Cannabis Decrim Hearing Includes “Nobody”, NH Candidate for Governor

Nobody Speaks at Cannabis Decrim Hearing 2020

Nobody Speaks at Cannabis Decrim Hearing 2020

After a decade of attending various cannabis legalization and decriminalization hearings at the Concord state house, this week’s hearing for HB-1648 was refreshing. HB 1648 is a really good cannabis decrim bill that goes even further than the one that passed in 2017 that made possession of under 3/4ths of an ounce of flower and under 5 grams of concentrate a violation instead of a misdemeanor. If it passes this year, HB 1648 will eliminate any penalty for people over 21 possessing those amounts. It will no longer be something police can act on at all.

The bill is not perfect, of course, as I point out during my testimony in the two-hour long hearing. It still treats people under 21 like children by retaining violation-level penalties for people between 18 and 21, and also penalizes people under 18 for possession by forcing them into the juvenile system. That’s not fair or right. Also, the limits on the amounts that would be legal to possess are too low. That said, it’s a major step in the right direction and does it without creating a taxing and regulatory structure.

The real shocker at the public hearing this week was the lack of any police presence. Having attended these cannabis hearings over more than a decade, this is the first time where the police not only did not speak against the bill, but weren’t even there watching. The chiefs of police association did sign the blue sheet against the bill, and were the only ones to sign against it. All other signatures were for the bill. Plus, of all the various people who spoke, there was only one who spoke against it, the woman from prohibitionist busybody group “New Futures”. All the other voices were in favor of the bill passing.

One prominent speaker for the bill was NH 2020 gubernatorial candidate “Nobody” who has announced he’ll be challenging incumbent governor Chris Sununu this year in the republican primary. Nobody’s perspective on the issue is valuable as he has been prosecuted and sent to jail in New Hampshire for selling cannabis. He has promised that if elected, he’ll pardon every non-violent drug conviction in New Hampshire history.

Nobody told the house Criminal Justice panel that rather than punishing people under eighteen by putting them into the harsh juvenile system if they are caught with cannabis, the most the state agents should do is call their parents. He said further, “The idea that kids should be subject to more criminal liability than adults kind of flies in the face of reason, when you think about it. I mean, we’re going to attach a criminal penalty to your behavior because your mind is not well enough formed yet to make decisions that have a lasting impact. Well, don’t you think it’s possible that taking criminal sanction against somebody has a lasting impact on their life? Maybe they shouldn’t be bound to that by a decision they make so young.”

Here’s the clip of just Nobody’s testimony:

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33 Comments

  1. States balk on this because scientists are finding that higher THC levels in marijuana are causing greater harm then thought:

    Strained or ruined interpersonal relationships
    Arrest and incarceration
    Social withdrawal and isolation
    Job loss and unemployment
    Financial problems
    Family discord
    Damage to heart and/or lungs
    Bronchitis
    Diminished immune system functioning
    Physical injury due to impaired cognition, perception, and/or coordination
    Sexual dysfunction
    Other types of substance abuse
    Cognitive delays
    Academic failure

    Also, the tax payers have to flip the bills for a lot of these people because they blow all their money on illegal drugs, and we get stuck paying the bills through higher medical costs, and higher taxes. There is a part of my clinic that receives federal grants for these studies.

    You can be arrested if you are found high and driving. It will be a while before more of these in depth studies are released because they are in trial now. I sincerely predict these studies will find even more dangerous to THC. In my own practice the patients I work with who have abused marijuana over time have developed a dependence on the drug. My practice does include taking part in studies regarding addiction and it’s long term affects of marijuana and other illegal drugs. By the way, there aren’t as many Dr.’s out there that would actually prescribe marijuana for a patient.

    Children should not be taking THC in any form because the effects will be more detrimental physically and mentally by the time they reach young adult ages.

