Ross Ulbricht Speaks Truth to Power

For the first time since being caged, Ross Ulbricht — no stranger to readers of FreeKeene.com — candidly, and powerfully spoke out. In this 25-minute audio recording he:

  • details his motivation for creating the Silk Road and his subsequent character assassination and caging
  • implores his captors to act not with contempt but compassion
  • shares his excitement about the liberating impact of decentralized cryptocurrency for individuals & humanity

On the use of the phrase “Speak truth to power”, let’s turn for a moment to a passage from Ben Stone’s Sedition Subversion and Sabotage Field Manual No. 1, where he notes:

“Speak truth to power” is an old Quaker phrase that has been co-opted by several groups for different purposes. Although it didn’t make it into print until the twentieth century, its origin is commonly believed to be a nineteenth century description of an event in 1655 when Quaker activist George Fox was captured and brought before Oliver Cromwell. Facing the threat of death by flames or worse, Fox proclaimed without fear or respect of person, the truth as he knew it to be. Cromwell, a Puritan and a sworn enemy of the Quakers, was so impressed by this man of faith that he let Fox go free. Twice. Subsequently the story has become perverted to purvey the idea that Fox spoke “truth to power” to influence government to do his bidding. Balderdash! Fox had exactly ZERO influence on the Cromwell government.

George Fox almost certainly believed himself to be a dead-man-talking as he rebuked, condemned, and reviled the murderer, Cromwell. The fact that Cromwell’s conscience struck him and caused him to act in mercy towards Fox speaks to Cromwell’s Christian upbringing and parentage and not to the absurd idea that facing death, Fox tried to use the government that he so reviled. The witness of George Fox’s life proclaims that any words he spoke to Cromwell were spoken with a full knowledge that he was speaking to the ages, not to some usurper on a man-made throne of blood and gore! Thus we have the key. We must boldly speak truth in the face of power. Not to influence power, but to state truth for posterity’s sake.

However, Ross not only stated truth for posterity’s sake, he made a direct appeal to those responsible for his caging. To each individual’s conscious. He retains hope, because he has seen more than one friend overcome a life sentence — something he likened to a “miracle”, and thusly called for “more miracles.” I think this is worthwhile, because individuals can and do modify their ideas. If thought otherwise, what’s the point of doing outreach at all?

Further — and this speaks volumes about his peace of mind — Ross explicitly stated that he:

…forgave all the people involved in putting me in prison. I had to. The anger I felt wasn’t hurting them but it was hurting me. So for the sake of my sanity I had to let it go.

Overall, this was a very powerful commentary. I’m so glad Ross finally spoke out. More than once, I was in tears. And I was happy to be able to communicate my appreciation to his mother last week when at PorcFest.

Edward Snowden once said, “There are no heroes. There are only heroic decisions.” If that’s the case, then Ross Ulbricht has been making heroic decisions for years. I — and many others — look forward to the day when we can tell him face-to-face, and uncaged, that his actions were not in vain.

Ross called on listeners to “set your sights on the hardest problems.” Let’s do it. Let’s lift ourselves and each other up.

FreeRoss.org


Transcript

Hello, this is Ross Ulbricht.

I’m calling you today from prison. From a maximum security federal penitentiary. We don’t have much time together today and I don’t know if I’ll get another chance to talk to you like this. I’ll say as much as I can but when it’s time to go I’ll have to hang up and go back to my cell.

I have lost my freedom. That’s what I want to talk to you about today.

I want you to understand what it means to lose your freedom.

But first let’s talk about bitcoin. I was there during bitcoin’s early days. Back then bitcoin made me feel like anything was possible. Bitcoin was open to everyone, right. That’s what I loved so much about it, like it leveled the playing field.

When the idea of bitcoin really clicked for me, I got so excited I thought with bitcoin I can try to do something that actually makes a difference. And by the way, before I was put in prison, we didn’t have all these different cryptocurrencies and tokens and everything. I missed all that. So to me it’s all one thing, the forks, the new blockchains, all of it. So when I say bitcoin, I’m not making those distinctions. To me, it may sound kind of corny, but, to me we’re all one big family.

So I was excited back then but I was also very impatient. I saw what bitcoin could do for freedom and equality but I didn’t take the time to really understand it. I didn’t fully appreciate the principles it’s based on. Things like immutability and consensus and of course decentralization. I had so many big dreams for bitcoin and what’s so beautiful is, slowly those dreams are coming true. That’s because of you, you are making those dreams a reality. You are doing what I didn’t have the patience for. These last eight years now in prison, over and over I’ve been so impressed with how far we’ve come. But back then I was impatient. I rushed ahead with my first idea, which was Silk Road.

