School Resource Officer Who Tackled Student Also Killed Man in 2010

Over the last several days the video and story about Keene High’s “school resource officer” Joshua English attacking and tackling a student for allegedly vaping in the school’s bathroom, has gone viral. However, there’s more to the story than cop-attacks-teen, though this incident alone is bad enough. In case you haven’t heard about this incident, according to other students the young man who was viciously attacked by English was vaping in the bathroom and English confronted him. The student heroically refused to identify himself to the armed, intimidating, uniformed man and walked out of the bathroom. Moments later, English bursted out of the bathroom and tackled the peaceful student, subduing him with a shocking level of force.

Thankfully, another brave student pulled out their phone upon hearing a commotion from inside the bathroom and captured the entire tackling on video:

Understandably many are outraged at the officer’s use of force over a simple vaping incident, but that’s not really what caused English to fly into a violent rage. The young victim’s real crime was disobedience. The youth had the gall to act as though he were a free man, walking away from a threatening, potentially violent anti-nicotine nuisance and attempting to go about his day. English has his “authority” to worry about and can’t possibly be seen by others as someone who one could just walk away from without consequence, so he used violence to dominate the young man in front of a crowd of people.

Keene Police have been making headlines nationwide for proclaiming that English was fully within police guidelines for his use of force against the “subject” – yes, that’s actually how they refer to the rest of us non-gang members. Keene police chief Steve Russo exonerated English in a recent release, saying his agent had not violated any department guidelines or state statutes, but Russo said further that English was worried the young man was a potential trespasser, claiming to the Union Leader, “At that point, he didn’t even know he was a student”.

Keene Police Officer Joshua English

Keene Police Officer Joshua English

Perhaps English needs to have his memory tested. While it would certainly be hard to remember previously seeing one random male in a school with over one thousand students, how could English forget that he’d written the same young man a ticket for “possessing tobacco products” two weeks prior? The student’s father showed the proof of this claim to WHDH-TV in Boston.

While Keene Police are trying to make English look like a hero protecting the school from a potential intruder, the reality is much different. In KPD’s official release, they claim the Keene Police and the school district are, “committed to maintaining the safety and security of the students…which may regrettably include when necessary, the use of force to secure that safety.” There were no allegations the young victim was doing anything violent. He was allegedly vaping in the bathroom. No one was threatened by the young man. The only dangerous, violent threat in Keene High School that day was Keene Police’s Joshua English. Who is he?

Don’t expect the mainstream media to do a modicum of digging about English. Otherwise you might have already discovered English shot a man to death in Keene back in 2010. Free Keene blogger and former police officer Brad Jardis covered the story here when English was found to be within the state’s use-of-force guidelines in the shooting incident. In that case, the man who was shot by English was holding a knife to a woman’s throat, so our blogger Jardis agreed with the shooting as necessary. However, is it really the best decision to assign one of the only officers at KPD who has violently taken another human being’s life the duty of being the high school’s cop?

Joshua English and Police Dog "Patriot"

Joshua English and Police Dog “Patriot”

That’s not all you need to know about English’s history in Keene. About a decade back, Keene liberty activists regularly went to karaoke night at a now-closed bar called Gino’s in north Keene. One night, a then-angry and likely drunk man named Dan French decided to attack liberty activist Rich Paul. While the two men were separated after French’s initial attack, someone in the bar called the police. There was no ongoing fight, but Keene Police officer Joshua English arrived on the scene brandishing an AR-15! Is it department policy for police to show up to respond to a simple assault and battery with a military assault rifle when the multiple officers on-scene all had sidearms? As an aside, French may have cooled down his hostility over the last decade, perhaps partially because the night of his attack, Rich Paul refused to identify French to the police, de-escalating the situation as he did not want to retaliate against French.

Also, if my memory is correct, English was formerly in the military. I was unable to verify this, however. KPD’s officer Steven Tenney could not recall whether English was former military when I spoke with Tenney by phone this afternoon. UPDATE Nov 8th – A KHS student asked English and he confirmed he was in the Marines for six years.

English isn’t the real problem, of course. Unless he’s actually a psychopath, English probably wanted to help stop bad guys and real violent criminals when he signed up to join the police. Then he got assigned as vape patrol at the high school and is now “just doing his job”. His job is the problem. Nicotine addiction is a difficult thing, but like any drug addiction, it’s a personal struggle for the individual to overcome. Using the state’s violence isn’t helping end addiction – the state makes everything worse. Despite the failure of alcohol prohibition, cannabis, and other ongoing drug prohibitions, people still have not learned their lesson. Prohibition does not work. It never has, and never will. It doesn’t matter how many peaceful vapers are attacked physically by cops, or how many street cigarette dealers are choked to death, nicotine use will continue and police will continue to whittle away their once-positive image by their ridiculous violent enforcement.