    By the way, RP saying anything to anyone is comical. He has no education being an addict doesn’t make him an expert. His gibberish makes absolutely no sense what so ever. I would think he would have at least cleaned himself up. Being arrested and serving time in jail doesn’t qualify him as “invaluable” to anyone one. It shows the system works. I have never heard of one real church using THC in their ceremonies. I’m sure you would be referring to rogue “groups” who get together just to smoke weed.

    RP is just as comical as your other hero Vermin Supreme. As a matter of fact, you really can’t tell the two apart because their wild rants and Disney like fantasies shows they are both to unstable.

  2. You guys rock! Free the weed! I can’t wait to move to NH and help out!

  3. Jumping Jacks.

    Now that’s what I call a tirade. Too bad everything you said there was based on archaic science.

  4. Jumping Jacks.

    They’re the coping mechanism for them. Which means throwing people in jail only makes their problems worse.

  5. Jumping Jacks.

    It’s well understood these days that recreational drug use isn’t the cause societal harms. They’re the coping mechanism for them. Which means throwing people in jail only makes their problems worse.

  6. @Jumping jacks

    You forgot to say it would make white women want to dance with negroes.

  7. Baby Yoda BUT With Subtitles – There is nothing archaic about it. Your thinking is archaic. There are multiple scientific studies out there that back up the claims I have made. You don’t.

    You perpetuate the stereotypical statements that continues to be disproven. As a matter of fact, the multiple detrimental consequences have come from the periodical AMA Journal, I assure you the journal is very up to date medically and a go to for health care professionals. Many medical journals are saying the same things. All you have is hearsay.

  8. Bob C. – “You forgot to say it would make white women want to dance with negroes”. What exactly are you saying? This is a very childish attempt to avoid the subject at hand.

  9. His hairy look is like biblical or something

  10. OR the freak brothers… If anyone knows who they are

  11. “States balk on this because scientists are finding that higher THC levels in marijuana are causing greater harm then thought:”

    Jacks: What you call “harm” is an exaggeration to whatever truth there is in the claims. When I eat a Big Mac from McDonalds by your standard of harm I’m being “harmed”. While one can eat too much to make a claim that eating is somehow harmful is misleading. The things listed are also not all THC related, but caused by the method by which THC is consumed. To me your claims scream liar and biased.

    “Also, the tax payers have to flip the bills for a lot of these people because they blow all their money on illegal drugs,”

    But jacks this is all your doing. If you legalized the drugs and stopped forcing taxpayers to cover the bills of others these problems would not exist. You created this problem, not the people using drugs.

    “and we get stuck paying the bills through higher medical costs, and higher taxes”

    Again, that is because YOU voted for it. If you didn’t want to pay the bills of drug addicts maybe you shouldn’t have demanded socialized health care. In a free market health insurance companies ask “do you use drugs?” and then base the price of insurance on the response. People who cost more would pay more.

    “You can be arrested if you are found high and driving.”

    This is BS. The “experts” are not providing evidence based on science and merely “trained” to convict people based non-science “evidence”. My eyes being dry and red does not mean I’m high. The field drug tests are also not science based, but a scam. I don’t use cannabis or other illegal substances and yet I’ve been wrongly accused many of time of being “high” by so called “experts”.

    “In my own practice the patients I work with who have abused marijuana over time have developed a dependence on the drug. ”

    I call bullshit. Cannabis is not additive. Some people have psychological problems that lead them to overdoing things. That isn’t a problem with cannabis as these same people overdo other things.

    “there aren’t as many Dr.’s out there that would actually prescribe marijuana for a patient.”

    The real world evidences otherwise. The only thing that is true is some doctors are afraid of the federal government.

    “Children should not be taking THC in any form because the effects will be more detrimental physically and mentally by the time they reach young adult ages.”