Silk Road was a website I made when I was 26 years old, more than a decade ago now. It used Tor and bitcoin to protect people’s privacy. I called it an anonymous market. At the time I thought, if bitcoin makes payments anonymous and private then, what are we waiting for? Why are we sitting around talking about it, let’s put it into action. That’s impulsive. That’s a 26 year old who thinks he has to save the world before someone beats him to it. I had no idea if Silk Road would work, but now we all know it caught on. It was used to sell drugs and now I’m in prison. I was given two life sentences without parole plus 40 years.

I’m a non-violent first-time offender but if nothing changes I’ll spend the next few decades in this cage. Then sometime later this century I’ll grow old and die. I’ll finally leave prison but I’ll be in a body bag.

I got a letter the other day. It was from someone I hadn’t met before. He was thanking me, he was grateful I had put Silk Road online all those years ago. He believed that bitcoin wouldn’t be where it is today if it wasn’t for Silk Road. I’m not sure. For better or worse, Silk Road is part of bitcoin’s history now, but I worry that by putting Silk Road online I made things harder for us. There’s no way to know how things would have turned out differently but I just want to say to the extent that I made things harder for us, I’m sorry. The extent that my actions led to drug abuse and addiction, I’m sorry. I was trying to do something good, I was trying to help us move toward a freer and more equitable world. But we all know the road to hell is paved with good intentions right, and now here I am. I’m in hell.

I want you to understand what it means to lose your freedom.

Let me start by telling you about the hole. It goes by many names: the shoe, segregation, the box. But for me it’s the hole. The hole is the prison within the prison. I once spent four months straight in the hole. Not easy for me to talk about but I will. The hole can make you or break you and there was a time when it broke me. It started with my mind racing out of control. I felt like the walls were crushing in on me like I just had to get out of that cell. This lasted days. Then I started beating the walls and kicking the heavy metal door. Something, something deep inside me cried out for freedom. I couldn’t accept where I was or what had happened to me. But eventually I realised I had to get a grip. The stress was destroying me.

It may sound strange but what saved me was gratitude. But what could I be grateful for in that little cell? Well, I had to start small. I had air, right? Maybe it was stale and foul but I had air. I had water that didn’t make me sick. Food came through the slot in the door every day.

I knew I wasn’t forgotten. My family, I knew someday it would be over and my family would still be there. I forgave all the people involved in putting me in prison. I had to. The anger I felt wasn’t hurting them but it was hurting me. So for the sake of my sanity I had to let it go.

I had a dream when I was in the hole and in the dream I was free. I was in a park and I felt this huge relief. I wasn’t in prison anymore and then I got worried. Am I out on bail or something? Or are they gonna put me back in? Are they after me right now? And I started trying to get away and the anxiety, it just woke me up. And there I was again. In the hole. And it was like everything that had happened to me over all these years, it all came slamming down on me at once like life without parole, maximum security. I’ve been in the hole for months and there’s no end in sight.

I want you to understand what it means to lose your freedom.

My mother, this was after I was sentenced, my mother was invited to give a speaking tour in Europe. She was raising awareness about what had happened to me and was looking for help. At a talk in Poland she started to feel a bit sick and had to fly home early. So the next morning I called my sister from the prison and the first thing she said was: “Has anyone told you about mom yet?” I said: “What about her?” and, she said to me in this voice, she said: “Oh Ross, Ross, Ross.” and I knew our mom had been feeling sick and in that moment I just knew my sister was gonna tell me our mom was dead. But she said: “Mom’s in the hospital.” and I was like: “Oh thank God she’s not dead.” but I was like: “Wait, the hospital? That’s not good either.”

Technically our mother had died. Her heart stopped at the breakfast table that morning. My uncle kept it going with CPR and she was rushed to the hospital. She was unconscious in the ICU when I called. It was a long time before I was able to talk to her. I didn’t know if she would live. We didn’t know if there would be brain damage. No one would say it but I knew it was my fault. She had been redlining for two years since the day I was arrested. Pushing, pushing, pushing, every moment of every day for my freedom. Stress-induced cardiomyopathy. I call it broken heart syndrome. I broke my mother’s heart and it nearly killed her.

The pain I’ve caused my family. I didn’t think of them, not as much as I should have when I was taking those risks when I was risking my freedom. My mom made a full recovery, thank God. Eight years later she still pushes for me every day but the whole ordeal, my imprisonment, has been devastating for her. And not just her: my fiance, my father, my sister, everyone. They’re all hurting.

I want you to understand what it means to lose your freedom.

There’s more to losing your freedom, It’s more than being locked in a cage and the devastation that brings to your family. Locking someone in a cage until they die, it’s such a horrific thing to do to a person. To lock someone in a cage until they die, the public, you, you have to be convinced that person is evil. That they are somehow less than human.