English, Russo, and the rest of KPD should grow a conscience and realize that it’s wrong to threaten and harm their peaceful neighbors over their choice of chemicals or any other peaceful, consensual act. There’s even an organization of police and former law enforcers who have come to their senses and are actually sorry for what they’ve done. I recommend any officer who really cares about right and wrong look into Law Enforcement Action Partnership aka LEAP. They used to be called Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and I’ve written a lot about their good work in New Hampshire over the years. LEAP rebranded when they expanded their issues to include other sensible reforms to policing, like being anti-militarization.

BEARCAT

Feeling safe yet?

Last year, the city gang in Keene passed a ridiculous ordinance prohibiting the possession of nicotine products by anyone under 21 years old and also banning sale of those products to under-21s. As we libertarians predicted at the time, despite the woman who proposed the ordinance not wanting to prohibit possession, the police would be targeting young people for harassment. I even confronted the police chief over this at the hearing where a city committee voted to approve the nicotine prohibition. I asked Russo if simply looking young was “reasonable articulable suspicion” for the police to demand identification from a young person with a vaporizer or cigarette. He admitted he believed it was, while simultaneously claiming they wouldn’t be stopping people in the streets – an obvious lie. That’s exactly what police can and will do. That is precisely what has been happening to countless under-18 Keene youth for years. Police would regularly harass, ticket, and arrest teens for nicotine use and now they can harass even more young people – any of them who they believe to be under 21.

Is a violent takedown of a vape-using young person what the prohibitionists imagined would happen when they passed their precious ordinance last year? Those of us who understand the consequences of prohibition saw this coming. Stop the madness and leave peaceful drug users alone.

The student victim in this case has been identified to me and I’ll be reaching out directly to him for comment. Stay tuned here to Free Keene for any updates.

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50 Comments

  1. There was no justification to tackle this young man and the Free Keene story makes it sound like there was some justification even if weak. That isn’t actually true. It isn’t clear that there was even evidence against him of smoking as no devices or contraband were found. The idea that a 15-year old student might be an intruder is absolutely batshit insane and clearly a made up excuse to make it sound like there was justification for assaulting this student. Considering that he was in a place for 15-year olds the idea that you can pull out any student and say its suspicious that they are in a school for that age group is absurd! And in a bathroom of all places where you would expect any human being to be who was there for the day. Then to find out that this kid was already known to the officer is yet more evidence that the cops are little more than a bunch of liars. Nothing they say can be believed.

    These liars need to be fired. If this was a one-off I’d kinda understand, but it’s not. It’s routine. Recently (this past year) they have also made press releases in an attempt to manipulate the population into believing that they are doing something to reduce DUI for all of our safety. Sounds like a really good idea until you learn the facts. The DUI stops aren’t effective. The population is only being led to believe via press releases that they are. The DUI stops in this county that they had arrested people for DUI crimes were fabricated. A 91a (freedom of information act request) revealed that in fact there was not a single DUI arrest over either of the two nights that they conducted DUI stops in the past year in this county.

    Now people were arrested and ticketed for non-DUI offenses- but this IS EXACTLY what the DUI stops are NOT permitted to be used according to the very courts that carved out an exception to the constitution to enable the cops to do this! The constitution protects against (unwarranted harassment and searches of our persons and property), but the treasonous supreme court decided to carve out an exception. The courts aren’t suppose to create laws yet that is effectively what they did. To justify this new law and violation of the constitution the judges require the police to get a special kind of “warrant” they created before they can conduct the suspicionless DUI checkpoints. This in and of itself is an unconscionable violation of the constitution that the US supreme court carved out. It was done so over a “safety” argument. Yet all the evidence and the cops themselves admit it is ineffective and it is a waste of resources. They won’t put out a press release saying that- but have admitted to this and been quoted as stating this much on a number of occasions. They get paid overtime to do these DUI checkpoints and thus are incentivized to LIE. This leads to officers making six figure salaries in places like Manchester where this is done more often. The best solution for stopping DUI is roving patrols where people who are weaving in and out of the lines get pulled over for suspicion of DUI. The POLICE ADMIT THIS and they all know the evidence is THIS. NOT DUI checkpoints. In these roving patrol cases there is at least justification for the stop prior. Whats worse is that because DUI checkpoints lack the suspicion element which is a necessary part of getting a conviction it is actually much harder for prosecutors to get a conviction in the court of law when they do actually catch someone who is drinking and driving.

  2. What part made you think I was suggesting this attack was somehow justified, KK? I’ve reviewed it and I am not clear on what you’re alleging.