    Call me skeptical, but it doesn’t matter. Every human has the right to make decisions for themselves whether they be good or bad. Whether it’s wise for a young person or anybody for that matter to use cannabis depends on a variety of factors. It’s not going to hurt a child dying of cancer to use cannabis. A child that is stressed out may get some psychological relief from cannabis. That benefit of that may outweigh whatever threat you perceive. I don’t use cannabis and wouldn’t necessary suggest young people use it any more than I would someone older, but that doesn’t mean I’m convinced it’s somehow substantially dangerous. Even if it was it wouldn’t matter because its the right of each individual to make such decisions for themselves and no one else has a moral right to use violence to hinder use. There is only one harm that is clear and that is using violence (the state/school/parents) against non-violent drug users is wrong. If you don’t want to see your kid suffer from “drug abuse” lead by example.

    “He has no education”

    Really? You do realize this is the United States and there is almost no one without some level of education.

    “being an addict doesn’t make him an expert.”

    Nope. Of course not. Nobody said it did. You can be a “drug addict” and an expert though.

    “His gibberish makes absolutely no sense what so ever.”

    Your in good company than as neither does yours.

    “I would think he would have at least cleaned himself up.”

    It’s unclear to me that his problems are related to drug abuse. He’s got issues like everyone has issues. Between the state and other problems his situation is what it is and your in no position criticize him. You are a violent thug. He is at least peaceful.

    “Being arrested and serving time in jail doesn’t qualify him as ‘invaluable’ to anyone”

    That would be wrong. If you want to know how “drug addicts” end up in prison there is only one solid way to find out. Get testimony from those who were or are “drug addicts” who’ve ended up in jail. You can’t fix a problem you don’t understand.

    “I have never heard of one real church using THC in their ceremonies. ”

    Wow- While that doesn’t surprise me you’re lacking in your religious history. Lots of religions use drugs in ceremonial proceedings. While I’m not sure if alcohol is technically considered a drug there is even a major religion (Cathlic) that use it legally AND give it to minors as part of church ceremonies on a weekly basis.

    “multiple scientific studies out there that back up the claims I have made. ”

    Weak to questionable studies. A study is not necessarily “scientific”. If you don’t understand statistics and you don’t ask questions right or even if you do you can still draw the wrong conclusions. Sadly most studies are bull shit because people either don’t know how to give them/use them/or understand the statistical significance of them/etc.

  12. Jumping Jacks.

    Outstanding. That response had almost every element of intellectual ineptitude attached to it. Appeals to authority, non sequiturs, overstatements. Plus you avoided answering the most important question: How does throwing drug addicts into prison help them with their problems? Could you swing back around and explain that part to me? I’d really appreciate it.

  13. @Jumping jacks, my comment was a reference to a Harry Anslinger quote, he was a prohibitionist too.

    Geez, figured you knew about him and had a picture of him in your wallet or something.

  14. “Also, the tax payers have to flip the bills for a lot of these people because they blow all their money on illegal drugs, and we get stuck paying the bills through higher medical costs, and higher taxes. There is a part of my clinic that receives federal grants for these studies.”

    I think you’re confused, Jacks. Taxpayers aren’t on the hook PAYING the medical bills of anyone. We’re GIVING money to them. And all out of the kindness of our hearts! Just ignore that government gun pointed at our heads. That’s only there to show us how much they appreciate what we give. Because to not give results in “consequences,” eh pookums?

    Oh, and Jacks? We’ve been over this before. You don’t own any clinics. Everyone knows you made that whole story up. Why don’t you tell the forum what it is you really do? There’s been some really sick rumors floating around here about that, you know.

  15. kk – Again, Your antiquated statements make no sense. You have not posted anything that is scientifically based. Dr.’s, scientists, PhD’s are learning about THC and it’s effects upon the body. You can try to justify it all you want but the real hardcore facts are out there. Pick up a medical journal and read it. You would be surprised about a lot of things.

    You call me a “violent thug” You don’t know me. I could call you the same but since I don’t know you won’t. Your response was very childish.

    ” Lots of religions use drugs in ceremonial proceedings. While I’m not sure if alcohol is technically considered a drug there is even a major religion (Cathlic) that use it legally AND give it to minors as part of church ceremonies on a weekly basis”. Really? Tell me one legitimate church that allows marijuana in it’s ceremonies. Catholic mass does have wine but it’s a sip. No one is forced to drink. Unlike marijuana when the smoke fills a room, everyone suffers it’s affects.