After I was arrested another prisoner came up to me, a young man. He had a magazine and he said, he said: “Ross, they wrote an article about you.”. So I flipped the article and I’ll never forget what I saw. It was an illustration of me and what was so strange was the face had my features and proportions but the skin had a putrid color. The eyes were bloodshot. I was, I was hunched over like some kind of ghoul. I pushed the magazine away, I just couldn’t handle it. I couldn’t face what I was seeing. It felt like, I could feel physical pain in my chest like claws were tearing through me. The young man, he said: “At least read what they’re saying about you.” and, and I said: “Why? Why listen to someone badmouth you and lie about you, if you can’t say anything back?”. It got quiet.

Later that day he told me they had done the same thing to him. Not on national news but in his local paper. “They do it to all of us.” After I said I didn’t want to read it he tore out the article and shredded it, right into the trash and he said: “I don’t want to read it either.”. That meant so much to me, “I don’t want to read it either.”. See, he gave me hope that you wouldn’t look at me like I’m some sort of monster.

The caricature they created was a violent drug lord. That is not who I am. That is a lie. It’s a lie that was carefully crafted to justify keeping me in this cage until I die. It’s a lie designed to turn you against me. To turn your heart off.

They lied, it’s on the record. They cheated, that’s on the record. They stole. Two of them went to prison over the stealing. They hid evidence, that’s on the record. They destroyed evidence, that’s on the record. They planted evidence, that’s on the record.

At one point they were looking into how they could give me the death penalty. They wanted to inject chemicals into my veins that would stop my heart. I had this dream where one of them was pointing a syringe at the soft spot on my neck just under my chin. He kept getting closer and closer and I backed away but my back was against the wall, every muscle in my body was tensed as I strained to get away. I was practically climbing the wall as the tip of the syringe came right next to my skin. I woke up in that exact same position, I was hyperventilating, my heart was pounding, I could still feel the needle coming toward me.

Are you starting to understand what it means to lose your freedom?

It means living in constant fear. Why has it taken me all these years to finally talk to you? I’ve been afraid. Even now I was strongly warned against talking to you. You’ll only anger the authorities even more or you’ll ruin what little chance you have left in the courts. Well, it’s not my intention to anger anyone and yes, I’m afraid. I’m afraid of retaliation. I’m afraid that because of what I’m saying to you today I’ll be thrown in the hole or worse.

But I’ve learned that listening to your fears can be just as dangerous as ignoring them. Somehow eight years have slipped by. It’s been easier to ignore the lies and everything else to just focus on getting through each day and trying to be strong for my family. But today, right now I have a message for those that have been lying about me and those that have been thoughtlessly repeating those lies. Please stop. You are hurting me. Please stop. You know what you’re saying isn’t true. You’re hurting me and you’re hurting my family. Please stop.

I want you to understand what it means to lose your freedom.

The irony is that I made Silk Road in the first place because I thought I was furthering the things I cared about. Freedom. Privacy. Equality. But by making Silk Road I wound up in a place where those things don’t exist. I am not alone. These prisons are full of people who don’t deserve this. We are mothers and fathers, we are sisters and brothers, but we’ve been made into monsters in your eyes. We’ve been made less than human.

And then next to all that there’s bitcoin. Bitcoin has been transforming our world since that very first block in the blockchain. And let me tell you something. We are just getting started. Wherever bitcoin has been embraced, anywhere in the world, freedom and equality follow. Bitcoin is the embodiment of freedom. So now look what we have, on one side we have loss of freedom, we have despair and darkness. And on the other side we have bitcoin. We have freedom, equality, and hope. The two can’t sit side by side so the darkness has to be kept out of sight. It has to be ignored and forgotten. But listen, here I am, I’m crying out from that very same darkness. This is a cry for help. My mother can’t do this by herself and I’m crying out not just for me but for all of us. We need your help. We need you to care. We need you to look at the stark contrast between the freedom of bitcoin on the one hand and what it means to be locked in a cage until you die. We have a choice, today, right now, do we ignore what’s happening? The loss of freedom, the dehumanization, or do we wake up? Listen, bitcoin is strong, bitcoin is powerful, we are powerful and our work is not over. It’s time to wake up, it’s time to take the next step.

I’ve spent the last eight years watching bitcoin grow up from in here. I’ve seen incredible innovation. I’ve seen inspiring courage. We didn’t know how things would turn out for bitcoin back in the beginning but over the years I’ve been continually impressed what you’ve accomplished. I am proud of you and I have no doubt we can do anything we set our minds to.

We are transforming the global economy. We have brought a taste of freedom and equality to far corners of the world. I know we can transform criminal justice too.