  3. OMG folks! There is so much stuff going on in our schools that the public isn’t even aware of. It’s about time someone showed them who the boss was. NOT THEM!!!! The students starting from elementary age have no respect for adults. They are cocky and wise ass little shits. Their behaviors are unacceptable to adults. Nobody from the public was at the school to hear or see what happened from the beginning of this incident. Therefore we can’t pass judgment on Mr.English. How dare you bring up an episode from the past. That doesn’t define the type of person the officer is. He was doing his job and saving a life in danger. That is there job. Unfortunately all emergency service personnel have to be very cautious when dealing with anyone. This world has turned for the worse in a very short amount of years. Let’s give people the benefit of the doubt before slamming our local law enforcement or anyone else.

  4. The military will entice teen age cannon fodder dupes to sign up, and train them to obediently kill people on command if the other people happen to hail from a different plantation and wear different colored costumes.

    The militaristic overlords of the “City of Keene” won’t allow a person under 21 to make a choice about what they consume, “because it’s bad for you”.

    Then the “City of Keene” hires a mercenary killer cop to guard the government school, “protect students”, and he beats one.

    People are forced to fund all of this…forced to fund “protection” or they will be beaten and have their property stolen. Hmmm.

    Are we free yet?

  5. Yall suck at life.

    Kids get shot from a mass shooter in a school….” how terrible we have to do more to protect our kids”

    Unidentified person in a school is asked for his identity and chooses not to give it and walk past an officer of the law( NOW HAS BECOME A THREAT )……..
    “Oh poor kid was brutalized because he was tackled and put in hand cuffs”

    WTF is wrong with you paint chewing inbreads who think their kids should act this way to an officer.

    Quite simple, raise your kids to respect EVERYONE around them and not do stupid stuff in school that they arent supposed to.
    My kids will never get tackled or confronted by an officer because they are taught to respect them.

    BE WHERE YOUR SUPPOSEF TO BE aND DO THE RIGHT THING!

    And for freekeene.com you suck for twisting this whole story around. You are whats wrong with todays media.

  6. You people that write these articles sound like a bunch of whiners. Get the hell out of Keene. Bunch of bitches. People like you are the problem. Always had a problem with any kind of authority but god forbid you ever need these services they will come help you no matter how big of a bitch you are. Get a real job. All of you.

  7. I’m glad he tackled the guy. He easily could have tackled innocent people like arsonists and murderers. (I didnt know that vaping was that big of a criminal issue).

  8. Another one side officer slam piece. You have no clue as to what was really going on. A 19 second video does not tell the whole story. So, in Ian’s typical fashion, he adds his made up statements to try and sensationalize the story.

    The officer defended himself in a stand off 9 years ago. The Monday morning quarterback police officers who are usually uneducated in the story will spout their 2 cents worth which is usually 100% garbage. Why would he use a taser against a guy holding a knife to his girlfriends throat. It was open and shut. Kids in school with the attitude problems are going to be taken down should it warrant that situation.

    The officer looked smaller then the kid did so you can stop playing the “victim” because he did it himself.

    Children do not run the schools.

  9. Well. Idk how old English is….but… Ok…we didn’t see what happened
    previous to what shows on
    The video…
    Here’s one fact: if a copper aka subject English in this video…tells subject B aka the Highschool kid : “you are under arrest”.. [which may have happened before video start] …then subject B (the Highschool kid) proceeds to elude arrest…then said offer may take measures to secure said arrest, including it not limited to, a jujitsu style takedown
    Officer English has been ok imo (being a Keene person)…. I do appreciate the FK eye and scrutiny on these matters…and having the video…good job getting it and good job to the student shooting it!

  10. Now if it was that crooked motherfucker Tenney…that kpd cop should be in jail

  11. The kid could have told him his name…I think that’s the legal requirements..
    Not plastic ID…though in a. HS it probably ups ID requirements… If you don’t id your self, just verbally, ….maybe that’s what precipitated the snowballing of this

  12. Some might say “saved a women” who was being held at knife point…that’s a view too

  13. Now, now Jacks, we all saw Officer English being caught on video tackling a kid. One who by the way was no obvious threat to himself or others. That’s on Officer English, dear. Not on Ian, and certainly not on the kid who was assaulted.

    Do you know the reason why, Jacks? It’s because to people with sound judgment, vaping in a bathroom and walking out the door hardly qualifies as grounds for being thrown to the floor and handcuffed.

    I wonder why you’re unwilling to file that sort of nonsense under the category of unacceptable behavior? Do you think it might be because you grew up watching all of those exciting ’80s and ’90s TV shows that sensationalize police work? Be honest, Jacks. No one here will judge you too harshly. Those kinds of shows are fun, after all!

  14. Christopher, dear. We all understand that you derive pleasure in watching the City of Keene’s heavies compelling obedience on a recalcitrant child. But shouldn’t that sort of force be reserved for actual criminals, instead? Vaping in the bathroom is a disciplinary issue. One for parents and school authorities to handle. Not police.