    “Weak to questionable studies. A study is not necessarily “scientific”. If you don’t understand statistics and you don’t ask questions right or even if you do you can still draw the wrong conclusions. Sadly most studies are bull shit because people either don’t know how to give them/use them/or understand the statistical significance of them/etc”.

    Now this is quite amusing. The leading journals of medicine that report these studies are at the cutting edge of medicine. You don’t have the education to make the statements you have let alone anything consequential to back them up.

    “If you want to know how “drug addicts” end up in prison there is only one solid way to find out. Get testimony from those who were or are “drug addicts” who’ve ended up in jail. You can’t fix a problem you don’t understand”.

    Lets see, I own an alcohol drug rehab center, i have a masters in substance abuse medicine, emergency medicine, and family practice. The patients that come to my clinic come on their own free will. Usually they have reached rock bottom with their addictions and life. A number of them have been arrested and jailed multiple times. I have heard all the stories from my patients you have never heard before. My clinic is always full with a line around the block of people wanting do be admitted for their addictions. I do not take patients that have been court ordered.

    ” You do realize this is the United States and there is almost no one without some level of education”. Where is your proof on this?

    “If you legalized the drugs and stopped forcing taxpayers to cover the bills of others these problems would not exist. You created this problem, not the people using drugs”.

    No, that is wrong. The addiction is still there. The same amount of people will still become addicts who need help.

    ” Whether it’s wise for a young person or anybody for that matter to use cannabis depends on a variety of factors. It’s not going to hurt a child dying of cancer to use cannabis. A child that is stressed out may get some psychological relief from cannabis”.

    First off, there aren’t as many Dr.s who prescribe cannabis in the USA as you may think. All medication including illegal drugs hurt people. How do you figure a child with stress is going to get some “psychological” relief? Are you serious about that statement? It is very illogical and off the board. You obviously don’t have an understanding about child development.

    “There is only one harm that is clear and that is using violence (the state/school/parents) against non-violent drug users is wrong”. Violence?

    When you are buying illegal drugs you are supporting criminals who don’t care about you one way or another. How about the violence that is caused by drugs. Such as murder, human trafficking, cartels, and the list goes on. How about those who buy these illicit drugs. You don’t know what you are taking into your body. So your statement made absolutely no sense what so ever.

    “I call bullshit. Cannabis is not additive”. Yes it is. With the level of THC rising up into the 21-30% range, the body does physically develop a dependence. You can call it what you want but that means you are thinking about antiquated and false lies.

    “The things listed are also not all THC related, but caused by the method by which THC is consumed. To me your claims scream liar and biased”.

    You are correct that the list I stated can be applied to almost anyone for anything. What you fail to see is this list is typically what addicts experience when using elicit drugs such as marijuana.

    Regarding Dr.s who prescribe THC, “The real world evidences otherwise. The only thing that is true is some doctors are afraid of the federal government”.

    And just what “real world evidence” is out there? Show real scientific proof that your statement is even remotely true.

    Dr.’s fear the federal government? That is hilarious. Believe it or not, those Dr.’s who don’t provide scripts for THC feel the drug is more detrimental then any benefits. It has nothing to do with the government.

    If you think social medicine is the way to go, That isn’t going to change anything regarding Dr.’s writing scripts for THC. Look at Canada. People not getting the health care they need because the Dr.’s offices are jammed with patients. Are you aware patients sometimes have to wait many many hours to see a Dr. in the ER.

    As far as Rich looking like a bum and making ridiculous statements, makes him look like an addict begging for an illicit to be legalized. Yeah, that will go far. Rich is the poster child of why these illicit drugs are banned.

    I would like to congratulate you for not being a follower by using illicit drugs. I think that is great.

  16. “You call me a ‘Violent thug’ You don’t know me. I could call you the same but since I don’t know you won’t. Your response was very childish.”