And now, today, I challenge you to set your sights on the hardest problems. I challenge you to shine bitcoin’s light into the darkest places. I challenge you to set us free. I’ve seen several of my friends go home after years, even decades in prison. More than one overcame a life sentence. Each time it happens I weep for joy. Seeing a person regain their freedom, seeing them reunite with their family, there’s nothing like it. It’s so beautiful it hurts, it feels like a miracle. We need more miracles.

I have to go soon. I don’t want to go. I don’t want to go back to that cell. I want to be there with you. This call. You’ve done so much for me today. Talking with you today is the most freedom I’ve felt in a long, long time. Thank you. Thank you for giving me your attention. I will never forget this day. The memory of this day, this can never be taken from us.

I’m gonna go now.

Thank you.

Goodbye.

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81 Comments

  1. Remember that time that Ross got scammed for hundreds of thousands of dollars after he thought he was putting fake hits out on people? Non violent lol

  2. Hey Dread Pirate Roberts, I’ve got names of more people that pose a threat to the Silkroad. The price is, as it was for the others, $150,000 a person. Are you interested?

  3. Yeah. I remember. Hey, remember when Susan Bruce’s bloated, rotting corpse was found in her filthy Conway apartment? You know I heard she choked to death after throwing up a meatball sub during a weekend vodka bender. Lol.

  4. Try to stay on topic, Silky Johnson.

    This article is about a convicted felon whining that he isn’t free in prison, not some local columnist dying.

  5. Powerful message. Thanks for this.

  6. You’re welcome, Intrigare.

  7. I know, Karl. I know. You’re asking yourself: “Now that the Bruce is worm food, who else out there will write about how voting Democrat will save us from whitey and the rest of those capitalist pigs?” Well, I don’t have an answer for that. But things do have a way of evening out, so I’m sure everything will be fine.

    Anyway, I’ve been wondering, Karl. Whaddya think about all those Che Guevara t-shirts your flunkies are always wearing? Pretty faggy, am I right?

  8. Oh come on. This guy still hasn’t taken any responsibility for his actions. There were some very serious crimes being committed on his dark web website. He knew what transactions were going on and he allowed it.

    This article is nothing but a whiny feel sorry for me article. I’m surprised Pete would write all this out. Ross is where he needs to be. He knowingly did the crimes now he has to do the time and accept responsibility for his actions.

  9. Why do I care? Democrats are just as capitalist as Republicans, and they will only give lip service to racial justice as long as it gets them votes.

    It just shows that capitalists will do anything to make a buck, even if it includes idolizing a figure that goes against everything they claim to stand for.

  10. “This guy still hasn’t taken any responsibility for his actions.”

    Ross Ulbricht: “The extent that my actions led to drug abuse and addiction, I’m sorry.”

    “This article is nothing but a whiny feel sorry for me article.”

    I read it as an appeal to common humanity. No shock that would fall on deaf ears with you, Jumping Jacks.

    “Ross is where he needs to be. He knowingly did the crimes now he has to do the time and accept responsibility for his actions.”

    The punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Its said that even President Trump considered pardoning him.

  11. Jumping Jacks and Intrigare, this is really embarrassing, but I think you both missed a quote.

    “I take responsibility and am really sorry for operating a market where people could buy and sell fake ids, people’s private information like usernames and passwords, cash ATM hacks, and fraudulent goods in addition to drugs of dubious quality. Also, my vendors would also pull all kinds of exit scams, but its the free market, what can you do, hire a hitman to track these people down? lol Oh yeah, my bad about the whole hiring a hitman to kill people thing. I take responsibility for that too. You know what, I could have caused a lot of people to die if I wasn’t so heartless. I think I deserve jail.”

    Also, I personally don’t use Trump as my moral compass, but you should note that he ultimately didn’t pardon Ross, because even Trump can see that he belongs in jail.

  12. It’s very sad.
    Some judge wanted to show people something and up her credentials.
    By killing everyone.
    I signed the petition to free Ross.
    The state seems omnipotent.
    A presidential pardon?
    Not by the current occupant.
    What other avenues of hope are there.

  13. GoKM I think I missed apology quotes from the founders of Craigslist, Facebook, eBay, etc for illegal activities occuring on their platforms also. Any help finding those would be much appreciated. Also could you include info on the the relevant life sentences penalties applied in each of those cases? Would help a lot.

    For the record, I wouldn’t use Trump as a moral compass either. But since he had the highest office in the system you hold as legitimate, I’d have thought you’d find him more credible than say, an obscure actvist blog like Free Keene. Not so? Hmmm…

  14. I didn’t realize those platforms exist for the sole purpose of aiding illegal activity. Do they allow illegal goods and services to be sold there? How much did the founders directly benefit from illegal sales made on those markets? Wait, is this comparison a terrible example? You’re such a trickster.