  15. You tell ’em, Bestat! These guys need to follow ABC’s example and start burying stories that embarrass Keene’s authorities!

  16. When they said “resource officer” on the news , i was thinking rent a cop aka security guard…I didnt know they had real cops at schools…that i would challenge

  17. i dont even think we had a security guard at my high school….home schooling is a thing….if one can

  18. Shark: People in the US have become less violent as the result of environmental factors unrelated to police action. Changes in reporting over the past 30 years have been the result of financial benefit for which has provided us a warped view of the situation. Our schools are actually safer than they have ever been, but not because of the police. It’s actually the reverse which is true. The police have made our schools more dangerous by introducing people who are trained in handling real threats for which isn’t your typical scenario in most schools involving unruly youngsters. Outside of the inner city ghetto where there are gangs literally taking over schools law enforcement should not be present in schools. This doesn’t mean that a larger school with 8,000+ students shouldn’t have a security personal or two. However they shouldn’t be trained law enforcement with the authority to use excess force on students in routine situations where a child may need some chastisement. These are issues that principles have been dealing with for 80 + years and what happens when you bring law enforcement in is the situation gets out of control. You end up with a law enforcement officer whose trained to use violence at the slightest sign of disrespect on any student who is literally being held against there will whether they obey or not. There are certainly situations where it is appropriate for a school official to call the police. However it should not be for routine incidents like this. The evidence is pretty clear cut. The situation got out of hand explicitly because of law enforcement. Law enforcement are trained liars and we need to curtail the use of law enforcement explicitly because they are power hungry violent thugs with little better to do with there time then beat up kids who disrespect them. If we had more violent individuals the use of force and police in schools might be justified. That isn’t what the actual situation is. I went to a high school with over 8,000 students. It was a small college campus. There were TWO security guards and ZERO police. It was a town not that much larger than Keene. We don’t need police in our schools.

  19. “Quite simple, raise your kids to respect EVERYONE around them and not do stupid stuff in school that they arent supposed to.”

    You are a dumb mf. There is no evidence the kid did anything wrong. There was no evidence of any crime. It was a bully with a badge who has a history of using excess force and lies to squash people who don’t agree with him. Respect should be earned, not taught. Teaching kids to respect somebody is sending a really bad message. Should your kid respect Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Trump just because they were or are an authority figure? No. Of course not. If the office didn’t tell the kid he was under arrest or even being detained then he was free to go.

    “Let’s give people the benefit of the doubt before slamming our local law enforcement or anyone else.”

    When they stop abusing people for victimless crimes or making up things to arrest people for that they didn’t do I’ll stop slamming our local law enforcement. The reality is they routinely get up on the stand and lie. They arrest people for crimes that weren’t committed. They demand respect they didn’t earn. They stop people to find an excuse to to arrest them. Despite what you seem to think your child could just as easily end up behind bars because of some wack job on a power trip thinks your kid looked at him wrong or didn’t respond to his order fast enough. Maybe your kid is hard of hearing. Maybe your kid has some other mental deficiencies. Do you really think it is OK for the a police officer to tackle or KILL them? Because that is what your advocating for when you demand we respect police just cause.

  20. Bestat: “Bunch of bitches”… You are an idiot. In Mass they are passing a law that would have law enforcement arrest jail people for using that word, bitches. And do you know who is going to end up in a jail cell next week? It’s you. No. We should not respect law enforcement or the law when law enforcement has done wrong and/or the law is wrong. I don’t support them kidnapping you and throwing you in a cage all because you used a word they or some don’t like. It may not be a word I’ll use. But I don’t agree that the police or anybody should be using violence just because I don’t agree with your morals.

    “Kids in school with the attitude problems are going to be taken down should it warrant that situation.”

    Are fucking insane? You want to MURDER kids because they have attitude problems? WTF is wrong with you people. This KID didn’t even do what the officer alleges. We know this for a fact and it wasn’t reported in the story. There WAS NO EVIDENCE of what the officer is accusing this kid of which is WHY he made up the whole “he might be a threat” non-sense. Why the fuck would you give a liar (this police officer) the benefit of the doubt?

    The murder he committed might have been justified, but it doesn’t change anything else, and I’m skeptical that you have to kill someone just because they are holding a knife to someones throat. A gun WILL kill someone when shot by a trained individual. A knife might, but it won’t necessarily kill someone. A knife wound can be salvaged. A gun by trained officer MURDERING someone can’t be. Responded to in a sane way we might have BOTH lives today. Both the man with mental health issues as well as the victim. A good officer doesn’t resort to violence. A good officer uses violence as a last resort. What would benefit Keene is better training for police on mental health related situations and reservation in the use of force. Just because they may not be liable for violence doesn’t mean they should get to keep the badge if they’re bad at the job.

  21. “The kid could have told him his name…I think that’s the legal requirements..”