    You advocate violence against your fellow man via government. umm yea, violent thug is an appropriate description of you.

    “Really? Tell me one legitimate church that allows marijuana in it’s ceremonies. Catholic mass does have wine but it’s a sip.”

    You need to read the constitution sometime. The government is not permitted to endorse a particular religion or decide what is and is not a “legitimate” religion. Plus if something you consider harmful can be written off by saying “but it’s a sip” then certainly the same can be said to cannabis: “but it’s just a hit”.

    “No one is forced to drink. Unlike marijuana when the smoke fills a room, everyone suffers it’s affects.”

    Nobody is forced to smoke either. Cannabis comes in different forms and nobody said anything about smoking it anyway. Even if that is what we were talking about nobody is being forced to practice the religion. If you don’t want to “suffer its affects” maybe you shouldn’t have joined in religious practice where cannabis is a central tenant.

    “The leading journals of medicine that report these studies are at the cutting edge of medicine. ”

    OK, well, I’m not familiar with the particulars here, but to drive my point home the leading manual for diagnostic of mental disorders ie the American Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders lacks scientific credibility even though it is the “leading” mental health book to reference. The way these disorders get in is by a vote. Not by the way of science. This is why homosexuality was listed in the manual as a disorder until recently.

    “You don’t have the education to make the statements you have let alone anything consequential to back them up.”

    I’m sufficiently aware to make an argument and can see right through the government sponsored misinformation “studies” you push.

    “Lets see, I own an alcohol drug rehab center,”

    No you don’t. You sir are what they call mentally ill. Making false claims to try and garner respect from random people on the internet has a mental diagnosis designation. Whether or not I lend any credibility to it is another matter. But one thing I don’t doubt is that there is something mentally wrong with you.

    “I have heard all the stories from my patients you have never heard before”

    If you had a degree in any of the things you claimed you’d understand this is statistically irrelevant from a scientific point of view. Your personal experience doesn’t necessarily represent the totality of the circumstances. However that said it is important to speak with the people whom a law is impacting if one wishes to have the best possible outcome.

    “I do not take patients that have been court ordered.”

    Where is this “clinic”?

    What amazes me is they give you nutters who are locked up internet access. I guess once they’ve assured you can’t harm anyone patients retain free speech rights.

    ” You do realize this is the United States and there is almost no one without some level of education”.

    “Where is your proof on this?”

    Really? Yea. OK. Do a search. The CIA’s World Factbook reports that the U.S. has a literacy rate of 99 percent, and is number 28 of the 214 nations included. Using its definition, literacy refers to the percentage of people age 15 or older who can read and write.

    “The addiction is still there. ”

    Yes, but taxpayers wouldn’t be footing the bill and so the problem is gone that you created. The addiction in which you refer exists regardless of the existence of cannabis because of the type of addiction in which you are talking about. This is how I know you are a liar. You don’t even know the basics behind addiction. There are two types of addiction. Cannabis isn’t itself addictive and you are associating cannabis as addictive when the problem is related to a mental disorder that results in non-addictive substances being “abused” that have nothing to do with the drug being consumed.

    “All medication including illegal drugs hurt people.”

    Lets assume that is true. You still need to do a cost benefit analysis because something that can hurt you can also be beneficial and more so than the harm. Lets take vaccination for example. I may feel pain from the needle and I may even get a little sick. However the benefit in at least some cases is I’ve drastically reduced my likelihood of death (well, with some vaccinations anyway). Are you going to tell me that vaccines should be banned because they harm people? I mean that is just ridicules.

    “How do you figure a child with stress is going to get some ‘psychological’ relief? Are you serious about that statement? It is very illogical and off the board. You obviously don’t have an understanding about child development.”

    Have you ever smoked or ingested cannabis? Why am I even bothering. Clearly you haven’t. For christ sake. It may differ from strain to strain a bit, but generally speaking cannabis calms you down and makes you want to sleep. It has the opposite impact as alcohol. “child development” has NOTHING to do with it. This is something that is true whether you are 3 years old or 103.

