opponent, but rather to convince your audience. He ain’t going to convince the cops, but others who are able to see and hear it may think about things in a new light.
And that’s why I like to remind folks to consider the audience when they discuss things online.
This is exactly why arguing with MaineShark is not a waste of time.
Not for me, anyway. I have a rather substantial track record when it comes to convincing folks to embrace liberty (in general) and to join the FSP and move to NH (in particular). When folks like you set yourselves up by making ridiculous claims that I can shred, it really makes my life very easy. Of course, that leads to the debate: do you get credit for helping convince folks to move? Or do do I get full credit?
LoL … you are definitely not as intelligent as you think you are. This entire “liberty” thing is a rather pathetic and sad display of adults acting like spoiled children.
He said “spoiled children.” Everybody drink!
Actually, I’m exactly as intelligent as I think I am. Professionally-tested and everything. But I’m almost always the first to say that intelligence, beyond a certain point, is pretty much meaningless. It’s like having a fast computer; nothing says that you aren’t using it to play solitaire instead of doing something useful, and nothing says that someone with a “slow computer” isn’t doing amazing work and just taking a little longer to get there (but getting far more done than the guy playing solitaire, despite the difference in equipment).
MaineShark may be exactly as intelligent he thinks he is. He’s just not as intelligent as he says he is.
Want to see something funny? Ask him to post an image of his supposed “professional” test results. You’ll be amazed how quickly the authority of a “professional” can become nothing more than the authority of his own say-so.
Have I ever said how intelligent I am?
No one intelligent actually cares about such things. Someone with an IQ of 60 can be right. And someone with an IQ of 260 can be wrong. A statement should be judged on its own merit.
Only fools imagine that IQ actually matters.
Have I ever said how intelligent I am? Hmm, good question. Let’s see… In this post you wrote, “I’m exactly as intelligent as I think I am. Professionally-tested and everything.” In this post you wrote, “I’m quite content with my intelligence, and have no trouble with the fact that I’m the least-intelligent individual in my house.” In this post you wrote, “I would be just as correct if I was only twice as smart as you (ie, still well below average) as I am from a point where “average” is too far down to even be meaningful. ” So clearly… Read more »
So, if I’ve said how intelligent I am, do please share the number.
Oh, wait, you can’t, because I haven’t. Your post is ridiculous. Saying that I know my own intelligence is not the same as expressing /how/ intelligent I am.
Even /you/ should be able to tell the difference.
And no, /answering/ someone else’s question is not the same as saying that something /matters/. Particularly when the answer is precisely to say that it does not matter.
I gotta hand it to MaineShark. Watching him contradict himself rather than admit he said something foolish is like watching a train wreck that never ends. So now any expression of intelligence must have a number in it? According to MaineShark’s latest excuse for logic, the statement “Einstein was the smartest man ever” is semantically nugatory, because there’s no number in it. In fact, taking MaineShark’s creative premise to absurdity (not very far to travel) there is no way to say anything about the magnitude of anything without a number. I’m so relieved to know that I won’t be offending… Read more »
For someone obsessed with intelligence and trying to /appear/ smart, you’re really /quite/ stupid. As in, impressively stupid. That or completely dishonest. Take your pick. You’ll go off on fantasy limbs about me stating that intelligence can solely be expressed by a number, without me actually saying that. So, either you’re a liar, or cannot comprehend basic English. Which is it? And no, mentioning IQ to those who are obsessed about it does not mean that /I/ think it matters. It means that it clearly matters to them. If someone says, “I’m smart, so I’m right” after making a ridiculously-incorrect… Read more »
There you have it folks, MaineShark comes through again with flying colors. Let me admit up front that I am an impressively stupid person. I had my IQ measured and my score was 85. Which makes it all-the-more humiliating for intelligence-obsessed MaineShark that I can so easily cut and paste his own quotations to prove him a liar. In my previous message I posed a “challenge” to MaineShark, and I use the quotes because this so-called challenge was nothing more than any honest person should rise to anytime, anywhere, with respect to anything they’ve said: namely simply to back up… Read more »
IQ has nothing to do with the amount of knowledge you posses or how much your brain can store. IQ is simply a measure of how good you are at problem solving. So basically Maine is right. Your knowledge is like your hard drive and your IQ is like your processor. You can have a 266 MHz processor with a hard drive full of truthful facts. Or you could have a 4 ghz processor with a drive full of nothing. Usually high IQs tend to store and access data faster, but if that data is incorrect you just sound like… Read more »
Now who’s the moron? And you were doing so well… Hint : addressing your rights is perfectly acceptable.
Notice that MaineShark fails to follow his own admonition by addressing me directly, whereas I know to address you, my audience, directly.
Notice also his skillful use of deceptive language. When folks like MaineShark come to my house every weekend and wash my car for free, it really makes my life very easy. I’m not claiming that MaineShark has ever done that. But neither have I ever made a ridiculous claim that MaineShark could have shredded.
Thanks for demonstrating a total lack of comprehension of what’s being discussed. I did not “admonish” anyone to address the audience. I discussed the purpose of debate. That purpose can be achieved by a variety of means, including addressing one’s opponent, directly.
Do try to keep up…
Nor is there anything deceptive about my language. You’re a newcomer, so it’s not reasonable to imagine that anyone has moved as a result of the deconstruction of something foolish that you’ve said. But if you keep it up, you’ll certainly help me to convince others to move.
Don’t address me, a hole.
Who are you addressing?