    You have no obligation to ID yourself to a police officer in NH. The police can make an arrest for identification purposes, but there won’t be a charge associated with that arrest. Sadly police will charge people with non-existent crimes because they HATE people refusing to ID. They feel they have the right to bully people into supplying ID that those same people have NO obligation to provide in the first place.

  22. he was in a school…like we all know…i think that changes id requirements..like i said…but you cherry picked

  23. so kk is arguing for not iding yourself and getting arrested…so youll wind up like this kid…because you wouldnt say your name…i guess if that’s the battle you want…
    Maybe be more savvy and more tact than this fellow lol

  24. but ok thats not the legal requirement in nh…

  25. Refusing to ID to a cop is different than refusing to ID to a school official. These are two different things. The reason to refuse is its nobody elses business and they are demanding you testify against yourself. Your are supposed to be protected from self incrimination. There are good reasons that this is a constitutional protection.

  26. He may have broken a rule about ID in school, but that is not a crime. But you have to remember that any act of a public official is immoral because its the use if violence to achieve your objective. A voluntary system would not have these problems.

  27. None of you know the actual story in this. So you all should just shut up. Officer English has done more good things in our school in the past 4 months than our last Sro did in 2 years. Officer English is a good man and none of you even know the situation. This isn’t the kids first time getting caught and getting in trouble with the police. It’s a constant thing. Happens at least once a month that he gets in trouble with the police. The kid swung on officer English in the bathroom and then tried to run away. That was a stupid move. Officer English then tackled him to the ground put him in cuffs and took him out of the school which is protocol because you can go to jail for hitting an officer idc how young he is. He was disrespectful and if the kid had been respectful and cooperative then this wouldn’t be a big thing. So if you don’t know the whole story then shut your mouths thanks?

  28. Hi Taylor. Would you care to contribute something that confirms your story? A single character reference really doesn’t mean much in the court of public opinion, you know.

  29. Taylor:

    “Officer English has done more good things in our school in the past 4 months than our last Sro did in 2 years.”

    Yes, no doubt he was a good man just like Adolf Hitler was a good man. He was much better than Joseph Stalin. Joseph Stalin killed far more far more people.

    “This isn’t the kids first time getting caught and getting in trouble with the police. ”

    Yes- nobody is questioning that this kid is a trouble maker. He may be a horrible person. It’s however irrelevant. What the kid did last week doesn’t necessitate that he did anything this week and the evidence that he did anything at all to break the law or rules is non-existent. It’s the officers word at best which has no value given he works in a system that condones the use of violence. He has no problem lying and already has in this very incident. This is the problem with you types. You think that just because one person is bad that another is not also bad. This kid may be a disruption, but that doesn’t mean the cop is telling the truth. The officer might not be as terrible as the last guy, but that doesn’t justify the officers actions here either.

    In either event the kid is justified in defending himself against the officers threat of violence. Any time a police officer comes up to you your morally justified in killing the officer. The police are an arm of government that justifies the use of violence to achieve political and social prerogatives and has the intent by its very nature in hurting you if you don’t comply. The only orders you should morally comply with are orders that pertain to things that involve violence against others. If the cops said “stop hitting x” where x didn’t agree to be hit you should stop morally. Anything else is a threat of violence no different than your own use of violence to rob a store, kidnap, hold hostage, etc. Some of us don’t be in slavery even if it results in better outcomes for those enslaved (ie students). I’m not saying that it does, but I am saying that even if it does you fail when it comes to morality.

    “l because you can go to jail for hitting an officer”

    Don’t you think that hitting people is morally wrong? I do. At least outside of self defense. The officer could not have been defending himself in his attack on this kid. By the officers very act of becoming a police officer he is the one making the threats.

    The law isn’t moral. The law is what it is. Sometimes it may be right, but mostly it’s morally bankrupt. If you think otherwise than do you also think that enslaving black people is OK? Enslaving black people was the law at one time.

    I have no hope of convincing the brainwashed masses of the wrongs they’re advocating. However I will demonstrate to those who understand and have always felt that there was something wrong that we can fix the system. However to do that we have to come together because those who understand whats wrong are far far dispersed and to change the system you must migrate to be around others who think like you do and understand whats wrong in order to fix that wrong. NH was already attractive to and has had a lot of like-minded people who get what I’m saying. Between the natives and the movers we’re having a significant impact on the system. If you don’t agree consider moving to Vermont or Massachusetts. More people in both of these states share your perspective on things. California, New Jersey, etc too. Regardless of what I think we’ll all be better off when we’re among those who think like we do. You can have more communism, poverty, etc. I can help protect those whom have been victims of yours. We’ll happily take the victims your creating. No need to imprison them or assault them. Just tell them to move to NH instead.