    I’m Karl Marx. Do you think I find this system legitimate?

  15. Thanks for the post! It’s great to see other authors here and point well received by at least the liberty minded folks here. Trolls not included obviously.

  16. Yeah, Karl. We can see how hard it is for guys like you to ascertain the truth about anything – especially when the owners of said platforms have been aiding the world’s professional liars for years now. Understanding that, I guess any ignorance of these matters could be forgiven. Thing is though, I’m getting the distinct impression that your ignorance is in fact willful, Karl. And that’s a different matter entirely.

    Anyway, you commies all have tiny wieners. DTC paid me in bitcoin to post that. What an asshole, right?

  17. Ah I see. The sole purpose of Silk Road was to aid criminal activity. Much like bitcoin. That’s the difference. Afterall, who other than criminals would ever want privacy?

    Anyway, Karl Marx, I believe it is you who are the trickster. I have good reason to believe that you are not actually Karl Marx! But if you are, I think you should have quit while you were ahead. That is, with the works of “Das Kapital.”

  18. Is this a roundabout way of saying you appreciate my work, Intrigare? I didn’t know I had such a fan! Das Kapital came at the end of my career, and my dear friend Engels had to publish the last chapters after I died. I technically did quit while I was ahead!

    Bitcoin didn’t start with the intention of aiding criminal activity. Satoshi didn’t even want people to use it as a way to fund Wikileaks, because he thought it would bring the currency too much negative press.

    The Silk Road on the other hand…

    Silky, you would appreciate having a small pecker if you had boils all over it! Count your blessings young man!

  19. You’re welcome, John. I am happy that my points aren’t lost on you! Don’t let these libertards get to you!!

  20. “Is this a roundabout way of saying you appreciate my work, Intrigare?”

    Its a roundabout way of saying you’ve come a long way from Das Kapital to the gutters of the FK comments section playing word games with we the resident trolls. But hey, welcome aboard!

    “Bitcoin didn’t start with the intention of aiding criminal activity.”

    Ah, intentions… Yes in important tidbit when determining whether something warrants a life sentence or not. Speaking of intentions….

    ‘I was trying to do something good, I was trying to help us move toward a freer and more equitable world. But we all know the road to hell is paved with good intentions right, and now here I am. I’m in hell.” -Ross Ulbricht

  21. You ginormous homo. So now you’re trying to pretend your murder cult is the invention of Freidrich Engels? Who’re you trying to kid, Karl? That pole-smoker couldn’t even clean the spooge out of that disgusting beard of his much less finish a book.

  22. Well, after decades of exploring the universe, I had to settle somewhere. I was travelling along the bitcoin network, but those fees were really starting to add up! What a scam!

    Why yes, intention does matter. In law it’s called mens rea, and it is a contributing factor towards sentencing.

    Intention is determined from words and actions. Unfortunately for Ross, his actions don’t line up with his words. He created the Silk Road to make money. His previous business ventures were failures, and this was an opportunity to line his pockets.

  23. Now now, Silky, don’t go homophobic on me. That’s not very libertarian of you. I think you’ll find I’m more into the ladies myself. I married a woman, and even had some good times with my housekeeper.

    I’m not sure how you got murder cult out of my writings. Maybe you should read them?

  24. “He created the Silk Road to make money.”

    What a coincidence! So now we’re back to apology letters and life sentences for the creators of other popular platforms where illegal activities occur. They also created those platforms to make money.

    Did you happen to come across those during your decades of exploring the universe?

  25. Baloney. Everyone knows Jenny was bearding for Marx. Marx and Engels craved the cock just like the rest of their murder cult. I have a dresser full of t-shirts that says so. Anyway, capitalism will always triumph over communism because it’s human nature to want to own stuff. So you can suck it, Karl.

    Speaking of lining pockets, remember when it hit the news that two tools working for the FBI and CIA were caught lining theirs with Ulbricht’s money? But don’t blame Feds. It was all for the cause of justice.

  26. Oh good, we can discuss the same topic again.

    Do they allow illegal goods and services to be sold there? If illegal goods and services were on there, and they were notified, did they remove them? How much did the founders directly benefit from illegal sales made on those markets? Did they actively market their website as a market to buy illegal drugs? Wait, is this comparison a terrible example?

  27. You can think what you want of my sexuality. I don’t know why you care so much, unless you are having some fantasies? Either way, there is nothing wrong with being gay so…

    Capitalism doesn’t mean owning stuff, champ. Personal property exists under communism. Maybe you should look up the definition of the terms you are using.

    If I can be so bold as to quote myself, “The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. Modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products, that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.”

    Glad to clear that up for you, sparkles.