    “When you are buying illegal drugs you are supporting criminals”

    First off “supporting criminals” isn’t a bad thing. You make it out as some moral argument when it is in fact supporting people who may or may not being violent. It’s mostly irrelevant because it was the state and those who advocated for the drug banning laws whom are the ones supporting “criminals”. If the law didn’t ban people from selling drugs the buyer wouldn’t be “supporting criminals”. You created the “problem” by making it illegal in the first place.

    “How about the violence that is caused by drugs.”

    Drugs aren’t all the same. I’ve yet to encounter a violent cannabis user. You are good at confusing and manipulating the issue. While that argument might make sense for some drugs it’s not for cannabis. I have however seen lots of violent people as a result of drinking alcoholic beverages.

    “Such as murder, human trafficking, cartels, and the list goes on.”

    Legalize drug use and sale and it won’t fund other sorts of crime assuming what you claim is even true. This is more of a scare tactic than true.

    “How about those who buy these illicit drugs. You don’t know what you are taking into your body.”

    I don’t know what was in my lunch today either. However to the extent that I do know what I’m ingesting the same could be true for drugs. The only reason it’s harder to determine that is because you made it a crime moron.

    “With the level of THC rising up into the 21-30% range, the body does physically develop a dependence.”

    That is a load of crap. It’s like saying board games are addictive because some people can’t help themselves. While there is truth that some people have addictive personalities it’s entirely different to whether or not the substance is itself addictive. Cannabis is not addictive like nicotine is.

    “What you fail to see is this list is typically what addicts experience when using elicit drugs such as marijuana.”

    This is a fallacy. You’ve jumped to the conclusion that because this is what you think you would see in your imaginary clinic that it represents cannabis users as a whole when it does not. Somebody who does not have a mental issue isn’t going to get addicted to cannabis. Just because you see lots of people who have such a mental issue and smoke cannabis doesn’t mean that all cannabis users smoke or have an addiction to the substance.

    This reminds me of all the studies on pedophiles that have been done over the years. If you study people who have been imprisoned for child molestation you only end up with conclusions that pedophiles are child molesters when your data doesn’t actually back that up because you’ve failed to include anybody who wasn’t a child molester in the study in the first place. Humorously the FBI’s own statistics contradict the hundreds of studies that have been done on the cause of child molestation. Basically child molestation is an act of convenience, mostly, not sexual preference. Apparently it’s something more along the lines families fucking each other, like where a wife passes away and the father starts fucking his daughter rather than seek out a new sexual partner elsewhere. If you look at the FBI’s arrest data it overwhelmingly evidences this and the FBI has said this much humorously in various statements its released over the years.

    “And just what ‘real world evidence’ is out there? Show real scientific proof that your statement is even remotely true. ”

    I’ve provided enough evidence. It’s time for you to stop ignoring it.

    “Rich is the poster child of why these illicit drugs are banned.”

    I fail to see what Rich has done that would make him the poster child of why they are banned. Unlike you he’s not violent. He’s not homeless either. He’s getting older for sure and may have memory issues. How much of it has to do with drug use is anyone’s guess. I can say with certainty he’s not the only drug user and not all drug users have the problems Rich has.

    We know the real reason these drugs were banned in the first place even if not why they continue to be banned (though the later is brainwashing). It’s the result of bigotry. The very people who initiated the drug war have said it had to do with bigotry. They didn’t want white women getting fucked by drug addicted blacks. This and because the plants competed with the cotton industry of the day.

  17. kk – Again you are wasting time and energy write nonsense. ” families f*cking each other”? You jump from one poorly stated and non relevant to the conversation at hand. You are going to believe what you want to believe. Even though you have the wrong information and you interject your opinions stating as facts without real proof.

    I have posted more information with scientific back up and you haven’t. I refuse to indulge in these weird fantasies and inappropriate fallacies. Which are left overs from our previous conversations. When you become educated then converse with me. I cannot lower myself to you level.