  30. This is the same cop that years ago inappropriately took an ar15 to a minor one punch fist fight and preceded to point the weapon at a man violating basic gun safety protocols. You don’t point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot them.

  31. Welp. I live in Keene…officer English seems ok ok to me…As u saw wen I referenced Tenney..if a cop sucks I’ll say it with my name attached, in Keene…That’s it ..lol..I been here for over 20 years old so…what’s his face should chime in…he know all of the kpd… centurion

  32. Thank for commenting Taylor, obviously, the student’s in the school’s POV is one of the most important povs

  33. kk – How do you know the officer violated protocols by bringing his service rifle to a call. You don’t know what kind of scene call he was going to. You are not a police officer, you were not anywhere near the scene so you don’t know. Show me the PD’s protocols that backs up your statements.

  34. JJ: It doesn’t matter what the protocols are. You DO NOT POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE YOU DO NOT INTEND TO SHOOT. It’s basic 101 gun safety stuff jacks. Jesus christ. I know next to nothing about guns and even I know that. I never claimed to be a police officer either. I do know what happened at the scene I described whether or not I was there doesn’t matter in this context. Show me that this kid had something illegal??? You can’t. Because there isn’t any evidence of it. Just a liar to testify to something that is so obviously a lie. This is like when your kid wets his bed and then denies he wet the bed. Sure, maybe, just maybe somebody broke into the house and snuck into his room pissed on his bed. But really??? Jacks. You have to be a total retard not to understand this guys a fucking liar. His story doesn’t make any sense. NOBODY flushes a fucking vape device down a urinal.

  35. kk The officer was confronted with a hostage and knife. If he had a shot, and got the OK, he would shoot. We are dealing with a hostage situation. You obviously do not have a grasp police protocols. He continues to be on the police force and has a job. The rest of your ramblings fall on death ears. Calling me names does not endear you to anyone. I would suggest you wait until all the information is out before making uneducated guesses.

  36. JJ: You know fully well that I was NOT talking about the guy he killed. I was referencing the man this officer pointed a AR15 at. NOT the person he killed dumb ass. When someone is as much of a dumb shit as you and continues to insist on misleading and lying it’s only appropriate that others call you out as such. Your so arrogant as to not recognize EVERYBODY who posts here regularly thinks your a dumb ass. It’s not like there are people coming out and defending you. No. Not a single person.

    You led this name calling… not me. If you had two brain cells to rub together there wouldn’t be any name calling.

  37. kk – Again your statements from yesterday to today show so much inconsistency. I truly believe you were under the influence of what ever it was you took last night and your shameful behaviors today that clearly reflects deep emotional trauma you have never dealt with in a healthy way.

    You need to understand that this article was written by Ian. The guy who chooses to make up 90% of this BS. I looked back in the media archives about English carrying an AR-15 at some unknown street fight that may or may not have ever happened. There is no proof it happened, It was Ian’s imagination that brought that out.

    Again you chose to go on the defensive or irate with absolutely nothing to back up your wild ideas and stories. You find it necessary to call names as a punctuation of statements and it is poorly done and makes you look childish.

    What was that saying freekeeners always say? “If it was caught on camera it never happened”.

    I can recommend a good therapist for your illicit chemical dependency f you feel that would help you in any way to get your life back under control.

  38. Sorry, My bad in a statement I made. freekeeners say “If it wasn’t caught on camera it never happened “.

  39. Actually Jacks, camera recordings are a necessity when dealing with the City of Keene’s minions. Do you know why? Because they’ve played an instrumental role in exposing the liars amongst them. That ugly little detail leaves a very bad taste in your mouth, doesn’t it pookums?

  40. Hey kk. Any thoughts on who that therapist Jacks is talking about might be? I’ll bet it’s one of those guys on A&E’s “Intervention.” That’s his favorite show, you know.

  41. JJ: You know very well that I’m not into using drugs or drinking. Talk about childish name calling.

    ” The guy who chooses to make up 90% of this BS.”

    Ian isn’t making this shit up Jacks. There are videos, quotes from actual people, and so on backing up what he’s writing and unlike most reporters it’s actually what people said and not taken out of context.

    “I looked back in the media archives about English carrying an AR-15 at some unknown street fight that may or may not have ever happened.”

    It did happen and just because it happened doesn’t mean that a story was written about it. I have no idea if anybody wrote something up about that incident. It makes no difference. However co-hosts of FTL DID witness this incident and talked about it on the show.

    OK- so let me get this straight. We’re suppose to take the officers word even though it is batshit crazy and yet you demand evidence from us? Yea.. OK. Nobody is buying what your selling jacks. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and the cop hasn’t got it. Even a vaping device would help his claims. But that doesn’t exist because ya know it didn’t happen.

  42. kk – Yes, Ian does have a creative mind and likes to fill in the holes of his articles with conjecture.