    Yeah, those agents were tools. Funny thing though, two things can be true at the same time. The agents can be tools. and Ross can be a wannabe kingpin that is now a convicted felon whining about how prison isn’t a great place.

  28. Eat a dick, Karl. The bourgeoisie make up the lion’s share of the world’s economy. Abolishing them only leads to a small number of government bootlickers owning everything. Just like what you have in Russia and China. Capitalism is about the freedom of individuals to own stuff and do what they want with it. Why do you think I have so many t-shirts and a beautiful wooden dresser to store them in? Capitalism. That’s why.

    Anyway, let’s get something straight here, donut-puncher. When the Feds find out how many underage boys you’ve been fingering, you’ll be the one whining about prison life. I’d get some religion if I were you.

  29. “Do they allow illegal goods and services to be sold there?”

    Their TOS say they don’t, but illegal goods and services are sold there, so obviously their platforms must allow it.

    “If illegal goods and services were on there, and they were notified, did they remove them?”

    Nope, they are still there.

    “How much did the founders directly benefit from illegal sales made on those markets?”

    More than Ross Ulbricht benefitted.

    “Did they actively market their website as a market to buy illegal drugs?”

    They didn’t have to.

    “Wait, is this comparison a terrible example?”

    Well, not unless you’re okay with little things like double standards and hypocrisy and such.

  30. Thank you, Ross, for saving my life with the Silk Road! I was in excruciating pain, and the only way I avoided committing suicide during those six weeks of torture in 2013 was because of the pain meds made available to me through the Silk Road.

  31. God bless Ross Ulbricht. I took MDMA from the Silk Road and rolled and realized I liked men and did not care if my parents knew I was gay.

  32. Ross Ulbricht was a smart and talented young guy who went seriously astray. Much of what he is saying is true. Certainly, maximum security federal prisons are very nasty and so is the Seg Unit.

    But, he knew that he was committing serious crimes. Yes, some people may have benefitted from illegal products that they bought on Silk Rd. But, others may have died from dangerous products that they bought on a Silk Rd.

    When Ulbricht was arrested, he had 144,000 Bitcoin. The current value would be almost $5 billion. Still, I would agree that the sentence is seemingly far too harsh for a non-violent first time offender. An 8 or 10 sentence might have sufficed.

    But, there was an additional problem. Using Silk Road, Ulbricht paid $150,000 each to have 5 people killed. Those are the kind of services that were available on Silk Road. That is why he is in his current situation. You will notice that he never addressed anything about the murder plots.

  33. Pete,
    The PDF your blog post links to is asinine. Dude, I am disappointed. Don’t be taken in by such fantasy BS.

  34. “You will notice that he never addressed anything about the murder plots.”

    I believe that was covered in the part where he talks about lies.

  35. Why should he address them, LFoD? After all, that murder-for-hire nonsense was just a fairy tale made up by the FBI. That’s why he was never charged for any of it.

    Anyway, it’s really, really sweet of you to only want Ulbricht to serve 8 to 10. I mean if I were in the FBI, I’d have just let him go. But that’s because I’m a normal person and know it doesn’t serve the purposes of justice to imprison someone who didn’t do anything to hurt anyone.

    Then I’d put the entire Clinton family in cuffs and charge them as accessories to murder for their actions in that Benghazi affair… and all the other things they’ve done. But that’s just me.

  36. I would encourage you read the actual conversation between Ulbricht and “redandwhite” which was introduced at his trial. He is soliciting over a $ million a week in narcotics business but also contracting to have somebody killed. He openly says that he has only had one person killed and paid $80,000 so he balks at the $150,000 price. But the target is threatening to out numerous customers. Eventually, Ulbricht decides that he wants to kill 4 people at $150,000 each. This all weighed heavily in his sentencing. You can call it all “lies” but i would encourage you to read the actual transcript of his discussion with red and white.

    P.S. I agree about the Clintons.

  37. Uh huh. So what you’re saying is that you’re mad that Ulbricht’s web business made lots and lots of money while you libtards subsist on handouts and continue to suck at life. Got it.

    Anyway, since we’re all urging each other about things, I’d urge you to read about how the Feds violated Ulbricht’s rights to due process by inventing a murder-for-hire plot to persuade the judge to delay Ulbricht’s attorneys access to discovery. Pretty assholish, am I right?

    Speaking of urges, the word’s out you’re one of those satan-worshiping sodomites or some shit. Good thing Free Keene welcomes comments from people of all walks of life – even fudge-packing bullshit artists like yourself, am I right?

  38. Live Free or Die,

    You speak truth to power, but many of the dildos here unfortunately are so far up a butt that they can’t see it. Did you know that truth to power is an old Quaker phrase that has been co-opted by several groups for different purposes? Aren’t I so understanding and cool bringing up an irrelevant fact?