  18. Jumping Jacks.

    What’s a dead giveaway that someone has a massive ego?

    1. They can’t take criticism.

    2. They can’t acknowledge others’ contributions.

    3. They won’t indulge other people’s opinions.

    4. They refuse to acknowledge that they might be misinformed or wrong about a subject.

  19. Baby Yoda BUT With Subtitles – interesting

  20. Jacks: You have a serious reading comprehension problem. I can’t believe I have to point out that the example was a demonstration of why you can’t believe everything you hear from “experts” and read in “official” books or even loads of research on a subject particularly if the research wasn’t properly conducted. It wasn’t a tangent on child sexual abuse as you seem to suggest. It’s well known that most child sexual abuse is connected to the home. Not pedos driving white vans kidnapping kids as the media has presented it over the years. The later is so extraordinarily rare. It’s like the serial killer. Same thing. Serial killers are EXTREMELY rare. It’s not that they don’t exist, but you really don’t need to imprison most people who’ve committed murder for the sake of protecting the public. Most murderers aren’t doing it to get off. They’ve got specific reasons for having killed and once those reasons (ex-wife) are gone (harassment) so too would the desire to murder. If my ex-wife is harassing me and I have no way out it’s not hard to imagine I might want to and actually carry out a murder on her. That doesn’t mean I’m going to murder more people. Yet the idea of locking people up for murder is we’re protecting society from a perception that murders are all serial killers and post a risk to society. It’s simply bull shit and the statistics don’t back this fiction up.

  21. kk- “You have a serious reading comprehension problem” Write something comprehensive and will try again.

    Your insults fall on deaf ears. You haven’t been right about anything. Your illogical comparisons and rants mean nothing. You haven’t backed any of your rants and raves with cold hard facts.

    “You really don’t need to imprison most people who’ve committed murder for the sake of protecting the public”.

    Please tell me you are not serious.

    “. If my ex-wife is harassing me and I have no way out it’s not hard to imagine I might want to and actually carry out a murder on her”.

    I would be very careful about wishing murder on people. You will get locked up.

    ” Yet the idea of locking people up for murder is we’re protecting society from a perception that murders are all serial killers and post a risk to society. It’s simply bull shit and the statistics don’t back this fiction up”

    OMG. You are truly a few shrimp short of a Gump. None of this has to do with marijuana legalization. It’s a very sick and twisted rant.

    I have a master’s in nursing. I am a nurse practitioner certified in alcohol and addiction medicine. I put in my time of education, study, clinicals, and comprehensive testing. I work with addicts on a daily basis. I have all the most up to date periodicals and information to be a competent clinician. I have earned respect from my coworkers and peers. I have written articles and participated in a number of clinical studies. I am currently a doctoral candidate.

    What do you have?

    That is why arguing facts and figures with you is a waste of my time. You just do not have the right education about addiction and you certainly do not have a grasp about child sexual abuse. Why you even brought up serial killers and pedophiles is totally beyond me.

    Again, this little chat we had is just a waste of time. Until you really educate yourself, this conversation is over.

  22. Jumping Jacks.

    What’s a dead giveaway that someone has a massive ego?

    5. They try to convince detractors that they possess professional honors and degrees they clearly don’t have the brains to earn.

  23. Jacks: “Please tell me you are not serious.”

    Totally serious. The government has released lots of murders not excluding Mark Edge and yet neither Mark Edge nor most others who have committed murder have gone on to commit serial murder.

    “I would be very careful about wishing murder on people. You will get locked up.”

    Wow- now we’re talking thought crime. No jacks. Thinking murderous thoughts will not get you locked up. It’s not a crime to want to murder. It’s a crime to plan a murder, to act on a plan to murder, and to murder, but thinking or wishing it is not a crime.

    “None of this has to do with marijuana legalization. It’s a very sick and twisted rant.”

    There are similarities between diverse subject matters when it comes to passing laws and what those laws are based on (bigotry, science, facts, perceptions and similar) whether you like to acknowledge it or not.