    “It did happen and just because it happened doesn’t mean that a story was written about it. I have no idea if anybody wrote something up about that incident. It makes no difference. However co-hosts of FTL DID witness this incident and talked about it on the show”. Really? What show? Who said it? I believe you are grasping at straws.

    “OK- so let me get this straight. We’re suppose to take the officers word even though it is batshit crazy and yet you demand evidence from us”? Who is us? Show me where the officer was even interviewed regarding this article. His superiors made comments but the only comments I’m seeing this article are Ian’s grandiose ramblings.

    “Nobody is buying what your selling jacks” What am I selling? I have made no offers for selling things.

    ” the cop hasn’t got it. Even a vaping device would help his claims. But that doesn’t exist because ya know it didn’t happen”.

    I beg to differ. His accounts of the incident were written out on a police report which was given to his supervisor. Don’t forget, a copy goes to the DA as well. It sounds like he had his say about the incident in written form which was reviewed. His supervisors have made the statements to the media English did what he was supposed to and operated within protocols.

    You know very well that I’m not into using drugs or drinking. Talk about childish name calling. Show me where I called you any names about my suspicions. I don’t know you but I can tell you your writing and comprehensive fluctuate. Unless you are bipolar, the sentence structures of your statements become very muddy, and discombobulated. your train of thoughts run away from you and you start adding more and more “swear” words to punctuate your obligatory statements.

    By the way, there seems to be a number of people agreeing the officer didn’t do anything in the wrong.

  43. Sorry Jacks, but an injustice doesn’t magically become justifiable just because a number of people say so. That’s not how principles work. Let’s be clear here. Officer English was caught on video assaulting that kid.

    If you or I did something like this, there would be no question as to who was in the wrong – and what the consequences should be. You understand the notion of consequences, now don’t you pookums? You used to talk about them all the time, remember?

  44. “Really? What show? Who said it? I believe you are grasping at straws.”

    Listen to the past weeks worth of FTL and you’ll find out. I’m not catering to your bind blowing retardness. You want proof, go find it. But the reality is it won’t matter. The guy was FILMED assaulting a student where there is ZERO evidence that the kid did anything wrong beyond the officers word DESPITE the fact it’s bat shit insane.

    “Who is us?”

    Whoever it is your talking too dumb ass.

    “Show me where the officer was even interviewed regarding this article. His superiors made comments but the only comments I’m seeing this article are Ian’s grandiose ramblings. ”

    His written statement included this. I don’t believe it was reported on here. You are missing half the puzzle and yet have the nerve to tell us we’re wrong.

    “I beg to differ. His accounts of the incident were written out on a police report which was given to his supervisor. Don’t forget, a copy goes to the DA as well. It sounds like he had his say about the incident in written form which was reviewed. His supervisors have made the statements to the media English did what he was supposed to and operated within protocols.”

    The supervisor is a liar and defending the agency he works for. That doesn’t make it true jacks. Even if he wasn’t a liar it doesn’t matter. We’re talking morals here. Now protocols or laws. This super visor is a biased source. This is a public relations incident that the police are dealing with and they have protocols for it. Deny deny deny. It’s not exclusive to police either. Same thing happens with any publicly traded company jacks.

    “Show me where I called you any names about my suspicions”

    Seriously? I don’t have to. Everybody else can read and I don’t give two shits about pointing out the obvious to you. In your very response your name calling. Since you don’t know what that is I’ll paste a def for you.

    Definition: abusive language or insults

    “By the way, there seems to be a number of people agreeing the officer didn’t do anything in the wrong.”

    Most people agreed with Adolf Hitler in Germany during WW II. Even if most people were agreeing with you it wouldn’t help your case (just to be clear they aren’t).

  45. kk – “Really? What show? Who said it? I believe you are grasping at straws.”

    “Listen to the past weeks worth of FTL and you’ll find out. I’m not catering to your bind blowing retardness. You want proof, go find it. But the reality is it won’t matter. The guy was FILMED assaulting a student where there is ZERO evidence that the kid did anything wrong beyond the officers word DESPITE the fact it’s bat shit insane”.

    It was only a 19 second video. It doesn’t show what happened before the incident. Again, your childish name calling fails to make any point for your argument.

    “I’m not catering to your bind blowing retardness” In other words, you can’t prove your statements.

    “Who is us?”

    “Whoever it is your talking too dumb ass”. Well, I am having a conversation with you. Unfortunately your childish name calling doesn’t back up your statements.

    “The supervisor is a liar and defending the agency he works for. That doesn’t make it true jacks. Even if he wasn’t a liar it doesn’t matter”.

    First you call his supervisor a liar, then you say, “Even if he wasn’t a liar it doesn’t matter”.

    OK? Those statements make no sense and with the exception of a few people, ie… freekeeners, most of the people do believe his supervisor and how the incident played out.