That was an unintelligent question. It said who I was replying to, or as you try to sound smarter by saying addressing.
This isn’t “Liberty Activism” … this is a bunch of unemployed or under-employed douchebags driving around harassing and trying to provoke police officers
You can’t “harass” someone who is engaged in harassment. That makes no sense. It’s like saying that someone “assaulted” a mugger who was beating him when he fought back.
Enforcing the law is harassment? That’s idiotic.
No, that’s accurate. Putting on a silly-looking uniform does not make one’s actions any different. If it would be harassment for me to do it, or harassment for you to do it, then it’s harassment for them to do it.
I realize that your religious belief in the State as some sort of deity makes you imagine that its priests have magical powers that mean they can do things which “mere mortals” cannot, but I can assure you that they are in no way special; they’re merely more psychotic than average, but that’s it.
Sharkie, you really do have some issues. I usually assume that someone with your kind of views wears a custom-fitted aluminum foil hat, but I guessing it goes a lot deeper than that.
This is why the “liberty” movement will never gain any real traction in NH or anywhere else: for the most part, You’re all stark raving mad.
Not all of them. Some are merely shark raving mad.
Yeah, let’s see… someone who says that all humans are equal, versus someone who says that putting on particular clothing makes someone super-human.
/One/ of those individuals is not sane. (hint: it’s the one that believes scraps of cloth grant extra rights)
There’s a difference?
I loved this video. The fact that there are so many people willing to stand up to the police state gives me hope for the future. From the footage, it looked like there were far more activists warning potential victims about the tax feeders waddling ahead than there were actual tax feeding thieves, kidnappers, and tow truck jackals altogether. The top highlight for me was the high irony of the stammering and stressed out Captain Archie Bunkerizing the word “duress” about 3 different ways while at the same time semi-self assuredly attempting to taunt the driver while waving a customer… Read more »
I just watched the 2nd video. The comments were interesting at the end about the importation of U.S. government control tactics from its far flung colonies back to the “homeland.” The great Chalmers Johnson used to say you either have to give up your Empire or live under it. Also, I loved the comment at 18:20 when the cops apparently wave a tow truck through the checkpoint. I think part of the reason it is amusing is something about juxtaposing the state socialist sector (cops) and the fascist/corporatist sector (tow truck outfits)–like the Marines and Blackwater in Fallujah or the… Read more »
LoL … my gosh, you’re a moron.
Beat me to it.
People of color get kidnapped and murdered for these kinds of stunts…if your white its alright…I guess.
Blame racist cops…
By focusing on race you narrow the focus of thought and miss the point. Susan Bruce focuses on suffering and chose to be a violent chest beating gorilla when she thinks she wins an argument …the nap to her is foolish self disarming so feminists can exercise more violence
Cops fear you because you’re violent
None of this will get through…thus today I think god exists…his designs is beyond comprehension
To you its, about race. To me, its a fact of life
I have no doubt race plays a part. I think a bigger part is played by these being Manchester NH cops and not, say NYC cops.
That doesn’t make what the activists are doing here wrong.
I’m wishing for african americans and people in major cities not to get kidnapped or murdered. There problem is those cases, not this case. People of any color have a right to speak their mind, in any city.
Typical responses from public SERVANTS. The people pay their salaries, and are rarely accountable TO the people, this is wrong in every sense of the word!
DUI checkpoints are locations that are manned by armed criminals, using threat and intimidation to prove a ‘need’ that never existed, and also an illegal and unconstitutional search, without warrant, for an act that has no validity, and no legal reason to be implemented, other than to control the people. It comes down to absolute control, NOT safety.
Keep up the good work!
http://nhrsa.org/law/265-4-disobeying-an-officer/?
You tools might want to read this.
If I’m not mistaken..wasn’t this a DUI check point? If you think a DUI check point is a bad thing try raising your kids after a drunk has shattered your life by killing your spouse, child or other love one (because the drunk
had a “right” to drive drunk). Let the cops do their job and get the drunks off the road- stupid morons. If I see you all on my road maybe I will have the right to just plow you over
The only one that is looking like a moron here is the sheeple like you that think they are getting drunk drivers off the roads at these checkpoints. Drunk Driving has nothing to do with these stops and Police Officers have admitted it. Out of every arrest, ticket, or warning given drunk driving is a very rare occurence. Before you go and call people morons, even people that support police officers have done research on how uneffective these are as seen in the article below. They are a waste of tax money. The problem here is you live your life… Read more »
DUI checkpoints don’t actually reduce rates of DUI. So yes, I think they are a bad thing: the interfere with honest folks, and do not actually prevent the harm that they are supposed to be preventing. Ergo, they are an unmitigated evil.
You guys are having all the fun!!!
Sorry guys, but you come across as a bunch of immature, uneducated kids with a half-assed agenda of trying to make a point, but unfortunately you missed the mark. I don’t agree with these check points myself either, but your approach to it is seriously lacking. The officer made “you” look like a fool as he sent you on your way. I admire your dedication but you should educate yourself more with certain laws and court cases (write them all down if need be) before attempting this again. My comments are meant to be construed as constructive criticism and nothing… Read more »
I like the idea behind what they ae doing but they’re not doing it right. He had no obligation to identify himself. He had no right to be illegally stopped and refused every single one of that pig’s orders. People have NO NEED for a driver’s license unless they are operating in commerce. It’s also illegal for the STATE to force you to have a license for something that’s not illegal in the first place. http://freedomfromgovernment.us/driver-licensing-vs-right-to-travel/
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