    “I have a master’s in nursing. I am a nurse practitioner certified in alcohol and addiction medicine. I put in my time of education, study, clinicals, and comprehensive testing. I work with addicts on a daily basis. I have all the most up to date periodicals and information to be a competent clinician. I have earned respect from my coworkers and peers. I have written articles and participated in a number of clinical studies. I am currently a doctoral candidate.

    What do you have? ”

    I have six doctoral degrees: Doctor of Engineering, Doctor of Medical Science, Doctor of Nursing Science, Doctor of Philosophy, Doctor of Applied Science, Doctor of Criminology

    See Jacks- I can play this game too. And I play it better than you. You should never have asked this question.

    “That is why arguing facts and figures with you is a waste of my time.”

    Right. Sure.

    “Why you even brought up serial killers and pedophiles is totally beyond me. ”

    This is the problem with you jacks. Your reading comprehension sucks even after I’ve spelled it out for you again and again. You can’t possibly conceive that the system is broken. If the input is bad it doesn’t matter how good your algorithm is, the output will be bad. That is the summary of what that conversation was about yet you couldn’t grasp that. It wasn’t a tangent, but rather an extrapolation of why your thinking is just flawed. You put in shit for input, do “science”, and then conclude whatever you want ignoring the fact your input was utter shit.

  24. kk – Again, I must tell you that your rants and raves are falling on deaf ears. I cannot lower myself to have a conversation with you about illegal drugs or any kind of addiction for that matter. Your childish inane remarks, name calling, You are talking about serial murderers and pedophile scenarios that do not belong in this conversation.

    I know for sure you have a drinking problem. I can see it in your over the top statements. Your writing style changes the drunker you are. What you say doesn’t make sense. Third graders understand about illicit drug addictions better then you ever could. That statement alone should embarrass you because the observation is correct. Do you not have any morals or ethics regarding the endless amount of BS that comes out of your mouth?

    Your statements about my credentials do not bother me. You are just spouting the same BS that you have always spouted and it makes you look like an imbecile. Just like any other MSN, what numbers do you post on the first page of the certification test? Oh wait, you don’t know. You almost had me at that one.

    You are extremely defensive, unable to educate, radical, flighty, and the list goes on. You feel you have to swear and put down others so you can hide behind that pain mask of your own insecurities.

    You take what others have written and twist and discombobulate their statements into your own very weird interpretations.

    Anyone who compares the use of marijuana to pedophilia and serial murderers is not a well and stable person.

  25. Thank you jacks!

  26. Jumping Jacks.

    You shouldn’t be shocked that people here are making light of you. Ph.D.’s need to be productive writers. You can barely construct a comprehensible sentence. And we live in an age where computers can pretty much do that for you.

  27. Baby Yoda BUT With Subtitles – Yawn……………..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  28. Jumping Jacks.

    What’s a dead giveaway that someone has a massive ego?

    6. Instead of just taking things on the chin, they always have to be a one-upper.

    Don’t be a one-upper, JJ.

  29. Baby Yoda BUT With Subtitles – “What’s a dead giveaway that someone has a massive ego”?

    6. “Instead of just taking things on the chin, they always have to be a one-upper”.

    It would appear you are doing that right now.

  30. Jumping Jacks.

    You’re a two-upper, too? That’s unexpected. Let’s see if you can put me in my place with three then. Should be no sweat for you seeing as you’re a doctoral candidate and all.

  31. Congratulations to the winner of the medal for the longest post ever posted on FreeKeene… You are the gold madal winner… It’s a honorable honor and you are the first winner!

  32. I’m in Keene: I might vote for mayor Pete in a will like the NH primary….. I’m saying him like that bc I can’t say or spell his last name..

  33. Jumping Jacks:

    You are wrong on the science.

    But even if you were right, you would still not have any right to stop me from smoking weed. I have a right to pursue happiness, in my own way. And that leaves the choice in MY hands.

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