    Anyway, Silky, I notice you like to type homophobic insults a lot. Do you have a lot of repressed feelings buddy? Anything you want to talk out (or feel out, I guess…)

    The conversation happened by the way. it wasn’t a fairly tale. Otherwise, how do explain the very specific blockchain transactions where Ross paid the hitman in bitcoin at the exact same time the messages occurred? Can’t fake that buddy. (unless you think BTC can be forged?) Go look it up yourself. It came from DPR’s bitcoin address.

    Oh, you are such a sheltered child if you think the bourgeoisie make up the majority of people. Now that I think about it, you probably don’t know what that word means. Tsk tsk. You should look it up silly billy. Then we can have an adult conversation.

  39. Oh intrigare,

    How about this, you find me an illegal good or service on any of these platforms, and I will report it. If nothing happens, I will take one for the team and indulge Silky’s gay communist fantasies. If not, then you have to admit that your comparison is bad.

  40. Hey, you know what, I just noticed something! Ross was charged with crimes similar to the ones they charged Ian with!

    Uh oh, Ian, things aren’t looking good for you, remember how Ross lost and became a convicted felon? He is now spending decades in prison! I wonder what is going to happen to you. Oh well, I hope you enjoy the solitary confinement as much as Ross! It’s very liberating or some shit, IDK I didn’t read his whining very closely. LOL

  41. Now Karl, let’s not get your panties all in a twist over any of this. I mean I’m only following the lead you libtard weirdos have been setting here for years now. Besides, painting holier-than-thou commie buttholes like yourselves as lecherous homosexual pedophiles is funny to me. Go ahead. Tell me why I’m wrong. I know you’re just dying to.

    Anyway, about those alleged bitcoin transactions. Weird how the Feds haven’t charged Ulbricht when they have that kind of evidence in their possession, huh? Makes you wonder. Well not you, of course. You’re the trusting type. But the rest of us are pretty skeptical about all of this. Especially since the FBI have been caught red-handed lying about so many things over the years.

    Oh, and poop dick? I looked up the word “bourgeoisie” like you asked. Boy, that was eye-opening. Turns out it’s what most of us sheltered children refer to as the middle class. I know you and your commie superheroes think the word refers to only bankers and their socialite wives and shit, but it’s actually just anyone with a job. That means it makes up most people. Cool, huh?

    Wow. I can’t wait to have more of these adult conversations with you. I’ll be waiting here with bells on, Karl.

  42. I just finished reading your previous comment, Silky.

    Do you really think you’d only be able to own shirts and a dresser under capitalism? lol

    This is going to blow your mind, but sometimes words have different meanings! You just have to look down at the next definition.

    For instance, the word bark can refer to the sound your mom makes, or the outer layer of a tree! Cool huh?

    The meaning we are using today is the Marxist meaning. The term Marxist refers to me, pretty neat huh? It means the capitalist class, which the vast majority are not a part of. This includes you. (Unless… Jeff? Is that you?)

  43. Oh, yeah, why would the Feds care to add more charges to Ross? It’s better to save the tax dollars. He’s never getting out of jail again lol

  44. Uh huh. I do, actually. That’s because you commies, no matter how much you try to hide your actual nature, all eventually reveal yourselves as the liars, thieves, and murderers that you really are. You know, like when your heroes starved millions of Ukrainian farmers. Those farmers were middle class, by the way. The Reds starved them anyway… just because.

    Anyway, speaking of words having double meanings, a lot of us here have observed that no one likes changing the meaning of words more than you commies. Wanna read up on a few of ’em for shits & giggles? These ones are my favorites:

    Adult – Any Democrat/Marxist ideologue.

    Climate Change – 1. A pseudoscience inspired by the British eugenics movement which is designed to destroy capitalism. It’s primary assertion is that human ingenuity, cow farts, and Trump voters have altered the environment more than any typical volcanic eruption throughout the entire planetary history and is responsible for changes to a climate that has always been dynamic and never has been static. 2. Previously known as both the New Ice Age and Global Warming until people smarter than you figured out that either concepts, when introduced by themselves, wouldn’t scare the shit out of enough people.

    Common Sense – Any Democrat/Marxist idea.

    Congress – The Legislative Branch of government, whose duly passed laws are meant to be interpreted or ignored by the President as necessary to advance the Democrats’/Marxists’ agenda.

    Constitution – A living document with language that is to be interpreted or ignored as necessary to advance the Democrat/Marxist agenda.

    Conversation – Any dialog where Democrat/Marxist ideas are championed and all other ideas are derided.

    Deficit – Government theft on a massive scale of the wealth of future generations to provide for the luxuries of current Democrats.