    ”“Show me where I called you any names about my suspicions” Your statements don’t address the questions I have asked you. You are getting a chance to post proof about my supposed “name calling” Again, your statements regarding that issue fall on deaf ears since it wasn’t answering the questions.

    “By the way, there seems to be a number of people agreeing the officer didn’t do anything in the wrong.” Most people agreed with Adolf Hitler in Germany during WW II. Even if most people were agreeing with you it wouldn’t help your case (just to be clear they aren’t).

    Where did you come up with that one? An unruly student decided not to follow the rules and that had consequences. Are you aware the parents and the students have to sign a waiver stating the student will follow the rules or be subject to disciplinary action. The officer obviously gave the student a number of chances and the student decided to take on the officer. The student loss.

    Using “Hitler” in your statements is a very poor analogy. It doesn’t fit the statements you have made. I have a few friends who are Jewish and a couple of them had grandparents who were incarcerated in concentration camps during WWII. I bet they will totally disagree of your analogy about your loose statement regarding the comparison of “Hitler” and this article. As a matter of fact, I am willing to believe they would be quite offended.

    I can only hope you will grow up a little and educate yourself about those who were in these concentration camps and how they lost family, friends, dignity, respect, and being treated like a second class citizen all the while awaiting their deaths. As a matter of fact, the name “Hitler” comes about by lots of activists similar to yourself. Maybe you can educate those people and help restore the dignity and respect those people deserve.

  46. So idk what a resource officer does..what resource is he resourcing?

  47. Jacks: I can only hope you die in the next mass shooting. I don’t generally wish for other peoples death. But it would be a net benefit for society. It would be no worse than putting down a dog. Despite responding to you with answers you ignore the answers claiming I didn’t respond. In reality your bias and inability to read are at fault. I’m not going to hold your hand. I’m not your mommy. I told you where you can find the quotes. Now it’s up to you to find the audio if you are so concerned. I’m not wasting my time to find the audio because it won’t make any difference. People like you are stupid as fuck and no matter how much evidence put forth you’ll deny it exists. You already have where the evidence was put forth here. You deny the officer did wrong, yet all you have is video of the officer assaulting someone. You assume without evidence that the officer didn’t do wrong. I’m all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but there is overwhelming evidence here against the officer. At least if you don’t ignore what was printed and said elsewhere and of course assuming that what is said was true. But to say it isn’t at this point still leaves the officer guilty. Because to ignore the words of others requires us to also ignore the words of the officer which then leaves us with ONLY the the video of assault.

  48. What is the resource of the resource officer! No one seems to no!…Can’t we get the fundamentals of what we’re talking aboot here? IM CANADIAN!

  49. kk – Wow. Hoping someone would die in the next mass shooting especially when you really don’t know that person is quite disturbing. You are stating your world would be better off with me dead. Who gives you that power? Very sad indeed. I’ve been threatened on this website in the past. It would appear those who are on the fringes of freekeene really enjoy wishing violence on people who have a different opinion then their own. What is interesting is freekeene always promotes peace and respect. I guess those who consider themselves part of a “peaceful” movement obviously doe not practice what they preach.

    You continue to answer my questions inappropriately. I have read your statements. They are full of rants and raves that have nothing to do with the article. You continue to punctuate your opinions with derogatory words as a last desperate attempt to show your frustration.

    “People like you are stupid as fuck and no matter how much evidence put forth you’ll deny it exists”. What people? Does this include Ian and any of his minions? It sounds to me you are lashing out because the 19 second video doesn’t back up everything you have stated in the past.

    “You already have where the evidence was put forth here. You deny the officer did wrong, yet all you have is video of the officer assaulting someone”.

    I assume you mean “battery” not “assault” All I said was the officer was doing what he was supposed to and followed protocols. You see a 19 second video without a credible back story and you believe that is enough evidence to hang someone. Since you obviously don’t vote or take part in any kind of community programs, you won’t be called for jury duty. So, the wild statements you have made will not go beyond this site.

    Making superficial statements with only a small incomplete piece of evidence does not endear you to anyone. Ian wrote the article. He put the video up to make sure people similar to you go off half cocked. He’s only telling you what he wants you to hear. It’s not the people who are considering moving to NH, it’s the numbers so he can stand up and be a big man to his minions saying freedom loving people are moving to NH and only quotes the numbers.

    The rest of your remarks are not worth my time to read. They are not complete. I’m not here to change your mind. I am speaking about what I saw and interpreted after I read the article. In the future might I suggest you stop with the inappropriate wishing you were dead, going to die or get seriously hurt. When you make those statements you lose all credibility and you take on the responsibility of your words. Look what happened to RNP and his comments on Twitter.

  50. Maybe KK named himself that bc ..K come after J and .. They say JJ …so he wanted to be KK… SEE!

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