    Entitlement – Any taxpayer money taken from those who earned it and redistributed to people who have not.

    Fact-checker – Any Marxist propaganda organization that provides “corrections” for corporate news media by declaring as untrue any accurate assertion made by conservatives.

    Invest – The act of spending obscene amounts of taxpayers’ money on wasteful government programs.

    Middle class – Democrat voters.

    Police – A government military force organized solely for the persecution of non-white people.

    President – The Chief Executive of United States who is empowered to take any action necessary to advance the Democrats’/Marxists’ agenda.

    Rich – 1. The financial status of anyone with more wealth than most Democrat voters. 2. Anyone worth more than Bernie Sanders.

    Supreme Court – The second Legislative Branch of government, whose decisions are to be interpreted as necessary to advance the Democrats’/Marxists’ agenda.

    Talking Point – A point made by a Conservative that is brushed aside by a Marxist because he is unable to refute it substantively.

    Voter Suppression – The mutual ambition of all Republicans.

  45. “Oh, yeah, why would the Feds care to add more charges to Ross? It’s better to save the tax dollars. He’s never getting out of jail again lol”

    Mmm hmm. You know, should anyone with two life sentences shank his celly, you can bet that turdhole will be charged with murder. Tax dollars or no. So why not Ulbricht? I think you know the answer to that, pillow biter.

  46. You uh… really got in the weeds there with the climate change thing. We’re talking about Ross Ulbricht, remember? Are you okay buddy? Did you forget to take your meds?

    You’re right though. Marxists are taking over the world. We’ve got the United States, which is why the democrats are having trouble passing even the most moderate liberal policies. Soon you will have no choice but to experience FULL GAY COMMUNISM. Don’t try to resist; resistance is futile. Just go silently and it will be easier on you. =)

  47. Good catch, Karl. You’re right. Climate change has absolutely nothing to do with Ross Ulbricht. But it does illustrate how you commies change the meanings of words to hide what you’re up to, doesn’t it? I’ll pretend you’re nodding your head in agreement while you’re reading that.

    Oh, and thanks for asking about my health situation. Turns out your apprehension was at least partly justified. If you must know, I had absolutely the worst diarrhea this morning. Probably from that box of popsicles I ate last night. God it was hot out. Anyway, you know all about diarrhea, don’tcha Karl? I hear it’s what you sodomites use for lube when you’re stabbing the starfish. Good news, though. I’m all better now thanks to capitalism and Pepto Bismol.

  48. I’m sorry you don’t like that words can have multiple meanings? It can get pretty confusing for you I guess. I’m sorry you have trouble following along.

    Huh, yeah, it was hot out. We’ve been getting a lot of heat waves lately. I wonder what that all is about. It’s like, every year the weather within each region worldwide is getting warmer. Hmm… probably something the communists have done.

  49. Nah. More likely it’s just hot because it just tends to get that way in the summer. Winter will even all this shit out and then everything will be fine. You’ll see. The Laws of Thermodynamics are pretty awesome, am I right Karl?

    Anyway, all of this adult conversation we’re having is just the bomb, ain’t it? Thanks for letting me be a part of it. So whaddya want to talk about next? The latest news is that Bill Cosby is telling everybody it was you commies who actually stormed the Capitol and not the MAGA brigade. What a dick, right? Still, it’s hard to believe a rich, bourgeois black dude would say something like that if there wasn’t a ring of truth to it. Maybe you should contact the dictatorship of the proletariat ASAP and get them to do something about this fucker? You know, before he starts drawing MAGA crowds at all the comedy clubs?

    Oh, and Karl? Because I’m such a great guy, I’ve decided to give you a break and save my customary queer bashing for the next comment. No need to thank me. All this attention you’re giving me is thanks enough.

  50. Uh huh. It’s weird though that winters are also getting more mild. Isn’t that crazy? I guess by your logic we are due for an ice age soon so everything will ‘even’ out. After all, the laws of thermodynamics certainly say things will even out, whatever that means. Oh wait, they don’t? Strange. You must know the special, secret communist laws of thermodynamics.

    Did you know my neighbor has three cats that he feeds baby food to every morning (only Gerber brand though, they don’t like the store brand.) That statement has more relevance to anything than what old pudding pops thinks.

    Oh Silky, you shouldn’t have. You make homosexuality sound so nice and inviting. Maybe I’ll give it a shot. I remember when Ian admitted on air that he took it up the butt. He said he didn’t like it that much though. It’s just one of those things you have to try before you knock it, you know? He liked being a child prostitute though.

    Anyway, let’s bring this back around. Do you think Ross likes it up the butt? I can’t imagine he gets much interaction with other inmates though, seeing how he keeps getting locked in the hole.

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